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Mr. Nerfect 10-15-2015 09:07 PM

Nice. It is something. I don't understand why the WWE isn't still using Zeb Colter. The man was such a pleasure on the mic.

Mr. Nerfect 10-15-2015 09:11 PM

It actually really bothers me how the WWE has squandered Jack Swagger. No, the guy isn't perfect. There's something that doesn't really "click" about the guy. Part of it is his booking, sure, but maybe he also appears a little too "clean," if you know what I mean? But the guy is so fucking crisp in the ring. He looks good whether he's putting a beating on a guy or taking one (I'm genuinely surprised at how sympathetic he is working face). He was really hurt by not getting *anything* over Rusev, I think. No, I don't think he should have "decisively won the feud" or anything like that; but one win here to get some revenge for Zeb would have been nice.

The shtick where Colter would slap Swagger in the face to psych him up was actually pretty over. People reacted to it. There's still hope for the guy to do something, but they just seem afraid to give him any sort of sustained credibility.

Mr. Nerfect 10-15-2015 09:13 PM

I'm still behind the idea of a Cesaro/Ziggler tag team. If you have no designs to use either of them in a major singles capacity, then why not put them together and let them bounce off each other for a while. Dolph is a tremendous seller that people care about; Cesaro is great at showing fire on comebacks. Dolph has got personality and might help to bring it out of Cesaro.

Mr. Nerfect 10-15-2015 09:16 PM

Cesaro would also be killing it in this program against The Wyatts. It would have made perfect sense to inject him as a guy looking to prove himself. He's teamed with Dean Ambrose in the past (and they had great chemistry, as Cesaro seems to have with almost everyone), and having the balls to stand up to The Wyatt Family without having a real personal issue with them could earn the ire of Bray Wyatt and have been used as a segue to get Wyatt off Reigns in the future. Plus, Bray could subtly put Cesaro over for being someone who went after Wyatt instead of vice versa.

Mr. Nerfect 10-15-2015 09:16 PM

Cesaro vs. Luke Harper? Yes please.

erickman 10-15-2015 09:18 PM

yeah we had a swagger sighting in the lumberjack match, I wish he and zev would move to nxt let him tag with james storm

Mr. Nerfect 10-15-2015 09:45 PM

A Storm/Swagger tag team would have an interesting dynamic, that's for sure.

Mr. Nerfect 10-15-2015 09:53 PM

I know plans are probably to run Finn Balor vs. Samoa Joe through the fall and into the winter, but Joe coming up to win the US Title from Cena would make a lot of sense for the main roster right now. The ratings are slipping, so they could use a bit of an infusion of fresh blood. There are mumbles that The Rock might be coming back to do some stuff -- but is he going to be on RAW every week? The thing with the part-timers is that they don't always have that episodic presence.

I'm not saying Joe would be an instant ratings fix or change the game entirely; but he would shake things up and introduce a full-time guy with the presence of being a real player -- especially if he beats John Cena at Hell in a Cell or something. They would never do this, but if they had Joe force Cena to tap-out? Man, that would be hectic. Cena could use the tapping as an excuse to "find himself." He lives by the mantra "Never Give Up," but along came a new cat that made him do just that. Joe is a long-time friend and a guy who broke into the business with him, and he has utmost respect for Joe, but he needs to move away in order to come back the John Cena he knows he can be.

This could also be used as a springboard for Cena vs. Taker, if that's the route they want to go for WrestleMania. Cena needing to find something to prove himself could be a huge motivator in challenging the legend to a match at the big show.

The thing with Joe is that he's no spring chicken. He's 36, which is around when they say workers put it all together in the ring the best, but given the style guys work these days, it might be a bit earlier than that. There's no real sense in "holding off" on Joe. If you want the guy to return the investment you've put in him (which, granted, may not be huge right now), then giving him a big rub and making him a player out the gate is probably the best way to do it. The guy's also got a presentation that lends itself to lots of merchandise. Maybe it won't be as colorful as Cena's, but it could be pumped out -- shirts, towels, wrist-bands, etc. He could be presented as humble enough to be liked by the kids (and respected by them, especially if Cena gives him the nod and taps out), and he's cool and edgy enough to keep the older demographics tuning in. He could pretty much be what they want Roman Reigns to be, only admittedly less ripped (although his look works for him).

Mr. Nerfect 10-15-2015 09:57 PM

And when you put the belt on Joe, have him keep up the John Cena US Title Open Challenge. Even keep the name so people keep thinking "Cena." It could be a sign of respect, but with a flare of show-boating.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-15-2015 10:57 PM

So Crews doesn't win? Think they will kill his undefeated streak so quick?

Emperor Smeat 10-15-2015 11:13 PM

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Meltzer said that Vince was mad that the Rusev/Lana engagement story broke on TMZ and it ruined the kayfabe angle on RAW with Summer/Lana/Ziggler/Rusev. He says WWE does work with TMZ about breaking stories but Vince was not happy about this one. He talked about Lana going on social media and showing the engagement ring that Rusev bought her weeks ago, but more often then not Lana/Rusev stayed in Kayfabe most of the time but then went ahead and broke kayfabe by doing that. He could see why Vince would have a problem because he doesn't understand why you would blow your own angle the entire world can see it. Dave goes on to say he doesn't think the angle is dead but they could retool it who knows.
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Blue Pants (Leva Bates) is not expected to be used going forward. She was never under contract. It ruffled a lot of feathers that she had gotten over in a quirky way and there was heat with her. They had continued to use her because she got over in that cult way, in the sense fans were chanting for her at the road shows and they knew she’d get a big pop in Brooklyn. But once Alexa Bliss beat her, that was pretty much supposed to be the end of her.

