Hate web shooters.

First Class already sounded stupid, that "fake picture" makes it worse.



http://i56.tinypic.com/2jaxp9d.jpg

I've seen that. Pretty bad, but worth seeing if you're a fan of the extended X-Family.

I have the DVD of this film. :D

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If you can't web swing you gotta do something, I guess.

Also, that First Class pic is legit. Hi res versions should hit this week.

Angel is NOT a FEMALE!

Therefore, fake.

Dude... it's been confirmed real...

OK, imdb confirms that Zoe Kravitz is playing Angel Salvadore, not Warren Worthington/Angel. So that's a BIG difference.

But the character bio is basically the same creation story as WW's, so I'm not a happy camper.

Hi res official shot of the new (old?) X-Men:

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/im...1295464371.jpg

I'm sure this is an old topic, but whatever... is First Class a reboot? Or a prequel of the original trilogy? And has it been confirmed whether or not this is coming off of the Wolverine movie or has this branched out to it's own X-Movie-Universe.

Fuck, the whole situation is fucked up. Why is Mystique an X-Man here? The make-up looks identical to the Mystique from the original trilogy, but nobody ever mentioned her being a former X-Men in those films.

And to be honest these costumes look prety crap (though I'll decide properly when I see the whole things).

Fucking reboots. :foc:

Prequel/Reboot/Clusterfuckjustbuyticketsemmafrostisinlingerie

I don't care about X-continuity anymore (neither does Fox), I'm game for whatever.

A google image search reveals that Emma Frost is very often in lingerie. What's your problem with that?

None whatsoever. In fact that's my favorite portion of the pic.

I was just being 'silly'.

Would love to see Moira and Emma in a lesbian scene.

Some guys in the forum would call you sexist for that. Not me, though.

Different Angel tard.

Thanks. I figured that out hours before your post, tard.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images...rst-class1.jpg
There is one thing I like and one thing I dislike about this photo.

He's gonna get her foot loose.

Looks 70's-ish. Which would suggest it's not a reboot. Then again Emma Frost is old. Which suggests that it is a reboot.

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/s...2E-550x366.jpg

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/s...40-550x366.jpg

I barely read your posts as it is. So fucking bite me.

Are these pictures seriously serious?

Magneto's looking... yeah.

ahahahahahahahahahaha

Look at how big magneto's head looks. He's like a bobble head.

I'm sure there's a perfectly rational explanation for that terrible Magneto pic.

Do this after Wesley Snipes goes to jail. Great.

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Better Pics of X-Men Origins: X-Men

http://latimesherocomplex.files.word...pg?w=600&h=376
http://latimesherocomplex.files.word...pg?w=600&h=400

Raising your eyebrow = telepathy

hmmmm, I don't think snipes would be a good fit honestly. BP has a regal air about him that I'm not sure snipes could pull off. He's like the good guy version of Dr. Doom.

I think a lot of people immediately think of snipes because he's black, and he's a martial artist. You don't even need some amazing martial artist for the role, as all the really cool stuff he'll be doing will be under the mask. You could put anyone under there for that.

I miss Blade. Saw Blade II on netflix last night. Awesome.

Heh, Magneto looks ridiculous. Seriously, he looks like a parody of himself, like that's how he'd appear if he showed up in the next Scary Movie spinoff.

You can't tell me you don't like bacon.

Oh God, seriously I burst out laughing when I saw this.

This looks like footage of someone just dressing up as Spider-Man and running out into the streets lol. Not really liking the costume though. Hopefully it'll come across better on the actual screen.

that looks weird, I mean I know that they dont always shoot films in the cities they are supposed to take place in, but everything in the entire setting just looks like California with the wide streets and even the building style. The only thing they did was put nypd on the cop cars....


i dunno maybe its nothing, but i think this movie is gonna suck

Based on the number of lanes in a street or...

it just looks like a mismatch... your supposed to be in ny and everything looks like ur in cali. It just looks weird

when watching that video i thought of a guy running down the street in la and then i saw the cop cars and was like wtf?

and not just the streets but also the surrounding buildings

These look terrible just terrible, i hope im wrong though

Makes no difference to someone who isn't familiar with the look/architecture of either city.

Y'know, this Spider-Man film and this X-Men film, this is the first time I've ever NOT been excited about a Marvel movie.

I was even pumped for Elektra (which I enjoyed). But these films have really done nothing for me.

Right now, I literally cream myself over any updates on Thor, Captain America and the Avengers, and then we get X-Men and Spidey pics etc and I'm just like 'urgh'.

No doubt I'll see them in the cinema, buy the DVD for the collection, and probably enjoy the films anyway (hey, I enjoyed Elektra!!!), but right now, hype, excitement, anticipation etc. It's not there.

