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Arnold HamNegger 06-26-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
That's a point. Work your ass off day in and day out, push your body to its limits, literally break your neck for the company, and then watch Mark Henry in the main event while you are stuck in backstage skits timing your pissings while working a midcard program with a guy that they plan on handing a "bixesual love triangle" gimmick to. That would fuck with anyones head.

Yeah, I know people always argue that wrestlers don't mind there standing in the company if they get a fat paycheck...but I think that's bullshit. These guys are competitive as hell by nature, all professional athletes are. If I'm getting $1 million a year, but am a bench warmer to a guy that I know in my heart I'm better than, it's gonna effect me eventually.

If often wondered what the mental state of mind of some of these wrestlers are when they bust there ass, yet politics get in the way of them getting the limelight/push/promotions they feel they deserve. This happens in jobs all over the world and people do end up doing awful things.

Who knows, maybe the demotion to ECW was the last straw for him? The timing of all this is pretty ironic. Still though, if it was work related...you'd think he would have killed someone in WWE...not his wife and kid. None of this makes any sense, so who knows? Noone will probably ever know what his motives were.

BigDaddyCool 06-26-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
Maybe she wouldnt submit.

God you are a jackass.

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 02:10 PM

Even the strongest woman or even man, can grow weak when it comes threats when it comes from someone they love. Especially if the person has been given a sense of security and comfort for years, they know they should do something about the predictiment they are in, but they love the person too much to leave them like that.

Sometimes, unfortunately, it really is "until death do us part."

St. Jimmy 06-26-2007 02:11 PM

Next person to say "Canadian Strangler" Chris Benoit, is going to be beaten.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 02:12 PM

<TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"><TBODY><TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"><TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off">You know, Kalyx was right. I'm sorry, but he was. When he said "you don't just snap over the weekend". He went home, killed his wife and son in a calm, organized manner. Even more chilling, is that he did it over a period of a couple days and was in touch with the company about not making the ppv, texted wrestlers, and may have actually sat down and watched it with his son. It's fucked up. But this isn't a flip out or a momentary snap moment where it all happens fast. He did it, did it again 24 hours later, and lived with it for a day.

Normally in these situations it happens in a fit of rage quickly and with no organization, and then immediately panic sets in and the suicide occurs. This was a 3 day weekend of terror. I've said it a million times, but its like something out of The Shining. It's absolutely terrifying. It was pure evil and insanity and just sheer terror to be honest. It's sickening.
I don't know what to say, maybe Chris Benoit was or lived as a good man. But he had it within him to do this, and he did it. Theres no shortcuts around it.
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Theo Dious 06-26-2007 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Jimmy
Next person to say "Canadian Strangler" Chris Benoit, is going to be beaten.

...has ANYONE said it? :wtf:

Extreme Angle 06-26-2007 02:14 PM

So how did he actually kill himself?

RP 06-26-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Jimmy
Next person to say "Canadian Strangler" Chris Benoit, is going to be beaten.


:lol:

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 02:14 PM

Why do I see all this turning into a Law and Order plotline?

Azriel 06-26-2007 02:14 PM

Blitz, I'm sure it's going to be on CNN and MSNBC, etc.

St. Jimmy 06-26-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
...has ANYONE said it? :wtf:

Not here man, other places.

Kane Knight 06-26-2007 02:15 PM

ATLANTA (AP) -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press Tuesday.
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Fuck wikipedia.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 02:16 PM

Well this is the only place that matters!

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 02:18 PM

Anyway, I really wish they'd hurry with the investigation ASAP.

My final speculation is that for whatever reason the wife was premeditated. He killed her Saturday and stashed her upstairs waiting to dump the body. Acted calm and normal around his son and everybody else. Sunday, panic set in, didn't know what to do, maybe the son discovered the mothers body? I dont think so but by Sunday evening Chris knew he couldn't get away with it and rather than going to jail he took his own life, and the life of his son so that his son wouldn't wake up to his parent's corpses.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 02:19 PM

I'm just so disgusted. Anything with Chris Benoit that I had is sitting in my trash can right now. I wish I could delete his matches and likeness from my dvds....

I don't think I'm being rash either...

Marc the Smark 06-26-2007 02:19 PM

"The Crippler," "The Rabid Wolverine" - Such creepy names considering all that's gone down, huh?

Destor 06-26-2007 02:20 PM

I still love Benoit.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
I'm just so disgusted. Anything with Chris Benoit that I had is sitting in my trash can right now. I wish I could delete his matches and likeness from my dvds....