Supposedly the female lockeroom resented the very favorable part-time deal she had and NXT management didn't like how she rubbed people the wrong way backstage.

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Lucha Underground announcing a second season was of interest to WWE because we’re told there were three wrestlers under contract to Lucha Underground that they were interested in. Angelico are Ricochet are two of the names. Ricochet lives in Orlando already, as he’s the roommate of Apollo Crews. If they can sign him, it’s already been talked about fast tracking him to matches with Finn Balor, but he’s got a seven-year contract with Lucha Underground and New Japan was looking at doing a lot with him as well.

In regards to Season Two, Alberto Del Rio/Patron might not be available for tapings mostly due to commitments in Mexico and being upset with LU management over supposed broken promises.

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The reason they did another injury angle with Kurt Angle, even though he beat Eric Young on Bound for Glory, is that with the next few months of television already taped in July, while he was recovering from his latest surgery, they had to do another injury to take him out again.

Very similar to the Matt Hardy situation with TNA being really short sighted with plans. Knew full well that if they went in a certain direction, it would cause a lot of problems with the taped stuff and yet still did it.

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The final TNA U.S. house show tour of the year, from 10/29 to 11/1, was cancelled due to poor advances. TNA evidently claimed it was due to logistical problems, and advances were fine. If the advances were fine, the shows would have been run. Talent was notified on 10/9, making it pretty difficult to get new bookings three weeks out. According to people on the show, when talent was told about the cancellations, they were told they were getting partial pay for the dates, “although not a lot.” That tells you something when the advances are so bad that the company makes out better with partial pay, but saving the costs of actually doing the show and the trans. This was a major loss of confidence, because sources at WWE, Lucha Underground, New Japan and AAA all confirmed getting phone calls from talent inquiring about the possibility of coming in. WWE is very much in the idea they can pick and choose. Unless it’s a real big star, we’re told Lucha Underground and AAA want talent that already has experience in the Lucha style.

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The 9 p.m. airing of Impact on 10/14 garnered 247,000 viewers, down from last week's 335,000 viewers. This ended the several week run of the audience rising. Impact's replay did 82,000, down from last week's 112,000 viewers. Impact's total viewers - 327,000, down from last week's 447,000 viewers.

The 10/8 edition of Ring Of Honor brought in 174,000 viewers, down just slightly from last week's 175,000 viewers. This was the second highest audience ever for the 11 PM timeslot for the series.

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Lots of talk regarding The Freebirds to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame this year in Dallas. For one, Michael Hayes is still with the company and they like to have at least one inductee with ties to the history of wrestling in the area. The Von Erichs are already in, and I don’t see them putting in area legends like Gary Hart, Bruiser Brody, Johnny Valentine, or Gene Kiniski. For one, none are alive. Last year they didn’t induct any Bay Area legends. Ray Stevens was on the list, they were even collecting his memorabilia for doing so, but then made the call against him, likely because Vince doesn’t like to remind people that so many wrestlers passed away young.

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Here are some notes on the difference between the audience that watches Raw on Monday and Smackdown on Thursday. Essentially, Raw averages 40 years old and Smackdown is quite a big older when it comes to viewership. Only 47 percent of the people 18-34 that watch Raw watch Smackdown. In 35-49, that increases to 55 percent. Over the age of 50, it’s 78 percent so it’s those over the age of 50 that are most likely to be watching both shows.

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With John Cena about to take a hiatus from the road, McMahon is in panic mode about preventing the ratings for Raw from sliding even further. However, his solution to the problem doesn’t involve making any significant creative changes or altering the presentation of the show. Rather, he’s looking to have WWE’s biggest part-time Superstars appear on television more often.

There have been talks with Brock Lesnar and The Undertaker about appearing more. Both have been agreeable to making more appearances since they’re being paid head and shoulders above what anybody else makes per date, including Cena.

McMahon has also reached out to Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson about returning to WWE, even if just for a small handful of appearances to spark interest. The WWE Chairman and CEO wants Johnson to return as soon as possible.

Furthermore, the USA Network is paying WWE $15 million per year for that third hour of Raw, which is significant. A loss of that revenue would cause a major negative effect on the price of WWE stock.
Rumors going around the net at the moment regarding Vince/WWE panicking over ratings and a big rift developing between those that know something needs changing and those that don't want to. Doesn't come from the usual sheet sources which is why its best to take this with a huge grain of salt.


Some other sheet news includes:
  • Recent article on WWE.com focused on indie promotion Evole and the 5 stars they'd like to show up or be more active in NXT. http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/evol...e-nxt-28054230
  • Evolve recently addressed rumors of them having a deal with the WWE by basically giving a vague non-answer. Implied the answer to be "yes" without actually saying it.
  • During a recent interview, Jerry Lawler teased Smackdown might become a weekly live show at some point next year. http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe-sma...6-jerry-lawler
  • In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, Seth Rollins currently has the 12th longest WWE title reign for 1st time champs and needs another 3 months to beat Billy Graham as the longest non-turn heel run as champ. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...eigning_first/
  • Indie promotion 2CW announced they are shutting down on December 20th. https://www.facebook.com/2CWWrestling
  • RAW's Canadian rating is expected to tank really bad next week due to the Blue Jays playoffs game and Canadian Elections taking place that day.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-16-2015 02:52 AM

All of the WrestleMania Travel Packages have sold out already. That is looking good for the WWE. Booking and ratings be damned.

Bad News Gertner 10-16-2015 06:49 AM

Jericho's Podcast have been on fire lately. Awesome interview with the Dudleyz and his 25th anniversary show with Cyrus/Jackyl, Lance Storm and Dr.Luther was the funniest wrestling podcast I've ever heard. Holy fuck was it good. Listened to it 3 times.

