Have like 3 episodes of Dynamite on my PVR that I haven't watched......

The old cage is shit. You cant work with it. The mesh is way better

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I preferred the blue bars growing up but began appreciating the chain link fence style more as an adult. Funny that the more family friendly cage hurt more.

The old cage also took like 9 years to set up right before the match.

I remember this one time we were taping the local rassling fed for TV, and they had a cage match. It took them forever to put it together. They had one guy with a screwdriver. Eventually they came to us and asked if we had another screwdriver.

Like, WTF... you knew you had to put together a cage tonight, prepare and bring a drill or something.

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I can't post the video but I had no idea Orange Cassidy could be Matt Riddles brother.

Hahahahaha... screwdriver...

PWInsider reports WalMart will carry AEW toy line

Oh good..cause Wal Mart still has WWE figures from 7 years ago in their clearance bin. I'm sure they'll find a nice home there

AEW's first "major" signing since their on-air debut is Lance Archer. The 43 year old cousin of Kid Kash with a tramp stamp. The Ellis Island of Professional Wrestling, folks.

Lance Archer made a post saying that "EVERYBODYDIES." Matt Hardy is marketing himself as "UNKILLABLE." I think I've found the special attraction for Double or Nothing II.

Lance Archer was shit hot over the past year and was one of the brightest spots in the G1. Good move for both sides.

Should Brodie Lee sign there I am all for some crazy ass Brodie/Archer brawls.

:lol: “major”... I’ll always appreciate the time you were objective, but damn, if you haven’t become fucking pathetic and a awful cocksucker of WWE, McMahons, and HHH.

i want to see a slap fight video involving crip and noid

:lol::rofl:

I don't slap... outside of slapping complaints, other pleadings, and subpoenas, et al., on to opposing, or potentially opposing counsel and/or parties, of which Noid is obviously not currently, in any remote dispute/disagreement with me personally. Noid is still a good person, and I appreciate his opinion, even if I don't agree with it, and/or think he's simply wrong.

I don't think I'm the one that's lost impartiality. Brings back memories of this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGH2lqrU0AACT5F.jpg

I'll call the WWE out for being shit. That doesn't make AEW good.

I remember when Giant Bernard got really good in Japan. That Doc Gallows is tearing it up too.

AEW's big weakness when it comes to talent is that they didn't break bank in a sensible way from the start. They hired all The Bucks' and Omega's friends and gave themselves a low-rent look from the start.

I'm pretty sure they expected CM Punk to sign with them. All the Chicago-based stuff and them being a good sized promotion running against Vince. But Punk has always carried himself with a bit of dignity and taken his wrestling pretty seriously. It's pretty insulting when you have a bunch of no-marks flopping around and making it look easy and trivial.

They've also missed out on every significant free agent. They've all signed with either WWE or ROH. AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, The Usos, Luke Gallows, Karl Anderson, Randy Orton, Cain Velasquez, Killer Kross, Scarlett Bordeaux, Marty Scurll and probably many more I'm forgetting off the top of my head. Rey Mysterio probably knew this thing was coming about. He signed with WWE. Daniel Bryan probably got wind of it. He signed with WWE.

I mean, at some point you've got to accept the hand you've got and play the best you can, which might be Vance Archer, Matt Hardy and Luke Harper (if ROH doesn't swoop in and take him). But that's kind of their fault.

No, I don’t think you will.

Meltzer speculated Revolution might end up with around 80-85k ppv buys as a worst case scenario due to the big hit they very likely are going to take from the UK market since ITV shut down their ppv service there.

FITE is carrying the event for the UK and internationally but he doesn't think it will fully make up the 20k in buys from that region.

He also did speculate that the US could end up carrying the load from the UK as a potential scenario as well based on how well the tv build for the event was compared to Full Gear.

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Meltzer is either setting the bar really low so that when AEW gets 100k worldwide buys he can act spellbound by how amazing it is, or he's bracing for impact.

The show has been built around Jericho/Moxley and Cody/MJF. One of them is a WWE-style program around two guys from the WWE that people know, while the other has the most protected babyface going against the best heel they've got. It's got a real shot at doing some business, even if the TV has lost people and Full Gear didn't do that amazing coming off that initial boost.

