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SlickyTrickyDamon 02-20-2016 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4772846)
http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehis...rldheavyweight

Steve Austin or Macho Man Randy Savage were never World Heavyweight Champions :nono:

<img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-__7AybEkPyc/USWbVp3_r0I/AAAAAAAAHdI/EwLSgOINBz4/s1600/WINGED+EAGLE+WWE+TITLE+EWSY.jpg" class="mainImage" data-bm="12">

Can you read?

weather vane 02-20-2016 03:59 AM

Hey remember when Koko B Ware came out as the Blue Blazer? I cannot find a picture or video of that. It did happen though... Right?

weather vane 02-20-2016 04:02 AM

@ me with answers boys

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-20-2016 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 4773096)
Hey remember when Koko B Ware came out as the Blue Blazer? I cannot find a picture or video of that. It did happen though... Right?

Yes.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-20-2016 04:18 AM

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x20...9-part-2_sport

The CyNick 02-20-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4773005)
Former WWE writer and widely accepted genius, Andrew Goldstein, recently wrote a piece for the PWTorch where he talked about why wrestling never cracks it into the "cool." Most telling of this man's brilliance is that he points out Fandango getting over a massively missed opportunity.

I didn't read the article, because it sounds like a waste of time.

But is this guy's assertion that Fandango wad "cool"? I would argue Fandango represents everything that makes wrestling seem uncool.

SNLfunnyguy 02-20-2016 12:39 PM

Goooollldddbbbeeerrrrg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w5cpp3FwTE

Damian Rey 2.0 02-20-2016 01:43 PM

Met Goldberg at a hot rod show in San Diego. Really cool guy. Had a nice little conversation with him and my dad about vintage hot rods before getting a picture.

GD 02-20-2016 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4772846)
http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehis...rldheavyweight

Steve Austin or Macho Man Randy Savage were never World Heavyweight Champions :nono:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4773087)
<img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-__7AybEkPyc/USWbVp3_r0I/AAAAAAAAHdI/EwLSgOINBz4/s1600/WINGED+EAGLE+WWE+TITLE+EWSY.jpg" class="mainImage" data-bm="12">

Can you read?

Sweetheart, the page redirects to the big gold belt. I see that you've been assuming a lot of things as of late.

Emperor Smeat 02-20-2016 03:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX">@KennyOmegamanX</a> calls out <a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWoodsPhD">@XavierWoodsPhD</a> live on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJPW?src=hash">#NJPW</a> PPV! <a href="https://t.co/yQaIPp9q4j">pic.twitter.com/yQaIPp9q4j</a></p>&mdash; LARIATOOOOO!!! (@SenorLARIATO) <a href="https://twitter.com/SenorLARIATO/status/701005278628724737">February 20, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Shadrick 02-20-2016 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4773136)
I didn't read the article, because it sounds like a waste of time.

But is this guy's assertion that Fandango wad "cool"? I would argue Fandango represents everything that makes wrestling seem uncool.

lol man

Volare 02-20-2016 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4773166)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX">@KennyOmegamanX</a> calls out <a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWoodsPhD">@XavierWoodsPhD</a> live on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJPW?src=hash">#NJPW</a> PPV! <a href="https://t.co/yQaIPp9q4j">pic.twitter.com/yQaIPp9q4j</a></p>&mdash; LARIATOOOOO!!! (@SenorLARIATO) <a href="https://twitter.com/SenorLARIATO/status/701005278628724737">February 20, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Oh god the awesome things that would happen.

Mr. Nerfect 02-20-2016 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4773136)
I didn't read the article, because it sounds like a waste of time.

But is this guy's assertion that Fandango wad "cool"? I would argue Fandango represents everything that makes wrestling seem uncool.

Yeah, reading stuff from people who actually worked for the company is a waste of time because it would ruin your bubble. Moron.

Evil Vito 02-20-2016 09:58 PM

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Wonder which one of these people is CyNick

Evil Vito 02-20-2016 10:01 PM

Bet like 80% of those people aren't even with the company anymore, actually. I saw Gaburick in there.

Mr. Nerfect 02-20-2016 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4773136)
I didn't read the article, because it sounds like a waste of time.

But is this guy's assertion that Fandango wad "cool"? I would argue Fandango represents everything that makes wrestling seem uncool.

Fandango was presented by the WWE in a way that was uncool, you fucking moron. God, could you be any dumber? Losing my patience with this gimmick.

