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Shadow 12-16-2009 06:47 PM

OH SHIT!

Blitz 12-16-2009 10:16 PM

Full Iron Man 2 trailer:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/

Shadow 12-16-2009 10:34 PM

OH FUCK YES!

Lock Jaw 12-17-2009 12:48 AM

I don't know if I can take a villain who looks like he is playing jump rope seriously. I probably can though.

Shadow 12-17-2009 01:04 AM

Whiplash will kill your ass. Just so you know.

Rammsteinmad 12-17-2009 11:51 AM

Looks awesome. Iron Man and War Machine fighting side-by-side :drool:

Kalyx triaD 12-17-2009 11:58 AM

This gets me horny for Avengers. It's gonna be a fiesta of craziness.

Jeritron 12-17-2009 12:02 PM

Bryan Singer confirms he's directing X-Men First Class.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=61682

Why couldn't it just be a regular X-Men movie?

Jon Kano 12-17-2009 12:08 PM

Yeah FFS carry on the fucking story to bigger and better things. Jesus.

Kalyx triaD 12-17-2009 12:26 PM

Glad to see Singer back, but rather have X4 than a prequel.

Jeritron 12-17-2009 12:29 PM

I can't blame him for not wanting to clean up the mess that X3 left though. I mean 3 of his main characters are disintegrated. Would be tough to get things back on track.

Jon Kano 12-17-2009 12:40 PM

Xavier coulda come back through that body on Muir Island that was suggested at the end?

And bring in two other main eventers, actors and characters.

But I know what you mean, too much of a mess to clean up. But still, if he doesn't do it now, it will never get done :(

Jeritron 12-17-2009 12:47 PM

I think they passed the point of no return. I don't know what possesed them to do that to the franchise, but at this point all they got left is spinoffs and prequels. I'm not a fan of them. They blew the whole thing up for the hell of it. It gave the franchise no real future. They easily could have waited a year or so for Singer to finish Superman.

Plus they're burning through mutants like crazy. What's the point? The way they used major characters like Gambit, Beast, and Collossus was pretty pointless. Juggernaut too. And they just forgot about Nightcrawler? He went back to the Munich Circus I suppose...

Jon Kano 12-17-2009 01:02 PM

Stop it, you're making me upset.

Jeritron 12-17-2009 01:03 PM

gonna watch X2 today

Jeritron 12-17-2009 01:08 PM

It's clear to see though. You watch a movie like that and you see characters like Stryker and Nightcrawler introduced. They pull their weight in a major way and are well developed. They actually contribute something to the movie.

Then you have the non-Singer sequels. They're just throwing mutants out there. Just an excuse to get them in the trailer and on the toy racks, really. Why's Gambit in Wolverine? Oh yea, he does a few card tricks and then gives Logan a lift.

Juggernaut is just randomly on a truck and they adopt him in the brotherhood. No relation to Magneto? Why would they not be after a guy like him sooner? He just kinda tags along.
Archangel was pretty terrible too.

Jeritron 12-17-2009 01:09 PM

Kelsey Grammer as Beast was a fantastic casting job, but he was very minimal in the plot. He should have been a center-peice of the plot like Wolverine and Rogue were in the first, and Nightcrawler in the second.

Kalyx triaD 12-17-2009 01:11 PM

Nightcrawler didn't stay because the X-Men led a violent life [/X-Men Official Game]. Still pretty lame.

I mean, even after X3 tried it's best to merc the series, there's still ways to go on after that. There's a lot of mutants they could have pooled to rebuild the cast, and even more stories worth adapting. And just like the comics, when in doubt - put Wolverine in it. Although I'd elect to have a new male lead (Josh Holloway as a grown up Gambit, and I'd practically let him write the contract himself) and of course... Sentinels (maybe the government got into the Danger Room's files and made prototypes based on what the mutants considered a challenge).

There's a lot of ways I would have taken it from X3, and I'm not a Hollywood writer. I'm assuming it's a not a creativity thing so much as a 'fresh start' thing. Which is weird because to continue the series from a reboot, you'll eventually tread on X1 and X2's territorial timeline... and then what? New Wolverine? Retold stories? Wolverine and by extension, Deadpool spun off the Singer verse. Fox clearly wants these features, their own continuity is looking skewed. Not that the lay man would care, these movies print money.

I just feel that if X-Men is to be rebooted at least let Marvel handle it and merge with their Avengers movie-verse.

Jeritron 12-17-2009 01:15 PM

There was so much left to do after the Phoenix saga too. As long as they kept Prof X and Cyclops in the game they could have done Appocalypse and Mr. Sinister.
Gambit and Beast obviously could have been introduced properly during this time.
And eventually Cable and Bishop could have been big hits.

