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Emperor Smeat 11-07-2020 05:03 AM

Tanahashi vs. KENTA was very good.

Current status of IWGP US title match at Wrestle Kingdom 15:
SPOILER: show

KENTA retained his briefcase.

Him vs. Jon Moxley still on track for next year's Wrestle Kingdom

Emperor Smeat 11-07-2020 05:32 AM

HOLY SHIT

SPOILER: show
Jay White just beat Ibushi to win Ibushi's briefcase for the IWGP Heavyweight & IC title match at Wrestle Kingdom.

1st time ever the holder of the G1 briefcase lost a defense match.

Emperor Smeat 11-07-2020 06:27 AM

IWGP Double title match was great. Easily was the best EVIL vs. Naito match since EVIL's heel turn a few months ago.

Also probably had the most storytelling within a NJPW match in a long time.

SPOILER: show
Seems Yujiro is now a member of EVIL's faction of Bullet Club after trying to help him win the title.

Jay White teasing an attack on EVIL only to bluff and attack Naito to try to guarantee an all-Bullet Club title match at Wrestle Kingdom.

SANADA managing to not be a giant loser for once and actually was useful in saving Naito.

Ibushi going after White as a hint their feud isn't over and maybe the same for the briefcase's current ownership status.

and the Naito vs. EVIL feud ending on a very high note.


Power Struggle was great overall. Takagai vs. Suzuki and the last three matches are what I'd recommend the most for watching.

:lol: at White continuing his post-match interruption promo while running away from Psycho Ibushi.

Evil Vito 11-07-2020 11:20 AM

Gedo just likes to troll people at this point.

Mike the Metal Ed 11-07-2020 08:02 PM

SPOILER: show
https://i.imgur.com/5J3ss8B.png

So, Marty Asami confirmed blind? His positioning couldn't be better to see that.


That has to be the worst call of the year in wrestling.

ClockShot 11-08-2020 07:25 AM

SPOILER: show
I'm really hoping at this point the Heavyweight and IC titles get busted up before Wrestle Kingdom. Let Naito keep the heavyweight, drop the IC title down the road. SANADA beat him during the G1. Let him challenge for for it and win and make the masses happy.

Mike the Metal Ed 11-08-2020 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5389466)
SPOILER: show
I'm really hoping at this point the Heavyweight and IC titles get busted up before Wrestle Kingdom. Let Naito keep the heavyweight, drop the IC title down the road. SANADA beat him during the G1. Let him challenge for for it and win and make the masses happy.

I think they'll wait and see how many people they can bring in for Wrestle Kingdom and beyond before they make that call.

Emperor Smeat 11-09-2020 05:08 PM

NJPW announced all of the teams for this year's World Tag League:
  • FinJuice (Juice Robinson & David Finlay)
  • Taichi & Zack Sabre Jr.
  • Guerillas of Destiny (Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa)
  • Hiroshi Tanahashi & Toa Henare
  • YOSHI-HASHI & Hirooki Goto
  • Toru Yano & Tomohiro Ishii
  • Shingo Takagi & SANADA
  • EVIL & Yujiro Takahashi
  • Bad Luck Fale & Chase Owens
  • Great O-Khan & "X"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
It was announced that The Great O-Khan will team with a mystery partner, or "X". It wasn’t made clear who that would be. O-Khan is part of The Empire stable along with Will Ospreay and Bea Preistley.

Current rumor for who the mystery "X" person is:
SPOILER: show
Jeff Cobb

ClockShot 11-09-2020 05:21 PM

Can't wait to see what the Cold Skull Dragons can do.

What got me scratching my head is they broke up YOSHI-HASHI and Ishii. Which, I thought, had some legs and were a credible threat for the tag titles when they were together last year.

Gonna be nice to see some fresh Bullet Club faces too.

Mr. Nerfect 11-10-2020 05:28 PM

Gedo is a fucking genius.

Ultra Mantis 11-10-2020 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5390037)
Can't wait to see what the Cold Skull Dragons can do.

What got me scratching my head is they broke up YOSHI-HASHI and Ishii. Which, I thought, had some legs and were a credible threat for the tag titles when they were together last year.

Gonna be nice to see some fresh Bullet Club faces too.

