Dropkick Michinoku Driver as a finisher HELL YES! Sabian and Havok are great as well!

she needs to go back to being chary bomb

Wardlow winning by KO..I can dig that.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my God Colt can throw a chop.

And I'm still jealous of Kip...

I'm ready for Best Friends vs Omega/Hangman.

And Orange is still fucking awesome!! AND BATTLE ROYALE FOR #1 CONTENDER FOR TNT TITLE!!

I kinda like the belt, I like that its something a bit different. Not sold on the name though...

Tomorrow should be interesting.

Would you hire Hawkins and Cardona?

Listening them on Jericho's podcast, I think they would be a blast in AEW. Cardona is proven charismatic talent and Hawkins is really good in the ring and great with character work. I thought his work with the loosing streak was fantastic and should have had a big pop at the end of it but obviously, they WWE'ed it.

I know we don't want AEW to be all friends wrestling. Well at least Cornette doesn't. I think these two deserve a spot on the roster. I can imagine they would be hilarious working with Jurassic Express and Best Friends.

Honestly no. At least not as on air talents. They were both booked as jokes in wwe and don't bring any credibility. I'd rather they bring in guys like Moxley, an obvs big name who was mishandled, or a Rusev type who was charismatic, funny, had success and consistent visibility but also wasn't utilized to his full potential.

I mean the relationships are there - Ryder is tight with Cody and Hawkins was MJF and Statlander's trainer. But I wouldn't bring them in. They'd be pretty damn far down on the tag ranks in that division, even moreso once FTR come in.

Besides, they've said they don't want to be a regular tag team anyway. They have a wishlist of teams they'd team up to face if the opportunity arises on the indies but otherwise they're content to work solo while they host their podcast.

Don't really see any value in them as singles guys in the AEW scene. I actually think Impact might be the best choice for Ryder where there's a lot of emphasis on characters ahead of in-ring skill. Hawkins could go pretty much anywhere and be a decent hand but I think his school will be the bigger priority for him anyway.

Warner Media synergy


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I’d see Cardona as another potential Dillinger tbh.

Dillinger/Spears has been a bummer. He got off to a great start. Got Tully. Got a big match. It was fine that he lost. But he's done jack shit since then.

Not that I am saying it would work exactly like the nWo, but AEW could certainly sign five or six released WWE guys to come in as a faction wanting to take all the top spots.

That's a good idea. But it's gotta be guys better than those 2.

Right, I'm not saying it has to be those 2. But a Rusev led stable with say Rowan and Axel could certainly be supported by Hawkins and Ryder.

Fuck no. That's jobber central. The only one there of interest is Rusev.

That stable would be awful and it would go against their claims that they aren’t gonna hire everyone WWE discards.

Goldust was an easy add as he was Cody’s brother and a ready-made story.

Mox is a star.

Brodie, Matt, FTR all had various degrees of buzz around them due to untapped potential or in Matt’s case a gimmick that, while not for everyone, has a following. Rusev would give me a similar vibe to those guys and would be a sensible add from all the recent WWE releases.

The only one that I have trouble justifying and felt like a TNA signing was Spears and signing guys like Ryder would be a comparison. They should stay away with that.

What is The Ryback up to? They should sign The Ryback

I'm glad they signed Brian Cage from impact to break up the stream of talent released by WWE. They need to sign Tessa Blanchard away from impact later this summer when her contract expires

Yes!

Based on newest estimates, this year's Double or Nothing show is rumored to have broken last year's number and set a new all-time PPV buys number in company history.

Tessa is the best women's talent out there, but I'm not sure she is "friendly" enough to get a spot.

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Clutch Adam's is gone from AEW Dark for past racist tweets

New 4 Horseman incoming?


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I've watched the promo like 5 times. Tully is so good. It's a shame he's being wasted on Spears, who doesn't need a mouthpiece and has been booked as jobber to the stars and less.

If this leads to Tully turning on Spears with a new acquisition so be it.

That would probably be the best move. I’m not big on Spears. Not everyone can be a main eventer. He served a purpose being fed to Cody in a quick little feud and now he’s settled as a low mid-carder. Tully turning on him and pairing up with someone higher up the card could give Shawn another nice little feud for a bit. Though AEW seems like it might be heavy on mid-card faces.