Volare 10-16-2015 07:49 AM

Thanks meatball for putting that pic of Bliss up there....


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DAMN iNATOR 10-16-2015 08:11 AM

I could honestly foresee the "Vince snd co. In panic mode backstage" story being completely true. Not only does RAW stand to lose a lot in ratings, but what about revenue from the sales of Cena's merch as well.

And if it were to happen, I'd LOVE to see Rock make a few sporadic appearances. Maybe he could be used to make Reigns look like a slightly to moderately more palatable main-eventer and/or VERY long-term WWE WHC.

The CyNick 10-16-2015 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4716602)
Remember reading something earlier in the year or maybe last year about Hunter having some control over Smackdown for stuff but not enough for any real impact. Vince still gets final say over everything and anything special or unique on Smackdown quickly gets tossed to RAW for rematches and priority.

You know what else Vince has final say on? NXT. Everyone loves that show.

Innovator 10-16-2015 09:13 AM

He has it but doesn't use it, according to HHH on a conference call. HHH gets the final say, but if Vince really wanted something done, he'd do it.

Frank Drebin 10-16-2015 09:39 AM

Vince doesn't care about nxt because that's just on the stupid internet.....

The CyNick 10-16-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4716591)
Regardless of any of that, though, I hate the idea of someone like Cesaro not going anywhere simply because "Vince finds him boring". It's been said countless times over the years that Vince has lost touch of what people want to see, and I gotta say it's fucking right (assuming everything we read online is somewhat true).

If Vince retired tomorrow and Triple H and Steph took complete control, I bet guys like Cesaro would most certainly start to take a more prominent role in the product.

And yes, Cesaro does get good reactions in Des Moines Iowa or anywhere else. Unless we're watching completely different shows. But nobody can ever face Cena and get a better reaction than a "Lets go Cena/Cena sucks" chant.

I don't know. I haven't heard an interview with HHH giving his opinion on Cesaro. Maybe there are attitude issues we don't know about. Maybe it is just Vince doesn't like him. Nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. And those that claim to know are carnies.

In a creative environment its up to the head of creative to use his instincts in what will work and what won't. If his instinct is that Cesaro is just meh, he may be wrong, but i know he's right more often than wrong.

I think we're on the same page. We would both like to see Cesaro get a nice singles program to sink his teeth into. And then judge him after. But it may not be in the cards. To me it doesn't make me want to stop watching RAW.

The CyNick 10-16-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4716855)
He has it but doesn't use it, according to HHH on a conference call. HHH gets the final say, but if Vince really wanted something done, he'd do it.

Exactly

So he likes what he sees. Vince and Hunter are on the same page that the show appeals to a different portion of the audience than RAW.

But if you think Vince is out of touch, he would look at NXT, and say nope were changing everything so it looks like RAW.

The CyNick 10-16-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 4716886)
Vince doesn't care about nxt because that's just on the stupid internet.....

So is the stupid WWE Network though

Innovator 10-16-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4716942)
Exactly

So he likes what he sees. Vince and Hunter are on the same page that the show appeals to a different portion of the audience than RAW.

But if you think Vince is out of touch, he would look at NXT, and say nope were changing everything so it looks like RAW.

I think it shows that Vince at least trusts HHH enough to let him do this thing in NXT. HHH knows his audience for it and plans accordingly.

Plus, Vince must think something is working right with NXT if they sell out the Barclays Center for the "developmental" brand.

The CyNick 10-16-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4716957)
I think it shows that Vince at least trusts HHH enough to let him do this thing in NXT. HHH knows his audience for it and plans accordingly.

Plus, Vince must think something is working right with NXT if they sell out the Barclays Center for the "developmental" brand.

Right, but the point is the product is a little different from RAW and yet Vince allows it air. I never hear people on the Internet say "NXT shows Vince is out of touch". Yet Vince has a say on NXT. So if green lights NXT how out of touch can he be?

Damian Rey 10-16-2015 12:39 PM

His approval or allowance of the show is not the same as being involved with its direction. It's pretty clear that he has little if anything to do with the show given its presentation and direction.

thekrow 10-16-2015 12:39 PM

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A mysterious new face showing up in CHW?


???


Who could this be?


Will he show up at GENIE IN THE LAMP 3?


Make sure to stay tuned!


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Sixx 10-16-2015 12:45 PM

Why is he grinning like an idiot?

Looks so forced.

Jura 10-16-2015 12:56 PM

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The CyNick 10-16-2015 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4716964)
His approval or allowance of the show is not the same as being involved with its direction. It's pretty clear that he has little if anything to do with the show given its presentation and direction.

How is that clear?

Are you in meetings with him regarding NXT? Do you talk to Vince or Hunter?

The only public information is that Vince has final say. Reading and hearing stories about him, I don't think he would just leave NXT and not care what goes on. I agree that Hunter likely has the biggest hand in the creative direction, but it's naive to think Vince has nothing to do with it.

Damian Rey 10-16-2015 02:05 PM

We actually have Hunter confirming NXT is his baby and he runs the show. He's said it. Several times. It's widely known to this point.

Simple Fan 10-16-2015 02:10 PM

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With NXT Takeover: Unstoppable running tomorrow, interest in NXT has reached a fever pitch. Triple H held a media conference call today to talk about the special, as well as the NXT brand in general. During the call, HHH was asked about how CEO Vince McMahon feels about the brand, and most notably Vince's reaction to WrestleMania weekend.

"He was blown away," said Triple H. "I didn't know he was going to come until the last minute. He just dropped me a note and said he'd be there in a bit"

Triple H then noted that Vince McMahon gave him the finances and opportunity to create something special at NXT, and that McMahon was impressed with what he did. However, there were hurdles that Triple H and NXT faced getting to run a show during WrestleMania weekend.