I think Yano had his run with Cabana and Goto was doing his LA Dojo gimmick which left us with YOSHI-Ishii as the CHAOS leftovers. Not sure why Goto-HASHI are bothering teaming again though considering they just got their arses kicked by the champs. Goto and Ishii would make the most solid CHAOS tag at this stage. They could have even had Kazu actually working the league as YOSHI's partner since he keeps saying they're still tag partners despite not teaming up in years. It's not like he would eat pins anywhere and he might actually try so his tag partner doesnt show him up.

Fignuts 11-11-2020 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5390335)
Gedo is a fucking genius.

I think he's probably the best booker in wrestling in terms of consistent quality, but he needs to calm the fuck down with the outside interfernce and ref bumps. It's ramped up considerably in the last year, and it's honestly turned me off NJPW a bit.

I've also heard the constant 19 counts in every match are 100% a Gedo thing, although I can't confirm that. Either way, I hate that shit.

Mr. Nerfect 11-11-2020 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5390502)
I think he's probably the best booker in wrestling in terms of consistent quality, but he needs to calm the fuck down with the outside interfernce and ref bumps. It's ramped up considerably in the last year, and it's honestly turned me off NJPW a bit.

I've also heard the constant 19 counts in every match are 100% a Gedo thing, although I can't confirm that. Either way, I hate that shit.

Those are fair calls. I’m more looking at his broad booking strokes.

Emperor Smeat 11-15-2020 04:24 AM

The mystery new member of Will Ospreay's Empire stable and tag partner for Great-O-Khan for the World Tag League was revealed to be

SPOILER: show
Jeff Cobb

Emperor Smeat 11-15-2020 04:33 AM

NJPW must have some really big plans for Great-O-Khan since his first two feuds in the company are with their top stars. First with Okada and now set up a potential singles feud with Tanahashi next.

Emperor Smeat 11-15-2020 06:24 AM

Tama Tonga looks like a completely different person with his new buzz cut-like hair and clean shaven combo look.

Like he could pass off as Tanga Loa's twin brother with how similar both look now.

Emperor Smeat 11-15-2020 07:05 AM

Hiromu Takahashi vs. Taiji Ishimori Best of the Super Jrs. match was great.

Hiromu getting nailed with a piledriver onto the apron was crazy.

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If Night 1 is any indication, Best of the Super Jrs tournament is going to be amazing although not so much for World Tag League.

Mike the Metal Ed 11-15-2020 08:40 AM

Maybe it's because I was more used to him from regularly going to Revpro shows, but I couldn't give less of a shit about the new, boring Great-O-Khan. You need a gimmick of SOME kind to work that style.

Evil Vito 11-15-2020 06:03 PM

I get that they had to fill out Empire but man I wanted Cobb in Suzuki-gun.

Emperor Smeat 11-20-2020 05:50 AM

Apparently Taguchi's new routine for matches is for his butt to get exposed as part of the finish and just let it hang out for the whole world to see afterwards for his post-match antics.

2nd match in a row that's happened although laughed at the disgusted WTF face Tenzan gave to him at ringside.

Emperor Smeat 11-20-2020 06:52 AM

Robbie Eagles vs. SHO and Hiromu vs. BUSHI were amazing from today's Best of the Jrs show. The latter being arguably the best match of the tournament so far.

Emperor Smeat 11-23-2020 05:46 AM

:lol: either Taguchi or NJPW got in trouble for having Taguchi's bare ass be exposed one too many times during this World Tag League & Best of the Super Jrs. tour.

Taguchi did the same exposed butt gag during his match tonight but this time has his red underwear shown instead for the spots.

Emperor Smeat 11-25-2020 05:44 AM

Guess Plumber's crack is perfectly fine by NJPW or whoever was upset over Taguchi's exposed butt routine these days.

Emperor Smeat 12-02-2020 06:53 AM

Hiromu Takahashi's last two matches (vs. Eagles and vs. SHO) during this World Tag League and Best of the Super Jrs tournaments have easily been the best matches of this combined tour so far.

Emperor Smeat 12-05-2020 06:58 AM

Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Hiromu Takahashi was freaking amazing. Takahashi has been the MVP of this year's Best of the Super Jrs. tournament with all the gems he's delivered.

That match and the 6-man tag match were the best from the final regular Best of the Super Jrs. show on this tour.

Volare 12-05-2020 02:31 PM

I like this version of Osprey.

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ClockShot 12-05-2020 03:18 PM

Haven't watch any of this. But judging by what Smeat's been saying, just watching anything involving Time Bomb and you're in for a match.

