Now if Tony can get the UK to air on Thursday the world will be mostly happy. Australia is left out too right?

My ticket showed up yesterday and I got super excited

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cody says wins and losses aren't all that matters. He compares it to college football in that the quality of wins matters as well. There will be heat charts on how many times people lose to a certain move and the like.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp, Fightful.com TALL OF FAMER (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1179092508917338114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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If this was WWE, the rollup or school boy would be in the god tier for finishers and nothing else coming close to it.

Is anybody watching this countdown to dynamite show?

This is the most in and out of kayfabe show I've ever seen.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You heard on the Countdown to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TNTDrama</a> - Are <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheElite</a> ready? <a href="https://t.co/PSw29ZY8Iq">pic.twitter.com/PSw29ZY8Iq</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1179201431741620224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I like the "color burst" theme for Dynamite, interested in how they will incorporate it into the rest of the set

(setup so far at the arena for tomorrow's show)

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If they don't have any "I was there for.." type shirts I'm totally buying

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Tried to get a " I was there" shirt at All Out but by the time I got to go buy one they were all out. Had to settle for a Young Bucks shirt.

Didn't feel like waiting in line early on and went during the Japanese women's match.

Tis the day!

RIP AEW megathread

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ANNOUNCEMENT - NEW SCHEDULE �� <a href="https://t.co/gMN2fM6lcb">pic.twitter.com/gMN2fM6lcb</a></p>&mdash; ITV Wrestling (@ITVWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/ITVWrestling/status/1179391575891349510?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When asked by Wade Keller about what mistakes he believes they have made so far, Tony Khan mentioned Page/Sabian going too long, too much comedy on the early preshows, and a rough start to the first battle royal. Good to see all of that recognized and acknowledged.</p>&mdash; Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1179274866891075584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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With Kylie Rae returning to wrestling and working for Impact, it's brought back questions as to why she really left AEW after the company said she left for "personal reasons".

Apparently non-disclosures were signed, so it'll never go any further than he said, she said.

However the hot internet rumor going around is that Brandi effectively bullied her out of the company and that Meltzer/Alvarez are actively trying to help cover it up because they simply took AEW's excuse at face value and won't pursue it any further.

A wrestling company acknowledging booking fuckups. Nice.

Feel if that was the case, something actually juicy would have been leaked or hinted to by now considering Ryan Satin and others have been digging a lot.

If I had to guess, she probably had a Nathan Jones like moment where she ended up not feeling comfortable with her new high profile role and spotlight and wanted to take a step back on her career.

In what shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, tickets to Revolution in Chicago on 2/29 have sold out in less than an hour.

So many toxic fans on Twitter


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">?? <br><br>If you follow this account, than I’m sure you’ve seen how complimentary to WWE I am and often. I literally just gave them rights to use my dads name for their tag tournie.</p>&mdash; Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1208181747952898048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There is a lot about AEW to legitimately complain about, but Cody is not one of them. From the get go Cody has been the level headed one who has been a great face of the company. The other EVPs seem like wrestlers playing executives, but Cody has been a true pro.

If AEW was modeled on Cody's image instead of the goofy bingo hall and video game cosplaying stuff that only appeals to a small portion of the audience, they would be far better off in my honest opinion.

I think that's a great point @ xrodmuc316

Abit surprised they went away from the Sears Center to the slightly smaller Wintrust Arena.

Sadly going to have to agree with XRod.

Cody and Jericho get it. Bucks and Kenny are so far up their own asses it’s ridiculous.

They are marketing themselves to a niche audience which is never going to grow because it's not attracting the Casuals.

I've heard talk about then trying to court the "Lapsed Fan".
The lapsed fan was a fan of guys like Stone Cold doing beer baths, the Rock's catchphrases and women being half naked. Not "workrate"

Cody definitely gets it, but the rest not so much

You can still have good work rate tv matches too. They just don’t have to be 45 minute masturbation exhibitions. Tv matches should be 10 minutes tops unless it’s something special

But that's not what those types of fans want. They want "Attitude Era".

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You guys... It was me.<a href="https://twitter.com/dustinrhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dustinrhodes</a> is a legend, one of my all-time favorites, he was already bleeding, and I was just trying to take care of him.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a><a href="https://t.co/FFX1bd71db">pic.twitter.com/FFX1bd71db</a></p>&mdash; Arik Cannon (@arikcannon) <a href="https://twitter.com/arikcannon/status/1208462299964592128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wrestling Fans really are fickle. Watched some nxt clips on YT...

No one is calling out how ridiculous Finn Balor knocking over fans at ringside looked on NXT or how ridiculous it was for Rhea to escape from Shayna's submission & be 100% recovered in seconds, this week they're focused on AEW.