Tully would've been great for Cage. Hell, he'd have been awesome for FTR. The turn and debut comes with Tully telling Spears he's found the perfect partners, for him, not for Spears. FTR jumps Spears and beats the fuck out of him. Spears has to find a partner for Fight for the Fallen to try and avenge himself, and he and said partner get fed to FTR.

Nonetheless, Tully is gonna be a great mouthpiece when he gets a talent worth his presence.

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That doesn’t seem very inclusive.

Damn. Tully with FTR. Kinda love that thought.

AEW put a good Tully promo on their social media. Why it wasn’t on their TV show, I don’t have a fucking clue. LolAEW. But it also looks like they are trying to Shawn Spears, Cody and FTR together as some sort of Fourtune Four group. LolAEW.

A huge mistake companies make with these Horsemen groups -- except for maybe WWE when it comes to Evolution, which felt self-aware enough to be a faction about the "past, present and future" -- is that they they get four people that vaguely remind you of former Horsemen, and they want them to get over by lifting four fingers. That's instead of having four guys who can get the four fingers over.

If this were Jericho, MJF and FTR, then it might be something. You'd have Le Champion, the hottest rising heel and the best heel tag team. It makes perfect sense. The issue with that is besides Spears, who should be cast out of the group, you'd then probably have to turn the rest of the Inner Circle babyface, which is just too much.

UNLESS you did this as an all-out war between two sides. Tully Blanchard's heels against Arn Anderson's faces. The two old guys would be like generals. It kicks off with Tully wanting to re-live the past and Arn confronting him saying this can't be them anymore. Then a heel gets involved and hurts Arn. This puts him at direct odds with Cody. That's whoever you want to be his big analogue for the blow-off, which should come down to Jericho, MJF and FTR as the main heels. So it'd probably be best for MJF to take out Arn. Or Lance Archer to spin that along, with Tully purchasing his contract off Jake. Then you can move onto MJF later.

But then you'd need to book All Out to be "All Out War" and have two sides up and down the card. Because you can't have Cody going into War Games (or "All Out War" which would be better than "Blood & Guts") and have him on a team with, like, Dustin Rhodes, Shawn Spears and Darby Allin. Where are his buddies in The Elite? They should be helping out Cody. So where is the Inner Circle? It gets so messy, but you'd need to give people fixed programs that result in blow-off matches like the conclusion to the Invasion angle should have been. Dustin can be out of the War Games because he's now got a real personal feud with "Heartless" Shawn Spears, who wants to prove his overall worth to the cause.

That COULD work. You'd probably want the final main event to be the top four faces in the company against the top four heels. So that would be Cody, Jon Moxley and probably Adam Page and Kenny Omega if they're teaming. You could turn Omega and put him on the heel side and do a big singles with Page, but then you'd probably have The Bucks as the tag team, and that...doesn't have as much base.

So you get Mox, Cody, Page & Omega as the final faces representing Arn -- "The Elite Enforcers" or some shit -- going against Blanchard's Four Horsemen of the AEW Apocalypse -- Chris Jericho, Maxwell Jacob Friedman and Formerly the Revival, where the good guys would have to go over, which would mean whoever is your biggest babyface getting the submission from Chris Jericho.

Argh, it's just so complicated and I know they won't do it that way. It'll be campy Cody promos with him doing evil laughs and the Horsemen Revival actually getting cheered because who won't want to see Arn and Tully hug? And then you'll have Shawn Spears and FTR there just having matches with people who never find any unity.

I'd rather they just had Tully manage FTR, to be honest. I'm maybe seeing upside to Cody trusting Shawn Spears after everything, Shawn turning heel on Cody and then MJF leading the group. Eh. It just feels so TNA.

It's a really great fit honestly. And I think Tully ripping Spears is planting the seeds to him leaving.

I really can see this being Cody, Spears and FTR, guys.

Ryback has always and will forever be thrash. He derailed Curtis Axel's career and then ruined his own. If he was worth anything he'd have done something by now.