Emperor Smeat 12-06-2020 04:29 AM

:lol: at the English commentary during the start of the DOUKI vs. Ryusuke Taguchi match tonight.

Kevin Kelly and Gino Gambino just making a bunch of "69" related jokes that would be worthy of the "I don't even known if that's PG" R-Truth gif.

Emperor Smeat 12-06-2020 04:46 AM

Final tournament matches show is almost half over and already one big surprise happened tonight.

SPOILER: show
Tanahashi tapping out to Tama Tonga's Sharpshooter.

He started this tag tournament with a surprise squash loss to Great-O-Khan & Cobb and almost got squashed again to end the tournament.

Emperor Smeat 12-06-2020 05:51 AM

If AEW and NJPW ever form a partnership, really want to see Omega face off against Yano in a match over who has the longer and more obnoxious entrance announcement routine.

Emperor Smeat 12-06-2020 07:02 AM

Latter half of the joint tournament show was amazing.

This upcoming Friday's Finals matches for World Tag League and Best of the Super Jrs.:
SPOILER: show

World Tag League 2020 Finals - FinJuice vs. Guerillas of Destiny
Best of the Super Juniors 2020 Finals - Hiromu Takahashi vs. El Desperado

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2020 03:44 PM

I'm not a big fan of Ospreay, but Gedo clearly setting him and Okada up to have a "modern classic" in the same vein as Okada/Omega from 2017. It's not exactly the same circumstances (not the title match), but Ospreay's stock is going to go way up after this and Meltzer will probably jizz himself to death.

Evil Vito 12-08-2020 08:45 AM

They went the path of least resistance with both tournaments, but that's not a bad thing.

Real happy Despy's had such a good showing, barring a Gedo shock he won't be winning on Friday but as a fan of his I'm glad he got to be a finalist and make a step up. Hiromu always felt like the obvious winner from the onset and understandably so, and he's been backing up the hype with incredible performances.

WTL is whatever but it is interesting that the two teams who have been an active part of the US expansion are running roughshod through the tourney in Japan.

Emperor Smeat 12-11-2020 04:19 AM

Ospreay got new entrance music for himself and Empire stable.

Sounds pretty good overall.

Emperor Smeat 12-11-2020 04:37 AM

Based on that Empire vs. Toa Henare, Hiroshi Tanahashi, &amp; Kazuchika Okada match, very likely getting Tanahashi vs. Great-O-Khan at one of the nights of Wrestle Kingdom.

Emperor Smeat 12-11-2020 04:51 AM

Add SANADA vs. EVIL and Jeff Cobb vs. Shingo Takagi as potential Wrestle Kingdom matches as well.

SANADA snapping after the match and beating the shit out of EVIL is probably the most interesting thing he's done character-wise in a long time.

Emperor Smeat 12-11-2020 05:49 AM

:lol: at Tama Tonga pulling a Scott Hall with his sell of David Finlay's Stunner.

Emperor Smeat 12-11-2020 05:52 AM

World Tag League Finals was great.

SPOILER: show
Guerillas of Destiny beat FinJuice.

1st time ever GoD won the Tag League.

Bit surprised they are actually doing a heel vs. heel match for the tag belts at Wrestle Kingdom.

Emperor Smeat 12-11-2020 06:25 AM

:eek: El Desperado removed his mask.

Sure most of it was ripped off because of Hiromu but that was a crazy moment.

Also Despy looks a ton more creepy or sinister sans mask.

Emperor Smeat 12-11-2020 06:31 AM

Best of the Super Jrs was freakin amazing.

Like a very strong contender to be in my Top 5 favorite matches of this year.

SPOILER: show
Hiromu Takashi beat El Desperado.

Officially challenged the winner of this Saturday's Super J-Cup to a match on Night 1 of Wrestle Kingdom

Emperor Smeat 12-13-2020 12:32 AM

Winner of the Super J-Cup and facing Hiromu Takashi at Night 1 of Wrestle Kingdom

SPOILER: show
El Phantasmo

:lol: at the NJPW official presenting the crooked Super J-Cup trophy to him that he almost broke over ACH's back at the start of the Finals match.

Volare 12-13-2020 11:05 AM

Eyyyyyy I'm down for that.

