I think the Huntress would be better as a latina. That's all.

Of course it has to involve bondage.

That just made my day.

For his sanity btw.

Shame the character when she was rebooted, cause the original was Helena Wayne Bruce and Selena's kid, was ITALIAN CAUSE SHE'S THE DAUGHTER OF AN ITALIAN MOBSTER YOU STUPID FUCKING IGNORANT FUCK! I OUTTA GO DOWN TO MIAMI, GRAB YOUR THOR HAMMER AND SHOVE IT DOWN YOUR THROAT AND DECLARE MYSELF THE NEW GOD OF THUNDER! YOU GOT ME YOU ASSHOLE!? HUH!? HUH!?

And then I had a heart attack.

I like latinas. Damn.

DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE!

Superman is just a fucking mountain of a man. I always marvel at how he's drawn.

Lame.:-\:-\:|

Horrible news.

My Marvel comics were safe with him in DC.

For some reason, I never like it when writers decide to make Superman and Wonder Woman a couple. For starters, because I don't buy the whole argument that Clark shouldn't be with Lois just because they can't fuck--first of all because that's an incredibly shallow way of looking at things, and secondly because they've come up with tons of ways around that over the years.

And I dunno, maybe I've got an angry-militant-feminist in my head or something, but it always kinda seems to cheapen Diana when they take Wonder Woman, who's supposed to be the idyllic model for women to aspire to, and say "eh, make her Superman's girlfriend."

Just reread Superman: Ending Battle. Man, forgot what a cop out the ending of it is.

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I wish they weren't doing it as a two parter. But I'm exited nontheless.

More about Supes/Wonder Woman:

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I don't see the big deal.

At some point the original continuity will return, and clark will be with lois again.

Yeah Earth-2 and all its parallel universes will return, and the DCnU will exist as a new Earth. DCnU Earth-2 will likely be rebranded at this point.

I'm 100% sure of this, and not in a sarcastic way.

I've been saying from the very beginning that the DCnU is doomed, so I fully expect the regular DCU to return within the next couple of years.

In the meantime, here's my latest blog article bitching about how WW/Supes is an awful idea on every level.

Sadly, at this point I don't see the pre-Flashpoint DCU ever coming back. I can certainly see the current continuity changing and evolving over the years to be more like it, but I don't think they will just drop everything and bring back the old.

They've done it a million times with big changes to characters and storylines and more than once overturned reboots/retcons that were supposed to last. I admit reverting from such a large reboot would be unprecedented, and kinda embarrassing, but I find that their mulit-Earth thing always gave them a card they can play when things go sour enough.

This is a comic universe where relaunches are also canon because of that detail.

I read your article and I have a few things to say about it.

Firstly, everything you said about Superman being grounded by being attached to Lois Lane is absolutely true. That said, it doesn't make it a bad thing, that he's not with her anymore.

If it was the original universe, I would agree. But what is the point of a new universe, with a new superman, that is exactly the same as the old one? I am interested to see how this new superman, without that humility and humanity he gained from his relationship with lois, handles himself in different situations.

As for labeling Wonder Woman as "just superman's girlfriend", I think it's unfair to do so until we can actually see her role in the relationship. I don't think it's fair to say it diminishes her role as a strong, independent woman just because she has a boyfriend.

I mean if she's in an apron making superman a sandwhich next issue, then yeah, sure. I'mn going to wait to see what her role in the relationship is. It's very possible that she will indeed end up being portrayed as "just superman's girlfriend". It's also possible, however, that she will be presented as an equal in the relationship. I feel we could get some good stories out of that.

I guess I've always thought that alternate universes were exactly the place to try stuff like this. We all know that the original DCU will return at some point. So I don't see the harm in trying different stuff. If it works, great. If it doesn't, well no big deal. No harm done.

I also hate this knee jerk reaction, that comic fans have toward stuff like this. When the Winter Soldier was revealed as Bucky, I must have had 20 conversations where I said "Let's just wait and see how it's written". But everyone ignored me and called out bloody murder for this "blasphemy".

Then what happened? The Winter Soldier story, and the entire run for that matter, became one of, if not the best Cap runs in history.

Any concept, no matter how much it seems it won't work, can be turned into a great story with the right writing. I absolutely refuse to condemn a decision until I see how it's written.

Giving Batman a son gave me my favorite Robin.

Plus, we don't even have any clue where this is going. This relationship with Diana could go horribly wrong for the simple reason they are both superheroes, and that experience is what could lead him to seek out a relationship with a human like lois. To give himself all the qualities that the relationship with lois in the dcu gives him.

So let's all calm the fuck down.