If AEW was more in Cody's image, it would come off as just being another WWE which is what viewers have been going away from in droves. Its also why TNA/Impact always struggled to grow their viewership because they came off as just being a poor man's WWE.

AEW's biggest strength right now is the variety feel to it in regards to there not being an "AEW style." On the downside that also has led to them not having a real unifying vision yet since they are still in a company and star building mode and NXT can easily counter them in the work-rate department.

WWE also changing NXT a lot since it moved to the USA Network is another big issue. Them constantly tossing out title matches and TakeOver quality matches being the biggest changes since before those used to be a lot more rare and the main focus towards slow builds for feuds and star development.

Dave Meltzer "ripped Kris Statlander a new asshole," calling the "alien" gimmick "embarrassing" and stuff...

Seems like a huge overreaction... She was just basically acting like a "strange" person who didn't talk... idk what the big deal is...

Feel like the gimmick makes me way more interested in her because before I thought she was just some generic wrestler... I think she might be my fav woman wrestler in AEW now.

I personallylove her gimmick. It makes her different and she stands out because of it. She also has a sweet finisher.

I prefer her Alien Gimmick to Brandi's G-Rated HooDoo schtick

NXT still has the same amount of "developmental" matches. It's just the show is twice as long now, and the extra hour is filled with marquee matches.

That is not an NXT problem though, that is all of wrestling since the 90's.

Something happened behind the scenes, a falling out or whatnot, because Dave went from being the biggest AEW hypeman to pulling a 180 and being overly critical towards AEW the last 2 weeks.

There is no reason to hate a new talent having an alien gimmick when this is the same company that has a guy with a dinosaur gimmick. I mean for real??? An alien wrestler is no more ridiculous than a dinosaur wrestler.

Meltzer going after Kris that hard over her gimmick is either him being an incredible hypocrite or a real sexist bastard.

They've also been picking up more of WWE (and WCW to a degree) bad habits when it comes to their booking and layout of shows.

It hasn't really hurt them due to having years worth of goodwill built up with wrestling fans and leaning a lot on workrate to mask those issues. AEW doesn't have the first and they are limited with the second which is why wrestling fans have become more unforgiving and fickle towards them.

Also the growing feeling online that NXT has become what people thought AEW was going to be and AEW not being like NJPW or Mid-South almost right from the gate.

Oh Smeat, come on, this is simply not the truth. Cody is way more oldschool NWA than anything. Nothing he does or has done since the inception of AEW has been WWE light.

Not a good argument at all.

Cody has been what WWE should be.

That's basically been the main recurring online complaint about Cody and his spotlight in AEW.

Its a double edge-sword since his NWA-like stuff has helped make the show feel different and been among the best parts of AEW but at the same time its also where the constant "Triple H" comparisons have been made and people feeling his stuff comes off more like WWE but handled better than what AEW was promoting and has been as a company.

AEW's early success wasn't because of Cody's vision of the company but because they promised to treat wrestling better than WWE has and also bring in a mix of styles than have a single defining style. The sports-like focus being one of those mix of styles that people ended up assuming it meant they were going to lean heavily towards the NJPW way of things.

I am very glad that AEW is not like NXT, which basically seems like "just matches" with hardly any interesting angles imo...

The same people hating on AEW are the ones who hate Orange Cassidy, who is maybe the most over person in the company

Me too. NXT is constant kick-outs of everything. Oddly enough, so much of the stuff people bitch about The Young Bucks doing a ton of NXT wrestlers do as well.

Just watched this week's AEW Dark, Orange Cassidy fucking rules

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Such a great episode... main event was so fun

This makes no sense. He's been the best part of the show and doesn't act like HHH at all. Anyone making that comparison is plainly incorrect. The only reason you'd have to compare him to HHH was that stupid spot with the throne--

WWE light would be them ramming dog food in peoples' mouths and doing bra and panties matches. Frankly, you're offbase on this one, Smeat.

I don't doubt Omega and the Bucks' talent, I've seen them do some great work. I just don't think that great work has occurred in AEW.

WWE hasn't had a bra and panties match in like 13 years.

Edit ::'(

I was being hyperbolic you w33n

I was complaining :(

I miss those matches lol

There's a lot of fans that prefer those matches to current women's wrestling.

Those fans are mongoloids who should be euthanized, not catered to.

Those are the fans they are trying to court though. "The lapsed fan from the Attitude Era". I unfortunately have spoken to quite a few of these cretins. They exist and there's way more of them than you'd believe.

Honestly don't think that "old lapsed Attitude Era fans" would even be looking for the "same thing" nowadays.... just can't see the "same stuff" appealing to them these days.....

