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Mr. Nerfect 05-09-2019 04:35 PM

The WarnerMedia upfront is being held in MSG. Amazing...

Emperor Smeat 05-09-2019 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer Newsletter
Right now the leading candidates would be either Tuesday or Wednesday night, probably 8-10 p.m. Eastern. The idea would be to air the show live in the U.K., which would be 1-3 a.m., if such a deal can be put together.


Droford 05-09-2019 07:23 PM

Wednesday would be a bit ballsier since it's against nxt but wwe doesn't release NXT viewer numbers

rez 05-09-2019 07:33 PM

FUCK YES

rez 05-09-2019 07:33 PM

WRESTLING BACK TO TNT. SHIT GOT REAL

Emperor Smeat 05-09-2019 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5250908)
Wednesday would be a bit ballsier since it's against nxt but wwe doesn't release NXT viewer numbers

Also prevents the situation of their shows being preempted or delayed during NBA playoffs since TNT airs games on Tuesdays.

Emperor Smeat 05-12-2019 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWI
Now that we are less than two weeks until All Elite Wrestling's Double Or Nothing PPV, program guides for services like Xfinity and Cox that use iNDemand are now listing the PPV as airing on Saturday May 25.

The Xfinity guide lists a price of $59.95, which is really, really stiff in my opinion.


ClockShot 05-12-2019 02:41 PM

Oooof.

That might just drive me away from buying. All In was $10 bucks cheaper, right?

Emperor Smeat 05-12-2019 02:55 PM

$20 cheaper since All In was $40 on Fite.TV

What does boxing and UFC usually charge for their events? I could see that just being a placeholder till AEW announces the real price soon.

If that's legit, no way are they going to be successful right out of the gate at $60 since Impact struggles to sell ppvs at $40 and ROH are in the $30s-$40s range for non-HonorClub. Not even WWE did that outside of Mania and took a long while for their prices to creep up.

ClockShot 05-12-2019 04:37 PM

Well now, AEW got a solid 2 weeks to hopefully knock the price down to reasonable levels.

I understand the concept of "double or nothing". But that doesn't mean jack up the price the 2nd time around.

Emperor Smeat 05-12-2019 05:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">$49.99 <a href="https://t.co/up2HCHLhIo">https://t.co/up2HCHLhIo</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1127668885698727937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Meltzer also mentioned that its very likely the prices are being set by cable providers and not by AEW themselves due to how the cable PPV industry typically works.

slik 05-12-2019 07:25 PM

I hope they get a streaming service w/ a better price because that is too steep for me for an untested brand

Emperor Smeat 05-12-2019 07:48 PM

Most likely they are going to be using Bleacher Report Live for streaming since Turner owns it.

In terms of prices, $20-$30 is the sweet spot for monthly PPVs these days mainly because of the WWE Network and WWE's constant free month offerings have really devauled PPVs.

AEW could probably follow ROH's model for streaming and offer multiple tiers if they want pricey PPVs. Cheapest tier gives a discount on monthly PPVs purchased separately and most expensive tier includes all PPVs at no additional cost.

Lock Jaw 05-12-2019 08:33 PM

Actually have a smidgen of interest for this.... but not willing to pay more than $20.... and even at $20 I'd have a tough time deciding to do it.....

Mr. Nerfect 05-13-2019 04:25 AM

I’d probably have gone as high as $30. I don’t think I can justify $50.

Big Poppa Pauly 05-13-2019 04:34 AM

UK price is £14.95. And I've got in early and have already ordered. :yes:

Evil Vito 05-13-2019 07:31 AM

I really want to support this but I can’t justify $60. If that’s the price it’s a huge mistake.

Gonna hold out for an official announcement from them though. They don’t seem like they’d be dumb enough to charge something that would price out a lot of people for their very first show..

Evil Vito 05-15-2019 08:56 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We’re back in the wrestling business! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> <a href="https://t.co/1DVRLRdQgd">pic.twitter.com/1DVRLRdQgd</a></p>&mdash; TNT Drama (@tntdrama) <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama/status/1128632147248668673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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slik 05-15-2019 09:23 AM

Press Release says all AEW ppvs will stream on B/R Live

Site looks really user friendly:

https://live.bleacherreport.com

#1-norm-fan 05-15-2019 09:54 AM

Also says they will “introduce statistics into pro wrestling for the first time ever.” Wins and losses will be tracked.

Droford 05-15-2019 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5252232)
Also says they will “introduce statistics into pro wrestling for the first time ever.” Wins and losses will be tracked.

http://wrestlecrap.com/wp-content/up...8/11/tcs01.png

https://i1.wp.com/impactwrestling.co...d9-600x400.jpg
ripping off AWA and TNA seems like a good start

They should rip off WCW and have a spin the roulette wheel make a deal match at the PPV

#1-norm-fan 05-15-2019 11:03 AM

Pretty sure the point was that wins and losses will be tracked constantly and not just as part of a certain gimmick competition.