Lock Jaw 02-21-2016 12:29 AM

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4b&oe=5767CA2A

Lock Jaw 02-21-2016 12:32 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMspppVAAAEDzf.jpg:medium

Lock Jaw 02-21-2016 12:41 AM

Would make a good sitcom

Powerful/strong/macho/COO of global entertainment company trying to balance that with living in a house full of girls

Emperor Smeat 02-21-2016 01:39 AM

Apparently modern era NXT had a pilot episode that's never been shown. The code name for that episode was "Project H" and went through several revisions before actual tapings.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another gem. Before there was &quot;NXT&quot; - a secret pilot was taped at &quot;Full Sail&quot;. Dream dubbed it &quot;Project H&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/1stdraft?src=hash">#1stdraft</a> <a href="https://t.co/jqJOr8nRLr">pic.twitter.com/jqJOr8nRLr</a></p>&mdash; Rob Naylor (@NINaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/NINaylor/status/701164768455954435">February 20, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Volare 02-21-2016 10:17 AM

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NEW NEVER OPEN WEIGHT 6 MAN CHAMPIONS!!!!......and a challenge!!

Volare 02-21-2016 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4773376)

So.....who will be the first champion of the 3....and by that I mean World Champion not Divas.

Evil Vito 02-21-2016 02:18 PM

https://streamable.com/19jq

Emperor Smeat 02-21-2016 02:28 PM

http://45.media.tumblr.com/e68b30731...mb1yo5_400.gif

owenbrown 02-21-2016 02:47 PM

I thought that was Hogan for a second there :wtf:

James Steele 02-21-2016 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4773379)
Would make a good sitcom

Powerful/strong/macho/COO of global entertainment company trying to balance that with living in a house full of girls

I'd watch it. Too bad "King of Queens" has already been used.

Droford 02-21-2016 04:32 PM

Last Man Standing with Tim Allen better example

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-21-2016 04:42 PM

King of Queens is a show people actually liked.

Lock Jaw 02-21-2016 04:43 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbtuUMJWwAA7cJF.png

Finn Bayley

The CyNick 02-21-2016 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4773274)
Yeah, reading stuff from people who actually worked for the company is a waste of time because it would ruin your bubble. Moron.

If you told me Vince, Hunter or Kevin Dunn wrote something, I would be interested. Some guy who got coffee for Vince, meh I'll pass.

And especially if the point of the article is Fandango is cool. Makes me think waste of time. But could also be you're just terrible at promoting something.

The CyNick 02-21-2016 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4773356)
Fandango was presented by the WWE in a way that was uncool, you fucking moron. God, could you be any dumber? Losing my patience with this gimmick.

His gimmick was a joke. You get that right?

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-21-2016 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4773158)
Sweetheart, the page redirects to the big gold belt. I see that you've been assuming a lot of things as of late.

Macho man is a 3-time Big Gold Belt haver.

GD 02-21-2016 06:30 PM

WWE's iteration of the World Heavyweight Championship, you adorable goof. Macho Man held the WCW Championship.

Droford 02-21-2016 06:40 PM

https://giant.gfycat.com/GregariousDistantDonkey.gif

Volare 02-21-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4773559)

Holy christ he did it. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Volare 02-21-2016 06:46 PM

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Emperor Smeat 02-21-2016 07:32 PM

Apparently the reason Damien Sandow sort of disappeared from WWE shows is due to him taking a break away from wrestling to deal with some family issues.

http://i.picpar.com/x4Ib.png

Impact! 02-22-2016 03:23 AM

Still kind of surprised that the WWE didn't rename AJ Styles BJ Skills

GD 02-22-2016 09:51 AM

Or Eden Stiles' long lost brother, Ajay Stiles.

Exyle 02-22-2016 12:05 PM

Part of me really wants to see everything move forward as expected. Roman beats Triple H clean in the main event of Wrestlemania, no swerve or heel turn, and the crowd absolutely boos the shit out of it. Maybe 100,000 people categorically rejecting Vince McMahon's Roman Reigns project will make him realize what a failure it really is.

drave 02-22-2016 12:07 PM

Vince won't realize it because in his mind, Roman is perfect. It quite literally will not fail because VKM won't let it. And you can believe that.

Emperor Smeat 02-22-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exyle (Post 4774268)
Part of me really wants to see everything move forward as expected. Roman beats Triple H clean in the main event of Wrestlemania, no swerve or heel turn, and the crowd absolutely boos the shit out of it. Maybe 100,000 people categorically rejecting Vince McMahon's Roman Reigns project will make him realize what a failure it really is.