Yeah, exactly. I'm always hesitant about stories like that, but like always, I gave it a chance, and Damien turned out to be a fantastic character.

Eh. I'm not a fan of Damian. But that's mostly because I'm a big Tim Drake fan, and Damian being there means that Tim has been all but kicked out of the Bat-Family and given a really stupid new name and costume.

And I'd be a lot more willing to give the whole Superman/Wonder Woman thing a chance if they weren't so absolutely blatant about it just being a publicity stunt. Not to mention it shows there's little to no communication between the writers, since Azzarello was very clearly trying to put Wonder Woman together with Orion in her own comic, before they announced "Nope, she's with Superman now!"

And frankly, I don't want to give it a chance. I've been pretty constantly disappointed in the New 52 ever since it was announced. And I'm getting sick of them announcing "shocking changes to the status quo" seemingly every other week. The whole thing just reeks of being a cheap gimmick.

I wasn't a fan of Damian until he actually became Robin with Dick Grayson as Batman. Then I loved him. I also liked Tim as Red Robin, his series was good, and I liked him evolving as a hero like Dick Grayson did.

Have not enjoyed Damian so much in the new 52. Dunno. He just worked better with Dick Grayson then with his father. I am behind in Bat-Stuff, so he could have got better again.

Oh yeah, and new 52 Tim Drake is just a big mess with a crappy costume.

So there was gonna be a Justice League/Transformers crossover(!):

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That could've been pretty awesome.

They did do an Avengers/Transformers crossover a few years back.

Still wtf out by that.

I like Damian and Tim. New 52 totally fucked over Tim.

I've got New Avengers/Transformers. Still need to read it, but the art looks fantastic, which gives it a leg up on all most of the rest of these types of crossovers.

Remember DC vs Marvel looking like absolute dogshit, and being like "really? Biggest crossover in comics history, and this is what it looks like?".

Fucking 90's, I swear to god.

X-men was fantastic, everything else blew chunks.

Onslaught notwithstanding.

Reading a Superman comic from 2003. Writer gave him Super-Smell for whatever reason. Never seen him have a super sense of smell before.

There was comic where Superman got high (comically implied, of course) from some rare king of K, and was able to smell fresh baked brownies in the mid-west from the Watchtower. Logic (even by comic standards) aside, I thought it was funny.

I suppose he would have super smell, I wouldn't call that crazy.

Over the past year and a half I have been slowly reading every Superman comic from 1985 (Man of Steel Post-Crisis Reboot) onwards. Currently in 2003. I should have been documenting my process, pointing out notable stories from each year. Too late for that, though. Not gonna start now.

I'm ok with Super-Wondy but I'm just indifferent to the DCn52 outside of Snyder's Batman and Azzarello's Wonder Woman.

I am curious to see where this Shazam nonsense is headed though.

Just finished reading the Supergirl/Linda Danvers series by Peter David. It is quite good. Shifts tone a couple of times but manages to stay pretty sweet. Sad that the character is gone now.

Peter David has said that if the series wasn't canceled, it would have become a Birds of Prey type book, with a cast of Linda Danvers as Superwoman, Kara Zor-El as Supergirl, and Power Girl. Would have loved to see that.

That sounds cool.

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The pages with Megatron and Spider-Man were interesting.

Just read the first two issues, and it was the drizzling shits. Like, literally the worst fucking thing I've read in years.

And whoever decided to use Jim Cheung for 1 cover, and not the book itself, is a fucking imbecile. Art is generic looking trash. Think I've seen hostess ads more impressive.

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*shrug*

Arrow and now Amazon....they really want to have lighting strike twice like they had with Smallville.

Well okay, hope this works out for them.

Why not just reach into the bottomless money pit of WB and work on a good, live Batman show and not spend money on stuff like "Beware The Batman" and just produce a JLA cartoon in the same universe as Batman: The Brave & The Bold?

I'm curious what they will retcon about Tim in Teen Titans #0, in which his background is the focus.

Here's the solicitation:

So much for him never being Robin then.

Hey, what the fuck happenned to the thread title?

I hadn't even noticed. Change it back!

This used to be my favourite thread.

Now the magic's gone.

I like it

I don't read DC Comics (except maybe a Batman now and then) but I'm very excited for the new tv show on the CW network called "ARROW" ...Holy balls it looks decent ..especially for the CW.

Yeah Arrow looks pretty good. Huntress and Deadshot being in there makes me excited, as they were talking like the show wasn't gonna acknowledge the DCU.

I gathered from bleedingcool.com DC has already retconned itself with the zero issues of Superboy and Demon Knights. That only took a year.

Fail.

kalyx, im enjoying this comic you have been posting.

is the bookstore clerk a dc character too?