I'm more interested to see how they do with Double or Nothing II, as there will be that year-to-year comparison. But this buyrate is hard to predict. Especially since Meltzer stopped reporting the data clearly, because it led to things like revealing that there was a <30% retention rate for All Out. They only have so many potential fans and first-time buyers to burn through.

The number will tell an interesting story, but you're probably not going to hear Meltzer tell it. He's already settled on the "UK is down" narrative. If domestic buys are down, that won't explain a single thing, but I don't expect that to be addressed.

And no, I do not hate Meltzer. He's just very clearly biased and angling stories to make AEW look more pristine than they are. That's obvious. The extent of his Full Gear reporting was basically "It's about the same as All Out," wasn't it?

Unlike Noid, I do hate Dave Meltzer. He is a con artist and the furthest thing from an impartial journalist. I think he is trash and has zero credibility professionally.

There is a reason "plans change, that will be $11.99" is a meme, cause the dude is a joke.

Meltzer clearly gets inside information. He's been right about lots of things. This seems weirdly insignificant, but Randy Orton winning the 2017 Royal Rumble always comes to mind. I'd have no clue that was happening if Meltzer didn't report it. But more and more Meltzer seems to be going to the odds-makers because they seem to know way more than he does.

I don't expect him to be unbiased. I really don't. And I can understand when he has to cover so many hours of this shit that he wants the underdogs to succeed. And they're his friends, so he's going to curve towards them. I actually don't mind that. But that doesn't mean he can't report things as they happen. He doesn't need to flat-out lie about the AEW side to make them look better and the WWE side to make them look worse. And, for the most part, I do think he does a decent job of that. But I dunno, maybe I should be madder at him?

He does need to keep himself relevant, and his latest way of doing that has been to appeal to the smarks. They're the ones that subscribe. So he tells them that AEW wins in the key demos but SmackDown is down in viewership (despite SmackDown doing better in the key demos in its slot than AEW does in its). He'll tell them that Randy Orton is a money-hungry grub and AEW was too smart to sign him, but then Tony Khan will come out on Twitter and whinge about being played. AEW can "get everyone they want." Marty Scurll re-signs with ROH. Vince McMahon is taking over NXT. Nope.

It's tough when you're reporting on what used to be such a secretive business, because a lot of the time you will be reporting hearsay and rumors from guys lower on the pecking order with an axe to grind. It would actually take a lot of discernment and talent to be able to separate the fact from the fiction there. But lately Meltzer has just been rankling me with the "AEW is winning" narrative, which is very clearly a rosy-glassed view of things.

* Their TV deal only for $45 million a year. That might be fine to have in your personal bank account, but it's chump change for a TV deal -- especially when you are going to be offering more content. When you factor in that back in 2016 it cost $880k to run your average Raw, if you multiply that by 51, you get...$44.9 million. Coincidence? Maybe. But it sounds to me a lot like the Saudi announcement WWE made when they got stranded. It was details already known, but they just came out and said it to make it sound new and like a development.

* The TV ratings "war" between these two shows is ridiculous. Nielsen themselves suggest a 10% era of margin either way on their reporting. This isn't like the Monday Night Wars when the WWF would register a 4.9 and WCW would be getting a 3.5 or whatever. These ratings are within a stone's throw from each other each week and a narrative is being painted of AEW far and away having the larger fan-base. Meanwhile WWE is still killing them with Raw and SmackDown, which should be shameful with the state those shows are reportedly in most weeks.

It's just exhausting seeing the myth reported as reality. I get that fans want AEW to do well, Meltzer among them. But it doesn't help them, nor does it help wrestling, for them to be dishonest about what it's achieved and the direction it is trending. That will just end in a further monopoly for Vince.

Just because Meltzer gets things right from time to time doesn't mean anything other than he guessed correctly.

I figured Jericho would be the first AEW champ, and it turned out I was right. That doesn't mean I have a source, it just means I figured correctly.

AEW are releasing an action figure of Chris Jericho with his bottle of wine. There is so much that is funny about that.