"They saw the success of what we were doing from a television standpoint," explained Triple H. "They were excited about it. San Jose was a tipping point. That all came together last minute for the facility, and I jumped on it. I had to jump through a lot of hoops to convince people that it was the right thing to do. I pushed for it hard and executed it. Vince was on board, but he was getting a lot of push back for it."

Triple H said that the show was a huge paradigm shift for NXT, and got a lot of executives on board, saying "You couldn't stand in that building and not think 'Holy sh-t, this is something special.'"

During the call, Triple H also said that Vince McMahon doesn't watch NXT religiously, but Triple H will often show him things that he needs to see. He mentioned that when McMahon needs something for a particular segment, he'll pitch it, which is what happened with Kevin Owens this week.
Interview HHH did and pretty much says Vince is just the money man and will only pitch something when he really wants something.

Damian Rey 10-16-2015 02:13 PM

How do you know? Where you there?

The CyNick 10-16-2015 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4716981)
We actually have Hunter confirming NXT is his baby and he runs the show. He's said it. Several times. It's widely known to this point.

Nobody is disputing its his show. I'm saying if Vince didn't support what was going on his TV, it wouldn't go out there. By allowing it to air, he's green lighting it. If he was out of touch as people claim, he would nix it, and want everything to look like RAW.

What you guys fail to grasp is RAW looks different from SD, from PPVs, from NXT, because it's meant to appeal to a wider audience. It's not that Vince is out of touch, it's just that the shows are different.

It wasn't that long ago that HHH was the villain of the IWC for holding everyone back and booking himself strong. Now he can do no wrong. What you're missing is that Vince approves it all. Nothing airs without his blessing. Unless you are in the upper echelon of creative meetings (ie Vince, Steph, Hunter, Dunn) you don't know whether or not Vince is out of touch.

thekrow 10-16-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 4716966)
Why is he grinning like an idiot?

Looks so forced.

Hes probably smiling either because he just got a CHW contract


OR


Hes planning something sinister!


Either way, I think we have to check out GENIE IN THE LAMP 3 this weekend to see who this is and what he is up to!

The CyNick 10-16-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4716982)
Interview HHH did and pretty much says Vince is just the money man and will only pitch something when he really wants something.

He also said Vince can do whatever he wants on the show. That's the key.

Hunter has been booking with Vince since Russo left, so I would think more often than not Hunter would know what Vince wants to see.

The point isn't who is doing the day to day booking. If Vince was out of touch he would take a look at NXT TV and want it changed. The point I'm trying to drive home is he doesn't. So how can he be in touch with NXT and out of touch with RAW?

Are the Network Specials good? Is he out of touch there?

I think the real problem is some of you don't like that one or two guys are not higher on the card, so you paint this picture that all of the booking and creative sucks. Couldn't be further from the truth.

Damian Rey 10-16-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4716984)
Nobody is disputing its his show. I'm saying if Vince didn't support what was going on his TV, it wouldn't go out there. By allowing it to air, he's green lighting it. If he was out of touch as people claim, he would nix it, and want everything to look like RAW.

What you guys fail to grasp is RAW looks different from SD, from PPVs, from NXT, because it's meant to appeal to a wider audience. It's not that Vince is out of touch, it's just that the shows are different.

It wasn't that long ago that HHH was the villain of the IWC for holding everyone back and booking himself strong. Now he can do no wrong. What you're missing is that Vince approves it all. Nothing airs without his blessing. Unless you are in the upper echelon of creative meetings (ie Vince, Steph, Hunter, Dunn) you don't know whether or not Vince is out of touch.

Vince allowing or green lighting the show and being out of touch are not directly related. He's not involved in NXT, as blatantly stated by Hunter himself. He's got nothing to do with it other than financing the product.

Vince being out of touch also has zero to do with knowing the upper echelons of creative. It's a opinion shared by many given that Vince is the final say the company's primary program and that it's common knowledge he runs and calls most of not all the shots on the creative direction of such. Given that it's been ages since I consistently found myself invested in what is presented on television, and that they've yet develop any performers beyond meandering mid card acts despite crowd reactions and support yearning for otherwise, and that it's widely assumed and known Vince is head honcho and responsible for creative direction, it's of my opinion he's or of touch with what his fans want.

The CyNick 10-16-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4717003)
Vince allowing or green lighting the show and being out of touch are not directly related. He's not involved in NXT, as blatantly stated by Hunter himself. He's got nothing to do with it other than financing the product.

Vince being out of touch also has zero to do with knowing the upper echelons of creative. It's a opinion shared by many given that Vince is the final say the company's primary program and that it's common knowledge he runs and calls most of not all the shots on the creative direction of such. Given that it's been ages since I consistently found myself invested in what is presented on television, and that they've yet develop any performers beyond meandering mid card acts despite crowd reactions and support yearning for otherwise, and that it's widely assumed and known Vince is head honcho and responsible for creative direction, it's of my opinion he's or of touch with what his fans want.

So we're ignoring

The Shield
Wyatt Family
Brock Lesnar 2.0
Daniel Bryan
Kevin Owens

All recent acts that have gotten to main event status. Did they slip through the cracks?

Emperor Smeat 10-16-2015 05:09 PM

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#1-norm-fan 10-16-2015 05:14 PM

Remember when "Fandangoing" became a thing and WWE awkwardly tried to make it their thing the next night on Raw like someone's weird, out of touch grandpa trying to be "hip to the youngsters"?