Emperor Smeat 12-23-2020 08:01 PM

Seems NJPW might be needing to give some refunds for Wrestle Kingdom 15 tickets since a new government order in Japan just set a strict limit of 5k for events at venues with 10k or higher in capacity until January 11th.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As my mentions tab reminds me, this will also affect Wrestle Kingdom, the annual New Japan Pro Wrestling event at Tokyo Dome - the hottest ticket in puroresu, scheduled for Jan. 4-5.</p>&mdash; Dan Orlowitz (@aishiterutokyo) <a href="https://twitter.com/aishiterutokyo/status/1341712564565069824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 12-23-2020 11:56 PM

Wrestle Kingdom cards.

Night 1

Pre-Show: New Japan Rumble (22 entrants, final four advance to the #KOPW match on 1/5)

1. Hiromu Takahashi [LIJ] vs. El Phantasmo [Bullet Club] (winner advances to wrestle Taiji Ishimori for the IWGP Jr. Title on Night 2)

2. IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team Titles: Dangerous Tekkers (Zack Sabre Jr./Taichi) [Suzuki-gun] (V3 defense) vs. G.o.D. (Tama Tanga/Tanga Loa) [Bullet Club]

3. IWGP US Title Briefcase: KENTA (holder) [Bullet Club] vs. Satoshi Kojima [Sekigun]

4. Hiroshi Tanahashi [Sekigun] vs. Great-O-Khan [Empire]

5. Kazuchika Okada [Chaos] vs. Will Ospreay [Empire]

6. IWGP Heavyweight/Intercontinental Titles: Tetsuya Naito [LIJ] V2 defense) vs. Kota Ibushi [Sekigun]

Night 2

Pre-Show: Stardom Exhibition Match (probably won’t be streamed)

1. #KOPW 2021 Decision Match: X vs. X vs. X vs. X

2. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Titles: Yoshinobu Kanemaru/El Desperado [Suzuki-gun] (V2 defense) vs. Ryusuke Taguchi/Master Wato [Sekigun]

3. NEVER Openweight Title: Shingo Takagi [LIJ] (V1 defense) vs. Jeff Cobb [Empire]

4. SANADA [LIJ] vs. EVIL [Bullet Club]

5. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Taiji Ishimori [Bullet Club] (V1 defense) vs. Winner of Hiromu Takahashi/El Phantasmo from night 1

6. IWGP Heavyweight/Intercontinental Titles: Winner of Tetsuya Naito/Kota Ibushi (V3 or V1 defense) vs. Jay White [Bullet Club]

ClockShot 12-24-2020 04:27 PM

Kota HAS to win out. Right?

Emperor Smeat 12-24-2020 04:47 PM

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Ultra Mantis 12-24-2020 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5405479)
Kota HAS to win out. Right?

I really hope he does, but Gedo loves getting that bullet club heat and Jay is super protected. Naito still hasnt given his dome roll call but with the crowd restrictions I dont think that's a factor and it would fly in the face of the booking for him to win two in a row again. Feels like Ibushi will get a one day reign at the very least.

Mr. Nerfect 12-25-2020 01:59 AM

Jay White is better than Kenny Omega.

KENTA vs. Satoshi Kojima has to be some sort of retirement thing for Kojima, right? Or is there some special history between the two? I don't really care about that match on paper right now.

Okada vs. Ospreay is set to knock Okada/Omega off the pedestal as every geek's favorite match. Gedo is setting that up perfectly.

Like the idea of them giving Hiromu a big, built-up win.

I can't see Ibushi losing to Naito. It just seems like after losing the briefcase he needs something. But I don't necessarily see him walking out of Night 2 as champion either. It's really weird.

Maybe Naito to win Night 1 and Ibushi to get something back on Night 2? Because they'll surely have Naito and Ibushi working both shows, right?

ClockShot 12-26-2020 12:25 PM

Japan is going to ban foreign nationals from entering the country starting Monday. The new COVID strain has been detected.

Japanese citizens and foreigners who have a residence can still go in. But, of course, have to quarantine.

I wonder if anyone is gonna get out or try to come in.

Evil Vito 12-26-2020 12:42 PM

All of the talent working Wrestle Kingdom are already in the country, but if someone like Jay White, G.O.D, Jeff Cobb etc want to go home at any point they likely won't be allowed back into the country anytime soon. It'll be LA Dojo for them.

Volare 12-27-2020 06:45 AM

The Commonwealth Kingpin. HELL of name there.


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Evil Vito 01-12-2021 12:08 AM

So now Mox has formally responded to KENTA, the question is where and when their match will finally happen. Japan's under new travel restrictions and beyond that, it's a two and a half week process just to get there and back between travel and mandatory quarantine. I don't see him doing that with a pregnant wife at home, and we're still a long way away from being out of this pandemic.