There is stuff that goes beyond a guess though. He knew about the plan to fuck over Goldberg in, like, June of that year. That's going back a while, but that's one that always jumps out at me. Taker vs. AJ would have been a weird guess to make only for it to come true.

He clearly gets SOMETHING out of people.

"Mommy! Mommy! Can I get this one!?"
*Mom sees a homeless-looking drunk as AEW World Champion*
"Um, probably not."

The 15-20k range is what the UK's share of AEW PPV buys have been since they started. Meltzer also doesn't think FITE is a strong enough replacement for the region at least for the time being which is how he came up with his low end estimate for the show.

If they manage to get around 100k again, then that means either their US PPV market grew or their international market managed to pick up the slack or both. That would be a pretty great sign since it means tv has grown their PPV market. If they hit that 80k range, then it means they managed to remain steady but haven't really grown yet despite the tv presence.

Don't illegally stream the show if you can afford it. It's important.

What I am saying is please buy it if you can instead of pirate.

Well, I think it's important to add if it's something you feel is worth buying. Don't go $50 out of pocket for something that is going to sour you. That's just going to dry up the well quicker and condition them to think that their job selling this stuff has been effective.

Buy it if you want to buy it. If you don't, don't.

I’m happily dropping money on this

Same

Not I, no wrestling show is worth $50 when I can watch 8 hours of there shows for free every month.

Honestly, I'm probably gonna get caught up in something and forget the PPV is on like usual. I bitch and moan big sports should be on Saturdays, not Sundays but I'm a hypocrite.

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They couldn’t pay me $50 at this point. Although upsetting people with my takeaways might make it worth it.

yawn. shut your face creature of the night 2.0

It’s already working.

I can call you a worthless shitbag twatface without being upset. It's just a fact that you're really annoying and incredibly fucking dumb.

ehh...I'd pay good money to never be compared to creature lol

do you, noid of the

I can't even remember who that is. I remember them posting here, but that's about it. I'll keep doing what I want, don't worry about that.

A more appropriate name for Noid is Captain Doofus

Someone please quote that since he has me on ignore

According to the Observer, early numbers for Revolution's PPV buys are up compared to Full Gear at least in regards to B/R Live and FITE.

B/R buys went up by around 10%. If that gain is from new B/R Live subscribers then TNT is going to be happy since that was one of their expectations for AEW.

Overall number is currently not known but probably going to still be lower than Full Gear due to UK market issues.

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:lol:

Holy ad hominems batman

I get you live in a libertarian fantasy world, but I’m slinging muck and make no bones about it, so yes, it’s an ad hominem

ijs Meltzer being right about Randy Orton winning the Rumble in 2017 won me a lot of money lol

meant to quote xrod and noid from previous page but mucked that all up, too lazy to fix. ROLL TIDE.

Not that I really *cared*, but if I had watched the Royal Rumble live and was invested, Orton winning that would have shocked the shit out of me. Felt like it came out of nowhere. I thought the pairing of Orton and Wyatt was actually pretty good. Randy finally found someone to “let him out to play” so to speak. It could have “evolved” him a bit. They should have kept it going a bit. Really rushed to the Wyatt match.

I almost feel like Matt Hardy as the Exalted One would be TOO obvious at this point. Like I could still see Matt working with AEW, possibly working in multiple promotions trying to get the Broken stuff going again, but I don't know if he's the Exalted One.

Brodie Lee/Luke Harper as the Exalted One, however, would be great. I like the unintentional backstory that he graduated from being in a cult to running his own cult.

Watching AEW Dark and Abadon is making her debut. Looks like she's right out of a horror movie.

According to the Observer, AEW's current plans for their Blood & Guts War Games style match is to delay it till their July 22nd show in Newark, New Jersey.

The match and show itself was originally planned for March 25th but that got put on hold after the venue postponed all events there for the rest of this month.

There was some speculation AEW would keep their current plans intact and run the match in an empty arena or potentially elsewhere but it makes sense to still keep it as the big attraction for their Newark show later in the year.