Damian Rey 10-16-2015 05:49 PM

Except outside of Lesnar, who only recently became a main event attraction and was instead wasting time wrestling Triple H, none of those acts are main event status. None. Hell, Lesnar is about to wrestle Taker for the third time. He's wrestled Big Show twice, Hunter 3x, Cena 3x, and Taker 3x since coming back. Other than Reigns and Rollins being sprinkled in, it's been the same repetitive matchup for arguably their biggest draw.

Rollins is jobber who is made t look lesser than his competition despite being the champion. Ambrose and Reigns have been spinning their wheels with no advancement in the least year and a half, as evident by the fact Ambrose is STILL in a feud with Bray Wyatt.

Speaking of Wyatt, he went from feuding with Ambrose, to a short term, no gain feud with Undertaker, to feuding again with Reigns and Ambrose. They've done absolutely nothing of note with Wyatt since his Cena feud. He hasn't seen the main event yet. Not sure why you pegged him as a "main event act".

Daniel Bryan was pushed down to feud with Kane while the Shield took over the Authority angle, and then pushed down further when he returned from injury.

Kevin Owens is in a feud with Ryback, after a short feud with Cesaro. Two guys who have been meaningless after a once hot but now over exposed feud with Cena.

You have the right to feel differently, but I don't find seeing guys do the same shit for years on end, getting nowhere despite having both the talent and fan support ( Ambrose and Wyatt specifically) to become more prominent, as riveting, compelling or progressive television.

Not to mention, what exactly does that have to do with NXT and Vince basically being Ted Turner to the product, as in he's there in money only? Are you trying to defer from the topic? Fact is, NXT is run by Hunter, and despite having the pull to do so, Vince does not, by choice, involve himself in the product and it's clear to see when compared to the product he does invest time in.

Simple Fan 10-16-2015 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4716987)
He also said Vince can do whatever he wants on the show. That's the key.

The point isn't who is doing the day to day booking. If Vince was out of touch he would take a look at NXT TV and want it changed. The point I'm trying to drive home is he doesn't. So how can he be in touch with NXT and out of touch with RAW?

I think the real problem is some of you don't like that one or two guys are not higher on the card, so you paint this picture that all of the booking and creative sucks. Couldn't be further from the truth.

How is Vince can do anything he wants the key? He can but he doesn't. From what I have seen it seems Vince just pitches things for guys that are on the main roster.

Vince doesnt control everything in NXT like he does Raw. So for you to say he's not out of touch because he doesn't nix NXT is crazy. The dude doesn't even watch NXT so one could actually argue that he is out of touch because he doesn't watch the hottest promotion in the world right now.

I dont have a problem with people being low on the card, its the card itself. With 5 hours of national TV time you would think every one would have something. I mean hell throw every one you don't have any thing for in to tag teams or somthing. Every week Raw is one big Seth Rollins storyline that usually sucks and is predictable as hell. Everyone is on the same level except for Cena. The divas revolution is a joke. That's even more proof that Vince is out of touch since NXT has had no problem presenting their "women".

Rammsteinmad 10-16-2015 06:26 PM

Any time I watch NXT, the fans are super into the product. Hell, even the women's matches gets huge pops.

Meanwhile in WWE, we're regularly greeted with "boring" chants, or constant "what" chants to faces, or "please retire" chants to guys like Big Show who has done the same thing every year for the last ten years.

Regardless of who's overseeing what shows, NXT seems to be doing something right because their product is hot! It's a formula WWE should follow more on Raw, and then their flagship show might actually be half as entertaining as it use to be.

But hey, what do I know? I only come on to TPWW every Tuesday for the last year to see reports of Raw hitting the "lowest rating ever". WWE sucks these days. Vince is out of touch. He has no idea what his audience wants.

Emperor Smeat 10-16-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4717041)
Remember when "Fandangoing" became a thing and WWE awkwardly tried to make it their thing the next night on Raw like someone's weird, out of touch grandpa trying to be "hip to the youngsters"?

Or the inverse of them failing to capitalize for a long time on how popular the "YES" chant was becoming outside of wrestling.

If it was Cena or any other hand picked star by the WWE, no doubt they would have been more active or acknowledge the pop culture aspect a lot sooner. Was during the time of them being rumored thinking it was just the chant that was over or just a fad and not Bryan as the real reason. Tried to "give" the chant to Big Show or downplay it thinking it would just get weaker when the opposite happened instead.

Damian Rey 10-16-2015 07:24 PM

Or telling Bryan to chant no instead and not trying to ride the wave and turning him face sooner.

Mercenary 10-16-2015 09:12 PM

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Lock Jaw 10-16-2015 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4717077)
Or telling Bryan to chant no instead and not trying to ride the wave and turning him face sooner.

I thought the "no" stuff was brilliant.....

Lock Jaw 10-16-2015 09:21 PM

Furthermore, I am tired of people saying that they want WWE to do what they do with NXT, but on the main show.

This simply just is not possible. There's a lot they can do to improve, but it is impossible to try to mimic the NXT model with the main roster.

Frank Drebin 10-16-2015 09:35 PM

100%

Nxt is an hour a week with 4 (?) Ppvs a year vs. 3 hours of live tv, 2 hours of taped tv (not to mention Superstars and Main Event) and at least a dozen ppvs a year.

That's just for starters.

Frank Drebin 10-16-2015 09:37 PM

Oh and it's also just supposed to be a "minor league" type proving ground, not the finished product.

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Harry Smith has announced that he has acquired the trademark rights to use the British Bulldog name. In the below announcement, he also confirms that going forward in NOAH he will be billed as “The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith Jr”…

“A big announcement to be made! Ownership and trademark of the name “British Bulldog” has been granted, won and paid by me. Now going forward in Pro Wrestling NOAH I will be known as the “British Bulldog” Davey Boy Smith Jr.”
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Wrestlingdvdnetwork.com has confirmed that a Shane McMahon DVD will be released sometime in May. WWE is also considering releasing “Best of the United States Championship” in May, so they may decide not to release Shane O’Mac’s DVD. The uncertainty may be caused by the uncertainty of Shane being involved with the DVD.
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"Not too long after i was back working, Vince had a meeting with a few of us, including myself, 'Taker, and Hunter, and he told us how we needed to start building up these younger guys.

