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ClockShot 12-15-2010 02:49 PM

Hughes & Montero should get it done. But I want Seattle to eat some money.

/wishful thinking

Loose Cannon 12-15-2010 04:41 PM

no way on Hughes. They would just be trading one good pitcher for another. Hughes is not as good as Felix is right now, but I think he will be an Ace is a few years.

Trading Hughes for Felix just puts them back where they are.

Innovator 12-15-2010 04:49 PM

Exactly. And Cano....yeah that's not happening.

Aguakate 12-15-2010 05:22 PM

The Mariners are not going to trade Felix. I think they'd rather trade Ichiro.

Innovator 12-15-2010 05:26 PM

It'd be stupid for Seattle to trade one of the two main draws they have, can't stop me from dreaming.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-15-2010 06:48 PM

I might even trade Hughes for Hernandez. But, it either or if you want Montero package you can't have Hughes and if they want a Hughes package they can't have Montero. Cano is out of the question.

We do have a lot of good young pitching talent so if all they wanted was like Hughes and maybe 1 or 2 single A guys it's kinda stupid not to do it.

Let's say the Mariners came up and said Hughes straight up for Hernandez ? I'd do it because we do have quite a few good minor league pitchers who'd do us good in the rotation. I love Hughes. But this is King Felix we are talking about.

But, it's never gonna happen that way.................ever.

Droford 12-15-2010 07:20 PM

Derrek Lee to the Padres

I have no idea who the Orioles are going to have at 1B

ClockShot 12-15-2010 09:18 PM

Rich Harden to the A's. 1-year, $1.5 mil.

Matt Guerrier to the Dodgers. 3-years, $12 mil.

Randy Choate to the Marlins. 2-years, $2.5 mil.

Aguakate 12-15-2010 10:56 PM

Wow, didn't know the Red Sox got Joe Blanton. That might turn out to be a good deal for Boston.

Loose Cannon 12-15-2010 11:24 PM

Bob Feller passes away at 92.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-15-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3357972)
Wow, didn't know the Red Sox got Joe Blanton. That might turn out to be a good deal for Boston.

Where did you see this? I am checking all around and don't see any links.

Jeritron 12-15-2010 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 3357989)
Bob Feller passes away at 92.

Bob Feller was/is the fucking man

Aguakate 12-16-2010 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J (Post 3357993)
Where did you see this? I am checking all around and don't see any links.

Ok, the deal fell through. They had conversations, but it never materialized.

The information came as a result of Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal.

http://www.nesn.com/2010/12/report-r...-phillies.html

Hardkore Kidd J 12-16-2010 12:04 AM

I wonder if Joe Blanton will be traded before the season starts. If the Phillies want to get rid of Blanton how much prospect wise ya think it will cost the Yankees? Or do you think they should steer clear of him?

Aguakate 12-16-2010 12:08 AM

Yankees should try to get him, I mean...if they take get Blanton, and somehow convince Pettitte to come back, their rotation won't be bad at all.

Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, Blanton, Hughes.

Not bad.

Also, puzzling as to why they'd sign Mark Prior and Russell Martin. I don't get those two deals. Prior's arm couldn't handle the NL, I don't think he'll do well in the AL, unless he becomes a reliever.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-16-2010 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3358023)
Yankees should try to get him, I mean...if they take get Blanton, and somehow convince Pettitte to come back, their rotation won't be bad at all.

Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, Blanton, Hughes.

Not bad.

Also, puzzling as to why they'd sign Mark Prior and Russell Martin. I don't get those two deals. Prior's arm couldn't handle the NL, I don't think he'll do well in the AL, unless he becomes a reliever.

Can't hurt really since he has a minor league deal. I would have said Prior could be an 8th inning guy but Kerry Wood has been doing Ok at that. I don't pay much attention though for all I know Wood is a free agent.

And don't worry if things go right Romine, or Montero will have more time as catcher then Martin.