Double or Nothing is (partially) cancelled. Fans can get refunds or have their tickets pushed out to 2021 which will also be in Vegas.

The show is still happening in some form and will be on BR Live and PPV as usual.

Really don't want all the talent being made to fly somewhere to be under one roof. They might not be - it doesn't say the show is live so possibly people will be brought in in smaller groups to film their match and then leave. Or they'll allow talents to film close to home (like the Bucks having matches at their own ring). But even still, it will be awkward and I don't think asking people to drop $50 on an empty arena show is a great message.

Love AEW but it's absolutely fair to criticize them for still running a show, especially with WWE being criticized for the same thing.

Tbh, was wondering when people were gonna start criticizing them too....

As far as Dynamite goes at least they filmed all of their shit a few weeks ago, they taped enough content to get them through May while primarily using talent that were within driving distance in Georgia and Florida. They're not making talent travel in every week like WWE are doing.

But a lot has changed between that last round of tapings and now. Even if they were taping a month or two worth of shows, I'm against making anyone travel again anytime soon.

The best thing for AEW would be to strike up deals with promotions they're on good terms with - PWG, DDT, AAA, Gatoh Move, whoever else - about securing some archive footage to flesh out an existing program. AEW itself is too new to do much in the way of diving into the "vault", but using older footage to pad out empty arena matches, promos and vignettes wouldn't be the worst way to continue to produce TV.

Problem is, networks have paid for original content, not archive footage. AEW and WWE almost certainly get a pass for this due to the unprecedented shit going on...but they're not willing to push back.

Yeah they should just cancel or delay it since Mania proved how important having an actual crowd around is for major events, especially for something being charged regular PPV price.

Plus even though they taped enough shows till mid-May, plans for that show is still going to be a mess to pull off due to various issues.

AEW to resume tapings in Jacksonville in May 6th.

Ugh. Bad move.

Somehow, ROH have come out of all of this looking like the moral compass of professional wrestling since they’ve completely stopped taping new shows despite having a TV deal.

I'm actually going to give ROH a view or two when this all clears up because of them being responsible during this time.

I like hearing shit like this. :y:

Yeah, it would be one thing if they did another mass set of tapings and the took another 1-2 month break but seems they are going to follow WWE's new plan for tapings instead.

Besides ROH, I'd add NJPW as well since both were among the first ones to stop holding shows and stay shut down during these times.

Great little Velocity style match between Rey Fenix and Alan Angels on this week’s AEW Dark. Real good.

Apparently that Angels kid is only 22. Sign him up!

Marko Stunt wins a match with a crucifix bomb into a 450 splash

Oof. After a gem of a match last week, Rey Fenix has a bit of a botchfest tonight. Still love him.

I find it funny MGM Grand is going to have a no fans Boxing Card in Vegas in 2 weeks. I doubt AEW would have traveled just to have no fans but still

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Ordered Double or Nothing, watching The Road to D or N on TNT r/n

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My buddy isn't gonna order it so I'll prob have to watch it second hand.

Imagine ordering a Rey Fenix over Amazon, then your package arrives and it's a Joey Janela.

I heard someone say that Ricky Starks might go to AEW. I think it would be a bad idea. Because Ricky can work, talk, and women find him good looking. AEW wouldn't know what to do with him.

Ricky is not that good, my dude. He's definitely "okay," though.

Call me when they get GENOCIDE Jacob Storm

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When does Robb Banks start in this territory?

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AEW's belt designer confirmed what was mentioned on last night's broadcast of Double or Nothing was true about the TNT title not being finished in time for the show due to coronavirus issues.

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Also the finished design is meant to resemble the NWA TV title since that is where the inspiration came from.

I think the biggest issue with the belt is how plain the centre is, which this doesn’t seem to fix.

Watching Dark...Allie is wearing a tight red dress...this isn't fucking fair!

Last weekend's Double or Nothing event is currently rumored to have done around 100k PPV buys based on early estimates and reports.

Assuming that number holds, that's pretty amazing considering the circumstances both in regards to the event's build and coronavirus-related issues.

AEW Dark is great so far. :)

Janella and Kiss as a team I can buy.