I don't think I'm being rash either...

Throwing people under the bus: the new American pasttime.

Can we PLEASE wait for some actual confirmation instead of just stupid media leaks?!

Marc the Smark 06-26-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
My final speculation is that for whatever reason the wife was premeditated. He killed her Saturday and stashed her upstairs waiting to dump the body.

Maybe roid rage, maybe she wanted another divorce, maybe both... but whatever the reason he flipped out.

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but by Sunday evening Chris knew he couldn't get away with it and rather than going to jail he took his own life, and the life of his son so that his son wouldn't wake up to his parent's corpses.
But did he take the son's life so that the son wouldn't have to live without parents, or did he take the son's life so that the son could not turn him into the police?

St. Jimmy 06-26-2007 02:22 PM

Benoit the wrestler is an amazing man. Beniot the human... well, I don't respect those who die of suicide, especially alleged murderers of women and children.

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 02:25 PM

Chris Benoit's here and he's really mad.
Chris Benoit's here and he's really aaannngrrryy.
Here's his song, the Chris Benoit song.
Is there anyone who can prove him wrrrooonng?

Jeritron 06-26-2007 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
Throwing people under the bus: the new American pasttime.

Can we PLEASE wait for some actual confirmation instead of just stupid media leaks?!

You know, I'll wait and hold off my anger til it's announced in the next hour or so. But stop convincing yourself that this all isn't happen. Reality should set in at some point. It has for me.

Cactus Sid 06-26-2007 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
Chris Benoit's here and he's really mad.
Chris Benoit's here and he's really aaannngrrryy.
Here's his song, the Chris Benoit song.
Is there anyone who can prove him wrrrooonng?

Ah, a mate of mine rang me up earlier and started saying that

Odd, because earlier I was thinking of exactly the same thing :-\

Arnold HamNegger 06-26-2007 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
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Normally in these situations it happens in a fit of rage quickly and with no organization, and then immediately panic sets in and the suicide occurs. This was a 3 day weekend of terror. I've said it a million times, but its like something out of The Shining. It's absolutely terrifying. It was pure evil and insanity and just sheer terror to be honest. It's sickening.
I don't know what to say, maybe Chris Benoit was or lived as a good man. But he had it within him to do this, and he did it. Theres no shortcuts around it.
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Yeah, this is totally like something out of The Shining.

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 02:29 PM

Okay seriously, the sheriff said the investigators found "nothing out of the ordinary."

Sooo wouldn't that rule out Benoit hanging himself?

I mean surely you walk into a weight room and see a guy hanging from a rope lifeless, you immediately think "oh nothing major here, just a dead guy hanging from a rope."

BigDaddyCool 06-26-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Jimmy
Benoit the wrestler is an amazing man. Beniot the human... well, I don't respect those who die of suicide, especially alleged murderers of women and children.

Fuck that shit. Killing women and children is nothing compared to killing your wife and your child.

Marc the Smark 06-26-2007 02:32 PM

Do we know for sure that the murder of Nancy Benoit and her son was pre-meditated? Do we know what Benoit, who always gave 110 percent to entertain us and feed his family, was thinking when he committed the murders? I agree that his actions were despicable, but obviously a guy who would kill his own flesh and blood is also a sick, sick man. I just don't think it's black and white, like most of you seem to think, and I don't think hating what he did should mean that we have to hate Chris Benoit the person.

St. Jimmy 06-26-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Fuck that shit. Killing women and children is nothing compared to killing your wife and your child.

I'm trying not to judge until it's official. I'm really trying.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
You know, I'll wait and hold off my anger til it's announced in the next hour or so. But stop convincing yourself that this all isn't happen. Reality should set in at some point. It has for me.

In another hour we'll have official statements from police on what happened, how, and maybe why. It seems to me that we're missing a vital piece here to understand what happened, no matter which way it turns out. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm just saying I want to know more than this before I fling anything I have with Benoit on it out the window.

BigDaddyCool 06-26-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
Okay seriously, the sheriff said the investigators found "nothing out of the ordinary."

Sooo wouldn't that rule out Benoit hanging himself?

I mean surely you walk into a weight room and see a guy hanging from a rope lifeless, you immediately think "oh nothing major here, just a dead guy hanging from a rope."