WWE would probably just go overboard with the music and celebrations or turn down the crowd mics once Reigns wins. Make it seem like the crowd's hatred is not as big as it really is.

Reigns has the same problem Ryback had in that the WWE didn't really care about letting him devlop gradually and just skipped the real midcard building needed for both guys.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-22-2016 12:39 PM

Vince won't change anything because he doesn't have to. He's going to make piles of money regardless if he pushes talent that's actually universally over or not. It the ten year Cena run tells us anything, especially the initial run where the attitude era fans turned on him in droves and the company transitioned to more family friendly, it's that Vince is a man of conviction and he's not going to change what he wants until presented a valid reason, like getting beat in ratings and losing top talent.

Seeing as that's not gonna happen, it's more likely that things change when Vince let's go, which is probably another 20 years away, when he passes.

Evil Vito 02-22-2016 12:44 PM

Maybe they will add some sort of stipulation like The Authority must step down if Triple H loses (but for REALSIES this time) just to try to raise some sort of doubt that Reigns will win.

In that scenario though you're still likely to get a clean Reigns win followed by the face locker room emptying and hoisting the triumphant Reigns on their shoulders while the announcers gush about it and confetti falls from the ceiling...yet the crowd will STILL boo.

drave 02-22-2016 01:33 PM

First ever REALSIES match :D

Now I wanna hear a promo from both of them talking about their "realisies match"

Jordan 02-22-2016 01:45 PM

I wanted to make a thread about this but there isn't much more to say than...

I AM SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR NAKAMAURA
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Jordan 02-22-2016 01:47 PM

Will he get AJ Stlyes treatment and get to keep his name?

Kana was renamed to Auska which I think was an improvement. Hideo Itami is not really as cool as KENTA but it's not bad either. I think he might get to keep his name considering all the publication of the signing.

Jordan 02-22-2016 01:49 PM

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Best AJ promo since his debut.

Emperor Smeat 02-22-2016 03:31 PM

https://instagram.forf1-2.fna.fbcdn....MjI2Ng%3D%3D.2

Rammsteinmad 02-22-2016 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4774271)
Reigns has the same problem Ryback had in that the WWE didn't really care about letting him devlop gradually and just skipped the real midcard building needed for both guys.

I actually dug that about Ryback.

The problem then, was that once he was at "that level", they fucked up, didn't know what to do with him and made him a jobber/heel.

In fact, Ryback going from squash matches/mid-card matches to suddenly going after CM Punk was quite exciting. Gave a legit vibe that anything could happen in WWE.

Shadrick 02-22-2016 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4774422)
I actually dug that about Ryback.

The problem then, was that once he was at "that level", they fucked up, didn't know what to do with him and made him a jobber/heel.

In fact, Ryback going from squash matches/mid-card matches to suddenly going after CM Punk was quite exciting. Gave a legit vibe that anything could happen in WWE.

When Punk turned around and Ryback was standing there, I marked a little. "Finally, something different" and then...meh.

Shadrick 02-22-2016 05:14 PM

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Emperor Smeat 02-22-2016 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4774422)
I actually dug that about Ryback.

The problem then, was that once he was at "that level", they fucked up, didn't know what to do with him and made him a jobber/heel.

In fact, Ryback going from squash matches/mid-card matches to suddenly going after CM Punk was quite exciting. Gave a legit vibe that anything could happen in WWE.

Another problem was after a while it became obvious he was just filling in for Cena and not actually get a real promotion or main event push. Lost a lot of momentum once the Punk feud ended and then whatever was left after the Mania loss to Henry and feud loss to Cena.

Ziggler was similar in the sense that his huge win in Survivor Series 2014 led to nothing since he was only filling in for Reigns and was never planned to get a real rub or push from it.

Shadrick 02-22-2016 05:41 PM

MAJOR Raw Spoiler if it's indeed true.

SPOILER: show
FalconArrow on Reddit said that RAW tonight is going to be worth watching from beginning to end. Said we "Might be getting an early Christmas gift." Current speculation online is that CM Punk is coming back tonight because his bio has been re-added to WWE.com and a couple of days ago Cena uploaded CM Punks longtime twitter avy to his instagram

Wishbone 02-22-2016 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4774454)
MAJOR Raw Spoiler if it's indeed true.