Given he was in the LA Dojo I'm assuming they'll eventually have their match there, KENTA lives in the US so he'd presumably be coming home eventually anyway, and if he's still got Japanese residency he might be able to head back quickly unlike the true foreign talent. I'd guess they could tape the match and air it during the ring cleaning intermission at a show.

As far as I know, AEW have to clear all of Mox's bookings in the US but given there would be no fans and it's not running up against AEW programming or anything, I'd hope they're OK with it especially if they want to work together eventually. At the same time, even if they do want to work together I'm not sure they'd want to draw too much attention to one of their biggest stars dropping another promotion's tertiary championship.

Jordan 01-12-2021 09:06 AM

Honestly the best thing would be for Mox to defend against Kenta at a NJPW of America show and have Kenny and Don show up and screw him.

Evil Vito 01-14-2021 08:26 PM

Jay White removed from the roster page. Man I hope this winds up a work.

Evil Vito 01-14-2021 08:29 PM

I can't even picture what a Jay White in WWE looks like. There's no way he keeps the nickname. There’s no way he keeps the gimmick and aesthetic. I can see them telling him to shave the beard. He'll be wrestling WWE style and cutting 'my guest at this time' scripted promos. At best, he's Rollins with an accent.

Ultra Mantis 02-03-2021 03:27 PM

Not been keeping up with the New Begginning tour that much, but I have watched a bunch of the backstage comments and the character work being put in by Naito / Hiromu / SHO and Ibushi is ridiculously entertaining. They're constantly teasing SANADA is going to get involved in the backstage shenanigans too and hopefully he does because SHO needs someone there who can keep a straight face. Who would have thought 2021 Honma would bring more greatness out of Naito than EVIL?

Also popped for a wild Goto suddenly rampaging on GOD and Jay White after yesterdays show. Tama Tonga still looks wrong.

Evil Vito 02-03-2021 03:32 PM

Glad White is sticking around.

Ultra Mantis 02-03-2021 03:48 PM

Jay is such a troll its brilliant. Blaming his emotional breakdown on Ishii of all people.

Baby face Taichi and anti hero Zack are killing it too, Tama has gone full ham speaking fluent Japanese as the spirit of Iizuka's iron finger is driving him insane. What is going on.

slik 02-04-2021 10:20 AM

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Damian Rey 2.0 02-04-2021 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5422201)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Japan Pro-Wrestling Sets Roku Channel TV Deal in U.S., U.K, Canada <a href="https://t.co/HsQQ0uirfK">https://t.co/HsQQ0uirfK</a></p>&mdash; Variety (@Variety) <a href="https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1357343345866018816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I have a roku, so this is fucking awesome for me.

Evil Vito 02-04-2021 11:03 PM

Yeah I'm really pumped about this. I enjoy NJPW but I don't stay subscribed all year, this will help give me my fix.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-05-2021 01:10 AM

1 hour means they'll likely showcase their best stuff. Like how axs tv would segment the best 4 or 5 matches from wrestle kingdom into a months worth of tv. If that's the plan than fuck yes.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-05-2021 01:10 AM

Okada coming to my roku? Boner alert.

Jordan 02-05-2021 02:22 AM

I had been considering a Roku but I don't NEED it. This does make it more appealing.

erickman 02-05-2021 03:07 AM

wonder who will call the matches will they get jr back

Damian Rey 2.0 02-05-2021 04:10 AM

Is Kevin Kelly still doing their English language pbp? He was actually better than JR. Way more enthusiastic and engaging.

Emperor Smeat 02-05-2021 04:35 PM

According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, NJPW deal with Roku was the best offer they had on the table.

What hurt them a lot was not having any real valuable viewership data that could have been used to sell this new weekly show to a better network. Part of it was due to the lack of tv exposure in the US after they got booted from AXS TV and the other part was due to AXS TV not being a Nielsen subscriber until last year.

They did have an offer from CBS Sports but they would only earn money via getting a share of ad revenues during shows like Impact's situation during their time on POP TV.

ClockShot 02-05-2021 07:04 PM

Man, CBS Sports would have been the way to go. Easily accessible on most, if not, all cable providers. And maybe get some big shows either on replay or live on the flagship channel.