They would be bored to tears with these long matches.

When people say they want the Attitude Era back, what they really mean is they want wrestling to be fun. Have you watched the Attitude Era recently? 80% of it is garbage. I don’t know anyone who is clamoring for more Road Dogg v. Headbanger Thrasher matches. But we all tolerated it because it was part of the spectacle of Austin and McMahon.

1998 Raw is atrocious. I tried to go back and watch and I couldn't get through.

I've also watched it on the network with a couple of friends who more or less stopped watching after 2001 and they were eating it up

That's all they wanted to watch.

Fans don't necessarily know what they want. And you can't replicate Stone Cold Steve Austin or the Rock.

I just don't think the way to more viewers is blowing your load with long, over-the-top matches.

You get there with good stories and establishing characters on your T.V. IMO. Then, when the PPVs come around, you go 100% to give fans' their money's worth.

in other words, long, taxing, dramatic matches should be something special. Not something you see on any given Tuesday.

There's a fine balance to giving fans just enough on your TV, where the action is hot but not overabundant.

The Attitude Era was great because it had stars. AEW has 3 stars: Jericho, Moxley, and Cody. And Cody has said he’s taking a backseat. So they need more stars. But who can you develop? MJF is an obvious choice who is basically the next Randy Orton but he needs time. PAC and Omega are two of the best in the world but I dunno about star quality. Page isn’t there yet.

They have to do more for those guys that they choose though.

Too much 50/50 booking already. Nobody seems strong except maybe MJF and Jericho. Though, if they're going by the NWA methodology, there's a chance the strong heels are by design. Because the booking is centered around the chase of the bad guy on top and not one dominant face champ. Or so I've heard.

Omega and Fenix are probably the best choices they currently have in regards to the short term. Fenix is the more valuable of the two since he can grow the Hispanic market for AEW and also strengthen their partnership with AAA.

Omega should have already been an established star for AEW but he mentioned before about wanting to take it easy this year for himself and being more focused on making sure the women's division was on very stable ground first. Based on what he said about the division for early 2020, that goal is almost done and he's likely going to start ramping things up for himself very soon.

OMG THIS IS INCREDIBLE!





How did I not know about this??? Kid was entertaining even back then!

a bit behind the times, that circulated some time ago

And he also released a magnificent statement via Tweet that I can’t be bothered to find right now where he blamed that “massive whale” for releasing the footage to try to latch on to his rising star.

Yeah I 100% missed it lol


That is awesome!

In another sign that an NJPW/AEW working agreement may have been reached....Tanahashi says he intends on asking for an AEW World Title match if he beats Jericho at the Dome

Okada in AEW please

If that's the case, I want an official announcement that the Ring of Honor partnership is over.

I feel like a NJPW boost would be very beneficial to AEW. Tanahashi beats Jericho at WrestleKingdom, imagine if he then defeated him on Dynamite or at a PPV. Then lost his first defense to Kenny.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: AEW Has Won The Wednesday Night Wars Every Week When DVR Viewers Are Included - <a href="https://t.co/QilbkUnaYI">https://t.co/QilbkUnaYI</a></p>&mdash; Cultaholic (@Cultaholic) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cultaholic/status/1209135533005451266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROH has nobody left that New Japan really want, Cobb is likely going to sign with NJPW directly when his contract is up, Scurll is gone, Cabana is gone. Cant think of anyone else of note they've even brought over this year.

A partnership would be great for AEW, not sure it really does all that much for New Japan. Would be cool for Tana though, maybe they could make use of some other singles guys who are in a holding pattern and give them something to do - EVIL, Suzuki, Goto, Ishii etc. I guess it would New Japan a boost in their somewhat lacking tag divisions (if Gedo even cares about that), maybe provide them with more Jr Heavyweights for tournaments.

Of course because why would you DVR NXT when it is added to the network the following day?

That is presenting a skewed narrative.

At this point, AAA grabbing all the notable US indie companies for partnerships and CMLL still sticking with NJPW despite the Dragon Lee situation are likely the only reasons why the ROH-NJPW partnership still exists. MLW, AEW, and Impact are all with AAA while NWA has less to offer than ROH does.

NJPW would get a big boost in terms of US star power by getting access to the Elite crew again. They took a noticeable hit in both star power and merch sales in the US when the Elite left. Unlike ROH, they did start improving their situation towards the latter half of the year but having those guys around would still be a big boost for the company.

I think that NJPW and AXS are almost about to come to an end. NJPW of America could absolutely use some TNT rub on Dynamite.