That's when Vince laid out his plans. He said, "Hunter, you're going to work with Sheamus and start building him. Shawn, you're going to work with Miz and start building him. And 'Taker, you're going to work with Drew McIntyre and start building him."
Excerpt from a book called "My Favorite Match" that included WWE wrestlers telling stories of their own. The matches HBK mentions would have happened at Mania 26 before Vince eventually dropped the plans since he felt none of the young guys were ready/worthy yet. Longer part of the HBK story from NeoGAF's monthly wrestling thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=9959

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It was reported earlier that AAA star Myzteziz, Luis Ignacio Urive Alvirde would be leaving the promotion.

The former / ‘original’ Sin Cara in WWE, Alvirde apparently walked out on the promotion but then said later he would join CMLL after fulfilling his obligations to AAA, and would resume working as ‘Mistico’, the name he is most known for, leading to some confusion.

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting AAA owns the Myzteziz name, and may have someone else work the gimmick, similar to WWE owning the ‘Sin Cara’ name and having a new wrestler wear the mask. As far as Alvirde working as Mistico, it’s being said he doesn’t want to return to using that name, even though CMLL owns it. He did previously claim he owned the Sin Cara name, which is untrue, and the name might actually hurt his image with Mexican fans.
The new name he ended up deciding on was Mistico 2.0 as a loophole to get around CMLL's ownership of the name.

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"I've approached them. Dusty (Rhodes) approached them on my behalf. For whatever reason, the office has their favorite guys. I understand that. One of the first deals I made when I signed with Vince McMahon was that when I was done that I wanted to coach. It's water under the bridge, it ain't going to happen. It's never going to happen," Animal said.

Animal singled out the Performance Center needing tag team wrestling coaching in particular. He said that there's a lot of favoritism involved in who gets jobs right now, and he things that coaching the tag division is crucial.

"You have to have guys coaching who know tag team wrestling. You have to have the experience. The business has to get away from 'this guy is my buddy, so he gets a job,'" said Animal.
Part of a recent the interview Road Warrior Animal had with Jobbing Out podcast. https://soundcloud.com/jobbingout/jo...ctober-15-2015

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I can tell you one we did on Rhyno. We were doing some shows in Tennessee and he was staying at my house with Billy Gunn. Billy and I went out drinking the night before the show and so we made Rhyno drive the next day. We were going to Jackson, Tennessee and my brother is a police officer there – and he looks nothing like me. So I had my brother pull us over and mess with Rhyno. He did the whole windows down, hands on the steering wheel business…

Meanwhile, I'm throwing fries and they're hitting Rhyno on the head and he's cussing at me. My brother asks for his license and registration and Rhyno gives him the license but says he doesn't know where the registration is because it's my (Storm's) car. My brother asks, "What's his name" and Rhyno said: "I don't know", which didn't go down well with my brother. Rhyno explained that he didn't know my real name because we're all professional wrestlers, but my brother said he didn't watch wrestling. He then asked Rhyno if he'd been drinking and Rhyno told him no at which point I shouted out that Rhyno was actually on steroids!

Billy, who wasn't in on the joke, was completely shocked by this point. My brother then pulled Rhyno out of the car and gave him the drinking test. Meanwhile, I have some bullets in the back of my truck, because I often target shoot. I held up a bullet from the window and shouted, "Officer, he's got a gun on him!" Rhyno, in complete shock, looked at me then turned around and saw that my brother had his taser aimed at him and was screaming at him to put his hands on his head. Rhyno reached up, but my brother kept telling him to reach higher. At that point, my brother told Rhyno he was taking him to jail. He takes Rhyno to the car and puts one hand behind his back and cuffs him.

I get out of the car, come running over and hit my brother from behind. He goes down as if he's been knocked out. Rhyno turns around, one hand still cuffed and says "What did you just do Storm!". I shouted "Dude, let's get out of here. We'll rip the camera out of his car and they'll never know it was us". He simply said, "FU, I'm leaving". He goes to take off, running into the woods.

At that point, we let him know what was happening. He told me he was convinced I'd gone completely crazy. He was going to run into the nearest house and call the cops!
Rib James Storm once did to Rhino while in TNA.

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Some other sheet news includes:
  • According to John Pollock from LAW (Live Audio Wrestling), WWE currently planning on waiting until the actual Hell in a Cell ppv itself to reveal who will face Cena for the US title.
  • For those in the UK, South Side Wrestling announced Austin Aires will be at their October 24th show and is facing Will Ospreay in a match.
  • According to the Observer, don't expect any Evolve related stuff to show up on the WWE Network any time soon due to the WWE not liking the production used by Evolve nor wants to invest the huge sums of money to improve it. The current relationship between the two companies is just planned to be talent swaps and a feeder system for NXT.
  • Update to Owen Hart's DVD/Blu-Ray set getting a recent cover changed as its been rumored the WWE is considering one more change before settling on a final version.

Wishbone 10-16-2015 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4717140)
Furthermore, I am tired of people saying that they want WWE to do what they do with NXT, but on the main show.

This simply just is not possible. There's a lot they can do to improve, but it is impossible to try to mimic the NXT model with the main roster.

This is true, but a lot of what NXT does 100% could be translated to the main roster.

For example, giving more of the roster stuff to do. I think we can both agree that RAW can't manage time for shit. They have 3 hours of programming yet they've actually managed to have fewer interesting storylines than they had when they were only filling up two hours.