I guess Roku will get them on their way. But, I wish they would focus on getting NJPW World available on smart TVs, game consoles, etc. instead of being tied into either the website or use of a Fire stick. Better way of getting exposure if you ask me.

DaveWadding 02-05-2021 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5422409)
Is Kevin Kelly still doing their English language pbp? He was actually better than JR. Way more enthusiastic and engaging.

Yeah, he's still there, still shouting Destino

Damian Rey 2.0 02-05-2021 09:08 PM

That's the only part of his commentary I didn't like. I wonder if he's still a hermaphrodite...

Emperor Smeat 02-10-2021 06:50 AM

IWGP Tag title and IWGP Jr. title match at Night 1 of New Beginning in Hiroshima 2021 were great.

The ending to the Tag title match is likely going to be very divisive because of all the shenanigans but felt it was one of those rare times where it actually helped more than hurt the match because of the storyline between Tama Tonga and Taichi over Iizuka's glove. Only big downside was that match didn't really need to be almost 30 minutes long for the finish it got even if the finish itself made sense based on how things went down during it.

Emperor Smeat 02-11-2021 02:09 AM

Yano's ring entrance merch hawking announcement during tonight's Night 2 of New Beginning in Hiroshima show might have been longer than the Yano & Okada vs. Dock Togo & EVIL match.

Emperor Smeat 02-11-2021 02:16 AM

Gedo must have been drunk when he wrote the EVIL vs. Okada stuff for tonight's show.

Pretty much WWE style shit booking for match layout and finishes.

Emperor Smeat 02-11-2021 03:02 AM

:lol: at Zack Sabre Jr suddenly showing up for guest commentary for this IWGP Double title match and just starts making fun of both guys when asked for expert advice on the competitors.

Made fun of SANADA for his goofy looking entrance attires and Ibushi for his comedic wrestling work during his time in DDT Pro Wrestling.

Emperor Smeat 02-11-2021 03:42 AM

Just like with Night 1, both of the title matches were the best stuff from tonight's Night 2 of New Beginning in Hiroshima show.

The stuff involving EVIL & Okada was easily the worst thing from both nights.

Post-match stuff from the IWGP Double title match:
SPOILER: show
Ibushi beat SANADA.

Naito comes out to challenge Ibushi but only for his IC belt.

If that happens and Naito wins, that would be a bit surprising since NJPW's original long term plan for the Double title was for Okada to hold it at least once before they'd split up the belts.

Ultra Mantis 02-11-2021 02:38 PM

SANADA really cementing his position as the new Goto :'( Not sure what he does next, at best they could build to him taking the IC off Naito somewhere down the line but he's pretty much written off for the rest of the year as a legit contender for any of the tournaments.

Emperor Smeat 02-11-2021 06:14 PM

I could see him be a finalist in the upcoming New Japan Cup tournament but its going to just lead to the same outcome of him losing in the end.

NJPW and Gedo has made it clear he's not going any higher in status nor winning any top tier gold until he signs an actual contract with them.

Ultra Mantis 02-11-2021 06:38 PM

His New Japan Cup pattern was broken by EVIL's heel turn last year so I think he might even be on the shortlist for this years annual first round upset. Giving him a deep run so early even seems counter productive to me and is just wheel spinning. I'd like to see him get a bit of development and maybe realise he needs to switch up his moves, maybe add an impact finisher or even just lose his cool when a feud calls for it.

Really strange that he hasn't signed a deal yet though, he does absolutely nothing else and doesn't even work random indie shows or have a side business like Suzuki. Even fellow himbo Ibushi managed to figure out signing up was a good idea.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-12-2021 02:11 AM

NJPW Roku debut features a banger between Jay White and Naito from Wrestle Kingdom last year. I saw it last year but this is such a great match, and was my first intro to the Switchblade.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 04:12 AM

NJPW had a new Young Lion named Yuto Nakashima debut on tonight's Road to Castle Attack show and he got struck by some very awful bad luck.

Suffered a serious arm injury very early into his debut match.

Emperor Smeat 02-17-2021 04:23 PM

According to the Wrestling Observer, NJPW had the chance to return to AXS TV for their new US television deal but turned it down due to them wanting their weekly show to be on a service or channel with a bigger reach.

Also the deal with AXS TV would have been exclusive while their current deal with Roku allows them the ability to have their weekly show air on multiple platforms.