Aguakate 12-16-2010 12:29 AM

Wood is a free agent still, I think.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-16-2010 12:33 AM

[quote=Aguakate;3358036]Wood is a free agent still, I think.[/quoted]

Yes, the White Sox tried to sign him on a 2 year deal. But I think that died after they got Jesse Crain. They needed a 7th, and 8th, inning guy who could sometimes pitch the 9th. And Crain seems to be that guy.

DaveWadding 12-16-2010 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3358023)
. Prior's arm couldn't handle Dusty Baker


glanville6 12-16-2010 01:00 AM

Kerry Wood is close to coming back to the Cubs!!!!!!!!!!!

And was sad to hear about Bob Feller. Great guy.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-16-2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3357796)
Derrek Lee to the Padres

I have no idea who the Orioles are going to have at 1B

Well they could still go after LaRoche I think. How good are Mahoney and Snyder? Maybe they have a lot of faith in one of them.

Emperor Smeat 12-16-2010 01:11 AM

MLB Network spent a few good minutes discussing how the Yankees could make a move for Carlos Zambrano either this offseason or next year.

The biggest issue is Yankees don't want to eat up most of the $55 million left since the Cubs won't be willing to pay and his price range as a #3 starter since they don't see him fitting as a #1 or #2.

Only reason it came up was due to Yankees making deals for Pryor and Zambrano hinted if he had to leave, Yankees would be a good option.

glanville6 12-16-2010 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3358106)
MLB Network spent a few good minutes discussing how the Yankees could make a move for Carlos Zambrano either this offseason or next year.

The biggest issue is Yankees don't want to eat up most of the $55 million left since the Cubs won't be willing to pay and his price range as a #3 starter since they don't see him fitting as a #1 or #2.

Only reason it came up was due to Yankees making deals for Pryor and Zambrano hinted if he had to leave, Yankees would be a good option.



I wonder how fans from both sides of this would feel about AJ Burnett straight up for Zambrano.

I want Zambrano gone. And even better, out of the NL

Aguakate 12-16-2010 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glanville6 (Post 3358086)
Kerry Wood is close to coming back to the Cubs!!!!!!!!!!!

And was sad to hear about Bob Feller. Great guy.

I hope Wood does become a Cub again.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-16-2010 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3358124)
I hope Wood does become a Cub again.

You do? I hope he stays with the Yankees as our 8th inning guy. But we do have quite a few ready minor leaguers or Prior who could do an ok job as 7th, and 8th guy I guess.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-16-2010 07:56 AM

I hope Zambrano never leaves the Cubs.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-16-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3358509)
I hope Zambrano never leaves the Cubs.

In a way I hope that too. The Cubs is really the place where he should be.

dablackguy 12-16-2010 08:18 AM

Zambrano to the Yankees is a terrible idea. Walking 4 batters per 9 in the AL East is a great way to a 5 ERA

Supreme Olajuwon 12-16-2010 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J (Post 3358512)
In a way I hope that too. The Cubs is really the place where he should be.

I should rephrase. I hope Zambrano never stops sabotaging the Cubs.

Splaya 12-16-2010 03:29 PM

Tigers sign Magglio Ordonez to a 1 year 10 million dollar deal.

Emperor Smeat 12-16-2010 04:05 PM

Red Sox sign Bobby Jenks to 2 year $12 million deal with incentives to become a full-time closer should Papelbon end up being traded or looses his spot as the closer during Spring Training.

Its expected for now he will be the setup man or at least split time with Bard for the spot.

Innovator 12-16-2010 04:37 PM

Papelbon, we'll give you ten dollars and #41.

MVP 12-16-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3358958)
Red Sox sign Bobby Jenks to 2 year $12 million deal with incentives to become a full-time closer should Papelbon end up being traded or looses his spot as the closer during Spring Training.

Its expected for now he will be the setup man or at least split time with Bard for the spot.

I like this since last year it seemed like Bard and/or Papelbon had to pitch almost every game cause Okajima and Ramirez made 5 run leads turn into 1-2 run leads. Hopefully Papelbon doesn't pull a hissy fit this time like he did when the Red Sox acquired Eric Gagne and again when they acquired Billy Wagner.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-16-2010 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 3359036)
I like this since last year it seemed like Bard and/or Papelbon had to pitch almost every game cause Okajima and Ramirez made 5 run leads turn into 1-2 run leads. Hopefully Papelbon doesn't pull a hissy fit this time like he did when the Red Sox acquired Eric Gagne and again when they acquired Billy Wagner.