SPOILER: show
FalconArrow on Reddit said that RAW tonight is going to be worth watching from beginning to end. Said we "Might be getting an early Christmas gift." Current speculation online is that CM Punk is coming back tonight because his bio has been re-added to WWE.com and a couple of days ago Cena uploaded CM Punks longtime twitter avy to his instagram

Lol if that actually happens I'll eat my hat. Whoever is claiming that is either a moron, or they work for WWE and are trying to bump the ratings.

The CyNick 02-22-2016 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4774269)
Vince won't realize it because in his mind, Roman is perfect. It quite literally will not fail because VKM won't let it. And you can believe that.

I read a lot of reports of house shows and comments of shows on twitter, and almost every show i read "reigns got the biggest pop of the night". I think there is a disconnect between fans online who just watch the tv and complain vs the paying fans.

weather vane 02-22-2016 05:53 PM

Why don't you ever hear it on TV or PPV's?

The CyNick 02-22-2016 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4774443)
Another problem was after a while it became obvious he was just filling in for Cena and not actually get a real promotion or main event push. Lost a lot of momentum once the Punk feud ended and then whatever was left after the Mania loss to Henry and feud loss to Cena.

Ziggler was similar in the sense that his huge win in Survivor Series 2014 led to nothing since he was only filling in for Reigns and was never planned to get a real rub or push from it.

Some guys hit their ceiling faster than expected.

I like Ryback from what I've seen of him in shoot interviews. I just don't think he's capable of being THE GUY.

The CyNick 02-22-2016 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 4774464)
Why don't you ever hear it on TV or PPV's?

You do. He always gets a big pop. You just have the 15% of the crowd that are loud and are there to be against whatever the machine is pushing.

He'll end up like Cena. Not everyone will be for him, but he'll get a reaction.

Put it this way. I would rather Roman get the reaction he got during his match than the reaction AJ Styles got during his match.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-22-2016 05:57 PM

Actual Raw spoiler

SPOILER: show
Speculation online is that with Bailey pictures above in a Macho Man shirt, Vince has found a way to raise the dead and Savage will return tonight on Raw.

Shadrick 02-22-2016 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4774456)
Lol if that actually happens I'll eat my hat. Whoever is claiming that is either a moron, or they work for WWE and are trying to bump the ratings.

great chance its the latter.

Evil Vito 02-22-2016 05:59 PM

I'll be watching Deadpool, so I'll have to check the "big surprise" after.

Shadrick 02-22-2016 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4774460)
I read a lot of reports of house shows and comments of shows on twitter, and almost every show i read "reigns got the biggest pop of the night". I think there is a disconnect between fans online who just watch the tv and complain vs the paying fans.

Just so I'm clear, you believe what you read online that someone else said, right? That's okay to do, right?

Shadrick 02-22-2016 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4774470)
I'll be watching Deadpool, so I'll have to check the "big surprise" after.

movie was awesome. so many easter eggs. its hard to keep track of them all.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-22-2016 06:05 PM

Either way it might work. Question wtf would they have planned that's anymore interesting than what was going on two years ago.

The CyNick 02-22-2016 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4774471)
Just so I'm clear, you believe what you read online that someone else said, right? That's okay to do, right?

Shades of grey.

Wishbone 02-22-2016 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4774495)
Only the stuff that confirms my own idiotic beliefs.

There I fixed that for you, buddy. :y:

The CyNick 02-22-2016 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4774498)
There I fixed that for you, buddy. :y:

You think it's idiotic that Reigns gets massive pops at house shows?

How many shows have you been to where he gets no reaction?

Emperor Smeat 02-22-2016 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4774454)
MAJOR Raw Spoiler if it's indeed true.

SPOILER: show
FalconArrow on Reddit said that RAW tonight is going to be worth watching from beginning to end. Said we "Might be getting an early Christmas gift." Current speculation online is that CM Punk is coming back tonight because his bio has been re-added to WWE.com and a couple of days ago Cena uploaded CM Punks longtime twitter avy to his instagram

From the Observer about when this supposed surprise is meant to happen. The original source on SquaredCircle hinted it was occurring at the end of the show.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
I don't know what it is, but was told it's "not at the end, up front," so I'm thinking first segment.

The source at SquaredCircle also confirmed whatever the plan was, it got changed to happen sooner in the show.