The writing would also benefit from a major change to being more like NXT. Stop with the Rusev/Lana/Dolph shit and start giving us storylines that actually matter and aren't the kind of thing that'd make reality tv cringe. Instead of the abortion that has been the Divas Revolution how about they just start writing for the women the same way they do for the men? NXT got this right with Sasha vs Baylee yet the main roster can't seem to fathom that. Why can't two women be chasing the belt just to prove they're the best in the business just like the guys?

And on the topic of Sasha vs Baylee, we know that most of the people on the main roster can go in the ring. Why can't the main roster allow them to showcase their abilities the way NXT does? Even PPV matches aren't allowed to have the same quality as some regular NXT matches. There's some sort of disconnect here, and it's not the talent of the superstars involved (most of the time). somewhere along the line talent is being hampered for some odd reason.

I'm not saying that everything from NXT will work on the main roster, but the basics would and have worked in the past. NXT's booking, writing, timing, etc really aren't much different from what WWE has done in the past with the main roster.

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Dark One 10-16-2015 11:25 PM

Let's talk about how great Dalton Castle is in this Q&A: https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._ama_live_now/

GD 10-17-2015 05:27 AM

Whoa! Didn't know that Nikki Bella was 16 minutes older than Brie Bella. Weird.

Shadrick 10-17-2015 05:40 AM

Whoa!

Sixx 10-17-2015 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4717255)
Whoa! Didn't know that Nikki Bella was 16 minutes older than Brie Bella. Weird.

This is fucking incredible.

Corporate CockSnogger 10-17-2015 09:07 AM

Holy shit seriously?

#1-norm-fan 10-17-2015 09:17 AM

What's going on here now?

Sixx 10-17-2015 10:07 AM

I guess that means their their father came and then came again 16 minutes later, right?

Savio 10-17-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4717157)

WHo is she? I love her.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-17-2015 10:33 AM

Eden Styles.

Shadrick 10-17-2015 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4717307)
WHo is she? I love her.

Mrs. Cody Rhodes.

Simple Fan 10-17-2015 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4717255)
Whoa! Didn't know that Nikki Bella was 16 minutes older than Brie Bella. Weird.

My little brothers are twins and they are only 2 minutes apart.

The CyNick 10-17-2015 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4717041)
Remember when "Fandangoing" became a thing and WWE awkwardly tried to make it their thing the next night on Raw like someone's weird, out of touch grandpa trying to be "hip to the youngsters"?

I remember them going with it and then Fandango proving to be garbage and unable to sustain the momentum. Does he still work there?

The CyNick 10-17-2015 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4717046)
Except outside of Lesnar, who only recently became a main event attraction and was instead wasting time wrestling Triple H, none of those acts are main event status. None. Hell, Lesnar is about to wrestle Taker for the third time. He's wrestled Big Show twice, Hunter 3x, Cena 3x, and Taker 3x since coming back. Other than Reigns and Rollins being sprinkled in, it's been the same repetitive matchup for arguably their biggest draw.

Rollins is jobber who is made t look lesser than his competition despite being the champion. Ambrose and Reigns have been spinning their wheels with no advancement in the least year and a half, as evident by the fact Ambrose is STILL in a feud with Bray Wyatt.

Speaking of Wyatt, he went from feuding with Ambrose, to a short term, no gain feud with Undertaker, to feuding again with Reigns and Ambrose. They've done absolutely nothing of note with Wyatt since his Cena feud. He hasn't seen the main event yet. Not sure why you pegged him as a "main event act".

Daniel Bryan was pushed down to feud with Kane while the Shield took over the Authority angle, and then pushed down further when he returned from injury.

Kevin Owens is in a feud with Ryback, after a short feud with Cesaro. Two guys who have been meaningless after a once hot but now over exposed feud with Cena.

You have the right to feel differently, but I don't find seeing guys do the same shit for years on end, getting nowhere despite having both the talent and fan support ( Ambrose and Wyatt specifically) to become more prominent, as riveting, compelling or progressive television.

Not to mention, what exactly does that have to do with NXT and Vince basically being Ted Turner to the product, as in he's there in money only? Are you trying to defer from the topic? Fact is, NXT is run by Hunter, and despite having the pull to do so, Vince does not, by choice, involve himself in the product and it's clear to see when compared to the product he does invest time in.

Basically you're entire post there is "I dont like the upper echelon of talent in the WWE right now, so any combination of them feuding sucks and means they are not real main eventers"

The CyNick 10-17-2015 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4717140)
Furthermore, I am tired of people saying that they want WWE to do what they do with NXT, but on the main show.

This simply just is not possible. There's a lot they can do to improve, but it is impossible to try to mimic the NXT model with the main roster.

Thats exactly right. NXT appeals to a more hardcore fan. That type of programming with not work on Monday in prime time.

Some people dont seem to get that NXT airs on the WWE Network. By the nature of where it airs, 100% of your audience are big time fans of the product. Just like the type of person who would come to TPWW to post about sports entertainment would be a bigger than average fan.

Its sometimes tough to write/produce TV that appeals beyond what YOU would like to see. Its a tough concept to grab for some people. But you clearly get it. Good to see some smart people on here.

Mercenary 10-17-2015 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4717329)
I remember them going with it and then Fandango proving to be garbage and unable to sustain the momentum. Does he still work there?

Yes cause ypur ass buddy Vince's creative did nothing with him, but push him to the side. Like they have so many others.

The CyNick 10-17-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4717177)
This is true, but a lot of what NXT does 100% could be translated to the main roster.

