17 is more than can be reasonably pushed at anyone time to any meaningful result

They never touched again. Lol

Am I misremembering the fact that they had a relatively long feud following the turn that ended with MJF beating Cody or is dumb fuck choosing his preferred version of reality to bitch about again?

That is a superb point.

Why does everyone need to be pushed?

they dont. infact its impossible to push someone without it at the expense of others. my point is if you bring in 17 guys in order to get your money back it has to be at the expense of the talent you had on hand prior.

or you can use the name talent to build the preexisting talent. theyve done a bit of both but more of the former than the later.

which is to say AEW has absolutely brought in a ton of wwe cast offs contrary to their alleged motives operandi

and they were right to do so. their claim they wouldnt was grandstanding. it was the pomeranian barking at the pitbull. their success has dwarfed their expectations. when they said what they said they didnt think theyd have the option to get the talent theyve gotten. it was very easy to say it.

but lets be real. it was always bullshit even before it became false in hindsight

I dont think anyone would argue that AEW's roster is bloated due to all the signings, but they kinda had to, or else theyd have to keep putting people like Luthor, Janela, and the librarian on tv.

they absolutely made the right choice. they shouldn't be faulted for it. its not like the wwe wouldnt steal a top talent whos contract is up from them given the chance (and promptly bury them.) but its fair to point to their PR statements and call bull shit too.

if they had backed the talent they had out of the gate theyd have never grown beyond 400k weekly viewers

And all it took was quintupling their budget :rofl:

17% when you get to AEW low numbers isn’t even that impressive. It’s about 17k buys worldwide.

AEW should have absolutely gone after top talent. I would have expected even more to go had the promotion not been a mess earlier (think there’s a real chance they could have gotten Orton and Styles, for example). But they shouldn’t have said they weren’t going to. You’re right calling it grandstanding.

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I like Danhausen as a youtube personality, but I dont need to see him putting curses on people in an actual wrestling show.

Bingo.

I agree, wrestling should be serious and there just isn’t room for that sort of carry on. What next, some kind of “deadman” competing and winning titles maybe. Ridiculous. :shifty:

his ginmick was ridiculous. his character was serious

I love Danhausen. That’s my only thought on the matter at the moment.

There’s also something to be said about this. Subtlety is a wonderful thing sometimes.

Other times, straight ridiculousness reigns supreme.

i don't mind how danhausen and his cursing have been used so far. now if he's using curses to win titles... we can talk then.

There’s also something to be said about his curses not being ACTUAL curses but still being effective.

This sliding scale is used to justify everything. At least Orange Cassidy isn’t in main events. At least The Dark Order aren’t in main events. At least Brodie Lee’s kid is a one-off thing. They all invariably turn out to be false. They creep up there.

When something is stupid, it just doesn’t belong in the program period. I don’t know where this “at least it’s only in this spot” justification for nonsense comes from.

i've never said that about anyone other than danhausen. take it up with someone else.

Watched a few of his YouTube things to see what all the "hubbub" was about, and I can't even give him that one.

That’s funny because part of his gimmick is “Won’t somebody think of the children”.

he may be into curses, but he's not into cursing!

He’s very nice. Very evil.

Fuck what their books look like. I’m just trying to be entertained.

How about that time MJF randomly turned on Cody and they never touched again in Noid’s imagination? How shitty was THAT storytelling!?!? LOL FUCKING TONY KHAN.

If only Noid hadn't blocked a majority of the wrestling forum :roll:

He's more or less happy in his echo chamber like a frog who's never seen the outside of his mother's basement.

I think the line we seem to draw on seriousness in wrestling is bizzare thats all. Deadman (and all that entails) legend of the business, silly guy pretending to put a curse on someone is too far though.

Maybe Danhausen needs to shoot lighting from his hands when he curses and have a 19 min intro that includes him taking off a hat while someone swings on the dimmer switch.

This sub eating up the Fiend with a spoon is another example of the silliness we will accept from more recent times.

these are silly comparisons, really. taker and bray were meant to taken seriously and presented themselves as such even at the most ridiculous. danhausen is meant to be comedy and plays it that way and it is inherently ridiculous. i understand not everyone likes comedy in their wrestling. i think it has its place. but yeah different games being played by these guys.

yeah he's a comedy gimmick. anyone he goes over is humiliated. they lost to a joke. should he win a title? no. he shouldn win a match let alone a title.

I have no issue with him being billed as comedy, whether he should win a match or not is probably another conversation. If the fans cheer for it theres probably a will and a way he should win at least on occasion.

Personally I have a far easier time with Danhausen as an out and out comedy act in the show than I do with taking The Fiend seriously.

Here’s an idea: They both suck.

Here's a better idea: They both rule and Noid is a jabroni.

I liked the idea of the fiend. A sunshine and rainbows guy with a split personality thats a psycho killer. But they made it dumb by throwing in all the magical teleportation and possession crap.