I get that vibe, too. You know what I think it is (well for me anyway)? I'm just tired of the old Sony-owned/Fox-owned posture of Spidey and X-Men. What's going on with the Avengers is 100% more interesting to me and I feel like I'm 'witnessing' something before my eyes. Spidey reboot and X-Men 0 just seem so... Hollywood by comparison. They're even created for the same reasons, some perceived failure of the last trilogy finales, and they wanna start over like that's always a better idea.

But yeah mostly it's the whole Spidey's over here, X-Men's over there thing. I remember even saying if they're going for these kinds of reboots Marvel should just reacquire them and assimilate them in the new movie-verse. It doesn't need to be cross-over mania at the start - but imagine a post-credits scene after Avengers where Sam Jackson is explaining the superteam to a shadowy figure sitting across from him. The camera pans and we see Hugh Jackman smoking a cigar and turning the offer down, "I already have a team." Sam would be like, "They won't be enough for what's coming." Cut to black. Boom. There you go. More hype than Magneto in that silly helmet above, I tell you what.

/rant

That looks like an action figure.

I'm assuming it'll look better on film with the proper lighting and everything. And yeah, that does look a little goofy, but I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that it's not a very Spidey-like pose.

They could have at least adopted Ben Reily's Spidey suit (which may or may not have raised drama). That suit above just isn't a good suit, as far as all the suits compared goes.

The design on the gloves seem to allude to a much cooler suit, but what we have is something seemingly unfinished. Look at the red that usually connects the glove and shoulder; why is it thinned out like that? They repeat this with the leg lining and it doesn't look attractive. And the red on the chest kinda falls down the midsection to nowhere, looking very awky without a 'belt' area.

I'm not one of those clowns who hate any change to superhero suits, I was probably the only guy who embraced the Superman Returns suit right off the bat, but this Spidey suit is rubbing me the wrong way. I don't think it looked good on paper either.

But yeah good lighting, poses, and and angles can make anything look great.

I'm not sure better is the right word...

Not as bad?

Those pics are fine.

It's people standing around.

Hmm...

I like the new Spidey suit. I know this is stupid to say about a superhero flick, but it looks more realistic to me. Like the smaller eyes too.

I went on Superherohype.com and the fan boys are even ripping apart Caps costume. Haters gonna hate I guess.

See now that's retarded. Caps costume is incredible.

Everything on this page traumatized me. Cap's suit is great, but that's on the page before.

Also, to respond to something being discussed earlier: Spider-Man seeming like it's in NYC is very important, I think.

The new Spidey suit really just looks awful. I know that's a stunt suit, and will look "better", but I really don't like the pattern or look at all.

In general I agree that I'm just not excited for Spidey or X-Men at all this time around. With Spidey, I have interest because I love the character and world so much.

But I'm also not too enthusiastic to see them revisit his origins and youth, and try to improve.
I have next to no interest in seeing another take on Ben & Mae or the Daily Bugle already.

X-Men I just don't know what to say about. I'm almost floored by how poor the pictures look.
It doesn't make any sense to me, since Matthew Vaughn is such a talented guy and so keen on the material. I hope he really brings it together and makes a good movie, but just based on all of the creative and visual decisions I've seen so far, I'm stumped.
He was pretty vocal about how horrible he thought X3 was, so he's all-in here.

I didn't have high hopes for another X-Men movie at all, after X3 and Wolverine, but I thought Mathew Vaughn would at least provide some glimmer of hope

Personally I loved Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3. Both films made up for perfect trilogys. Wolverine was awesome too, but for reason I tend not to think of that as a part of the X-Men trilogy.

Anyways, despite both movies third outings getting shit loads of criticisms, I still think they were great, and don't see why they've had to reboot both series so soon.

Like Jeritron said, now we have to go through Ben Parkers death again, the spider bite, the wrestling scenes etc. Likewise with X-Men, which is just kind of a huge clusterfuck anyway, and I'm assuming Magneto will be the bad guy again? I mean after X-Men 3 surely they could have used any excuse to bring the team back again, and then faced against someone like Apocalypse.

Both film series in my opinion were perfectly cast. Especially X-Men. Now they've gone and thrown in all these youngsters whom I've never heard of, but are doubt rising up the ranks with Twilight or whatever those dancing movies are called.

Seriously, I'll get the DVDs regardless coz I'm a comic freak, and to be fair once I've seen the films I'll probably enjoy them (I am very easily amused with films), but right now I don't give a fuck about either of these films. And I've yet to see a single photo that has impressed me.