Droford 02-22-2016 07:03 PM

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Wishbone 02-22-2016 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4774501)
Herp derp I believe everything I hear on twitter so long as it agrees with what I believe. I also :heart: Vince McMahon's muscular, leather couch of a body more than anything in the world and will do anything to get him to notice me.

There ya go fixed it again! You're welcome, buddy. :)

Volare 02-22-2016 11:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These rumors about <a href="https://twitter.com/WadeBarrett">@WadeBarrett</a>'s imminent departure are odd. I haven't noticed him on our programming since 2014.</p>&mdash; ShinigamE (@WWEBigE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBigE/status/701919406733963264">February 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Started reading the New Day news paper that released the other day in the UK and saw this! <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/FrlfEATyXi">pic.twitter.com/FrlfEATyXi</a></p>&mdash; Xavier Woods (@XavierWoodsPhD) <a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWoodsPhD/status/701918843355197440">February 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whoa, so this &quot;looking stupid&quot; thing has kinda been a thing???�� <a href="https://t.co/lBbwtC7TxS">pic.twitter.com/lBbwtC7TxS</a></p>&mdash; Kofi Kingston (@TrueKofi) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrueKofi/status/701919991684276224">February 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Savio 02-23-2016 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4774438)
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I was there :)

Damian Rey 2.0 02-23-2016 01:17 AM

Just love heel CM Punk.

drave 02-23-2016 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4774460)
I read a lot of reports of house shows and comments of shows on twitter, and almost every show i read "reigns got the biggest pop of the night". I think there is a disconnect between fans online who just watch the tv and complain vs the paying fans.

I'll entertain you because this place needs the entertainment.

So the "IWC" or "Twitter Machine" or "Online Reports" (from HHH, or VKM Only of course) are okay when they serve your point, mkay ;)

I am (was until a few months ago) a paying fan. I have been to every show that has been in Indy since 92 when I went to WM VII. The product has grown stale for me. It has grown stale because the past 10 years the same formula has been in play with Cena and it is boring to watch, for me.

After seeing the build with Reigns, it is clear that the WWE Universe is in for more of the same. Even taking the kayfabe chest protector out of the equation, Reigns just bounced up at the end of the match as if he hadn't even been in a match. LOLCENAWINS will soon be LOLROMANWINS.

Sure he will garner a reaction, much like that of Cena. For me, personally, I don't want to pay $$$ to see that anymore. I cancelled my network sub yesterday and Shane//Taker isn't good enough to get me to renew.

Gotta love those rights fees that are exploding because of the immense reaction Reigns gets at house shows. WOOOOO!! :shifty:

The CyNick 02-23-2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4775057)
I'll entertain you because this place needs the entertainment.

So the "IWC" or "Twitter Machine" or "Online Reports" (from HHH, or VKM Only of course) are okay when they serve your point, mkay ;)

I am (was until a few months ago) a paying fan. I have been to every show that has been in Indy since 92 when I went to WM VII. The product has grown stale for me. It has grown stale because the past 10 years the same formula has been in play with Cena and it is boring to watch, for me.

After seeing the build with Reigns, it is clear that the WWE Universe is in for more of the same. Even taking the kayfabe chest protector out of the equation, Reigns just bounced up at the end of the match as if he hadn't even been in a match. LOLCENAWINS will soon be LOLROMANWINS.

Sure he will garner a reaction, much like that of Cena. For me, personally, I don't want to pay $$$ to see that anymore. I cancelled my network sub yesterday and Shane//Taker isn't good enough to get me to renew.

Gotta love those rights fees that are exploding because of the immense reaction Reigns gets at house shows. WOOOOO!! :shifty:

So at the end of the day you feel WWE should cater to you over the thousands of people in attendance who are repeat customers. And you awknowledge Roman is getting massive pops at arenas. So why would they stop pushing him? When an audience is dead silent for his matches, then you move on. When crowds dwindle then you move on. Neither has happened. And that's without a true passing of the torch program between Reigns and Cena.

They had another huge crowd for RAW last night. Going to have somewhere close to 100k at Mania. The fans were going absolutely crazy for the closing angle. I can't imagine people there saying they didn't enjoy themselves.

If you don't think all the cool WWE programming on the Network is worth $10 a month, that's great, you made the right call. Lots more people like me still enjoy the product. So who should WWE cater to? Me or you? If enough business metrics are heading south, then you will see changes. But right now, the majority of metrics are improving. So why would they change course?

Big Vic 02-23-2016 11:43 AM

From what I heard the fans were cheering HHH beating Roman Reigns?