#1-norm-fan 05-15-2019 11:07 AM

I actually made sure to put “introduce statistics for the first time ever” in quotations to make it clear that I was quoting the press release before the inevitable STD unnecessary correction. He’s gonna be pissed that Droford beat him to it.

Droford 05-15-2019 11:07 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/m7DEwkk9ID7ag/giphy.gif

too lazy to figure out how to edit AEW over "Whos line is it anyway" and JR over Drew Carey.

https://i.imgflip.com/3111qb.jpg

Lock Jaw 05-15-2019 11:18 AM

No TNT in Canada..... wonder if they will get a deal here somewhere.....

Damian Rey 2.0 05-15-2019 11:57 AM

Woo hoo. BR Live has a roku app so I'll be able to watch this. Pretty stoked.

Innovator 05-15-2019 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5252248)
I actually made sure to put “introduce statistics for the first time ever” in quotations to make it clear that I was quoting the press release before the inevitable STD unnecessary correction. He’s gonna be pissed that Droford beat him to it.

Cody means "% of times this move wins the match/% of times this guy gets taken out by this type of move" stats

#1-norm-fan 05-15-2019 12:09 PM

It mentioned that, too. Which could be cool I guess. An NFL type "next gen stats" thing for wrestling. I'm more interested in the wins and losses being tracked though. Instantly forces them to actually care about the outcome of every match and forces long-term booking or else the whole system falls apart.

Droford 05-15-2019 03:02 PM

Wrestling fans complaining about WWE calling wrestling "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT"

vs

Wrestling fans embracing AEW using sports style statistics in wrestling

does not compute

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2019 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5252279)
Wrestling fans complaining about WWE calling wrestling "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT"

vs

Wrestling fans embracing AEW using sports style statistics in wrestling

does not compute

Dude, what in the fuck point are you trying to make?

Droford 05-15-2019 03:26 PM

calling it sports entertainment is awful when WWE does it but its innovative when AEW treats wrestling as a sport with statistics

xrodmuc316 05-15-2019 03:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Later this year we’re introducing some real superheroes with a new live franchise: All Elite Wrestling <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> - a brand-new league - with a new style and a new generation of talent. <a href="https://t.co/Vdc3nS1H6u">pic.twitter.com/Vdc3nS1H6u</a></p>&mdash; TNT Drama (@tntdrama) <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama/status/1128669254734229504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Does anybody else think TNT's tweet is funny? "A new generation of talent" yet they show Jericho who was on their last wrestling show lol.

Gotta love Jericho taking all the credit though, I miss the Jericho invented everything memes!

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2019 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5252283)
calling it sports entertainment is awful when WWE does it but its innovative when AEW treats wrestling as a sport with statistics

how is this inconsistent? People - within the 'smarky' community - have wanted wrestling treated like more of a sport for eons. Why are you so retarded?

Droford 05-15-2019 03:53 PM

what happened to all the "its not sports entertainment its wrestling" people then?

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2019 03:58 PM

What are you fucking talking about? You are the dumbest motherfucker in the world.

Loose Cannon 05-15-2019 04:28 PM

Exciting times. can't wait to watch!

Droford 05-15-2019 04:31 PM

If AEW is wrestling with sports statistics then to me its considered sports. but people hate vince for calling wrestling "sports entertainment". which is fucking exactly what AEW will be.

Mr. Nerfect 05-15-2019 05:19 PM

I don’t think you get why people don’t like the sports entertainment euphemism.

Emperor Smeat 05-15-2019 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5252291)
If AEW is wrestling with sports statistics then to me its considered sports. but people hate vince for calling wrestling "sports entertainment". which is fucking exactly what AEW will be.

Difference is if AEW actually follows a sports-like model, then they are using the phrase correctly.

Vince mainly uses the term as if he's been ashamed he's only ever been successful in wrestling and to rebrand his style of wrestling as something different when it isn't.

NJPW is a lot more sports-like than WWE but don't use the term "sports entertainment" because they don't hold a petty view of wrestling.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2019 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5252291)
If AEW is wrestling with sports statistics then to me its considered sports. but people hate vince for calling wrestling "sports entertainment". which is fucking exactly what AEW will be.

Wrestling is entertainment. But it only functions at its creative best when you treat it like a shoot sport. Putting too much focus on the entertainment aspect makes it nearly impossible to suspend your disbelief. Putting the focus on the sports aspect makes it much easier to suspend your disbelief because people are wrestling over sports reasons instead of over shampoo deals or because HHH made a match in the opening segment because he was cranky.

People's problem with sports entertainment was never the sports part. Why would you ever think that? You're a moron.


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