Rybaxel was the only time Curtis was interesting.

Shawn Spears is a giant fucking bore. Tully is being wasted on him.

I agree with Gertner. Ryback was way better than Axel. And Tully should be paired with either FTR or another younger wrestler with upside. Wardlow would've been a good one of not paired with MJF. But someonelike that who needs the mouthpiece abs credibility Tully can lend.

I think I found Noid's twiter account

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Currently not a Spears fan either. I hate to rip the guy because it’s obvious how passionate he is, but the guy just seems like such a “try-hard” that’s stuck in 2006.

With that being said, AEW obviously loves him and are giving him several chances to get over and stay over.

I think sometime within the next 3-4 months that Spears will be apart of a new heel stable led by Adam Page alongside FTR and managed by Tully.

I am on the fence with Spears. He is endearing to me as a person but his character and booking has been pretty mild thus far minus the initial program with Cody. Seems like he is heating up again.

It's interesting how AEW just changes course on things that aren't working, or drops them quickly altogether. I feel like the majority of Shawn's programs have ended without any positive for anyone, again except the original Cody program.


Also whatever is going on with Bunny. She seems to have dropped Butcher and Blade and is now doing a new gimmick with QT Marshal, I think they are in a relationship in real life. It's intriguing because QT could be a great AEW made star that we all can pull for. Strong underdog and great fire from him in the ring.

I'm not too hot on Darby right now. I was really into him the first few months of AEW on TNT but it's what I've seen off screen that has soured me. I was just searching for clips of what I'm talking about on youtube but I couldn't find it, could've been removed or I just don't know where to look. Once I saw some video he had produced, a weird reality show of sorts featuring someone who they said was a drug addict and needed money. So Darby would devise really fucked up things to make the guy do, for a little bit of money. I can't remember exactly what I saw but it was degrading and uncool and Darby reminded me of the prick Skateboard crew in my hometown when I was a kid, who were essentially just scummy dudes. I think I might have seen him make the dude eat some poop for money or something like that.

Also, while I really enjoy his matches, he he can come up with original spots given the opprotuity, I'm starting to feel that he is a bit of a one trick pony... Shoulder dives and coffin drops is really all he's got. Otherwise he's just taking big bumps and selling, which he does very well.

I'm just feeling quite critical of Darby you guys.

Also I wanted to bring up another interesting talking point. From reading The Obsever over the last few months one take you can grab on the sly is that The Young Bucks are not "good for ratings". From what I've read it seems like The Bucks are one of the biggest ratings flops so far in AEW. Why is that? Personally I love The Bucks, I pop for'em like I'm watching Austin in the 90's. But there are a lot of people online who hate them (obvs). I wonder if they would draw better ratings if they were heel? Also what happens if they go bald soon like HBK? Will they stay "Young" Bucks? like HB"K"??

We all know he should have changed that acronym to HBM, the Heart Break Man. Maybe they will change their name to "The Big Bucks".

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Essentially, FTR is working with Cornette here, who's going out of his way to push the angle for these guys. He's indirectly promoting AEW.

Pretty smart move from FTR , as the crowd that listens to Cornette is going to like them as a tag team, though not necessarily be into AEW.

I herd that the amount of people who listen to Cornette's podcast is just below the amount that usually watch AEW. So yeah you are right, good move.

The ratings aren't really significantly moving one way or another. If there's a trend that an estimated 10k or whatever drop off during their matches, it's probably just one guy with a Nielsen box who really doesn't like them.

I watched their interview from Dynamite last week. Seems they’re basically doing a more subtle version of Cornette’s gimmick. They even mentioned FTR could stand for “follow the rules”, which is a clear as day nod to Cornette. That combined with this and... I kinda get the feeling hell is gonna freeze over and Cornette is going to work with AEW at some point. Not soon and maybe just as a one-shot thing but it just seems like we’re heading there.

Cornette showingup to manage FTR against the Bucks would be amazing. Oh god the promos lol.

That would make me want to tune in.

I want Cornette. But I don't see Tony bending over for it.