Drave is not the only one who stopped watching, many people have, check the ratings.

drave 02-23-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4775151)
So at the end of the day you feel WWE should cater to you over the thousands of people in attendance who are repeat customers. And you awknowledge Roman is getting massive pops at arenas. So why would they stop pushing him? When an audience is dead silent for his matches, then you move on. When crowds dwindle then you move on. Neither has happened. And that's without a true passing of the torch program between Reigns and Cena.

They had another huge crowd for RAW last night. Going to have somewhere close to 100k at Mania. The fans were going absolutely crazy for the closing angle. I can't imagine people there saying they didn't enjoy themselves.

If you don't think all the cool WWE programming on the Network is worth $10 a month, that's great, you made the right call. Lots more people like me still enjoy the product. So who should WWE cater to? Me or you? If enough business metrics are heading south, then you will see changes. But right now, the majority of metrics are improving. So why would they change course?

I never said they should cater to ME, that would be silly. I just said what they put out no longer interests me. I also believe it would be in their best interests to "take a chance" now and again instead of churning out the same shit on a different day/week/month. A passing of the torch isn't needed, any viewer can see the stark similarities without trying.

I also don't acknowledge Reigns getting massive pops. Ambrose easily gets bigger pops consistently. He gets pops, not massive, and they are LARGELY mixed (hence the Cena reference). I also never said they should stop pushing him, just that it is the same ole formula and boring as fuck.

They can have huge crowds any given night, especially following a PPV. You think the place went nuts because Reigns was getting over or because HHH came off as a fucking badass and more people want to see THAT level of aggression? Surely you are joking if you believe people were cheering for Reigns (unless you REALLY wanna be tongue-in-cheek saying the cheers for him getting his ass beat are cheers regardless) :|

Mania will always sell itself based on name alone, period.

The backlog of content is great, no doubt. It also servers as a reminder that they could do much better if they actually tried harder. When they had competition, they were much better, out of necessity to defeat competition.



TL;DR

They can do what they want (and will regardless). It isn't for me as I don't get any "entertainment" from it anymore and therefore will no longer support them as a business. If they change their game in the future, I'll reconsider.

You also like to spin things and are inconsistent with your "arguments".

slik 02-23-2016 12:00 PM

WrestleMania this year has an early 2000's feel to it. WMX7, WMX8, WMXIX - all fantastic WrestleManias.

Shane/Undertaker will be Taker's most entertaining match in years. It will be like Undertaker/Flair at WrestleMania was - except Shane is more agile and takes bumps.

Evil Vito 02-23-2016 01:19 PM

I have my doubts that a 46 year old Shane McMahon who hasn't wrestled in 6 years and has three kids is going to be taking all that many bumps.

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Volare 02-23-2016 02:39 PM

Figured he would've done one of these a while ago....

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Emperor Smeat 02-23-2016 02:43 PM

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road doggy dogg 02-23-2016 02:52 PM

bunch of old wrestlers who feel compelled to do "shoot interviews" seem like the dumbest fucking people alive

Shadrick 02-23-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4775162)
From what I heard the fans were cheering HHH beating Roman Reigns?

Drave is not the only one who stopped watching, many people have, check the ratings.

cynick will ignore it.

Bad News Gertner 02-23-2016 05:51 PM

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Ruien 02-23-2016 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 4775057)
I'll entertain you because this place needs the entertainment.

So the "IWC" or "Twitter Machine" or "Online Reports" (from HHH, or VKM Only of course) are okay when they serve your point, mkay ;)

I am (was until a few months ago) a paying fan. I have been to every show that has been in Indy since 92 when I went to WM VII. The product has grown stale for me. It has grown stale because the past 10 years the same formula has been in play with Cena and it is boring to watch, for me.

After seeing the build with Reigns, it is clear that the WWE Universe is in for more of the same. Even taking the kayfabe chest protector out of the equation, Reigns just bounced up at the end of the match as if he hadn't even been in a match. LOLCENAWINS will soon be LOLROMANWINS.

Sure he will garner a reaction, much like that of Cena. For me, personally, I don't want to pay $$$ to see that anymore. I cancelled my network sub yesterday and Shane//Taker isn't good enough to get me to renew.

Gotta love those rights fees that are exploding because of the immense reaction Reigns gets at house shows. WOOOOO!! :shifty:

It will still be Kurt vs Taker. No idea how but it will be.