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Originally Posted by 411Mania
NJPW apparently had the opportunity to return to AXS TV recently, but turned them down in favor of their Roku deal. It was noted on the latest Wrestling Observer Radio that AXS TV was interested in bringing New Japan back, but that the Japanese wrestling company decided to go with Roku was better in terms of strategy.

The report noted that NJPW wants to be on a bigger network and their deal with Roku is not exclusive, so it gets the company in the US market while not locking them down the way they would be if they signed a deal with AXS TV.

NJPW aired on AXS TV from 2014 to 2019, exiting the channel when their TV deal expired after Impact owners Anthem Sports & Entertainment bought AXS. The company premiered on Roku last week, with new episodes airing Thursday at 5 PM.


Damian Rey 2.0 02-18-2021 03:05 PM

Good for them. So far they only have wrestle kingdom 2020 matches on there. I wonder if whatever they're producing going forward is going to summarize the current storylines and feuds.

Emperor Smeat 02-22-2021 07:11 PM

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ClockShot 02-22-2021 08:11 PM

Great. How's out again.

No. Not really.

Soooooooo, another Jr. Heavyweight Tourney for the belt for Taiji Ishimori to win back?

Ultra Mantis 02-22-2021 09:05 PM

Ishimori is somehow the most boring full time Jr which is weird because when you see him live he's like 4 feet tall but shredded. He's like that child bodybuilder except he's a grown man. Time for SHO or Despy to ascend the ranks, please. Probably will be stuck with ELP as the champ though until Hiromu comes back for the cardboard belt :(

Emperor Smeat 02-22-2021 09:28 PM

Doesn't help that he's also lost a step in his ring skills ever since he suffered a serious injury a couple years ago.

Emperor Smeat 02-24-2021 05:52 PM

According to Fightful and Fanbyte, Marty Scurll worked at NJPW's set of tapings last month for their weekly Strong series.

He did a storyline angle segment with Rocky Romero that hasn't aired yet.

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Originally Posted by Fightful
On Wednesday, Fightful reported Marty Scurll was backstage at a recent NJPW Strong taping in Los Angeles and had expressed interest in rejoining the company. Further details regarding his involvement at the tapings were not known.

Emily Pratt of Fanbyte reports Scurll did have an on-screen role at the tapings on January 22 and was involved in a post-match angle with Rocky Romero. The angle has yet to air on television.

The source told Pratt, "They weren’t trying to hide him. I thought we were going to be the company that wasn’t booking these guys to get some buzz. They’re going to get buzz alright, but probably not the kind they’re looking for. And it just reeks of letting things slide because these people are all friends or whatever. I really just think fans should know his involvement beforehand, so they can choose to tune in or not.”


Volare 02-26-2021 07:02 AM

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Volare 02-26-2021 07:03 AM

Also give the title to ELP.

Emperor Smeat 02-26-2021 10:52 PM

The finish to the IWGP US title match between Moxley and KENTA was very interesting.

SPOILER: show
Moxley beat KENTA via the Death Rider and retained his title instead of dropping it as everyone had speculated would happen.


This week's Strong show was the best one so far in series history.

AEW & NJPW partnership got a lot more interesting after tonight's show.

Volare 02-27-2021 01:12 AM

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Emperor Smeat 02-27-2021 04:37 AM

Night 1 of Castle Attack was a nice show overall. Only matches really worth watching were the final two of Ishii vs. Jay White and Okada vs. EVIL. The rest were all right but nothing worth catching if you missed the show.

Ishii vs. White was simply amazing while Okada vs. EVIL was one of EVIL's better matches since he turned heel and split from LIJ.

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2021 05:59 PM

Mox retaining the belt was predictable. He’s a much bigger star than KENTA. It’s why they put the belt on him in the first place.

Emperor Smeat 02-27-2021 06:27 PM

:lol: at thinking Moxley retaining was predictable.

NJPW's been trying for months to get that US belt back in their hands for their Strong shows since its been severely hampering their plans for Strong during this coronavirus pandemic.

Them deciding to keep the belt on Moxley the first time he's able to wrestle on Strong means they have some bigger plans for this AEW-NJPW partnership than some originally speculated.

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5429781)
:lol: at thinking Moxley retaining was predictable.

NJPW's been trying for months to get that US belt back in their hands for their Strong shows since its been severely hampering their plans for Strong during this coronavirus pandemic.

Them deciding to keep the belt on Moxley the first time he's able to wrestle on Strong means they have some bigger plans for this AEW-NJPW partnership than some originally speculated.