You know before everyone thought when the Red Sox offered Mariano a contract that it was a ploy for the Yankees to pay more for him. Now, I see they did w ant him so Papelbon could be gone. I say by the trading deadline Papelbon is traded any takers?

Let's say Hypothetically Papelbon is traded at the dead line. You think Jenks will be the closer? I think Bard may not be ready for the closer role yet.

Now, The Red Sox scare the shit out of me.

ClockShot 12-16-2010 08:20 PM

Twins agree to terms with japanese player Tsuyoshi Nishioka. 3-years, $10 mil.

Chien-Ming Wang goes back to the Nationals. 1-year, $1 mil. with incentives that could get him up to $5 mil.

A few details of Zach Greinke's contract came out for those interested in trading up for him. He has block power on 15 teams. With the Yankees, Red Sox and Nationals included. Tigers, Angels, and the Rangers are not.

And finally, with all pretty much a signing each day, the Red Sox pass the Yankees for highest payroll in MLB. Remember, they still gotta hammer out a deal with A-Gon in the spring.

MVP 12-16-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J (Post 3359166)
You know before everyone thought when the Red Sox offered Mariano a contract that it was a ploy for the Yankees to pay more for him. Now, I see they did w ant him so Papelbon could be gone. I say by the trading deadline Papelbon is traded any takers?

Let's say Hypothetically Papelbon is traded at the dead line. You think Jenks will be the closer? I think Bard may not be ready for the closer role yet.

Now, The Red Sox scare the shit out of me.

My guess is that if Jenks is pitching well he'd be the closer, but Bard has been touted as the closer of the future since he came up in 2009 so I don't think Jenks would have the role permanently.

Evil Vito 12-16-2010 09:41 PM

<font color=goldenrod>One of my Yankee fan friends feeld like the Red Sox offering Mariano a deal gives him a new reason to hate them.

Yeah, fuck them for trying to make their team better! I'm sure they knew he wouldn't accept, but no harm in trying since it made the Yanks offer more anyway.</font>

Triple Naitch 12-16-2010 11:09 PM

Yeah because the Yankees would never do that or anything. (see: Johnny Damon)

Hardkore Kidd J 12-16-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 3359237)
My guess is that if Jenks is pitching well he'd be the closer, but Bard has been touted as the closer of the future since he came up in 2009 so I don't think Jenks would have the role permanently.

I know ! Trust me I have seen how Bard is. But, in my honest opinion that would be like making Eduardo Nunuz leap into being a short stop for the season. How old is Bard like 21? He's still got some time to being the closer. They should switch them from time to time. And then by the time of Jenks contract ends in 2012 Bard will be an amazing closer.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3359265)
One of my Yankee fan friends feeld like the Red Sox offering Mariano a deal gives him a new reason to hate them.



One question, do you think that some Red Sox fans didn't feel the same way when the Yankees signed Johnny Damon? I know, it's not really the same thing but, I bet you that gave some of them a new reason to hate the Yankees.

Evil Vito 12-17-2010 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J (Post 3359399)
One question, do you think that some Red Sox fans didn't feel the same way when the Yankees signed Johnny Damon? I know, it's not really the same thing but, I bet you that gave some of them a new reason to hate the Yankees.

<font color=goldenrod>I don't see why that would make the Red Sox fans hate the Yankees as much as it would make them hate Johnny himself. Being a beloved player and jumping to your top rival is perfectly reasonable grounds to put the player on your shitlist (especially in Damon's case when he had said throughout that season that the Yanks weren't his kind of team). But the team can hardly be faulted for wanting to make their team better.

Much like Jeter, seeing Mo in a Red Sox uni would have been a total mindfuck. No doubt either man would become public enemy #1 and get booed mercilessly at the first game in New York. It'd all be forgiven once they retired, though.</font>


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