Totally oridnary.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott
Do we know for sure that the murder of Nancy Benoit and her son was pre-meditated? Do we know what Benoit, who always gave 110 percent to entertain us and feed his family, was thinking when he committed the murders? I agree that his actions were despicable, but obviously a guy who would kill his own flesh and blood is also a sick, sick man. I just don't think it's black and white, like most of you seem to think, and I don't think hating what he did should mean that we have to hate Chris Benoit the person.

Yeah, what the guy in the skirt said.
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Wait, thats Scott, not Scot...?

Jeritron 06-26-2007 02:35 PM

Look, I hope this isn't true as much as the next guy. But at some point you gotta stop deluding ourselves. Chris Benoit had 5 star matches, Chris Benoit was a hero to all of us, Chris Benoit killed his family over a 3 day period of madness. Chris Benoit sucks.

If you can get past that because you don't want to part with the image of your idol, or you don't want the matches you watch all the time ruined, then lie to yourselves or rationalize. Thats your own decisions. But at some point reality steps in. It's absolutely dispicable. Chris Benoit still a legend? Tell that to his 7 year old son who will never experience life, and to everyone who thought they knew and loved him

I want to be pinched and wake up, but some nightmares are real and this is one of them

RP 06-26-2007 02:36 PM

CNN is taking the conference live when it happens for those still wondering.

Kane Knight 06-26-2007 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
I'm just so disgusted. Anything with Chris Benoit that I had is sitting in my trash can right now. I wish I could delete his matches and likeness from my dvds....

I don't think I'm being rash either...

:roff:

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
Look, I hope this isn't true as much as the next guy. But at some point you gotta stop deluding ourselves. Chris Benoit had 5 star matches, Chris Benoit was a hero to all of us, Chris Benoit killed his family over a 3 day period of madness. Chris Benoit sucks.

So if it turns out he was suffering from some form of mental illness that completely impaired his sense of reality, you still will pronounce the man and his life and doings completely worthless?

BigDaddyCool 06-26-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
Look, I hope this isn't true as much as the next guy. But at some point you gotta stop deluding ourselves. Chris Benoit had 5 star matches, Chris Benoit was a hero to all of us, Chris Benoit killed his family over a 3 day period of madness. Chris Benoit sucks.

If you can get past that because you don't want to part with the image of your idol, or you don't want the matches you watch all the time ruined, then lie to yourselves or rationalize. Thats your own decisions. But at some point reality steps in. It's absolutely dispicable. Chris Benoit still a legend? Tell that to his 7 year old son who will never experience life, and to everyone who thought they knew and loved him

I want to be pinched and wake up, but some nightmares are real and this is one of them

He wasn't my hero. How many times do I have to say that. Don't speak for everyone is you are not everyone.

Cactus Sid 06-26-2007 02:41 PM

Just read this, don't know if this was posted previously, if it is I apologise, it is a statement from district attorney's office.

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Yesterday afternoon at 2:30 pm, the Fayette County Sheriff’s Office received a call from someone affiliated with the wrestling community concerned with Chris Benoit and the fact that he had not appeared for a scheduled event. In response to that call the Fayette County Deputies went to the residence located at 130 Green Meadow Lane in Fayette County and discovered three deceased bodies, Chris Benoit, Nancy Benoit and their 7 year old son.

All preliminary indications suggest that it was a murder/suicide. Out of an abundance of caution every possible scenario is under investigation.

Details concerning the manner of death and times and other details will require confirmation of the lab results and the completion of the autopsies. Our hope is that the autopsy reports will be complete today. The GBI Crime Lab is working diligently on this case but do have many other cases as well.

At this time a press conference has been scheduled for this afternoon at 3:00 pm eastern time in front of the Benoit home.
I don't know what information has officially been released since this, obviously the indications are still very much that of a murder-suicide, but until this is confirmed by the investigative bodies, its not an open and shut case.

The Ravishing One 06-26-2007 02:41 PM

Sky Sports News is broadcasting the press conference for anybody in the UK @ 8pm.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 02:45 PM

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At this time a press conference has been scheduled for this afternoon at 3:00 pm eastern time in front of the Benoit home.
I hope they left the dogs there, I'd love to see some CNN news hack get the seat of his pants ripped off by a German Shepherd. :rofl:

Marc the Smark 06-26-2007 02:46 PM

Do we know for sure that the murder of Nancy Benoit and her son was pre-meditated? Do we know what Benoit, who always gave 110 percent to entertain us and feed his family, was thinking when he committed the murders?


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