Sweet mechanical is awesome, I always hated the biological thing, the science nerd aspect of Peter Parker was sorely missing from the Raimi trilogy

LOL this looks like X-men if it was done by the BBC

To be fair, the organic web shooters did make more sense.

Organic shooters are way better. He gets bit by a radioactive spider, crawls on walls, gets spider-sense, 'kinda' super strength, crazy agility... and then he has to make his own web shooters? I mean in a comic book reality sort of way, you'd think shooting webs would be part of the package.

The organic make sense but I prefer the science aspect of the web shooter. Peter inventing stuff was one the things that made him cool.

He can still do that without having to make web shooters. I personally like the 'specialized suit' gimmick. He always had a 'middle-class Tony Stark' side about him. That's all good.

But organic webs ftw.

But with web shooters he gets to go "I'm all out of web fluid!" every other time he fights a bad guy.

I kinda missed that forced drama. It kinda worked though and created some cool moments where Spidey had to figure out alternate ways to fight the guy.

I don't know everything you listed was essentially enhancements to his human body whereas web shooters would require glands to grow and shit which is on a whole different level.Either or are fine, I just like the science based cause to me it's cooler and fits with Parker's character.

Fine, he grows glands. Is that really a different level? Like... after Peter would tell you about climbing walls and his spider-sense and stronger body, would you hear about the web glands and go, "Wait what!? Now that's crazy!" C'mon.

Yeah, it isn't bad. I'm just poking fun at the 90s cartoon where he seemed to always run out of web fluid at alarming rates and at the most inconvenient times.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How would you describe First Class to the uninitiated?

MATTHEW VAUGHN: The best way of describing it is X-Men meets Bond, with a little bit of Thirteen Days thrown in for good measure. It’s set in the ’60s, and I basically molded a young Magneto on a young Sean Connery. He’s the ultimate spy — imagine Bond, but with superpowers.

If Magneto is Bond, then what about Charles Xavier?

You’re seeing Xavier become a professor. For me, Magneto is the good guy in the film, but he’s a sort of a good bad guy. He literally kicks off the movie, and Xavier goes along on the ride trying to figure out what the hell is going on, and trying to persuade Erik that you don’t have to kill everyone.

I know you’re under tight restrictions about what you can reveal regarding the plot, but, well, what else can you say?

In the beginning of the film, no one knows that mutants exist, and all the mutants don’t know that each other exist. They’re all in hiding. Kevin Bacon plays a very megalomaniac mutant [Sebastian Shaw] who decides that he can take over the world and that mutants are the future. Erik and Charles then meet each other and hook up with the CIA to try and prevent World War III. You find out everything about what went on between Erik and Charles.

And there are flashbacks with Erik and Charles as young children?

They’re not flashbacks — we start there. It starts in 1942, and then works its way up to 1962.

Did you have any concerns about how, no matter what you do, you may anger some of the die-hard fans?

Yeah, but I could tell those fans that they’re wrong. One thing about the X-Men world is that, if you know your X-Men universe, every writer reinvented the storyline. I did my research, and none of the histories of the characters make any sense. Each writer just totally changed the history to make their plot work. So I can quite safely say that X-Men has a history of reinventing its history for the sake of the plot.

Is the movie related at all to the First Class comics?

Not really. There are a lot of nods to the X-Men world and the X-Men movies, but it’s definitely its own beast.

You were going to direct X-Men: The Last Stand and then dropped out two months before filming started. The story is that you thought you weren’t going to have enough time to see your vision through…

That’s true. It was as simple as that. In retrospect, I probably would have had more time then than I do now, which is highly ironic. But I also have more experience now than I did then. And I had no idea how big-budget filmmaking worked, so I was just applying small-budget independent-style logic to the wrong equation. And when I saw the film, I realized that Fox would have given me all the tools I needed. I was just stupid enough not to take them. But we both decided to cross the bridge together again. I definitely had burned a bridge. But they asked, so we met and we both kissed and made up and went off to make the film.

How did you settle on James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender as Professor X and Magneto, respectively?

Professor X is a very hard character to cast. Out of all the characters, he’s the dullest if you really think about it. He’ll be in a wheelchair eventually, and he’s sort of a sanctimonious preacher half of the time. Patrick Stewart brought so much to that role, and I needed to get an actor who could do the same — who could give him a fourth dimension that’d make him sparkle. James was literally at the top of the list, and he said yes, so I got my first actor very quickly.

Magneto was a juicier role. I’ve been watching Fassbender for a long time, and I knew the guy was going to pop as a movie star. He read it and knocked it out of the park, and the rest of the cast just fell in around them. What makes me laugh is, by this time next year, half of my cast is going to be extremely popular and famous. Jennifer Lawrence [i.e. Raven Darkholme/Mystique] is going to pop. Nicholas Hoult [i.e. Hank McCoy/Beast] definitely is. People are going to find Kevin Bacon a revelation, and January Jones [i.e. Emma Frost] has got huge star potential.