I don’t think it would be so much Tony “bending over” for it as Kenny Omega.

i wonder if they are working cornette, i can't belive that ftr was not in on 2016 bucks cody thing. they responded like they were. if fdr did not want it they could have pm'ed the bucks and say stop. i like the short term deal though so ftr can go to other places like roh and impact.

Hearing Cornette say his hatred of The Bucks is purely professional was... interesting.

IMO it just seemed like he was going out of his way to help FTR. I don't think they were working him. I mean - they were working - just in unison with one another. Cornette might not enjoy the Bucks or Omega, but would likely want a team that represents a form of wrestling he respects to have all the momentum possible.

And, while FTR probably gets along perfectly well with the Bucks and Omega, they're also southern boys who I'm guessing grew up on Jim Cornette. So, they were probably marking the fuck out, and had no problem with Jim heeling on the AEW VPs not named Cody.

It also further sells what will eventually be a big marquee tag match for AEW. The whole handshake deal is whatever. I think they'd be great in New Japan when they get going again but I can they shouldn't have an issue working Japan, Mexico and the states if they're with AEW.

FTR and Cornette were working with each other. It's helped out FTR more than their debut did.

Cornette does support AEW. In his own way. He doesn't tear down everything, and he has said he wants to to succeed. With his boys there you know he's going to come around just a bit, at least for their segments.

He sees it in a pretty logical way. It's not every day you get a billionaire taking a chance on wrestling because there is giant money in TV deals. When that billionaire's son niches the product so much that it only gets $45 million in TV rights (a pittance by TV standards), and only stands to make its money back over three years (with a bit extra), then it's going to be more off-putting to anyone else looking to get in and present the product people have really been hungry for -- something that is actually different and competitive to the WWE.

People outside wrestling aren't going to draw distinctions between good wrestling and bad wrestling. They're going to see what Vince McMahon's wrestling can do, and what "not Vince McMahon's wrestling" can do. It won't matter to them that AEW is a juiced-up PWG.

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Cornette would be a challenging fucking coach. I'd probably punch him because I'm a hot head.

I’m not keen on that approach. I get changing direction/moving away from something that isn’t working but I think they need to wrap the story up in some way. The thing with Allie is just weird. You’re not dealing with fans that don’t know that Dr. Issac Yankem became Kane, you’re dealing with an audience that knows that Allie was The Bunny, and now she’s not, with no story or payoff.

I fucking hate this guy so much. He’s such a piece of shit, and it makes it hard to invest in him as a wrestler.

Just have Tully turn on Spears after putting him with a tag team that needs him as a mouth piece

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Lmao

Orange Cassidy sinking the kinda steady ship.

I think Cornette kinda likes Darby Allin now. At least I heard him say they were doing a good job with him. At the very least he seems to have softened his stance on him as a wrestler.

Which is weird because I usually agree with Cornette but I don’t see much at all in Darby Allin.

It's gonna be revealed that OC is the bastard son of The Natchah Boy.

From what I've seen in the ring, Darby is quite good. I hate the leggings and his Coffin Drop bullshit. But at least when he dives he means it, and he can sell. He's just such a fucking horrible piece of shit human. He was gloating about paying addicts money to put their heads into dirty toilets on Jericho's podcasts. He's just awful.

I'll put my rep on the line...mark the fucking date....we are in the golden age of Tag Team Wrestling again...fucking calling it.

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Just ordered my shirt.

Just here to leave this:rofl::rofl:

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It’s not far from the truth.

Possible new signing to AEW (and it's a good one)

JFC. Actually it is about as far from the truth as one can get. It's literally factually incorrect and untrue. Unless your backyard is a 5,500 seat amphitheater or a 67k capacity NFL stadium.

Perception is reality.

Tbf with the live audience numbers at the moment it’s all Backyard Wrestling.

When I was thinking of who or which promotion would be the first to be involved as the non-AEW challenger to Cody's TNT title in Dynamite's thread this week, never expected to actually be it.

I'm ready to crack open some ice cold Budweisers after hearingthat

YEAH

Again, the guy can work, he's a decent talker, and women find him attractive. As such, the AEW Brass will not know what to do with him.

