Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4775284)

bunch of old wrestlers who feel compelled to do "shoot interviews" seem like the dumbest fucking people alive

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4772914)

Originally Posted by Disturbed316 (Post 4775546)

Shinsuke Nakamura absolutely has to keep his name, it's already too well known to be changed, like Samoa Joe or AJ Styles.

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4775720)

Goes on to be undefeated at Wrestlemania and surpasses the streak

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4775662)

It sounds insane to be making this criticism after years of complaining that there wasn't enough wrestling on WWE TV, but there's no reason Ambrose and Owens need to wrestle anyone every week. Looking back to the Attitude Era, if you want to take that as the "standard", does anyone remember the two minute, insignificant midcard TV matches that lead to the pay-per-view matches, or do they remember the angles? Does anyone remember any of the Val Venis matches that Kaientai got involved in, or do they just remember "choppy choppy your pee pee"?

Tyler Breeze is, to me, the biggest example of how badly they're missing the point. Breeze shouldn't be wrestling every week, but he should absolutely be on TV every week. Show vignettes of him at photoshoots or in exotic locations, get him seats at genuine fashion events and show footage of that, have him come out to the ring to unveil a new photoshoot or new line of clothing. And that's for a character with an easily represented, easy to understand gimmick ready made, but what could you do with characters without that? You flesh them out. You teach the audience who they are, what they're all about. Aside from a dumb hairdo, crazy bumps, and gear that would be befitting of a CAW version of Shawn Michaels...what is Dolph Ziggler?

The whole point of wrestling-as-entertainment is that you have all these larger than life characters interacting with one another, but where's the appeal in that if their interactions are all the same? Wrestling match after wrestling match after wrestling match every week does nothing to embrace the appeal of these characters.

Originally Posted by Exyle (Post 4775769)

Theory: It's ludicrous to think Shane McMahon has a chance against the Undertaker. Let's operate under the assumption that he's going to win. The question is how?

Finn Balor loses the NXT title to Joe at Takeover Dallas.

Balor, Gallows, and Anderson take out the Undertaker during the Hell in the Cell match for Shane to win. Shane gets Raw, and the Bullet [or Balor] Club just took out the Undertaker and have colossal momentum.

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4775796)

Originally Posted by Observer

Even with the stock market up a little today, WWE’s stock dipped 10 cents to 16.33. Traditionally, the WWE stock usually goes up around this time of year.

Originally Posted by Observer

Roman Reigns underwent "surgery" yesterday according to WWE.com. Yesterday in Tampa, Reigns had a procedure to repair a broken nose that was suffered during the brawl with HHH at the end of Raw. It's suspicious to say the least especially given the photo tweeted out by Reigns (see above). Having suffered quite a few broken noses myself, I can say with certainty, this is not a post surgery photo. Note the "filter" on the photo. If he were really trying to show the graphic nature of the surgery, he would not have blurred the image. Also, I can't imagine a doctor or nurse just simply cramming gauze up his nose and doing a rather shoddy tape job. Note his eyes looking relatively normal. Most people would come out of this surgery with two massive black eyes. This is not to say that Reigns did not suffer some type of injury, and that perhaps this "surgery" was merely a ringside physician attempting to quickly reduce the injury. I showed this photo to a few doctors and they agreed that it was sketchy looking. But hey, it's pro wrestling.

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 4775854)

Is that Paige?

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4775662)

It sounds insane to be making this criticism after years of complaining that there wasn't enough wrestling on WWE TV, but there's no reason Ambrose and Owens need to wrestle anyone every week. Looking back to the Attitude Era, if you want to take that as the "standard", does anyone remember the two minute, insignificant midcard TV matches that lead to the pay-per-view matches, or do they remember the angles? Does anyone remember any of the Val Venis matches that Kaientai got involved in, or do they just remember "choppy choppy your pee pee"?

Tyler Breeze is, to me, the biggest example of how badly they're missing the point. Breeze shouldn't be wrestling every week, but he should absolutely be on TV every week. Show vignettes of him at photoshoots or in exotic locations, get him seats at genuine fashion events and show footage of that, have him come out to the ring to unveil a new photoshoot or new line of clothing. And that's for a character with an easily represented, easy to understand gimmick ready made, but what could you do with characters without that? You flesh them out. You teach the audience who they are, what they're all about. Aside from a dumb hairdo, crazy bumps, and gear that would be befitting of a CAW version of Shawn Michaels...what is Dolph Ziggler?

The whole point of wrestling-as-entertainment is that you have all these larger than life characters interacting with one another, but where's the appeal in that if their interactions are all the same? Wrestling match after wrestling match after wrestling match every week does nothing to
embrace the appeal of these characters.

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4775872)

I had to do 2x take causeit looks like the girl i work with.

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4775901)

Ask her out.

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4775910)

No can do

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4775917)

Married?

Originally Posted by screech (Post 4775951)

I do miss videos and stuff that showed guys' characters. Like the Dashing Grooming Tips or Eddie and Chavo hijinks. Added more to the show, no matter how cheesy they could be.