Savio 02-23-2016 07:07 PM

It would make sense if Undertaker came out on monday and told vince "No". being that Vince is a face n all.

"I won't fight for you, I will fight for Shane"

Sepholio 02-23-2016 07:13 PM

Taker refusing to do Vince's dirty work would be an interesting spin on this.

I just hate to think this could be Takers last match. The only good thing is that he will prob be the one carrying the match and it will make him look better in a sense. That's obviously in contrast to the last few years where he has to get carried by his opponent and usually looks pretty rough in the process.

But yea, I could see Taker refusing and then Vince forcing him to do the match with the added stipulation that if Taker doesn't win he is forced to retire. That would be Vince's insurance to make sure Taker fights for real and doesn't just let Shane win.

Lock Jaw 02-23-2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4775391)
It will still be Kurt vs Taker. No idea how but it will be.

Kurt wins and then we build up to next year Kurt vs. Brock at Mania as "the only two to defeat The Undertaker at Wrestlemania"

GD 02-23-2016 07:42 PM

Did Nattie lose weight?

Mr. Nerfect 02-23-2016 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4773562)
If you told me Vince, Hunter or Kevin Dunn wrote something, I would be interested. Some guy who got coffee for Vince, meh I'll pass.

And especially if the point of the article is Fandango is cool. Makes me think waste of time. But could also be you're just terrible at promoting something.

Lol. You're a joke.

Mr. Nerfect 02-23-2016 07:44 PM

EDIT: I'm not longer going to interact with CyNick. It's funny, but feeding the trolls.

harmsway 02-23-2016 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4773558)
King of Queens is a show people actually liked.

Nobody liked that shit

Shisen Kopf 02-23-2016 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by slik (Post 4775179)
WrestleMania this year has an early 2000's feel to it. WMX7, WMX8, WMXIX - all fantastic WrestleManias.

Shane/Undertaker will be Taker's most entertaining match in years. It will be like Undertaker/Flair at WrestleMania was - except Shane is more agile and takes bumps.

Guess who was at WMX8?

Blue Demon 02-23-2016 09:24 PM

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Emperor Smeat 02-23-2016 09:36 PM

Dirtsheets sponsored by The Invisible Man:
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Quote:

Monday’s 2/22 episode of WWE RAW drew 3.884 million viewers, up from last week’s 3.46 million.

The show featured fallout from WWE Fastlane, the surprise return of Shane McMahon and several major developments for Wrestlemania 32. Here’s the hourly breakdown, courtesy of ShowbuzzDaily.com:

Hour 1: 4.201 million
Hour 2: 4.055 million
Hour 3: 3.396 million
Around 423k more viewers than last week but the 3rd hour had a drop of around 800k. In terms of historical stuff, same week last year had around 240k more viewers. In terms of more historical stuff, it took until June of last year before one of the hours went under 3.5 million while its happened 4 times this year so far.

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WWE shook things up in a big way on Monday night with the surprise return of Shane McMahon. After a memorable confrontation with Vince and Stephanie McMahon, it was announced that Shane will face The Undertaker at WrestleMania 32 inside Hell in a Cell. If Shane wins, he gets control of WWE. If The Undertaker wins, Vince’s debt to Shane for bailing him out several years ago is forgiven.

Shane vs. Undertaker HIAC is one of those ‘wildcard’ matches that nobody saw coming but one that will add some much needed interest and star power to a card plagued by injuries. Here’s the latest on how this deal came together, courtesy of Dave Meltzer at f4wonline.com:

Longtime fans know this “WrestleMania match for control of WWE” has been talked about for years now. Originally it would have been Triple H representing the Authority against a surrogate of Vince McMahon’s, either The Rock of Steve Austin. The plan had been nixed in the past because Vince didn’t want to be on TV.

The deal between Vince and Shane was brokered just a few weeks ago. Shane currently does not have any management position in the company and is solely an on-air talent at this time. Even though he still has a major role with You On Demand (Chinese media company), he’s Shane is based out of New York and could theoretically be at television each week.

Shane’s promo was very much based on real circumstances within the McMahon family. There was a time that Shane legitimately felt he was in line to take over WWE but Vince ultimately made it very clear that Stephanie and Triple H would be running the company, which is a big part of what led to his departure.

Meltzer also noted cryptically that there’s something behind the fact that Triple H was not part of that opening segment.
Supposedly the Observer implied the Shane vs Vince storyline had been something the WWE wanted to do going as far back as the Road to Mania 30. Also supposedly a big reason why the real life split happened was due to Vince favoring Stephanie to be in control of Creative back in the day and refusing to split the company between Shane (business side) and Stephanie (Creative side).