He's real life writer Neil Gaiman, who has epic nerd cred similar to Joss Whedon, but more international.

Though now that I think about it, I don't think Gaiman has ever actually written Superman or Wonder Woman, which kinda makes him an odd choice to be the guy who Clark goes to to get a book for Diana. If it were Alan Moore, maybe, but this seems kinda, I dunno......forced.

Or it's just a cool cameo.

I guess, but so far everyone in the comic has been pretty strictly in-universe. Why break the fourth wall and start introducing people from the real world now?

I mean, I'm hoping there's a specific and integral reason for this-- especially since Gaiman's pretty legendary for his own metafictional writings, about the nature of storytelling and what characters and stories mean to us in the real world, etc. Little League hasn't let me down yet, and they've got the potential to do something really really cool here. If it's just for the sake of a cool nerd-cred cameo, then it's a real wasted opportunity.

Maybe Sandman winds up involved somehow, either in the story or AS the story Clark buys.

I'm down with that. Sandman was awesome. And it's technically still in-universe since it took place within the DCU.

Batman The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 is on streaming sites. Only 30 min and I plan on buying it.

What's with all these comic francises lately not going with the character name, but trying something more dramatic, more striking, and more gay?

Smallville was a one-off that worked, I guess... but "Arrow"? "Amazon"? Not DC, but even the new Judge Dredd movie is just called "Dredd". Seriously feels like the next bunch of Marvel movies will be called "The Spider" and "X". :nono:

Also, not trying to sound like a dick, I like DC comics and all, but I just feel that nobody gives a shit about Green Arrow or Wonder Woman. It's either Batman or Superman.

That's what they're trying to solve.

My boss surprised me with the first three issues of Batman: Incorporated. He knew I loved comics but he didn't know which books I read. I just finished all 3....Good story just totally off the wall and nobody other than Batman/Robin I have ever even heard of. May continue the series who knows.

Could have said the same about Marvel/X-Men/Spiderman up until a few years ago. Iron Man was quite a gamble when it went into production and if that had flopped I doubt we'd have seen Thor/Cap/Avengers.

Confirmed:

The Royal Flush Gang will be in the CW's Arrow.

...why?

Why not.

Well ain't the RFG a Batman villain? I mean I know they get passed around like a cheap deck of cards but I thought they stayed in the Batman part of town and don't get much into Star City.

Also calling it now....10 will be the Daughter of the King and Queen and fall in love with Green Arrow.

I don't mind that at all, RFG needs exposure. You wanna wait for the next Batman reboot?

Royal Flush Gang was primarily a Justice League villain. Though they fought pretty much everybody at one point. Became big jobbers.

Yeah, I think at this point the Royal Flush Gang is kinda like DC's version of the Wrecking Crew: all-purpose jobbers with juuust enough superpowers that anyone can have a decent fight with them.

But at least they called it "Iron Man", and not something daft like "Iron". Or even "Steel". :shifty:

My only concern was a continuity one that's all. But yeah, bring 'em on. Though wait...doesn't GA have a thing for Black Canary?

I SMELL LOVE TRIANGLE!

DC has announced Tim Drake was never Robin.

He was Batman's Boy Wonder, whatever that means.


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Yeah, they announced it awhile ago.... but the Teen Titans #0 solicitation says "Focusing on the origin of Tim Drake; how a would be Olympic star and computer genius went on to become Batman’s third Robin".

So I dunno.

Tim Drake is one of my favorite characters so I hope they don't screw this up too bad.

edit: Tim Drake was a would-be Olympic star?

In the new continuity, I guess so.

This whole New 52 thing still just depresses the heck outta me. The DC Universe was so good before they rebooted it. It was in a great place.

I understand why they did it...but I still have mixed feelings about most of it.

Marvel has just as convoluted a history as DC does and they've been able to avoid reboots.

Just watched The Dark Knight Returns: Part I.

Was pretty freaking sweet.

Yeah, if you don't count the entire Ultimate universe as a reboot.

But DC should've followed that model, rather than trying to actually replace their mainstream continuity.

Can't wait for Part 2 so I can rewatch part 1 and onto 2 seamlessly as it were a 2 in half hour movie :)

that just makes Batman sound like a child molester

Here's a preview of Tim's new origin.

I don't know about this.


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I don't know about DCnU in general.

I'm fairly certain the JL8 strips might be the best comic going today or at least those using DC or Marvel characters.

Sad but true, for me anyway.

The only DC Comics that I am current on, and try to read every month, are:

Animal Man
Swamp Thing
Aquaman
Earth 2
Worlds' Finest
Smallville Season 11

Way behind on everything else. I should catch up on Batman.

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