Kalyx triaD 12-17-2009 01:20 PM

X3 was such a fucking mess franchise speaking. It wasn't even that bad a movie, but from a continuity standpoint - it just has weird story decisions. Who would kill Cyclops? They tried too many 'third movie must be epic' beats that they didn't have to, wasting characters and forcing plots (Rogue comes off weak).

Jeritron 12-17-2009 01:26 PM

Yea that's how I felt. I mean it was entertaining. They were just throwing bells and whistles at us, but it was watchable. Nowhere near as good as Singer's movies, but it wasn't Ghost Rider bad or anything. The only problem was there were these shocking moments where Prof X and Cyclops die and it's just like, "why?"
It's not always a good thing.

LuigiD 12-17-2009 01:26 PM

I agree with X3...
god..what an epic disappointment. I think the whole X-men movie franchise has been a disappointment. X2 was the most tolerable in my opinion. Nightcrawler was a fucking pussy in the movies. With the exception of a few character portrayals( speaking mostly for Wolverine), the whole thing is a fucking waste of time. I am all for a reboot.
By the way..how come the White Queen just looked like some lame ass from Portland, Oregon in Wolverine: Origins? The White Queen has always been hot as hell.

Kalyx triaD 12-17-2009 01:30 PM

Being that Origins takes place way back when, I didn't mind White Queen or Gambit. Between then and X3 they could easily have evolved into their comic versions (or as close as they could be).

Jon Kano 12-17-2009 01:38 PM

I agree with everything you guys just put.

Thinking about it, yinno what, I actually wouldn't care, would love it, and would see it as a brass yet awesome move if Singer just turned to the fans and said, 'yinno what, X3 was fucking shit, this is how it was supposed to of been done' - I mean its rarely done right, but how cool would it be if he just said 'I'm re-making, re-doing X3' - I'll fuckin pay to see it, and I know I'd prob love it.

Skippord 12-17-2009 04:07 PM

I'd like an X-Men movie with Mr. Sinister


by like I mean I would be incredibly super excited. just throwing that out there

Indifferent Clox 12-18-2009 10:24 PM

I made a comic about this guy who was really old and like upwards of 120 and he had been told by a doctor that he wouldn't live if he was struck very hard by a blow again. The doctor emphasizes this because the man is a warrior with many enemies, so his age is particularly intriguing.

The comic was about his last 10 days, but time skips quite randomly so it's interesting to see how it spread across ten comics. Much like my other comic about the guy whose superpowered bioengieneered advancements are found in others chosen by this crime boss. T

Indifferent Clox 12-18-2009 10:27 PM

And by much like I mean in length not premise.

Rammsteinmad 12-21-2009 01:23 PM

I think they should carry on the francise. Come on, they got Beast, Collosus, Storm, Iceman, Kitty Pryde, Wolverine, Angel, maybe Phoenix could come back and bring Cyclops with her? My point is that they've got the characters to build up a strong team. Maybe bring back Nightcrawler as well.

I'd love to see X4 with Apocalypse in it. Maybe Phoenix would come back to help the losing X-Men beat the big A, kinda like in Ultimate X-Men.

Rammsteinmad 12-21-2009 01:29 PM

Here's a pic I found that someone did on Photoshop. It's 'The Rock' Dwanyne Johnson as Apocalypse. Looks pretty cool IMO.

http://www.khanada.org/casting/TheRockApocalypse.jpg

Reavant 12-21-2009 02:29 PM

james earl jones as apocalypse would be perfect

Reavant 12-21-2009 02:30 PM

cgi'ing his head ojn the rocks body of course

Kalyx triaD 12-21-2009 03:53 PM

I would hate to have Apocalypse actually look like his comic form.

Reavant 12-21-2009 06:01 PM

would you rather have him be a shapless cloud?

Kalyx triaD 12-21-2009 08:54 PM

I'm almost certain there's something between his comic form and a fucking cloud. Degrees, people.

Rammsteinmad 12-21-2009 09:50 PM

If he looked more like Apocalypse from the Ultimate universe it'd be pretty cool.

Reavant 12-22-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2868707)
I'm almost certain there's something between his comic form and a fucking cloud. Degrees, people.

well these people making the movies dont see it that way

Kalyx triaD 12-23-2009 11:02 AM

BarakaPool

Reavant 12-23-2009 02:24 PM

and you were happy with that?

Lock Jaw 12-23-2009 02:43 PM

Kick-Ass is looking pretty kick-ass.

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Rammsteinmad 12-24-2009 10:55 AM

Wow, I've not ever heard of this Kick-Ass movie, but that looks pretty sweet!


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