And, please, one more story tease?

It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it.

Twilight girls will like it. Does not sound good.

Also, I want to see a pic of Bacon as Shaw really bad.

There's some Bacon action in the last few pages somewhere.

What?

That can't be, been reading this thread regularly recently.

And when I google Kevin Bacon Sebastian Shaw I only get pics comparing Bacon to the comic book Sebastian Shaw.

Oh, ok. Found it, his haircut looks stupid.

Just looks like Bacon, not Sebastian Shaw.

Which works for me.

But if he grew glands why did he not grow other spider features, why did his eyes stay the same etc...

I'll go refer to the radioactive spider venom text book...

...It says Lara should stop nitpicking a perfectly fine retcon. Page 1, actually.

Whatever, science element just adds something to the character. The mutation aspect didn't ruin Spider-Man or anything , I just like that they went back to the original source.

Wow, this X-Men film sounds awful. It's a bunch of terrible Twilight actors thrown into a 60's Bond movie, with teenage angst and mutant powers that girls are going to love. Fucking awesome!

Also, I seriously doubt the cast of First Class will do anything near as good as the original. 'Xavier is a hard guy to cast', fuck this guy playing Xavier, I have no idea who he is, but I'm guessing he was in Twilight or Harry Potter or Step Up or some crappy kids movie or another. Patrick Stewart was Charles Xavier before casting for those films even began. This guy is a flavour of the month nobody.

FUCK I'm so angry at how bad this film looks.

I'll still get the DVD though. :foc:

Don't think this has Twilight actors.

I didn't mean that literally.

The kid playing Xavier was in a movie with Angelina Jolie about making bullets turn directions with the power of your will!

Never seen it, but judging by the plot it has GOT the be a classic.

At least buy it used :lol:

So we're all agreed that they should have went with X4, eh?

yup

I remember dreaming up a possible X4 where Gambit would be the new lead. Somebody here didn't like that, don't remember who.

Jesus..I actually got excited for this movie for a little bit the moment the screenshots and more details came up..my worst fears came to life. I fucking knew if they did a First Class movie they were going to have to appeal to the stupid ass teen Twilight audience in some way.

Well your first contention can and was used against Wolverine and here we are with a (mostly) successful movie franchise a decade later. There's no reason to think Gambit couldn't have been fitted into the main role - especially played by somebody like Josh Holloway. Wolverine wasn't considered a good lead until Hugh Jackman filled out his movie version. Saying he isn't a leader type is almost moot.

Overrated? I don't know about all that. He's a total badass with destructive power yet a cool demeanor. Sure he seems obviously designed to be 'cool' but that's most comic characters to begin with. I wouldn't say one of the most underused X-Men is the most "overrated in history", though.

He could have definitely headlined a fourth movie while Hugh was off doing Wolverine solos.

And he would have came at a sweet opportunity to have some interaction with Rogue, who's powers would have certainly returned in my vision of the movie. She was initially attached to Wolverine a bit, goes out with nice guy, breaks up with nice guy, and now meets this new rebel dude who reminds her of her brief father figure. He could even get Rogue to loosen up a bit and *gasp* behave closer to her flirtatious comic book version!

My X4 would have been dope, homey.

There's a joke about superhero tights and Lara's crotch here somewhere.

Wolverine's also a terrible leader and he was a star but never a leader in the X-movies until half way through 3, ya know the one everyone hates (I enjoyed it on same levels but iwasn't because Wolverine was in charge)

Gambit doesn't have the same history or casual recognition. When I say he's overrated I mean by a lot of comic book fnsw not the general public. BTW the fact that you think Gambit, one of the most underused characters in your own words, should somehow lead the X-men is exactly what I mean by he's overrated

So it becomes the Gambit/Rogue show, aka the 1990s, I'll pass.

What do you think I mean by 'lead', may I ask?

But let's say I'd like him to actually lead the team, I don't see how him being underused hurts the idea. In fact many comic characters go through a period of creative apathy before they become highlighted in something big. But I won't carry this on, you don't seem to like Gambit at all and it isn't my job to change that.

BTW, the 90's X-Men you hate so much? That era is what put X-Men in the mainstream thinks to that little cartoon with all the Gambit/Rogue drama (like there was really a lot of that).

unrelated note am I the only one that doesn't think Thor looks fantastic?

A lot of us here liked the trailer.

I don't think Thor will be good. It looks like it will be entertaining though.

I have tremendously low expectations for Captain America.