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In a further update to the shocking events of last night, Dave Metlzer of Wrestling Observer Radio reports the storyline was originally supposed to take place two years ago with Triple H vs. an opponent of Vince McMahon's choosing, which would have ultimately been Steve Austin or The Rock. The match would have been for power and control of WWE but Vince nixed plans for the storyline because he wasn't keen on being on television at the time. The major storyline leading into that WrestleMania ended up being The Authority vs. Daniel Bryan, who went on to win the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.
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Originally Posted by PWI
WWE has indeed changed their PPV schedule.

WWE Payback, initially set for 5/22, will now take place on 5/1. We have not confirmed the city or venue as of this writing.

WWE Extreme Rules has been pushed back from late April to 5/22 in Newark, NJ..

Some recent changes the WWE made to their ppv schedule this year.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Ring of Honor announced today that the way they are handling Friday's TV title situation is doing a three-way match with new champion Tomohiro Ishii facing the original two wrestlers who were scheduled to battle, former champion Roderick Strong and Bobby Fish ...

There was question as to whether Ishii vs. Hirooki Goto, originally scheduled on the card, would become the title mach, or if Ishii would face Strong, since an angle on the Saturday night show at Korakuen Hall indicated that. But today they announced he three-way ...

The companies 14th anniversary show will be from a sold out Sam's Town Casino Arena in Las Vegas on Friday February 26th, headlined by Jay Lethal defending the ROH title in a three-way against Kyle O'Reilly and Adam Cole.

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Originally Posted by Observer
There’s a presale now through tomorrow, Thursday 11:59 P.M. for WWE Payback (well, Ticketmaster is now listing it as Extreme Rules) in Newark, New Jersey on Sunday May 22nd. WWEPC is the presale code.

Figured that might be interested for those in the area and wanted to go to the event.

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Originally Posted by Observer
The trial in Hulk Hogan’s lawsuit against Gawker is now just two weeks away. Going into the trial, a few issues are still outstanding with regards to the trial:

* Hogan is trying to get anything that is the product of the original illegally made recordings of Hogan removed from the record entirely. Gawker and major media organizations who filed as intervenors, are, of course, both opposed.

* Hogan filed a number of motions on both that issue as well as issues like trying to get evidence about past Gawker controversies admitted at trial, seemingly trying to get Gawker’s defense thrown out, and more, which Gawker is of course opposing and filed a number of position statements on.


Some other sheet news includes:
  • Lucha Underground announced they will be hosting a live show during next month's SXSW event in Austin, Texas. https://twitter.com/luchaelrey/statu...62723468091392
  • NXT tag team Dash & Dawson are getting renamed as "The Revival." Would be their third team name since forming with the original name being The Mechanics.
  • Could just be a typo or possible sign of post-Mania plans but Ticketmaster recently revealed an upcoming RAW show in May is currently titled as "WWE Monday Night RAW vs WWE." Assuming its not a typo, could be looking at a possible new brand split or even "invasion"-like civil war storyline for the big post-Mania story. http://www.ticketmaster.com/wwe-mond...004F8AE1514B5C
  • Xavier Woods was a recent guest for Hot Pepper Gaming and gave a review for Street Fighter V while eating a hot pepper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgv881gtSb0
  • According to the Observer, WWE title match at Mania currently rumored to involve a guest ref with Bastista as the original option before he declined the offer. https://twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/s...62503459188736
  • Recent press conference Shinsuke Nakamura had revealed he is currently trying to keep his NJPW name in the WWE although will be getting a new theme. http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/6774...-note-and-more
  • New DLC pack for WWE 2k16 was released today which includes several new matches featuring WWE Hall of Famers. Online retailer Amazon is currently holding a sale for the game for $40.

slik 02-23-2016 10:07 PM

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Poit 02-23-2016 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Volare (Post 4773598)
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He said TNA!

weather vane 02-23-2016 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4774467)
You do. He always gets a big pop. You just have the 15% of the crowd that are loud and are there to be against whatever the machine is pushing.

He'll end up like Cena. Not everyone will be for him, but he'll get a reaction.

Put it this way. I would rather Roman get the reaction he got during his match than the reaction AJ Styles got during his match.

Dumb.

Poit 02-24-2016 12:24 AM

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