I’ve been calling it for fucking months. KENTA is a 40-something older Japanese dude who worked for NOAH and his best years are behind him. They weren’t going to use the hottest non-WWE talent available to put over that guy when they could knight someone for their US expansion. If they wanted the belt off Mox, they could have just stripped him and had him come back when he was available. Use some common sense, dingus.

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2021 06:34 PM

This is like when people were surprised Okada — you know, the biggest star in the promotion — beat Naito at WK in 2018. When you have a long reign like that, you don’t use that as a drawing point just to have it end at the first chance you get.

Gedo is not as stupid as people on the internet.

Emperor Smeat 02-27-2021 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5429785)
I’ve been calling it for fucking months. KENTA is a 40-something older Japanese dude who worked for NOAH and his best years are behind him. They weren’t going to use the hottest non-WWE talent available to put over that guy when they could knight someone for their US expansion. If they wanted the belt off Mox, they could have just stripped him and had him come back when he was available. Use some common sense, dingus.

They've been building up KENTA for months to be the one to take the belt off of him. This was before any "forbidden door" got opened. Maybe watch the actual shows instead of commenting on stuff you don't know about since you made it clear before you don't watch NJPW and the tirade you had about losing all respect for them because they committed the sin of working with Impact.

NJPW doesn't really do belt stripping if the person is not injured. Moxley's first reign ending via a belt strip was only due to a very unforeseen circumstance at the time. They didn't want to do it again with him which was part of the reason why they suspended the 6 months defense rule for all their belts early into the coronavirus pandemic.

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2021 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5429790)
They've been building up KENTA for months to be the one to take the belt off of him. This was before any "forbidden door" got opened. Maybe watch the actual shows instead of commenting on stuff you don't know about since you made it clear before you don't watch NJPW and the tirade you had about losing all respect for them because they committed the sin of working with Impact.

NJPW doesn't really do belt stripping if the person is not injured. Moxley's first reign ending via a belt strip was only due to a very unforeseen circumstance at the time. They didn't want to do it again with him which was part of the reason why they suspended the 6 months defense rule for all their belts early into the coronavirus pandemic.

No, they’ve built up KENTA for months to be a heel that loses to Mox before he drops the belt to guy they really want to use. That’s why KENTA lost. It’s not a grand shocker. I am evidently right because of what actually happened, not what a bunch of dweebs on the internet speculated would happen.

Don’t give a shit what New Japan does or doesn’t normally do. A typhoon is unforeseen circumstances yet coronavirus is something completely normal? Fuck off with that shit. If they wanted the US Title off Mox it would be off Mox. Stop being such a mark.

Lol, doesn’t matter if I watch or not. I was right. You can’t really discredit my opinion when it’s the correct one.

Emperor Smeat 02-27-2021 08:26 PM

The typhoon stuff was the reason NJPW gave since it happened too close to the date of their King of Pro Wrestling event and neither Moxley nor Zack Sabre Jr. were able to travel to Japan in time for the show because of travel issues with its aftermath.

Them stripping the belt was also due to them being unsure if Moxley would be able to compete at Wrestle Kingdom 14 or any events leading up to it due to his AEW commitments and didn't want to delay their WK plans for the US belt at the time.

The coornavirus stuff is different because NJPW announced early into it that no title stripping would be happening to any of their champs because of the pandemic. Plus they were not going to do back-to-back title stripping for Moxley since the last time they did it, it didn't really benefit Lance Archer nor Juice Robinson.

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2021 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5429798)
The typhoon stuff was the reason NJPW gave since it happened too close to the date of their King of Pro Wrestling event and neither Moxley nor Zack Sabre Jr. were able to travel to Japan in time for the show because of travel issues with its aftermath.

Them stripping the belt was also due to them being unsure if Moxley would be able to compete at Wrestle Kingdom 14 or any events leading up to it due to his AEW commitments and didn't want to delay their WK plans for the US belt at the time.

The coornavirus stuff is different because NJPW announced early into it that no title stripping would be happening to any of their champs because of the pandemic. Plus they were not going to do back-to-back title stripping for Moxley since the last time they did it, it didn't really benefit Lance Archer nor Juice Robinson.

Lol, that’s completely tangential and inconsequential to what I’m saying. I’m not disputing that they stripped Mox because of the typhoon. But they didn’t have to. I’m not saying they didn’t say they weren’t going to strip Mox this time. I’m saying they could have if they wanted to.


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