If I was Tony Kahn I'd angle to get a deal with NJPW. I'd say one condition in that nobody working in AEW from the AAA deal can work in the same match as someone working for CMLL through NJPW, which isn't common anyway. I'd encourage my younger talents to sign contracts with MLW or WOW, work for any company other than WWE/NXT/WWN, ROH, Impact and CMLL (to keep AAA happy).

AEW really never needs to do house shows. Instead, letting their workers make indie dates all over the world, they will stay relevant and original, which honing their craft in the way which makes a world class wrestler.

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Of course they'd find a way to blame Cornette.

All that means is Jericho wins

LOL, Jim Cornette totally taught fans to not overlook horrible examples of bad wrestling spots. Before him we never would have even considered it!

No promotion that has a weekly television show should need to do house shows in this day and age. Preaching to the choir but jfc WWE has 7 hours of live TV a week plus PPVs.

AEW is just fine with what they have going. Dynamite, Dark, and even BTE is more than enough.

I dunno, the whole point of his run there is to put over NJPW's talent. Only person he totally went over is EVIL. Beat Naito but gave him his win back. Lost to Okada. Lost to Kenny, but Kenny gave the win back in another company.

Tana beating Jericho at the Dome and then returning the favor by losing in an AEW Title defense seems like classic booking.

House shows are utterly pointless. I guess they make sense for overseas tours, but in the States I don't see the appeal. They make a small profit at best, and it's such an old system. Nobody needs the reps.

I think Tanahashi wins and there is no AEW Title match.

Even if Tana is just trying to generate some interest in his match and there is no planned follow up regardless, it's worked because now I'm interested in his match and I didnt care about it at all before.

What an Ace.

Jesus Christ Joey Won!!!!

They’ve announced that they’re running Dynamite at the Prudential Center in New Jersey in March, so it’s a step to a bigger arena...one that WWE usually runs a few times a year.

I think I'll go to the Prudential Center show. Might as well. It's kind of a bitch to get to, but It could be worse for a much worse show.

Damn, feel like they might not come to "NYC proper" for a few months now that they are going to Newark... Kinda don't really feel like going there...

Based on a tweet from Cody afterwards, seems they were considering the Barclays Center and/or similar venues in New York City but got blocked due to existing deals with WWE.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you Prudential Center for bypassing politics &amp; nonsense and just giving the Jersey/NY fans what they want! I can’t wait.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MerryChristmas?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MerryChristmas</a> <a href="https://t.co/DbbRibAz1Z">https://t.co/DbbRibAz1Z</a></p>&mdash; Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1209880328464162818?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Confirmed that records reset on the January 1st ep.

Lol Jim Ross is such a whiny bitch.

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I like these videos, but I really do think they should do stuff like this at the top of Dynamite instead of on YouTube (or maybe just re-air it). Gives importance to an otherwise thrown together match in Best Friends & Orange Cassidy vs Jurassic Express, recaps the Kris Statlander saga so far, and sheds a little light as to why Cody & Dustin are wrestling the Lucha Bros. Add in a few more minutes covering the other matches announced, and that could be a cool, different way to open up a wrestling show every week.

Or just disperse these clips throughout the show. You can't rely on viewers to continue following on YouTube to get pertinent storyline information. Not every TV match needs to be 12 minutes, knock a few back down to 9 minutes and make time for some of these clips.

Agreed

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Who is the leader of Dark Order?

Some people are saying Matt Hardy because the voice said "WONDERFUL"...

Some people have another theory... notice the white tennis racket, the glasses put on the table at the end of the clip?

Who do you think is going to be revealed as the leader of Dark Order and how long do you think Cornette lasts before being fired?

AEW finally going across the Mississippi River (I'm not counting those quick skips across into Texas and back) and deep into the western U.S. and going into Colorado and Utah.

This is what I've been waiting for. They've been hanging around the deep south/eastern half of the country too long and need to explore new grounds.

Said it before, but I would have made the weekly show 30 minutes, an hour tops, with no wrestling at all and just promos, angles, and hype videos building to matches.

Jim Cornette has lighter coloured eyebrows.
I suppose he could have dyed them...

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I'm not talking about Evil Uno (in the mask) I'm talking about the off screen voice.

I think they're deliberately trying to plan red herrings. The tennis racket is an allusion to Cornette, whereas the racket is for Matt Hardy. The glasses could be Joey Janela or Joey Ryan or some Joey fuck.

It's clearly going to be Marty Scurll

Marty is wrestling for ROH during Mania weekend. Supposedly his deal expired in November so he's just been freelancing ever since.

It's possible that in the past year he decided he'd rather not go straight to AEW like everyone assumed.

Seems he's also still in talks with ROH regarding him potentially staying with the company.