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4775851)

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4775977)

No he is already dating.

Originally Posted by Heisenberg (Post 4775978)

It worked wonders for Razor Ramon, Lex Luger and Mr. Perfect. I still remember those character builds. Kalisto has no gimmick whatsoever and is holding a Championship. Absolutely no RAW coverage of his backstory. If there was one they hid it well

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4776003)

I wouldn't even consider that conversing at this point

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4775952)

Little touches like "Tyler Breeze has entered the building..." could go so far to establishing a persona for him.

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4776095)

You mean AJ Styles and Chris Jericho fighting twice on TV before the PPV didn't make you really eager to order the PPV or join the network?

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 4776112)

Why would you complain about this match, either on free tv or PPV? It's going to be different and awesome each time.

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4776140)

The handling of Breeze is mind-boggling. He's the type of character that should have had 6 weeks of vignettes building the character up. Instead he debuted out of the blue on SmackDown! of all places.

He should have a minder, or security team, or a full blown entourage with an over-worked, under-appreciated PA, make up artist, personal stylist, etc. add on the "Tyler Breeze has entered the building" (or do a dual-screen with his posse shown arriving).

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4776141)

Not complaining about the matches but the first 1-on-1 match between the 2 guys should have happened on the PPV not free TV.

Promotion 101, come on guys.

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4776095)

You mean AJ Styles and Chris Jericho fighting twice on TV before the PPV didn't make you really eager to order the PPV or join the network?

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4776140)

The handling of Breeze is mind-boggling. He's the type of character that should have had 6 weeks of vignettes building the character up. Instead he debuted out of the blue on SmackDown! of all places.

He should have a minder, or security team, or a full blown entourage with an over-worked, under-appreciated PA, make up artist, personal stylist, etc. add on the "Tyler Breeze has entered the building" (or do a dual-screen with his posse shown arriving).

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4776095)

You mean AJ Styles and Chris Jericho fighting twice on TV before the PPV didn't make you really eager to order the PPV or join the network?

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4776223)

Except people more or less know who both Jericho and Styles are. It was basically an intro to Styles for the 2 or 3 who didn't.

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4776202)

The King of the IWC ladies and gentlemen

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4776220)

It's like that perfect 10 guy. His gimmick would get over for a minute in WWE. But long term it will run is course, and he has to be able to get something else over.

It reminds me a lot of how some people thought guys like Sandow and Fandago were not pushed enough. Reality was they were comedy guys or guys who could play one note. You don't want those guys in the orchestra.

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4776218)

Remember when Fandango had his own entrance stage and a giant light-brite of himself as part of his entrance? I had kind of forgotten about it.

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4776206)

Just as an example, Neville seems to be more talented, but even he's barely kept his spot, mainly due to lack of charisma.

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4776206)

Just as an example, Neville seems to be more talented, but even he's barely kept his spot, mainly due to lack of charisma.

I agree that Breeze could have been introduced better, but seeing his work makes me think he was never going anywhere.

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4776236)

Giving him that gimmick in the first place sabotaged his chance to succeed

Originally Posted by Poit (Post 4776237)

Neville seemed plenty charismatic in backstage segments on NXT. Especially in segments with Breeze. He's just, y'know, never in any of those anymore.

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4776253)

:lol: at both

WWE giving Neville nothing important to do nor a Kofi-like role as the big high flyer is why he's having trouble staying relevant.

WWE has completely botched using Breeze since his call-up. While his current gimmick does have its limits, the WWE has done nothing to help him get over or be relevant.

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4776273)

Y'all really need to stop having serious interactions with CyNick. The dude is clearly just a troll and is feeding off of all the attention he gets here.

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4776268)

Yeah well its definitely limiting.

But at the same time, if the talent was good enough, he would have got over without the gimmick. He's another in a long list of average guys.

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4776292)

If we keeping feeding CyNick he will be strong enough to absorb Android 17 :-\

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 4776155)

I do understand that logic but it's a logic that WWE has broken away from. For better or worse. I don't mind, it made that debut Raw for AJ an awesome experience. And the story told was two out of three falls, which could have culminated at Wrestlemania but clearly they have another plan.

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4776293)

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If you didn't find this Johnny Curtis entertaining, then you're a moron who should strongly consider suicide.

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4776271)

He's had chances to talk. He looks like a deer in the headlights. NXT is a different animal. Everything is pre taped and re taped, so your promos look better. When you get to RAW you need to be able to swim in the deep end. He can't.

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4776308)

CyNick isn't a human.

This segment made me miss all the performers involved. Curtis & Maxine could have been a great power couple act. Triple H vs. Johnny Curtis at WrestleMania one year, with Stephanie McMahon and Maxine in their respective corners could have been huge. The old power couple versus the new one. Both Triple H and Curtis were trained by Killer Kowalski too. A lot of parallels they could have exploited there.

Maxine was so fucking hot and Matt Striker was such a gem that could have been utilized a whole lot better. Get Alicia Fox out of the ring and use her as a bitchy manager for someone.