No, it's not. It's a fucking parody of itself. When WWE is actually better than you, it's time to fucking quit. You hitched your wagon to a losing horse because you're so riddled with anti-WWE angst that you would let anyone else walk up to you and put their dick in your mouth and pretend you like the taste.

Cue "take Vince McMahon's dick out of your mouth." Dude, you're obsessed. With Vince, with WWE, with dicks, with me. Your entire fandom is based around AEW being "Not WWE." Because WWE sucks. Get it? WWE sucks. At least AEW is not WWE. You don't like AEW? You must love WWE. But WWE sucks. Stop sucking Vince McMahon's cock. WWE sucks. AEW is not WWE. WWE sucks.

At their last PPV in their opening match for a World Title shot -- a clusterfuck Ladder Match in the opening match (hmm, why does that sound familiar?) -- one of the World Title contenders stood on ladder lying on the ground and tried to fly to win the match. If that doesn't insult your intelligence, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Fucking idiot cunt. You're fucking cooked. Go home.

That's a much nicer and more succinct way of saying it.

Well, Raw and SmackDown are both still several times bigger than Dynamite, respectively.

What a fucking insecure fap. "Please love me. I'll buy you stuff." Heard about him buying Burger King for the after-parties too, haha.

He'd threaten Cody too much. Getting more and more convinced that the reason AEW is such a "buffet" is because Cody doesn't want anyone but him doing pro-wrestling, because he knows he'll be out-classed the second anyone else good is around.

Seriously, can we please talk about how cunty this is?

If Shad Khan decided to put the money down for a brand new wrestling promotion when this virus ended, it could be bigger than AEW in a few weeks. Move over Jim Ross to do commentary there. Let the AEW guys do AEW things on AEW and let the brand new promotion be handled like professional wrestling on TBS or something.

Was just thinking about this. My last hope is that AEW is just a practice to see if Tony can run something on his own. Once you get the TV rights money, you can sustain this new one and even AEW for as long as you want.

It seems insane to have two wrestling promotions, but the TV revenue must sound mighty good, and AEW hasn't really secured that crust.

calm down, Noid.

Weird guy. Weird.

The crack was more about the "women find him attractive" part of my comment than anything else. Because none of the AEW crowd is designed to draw women. The reason is that the fans for the AEW crowd have never had a positive interaction with a woman that wasn't named "Mom."

Let's be real, as much hate as John Cena received, he lasted as long as he did on top because the Mom's of the kids that were much of his fanbase found him attractive. Same deal with Roman Reigns.

If a wrestling promotion isn't finding a way to engage the female audience, be it with pushing a dude they'd find attractive or with a storyline that'd maintain thier attention (Edge/Lita/Matt is the first one to pop into my head, Mandy/Otis I guess would be another) they are doing it wrong.

Ricky Starks sucks.

He's 190 lbs. They have enough of those guys already. They need less wet noodles and more guys in the 220 range and up. Like Cage. Or Rusev.

:lol: Did someone piss in Noid's cereal again?

I like how Tony Khan went out of his way to say Hulk Hogan is banned from AEW. We finally found a former WWE guy AEW doesn't want to sign!

All AEW has shown is at best they are a blend of TNA bringing in every former WWE guy they can and Ring of Honor bringing in the biggest Indy names they can and telling us how great they are.

It's just this weird mix where they are using the Indy names to put over the former WWE guys, unless it is the executives, who then use the former WWE guys to put themselves over, unless the former WWE guys are actual stars like Jericho or Moxley.

Everything is a tongue in cheek eye wink joke, and the only one who comes across having any real passion for the brand is Cody Rhodes. Everybody else is just working the gimmick that AEW is the greatest thing ever, bragging about their contracts and freedom.

They have lost a third of their audience in one year. They had the chance to hook them, and failed miserably.

Another third are like me, they still watch because it's wrestling, and wrestling is better then pretty much anything else on tv.

Then the last third are brainwashed and think a dude riding a horse on a football field is the greatest thing of all time, and will scream it to anybody and everybody they can. These are the ones that make the above third like me embarrassed to watch the same show they do.

... Well who the hell SHOULD they be bringing in???

Better/worse than Bran Stark