For example, giving more of the roster stuff to do. I think we can both agree that RAW can't manage time for shit. They have 3 hours of programming yet they've actually managed to have fewer interesting storylines than they had when they were only filling up two hours.

The writing would also benefit from a major change to being more like NXT. Stop with the Rusev/Lana/Dolph shit and start giving us storylines that actually matter and aren't the kind of thing that'd make reality tv cringe. Instead of the abortion that has been the Divas Revolution how about they just start writing for the women the same way they do for the men? NXT got this right with Sasha vs Baylee yet the main roster can't seem to fathom that. Why can't two women be chasing the belt just to prove they're the best in the business just like the guys?

And on the topic of Sasha vs Baylee, we know that most of the people on the main roster can go in the ring. Why can't the main roster allow them to showcase their abilities the way NXT does? Even PPV matches aren't allowed to have the same quality as some regular NXT matches. There's some sort of disconnect here, and it's not the talent of the superstars involved (most of the time). somewhere along the line talent is being hampered for some odd reason.

I'm not saying that everything from NXT will work on the main roster, but the basics would and have worked in the past. NXT's booking, writing, timing, etc really aren't much different from what WWE has done in the past with the main roster.

I see it differently.

People remember the Attitude Era, and seem to forget how crap the in-ring product was on TV. When you see the TV today, they focus on fewer characters over a longer period of time. It allows guys to work longer matches, and tell stories in the ring. Not everyone is great at it, but you have to learn.

You're so impatient. Do you not think Sacha will eventually have a 15 minute match with Charlotte, Becky, Paige or Bayley? Of course she will. They brought up a bunch of girls at the same time, it takes time to get them over. There's no point of trying to have the epic title match before people are ready for it to matter.

What they are doing is great. Nikki was the long running champion, she clearly cared about being champion, and it was very clear that Charlotte cared a lot about finally winning it. Paige did the halfway heel turn because she is jealous that Charlotte won the title. Nikki wants the title back. Literally everything is about the title. If anything, you could make the argument that they need to have a couple programs in the Divas division that are away from the title. This is another example of complaining for the sake of complaining. The Divas are getting an opportunity to work longer matches on TV, learning to carry themselves better, and over time the division will be strong.

You gotta remember that Banks and Bayley headlined or co-headlined shows. The WWE Divas division is not at that place yet. But they hopefully will be over time. You can just go from 0 to 100 in 1 night. Its gotta be a gradual process. If you know what to look for, you can see they are setting the foundation for progression.

The CyNick 10-17-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4717332)
Yes cause ypur ass buddy Vince's creative did nothing with him, but push him to the side. Like they have so many others.

No, they pushed him. I dont know if you recall or not, but he was working with Chris Jericho. The fans got into him in a mocking way, and it caught on. WWE let that flourish, kept him on TV, and he fell on his face.

He is a classic example of guys who get on TV for a small thing, but then dont elevate their game. But sure, if you feel better blaming the bogeymen like the writing team or Vince, go for it.

Rammsteinmad 10-17-2015 02:09 PM

How would you have him "elevate him game", while sticking to the confines of what the booking team allow him to do?

Damian Rey 10-17-2015 02:19 PM

Fandango actually sustained a concussion and that was the end of that.

I actually very much like the talent they do have. You claiming otherwise is reaching for an argument that doesn't exist. The fact that they've done nothing to progress said talent is the issue I take. But keep spinning your wheels pal.

Simple Fan 10-17-2015 02:29 PM

OK Cynick is delirious, he said the Divas revolution is great. Really, Charlotte copies her father so much and is horrible at it. Becky just stands around and says so.thing weird all the time. Sascha is the boss but maybe not even the leader of BAD? Paige turns heel then switches her mindset and wants to be back in PCB and is jealous of Natti. Its all shit and an extra match on Raw every week is pretty much all the Divas revolution is. Lana and Summer Rea was the best thing going about the divas until Lana got hurt.

Shadrick 10-17-2015 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4717334)
No, they pushed him. I dont know if you recall or not, but he was working with Chris Jericho. The fans got into him in a mocking way, and it caught on. WWE let that flourish, kept him on TV, and he fell on his face.

He is a classic example of guys who get on TV for a small thing, but then dont elevate their game. But sure, if you feel better blaming the bogeymen like the writing team or Vince, go for it.

No, they halted the push. Fandango got a concussion. Chris told him not to divulge it. He did anyway. They halted the push as a result. It had nothing to do with him not "elevating his game" because he's been cleared since with no resuming of the push.

GD 10-17-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 4717299)
I guess that means their their father came and then came again 16 minutes later, right?

I just assumed that Brie was the older one based on how she acts.

Rammsteinmad 10-17-2015 03:54 PM

I still don't know which Bella is which. And I don't really care.

Rammsteinmad 10-17-2015 03:54 PM

Actually, I still don't know which Uso is which. But I like the Usos.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-17-2015 03:56 PM

Fandango was already finished with his feud with Jericho and was fighting for the IC title. Which was then won by Curtis Axel. How would Jericho been involved at that point? Just giving out advice?

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-17-2015 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4717373)
I still don't know which Bella is which. And I don't really care.

Bigger ass Brie, bigger boobs Nikki. It's pretty simple now.

Wishbone 10-17-2015 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4717374)
Actually, I still don't know which Uso is which. But I like the Usos.

Buddy of mine refers to them as "right Uso" and "left Uso" based on which side their facepaint is on. Not sure if that changes at each show, but it's worked relatively well so far for us.

Emperor Smeat 10-17-2015 06:02 PM

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Rammsteinmad 10-17-2015 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4717379)
Buddy of mine refers to them as "right Uso" and "left Uso" based on which side their facepaint is on. Not sure if that changes at each show, but it's worked relatively well so far for us.

I can't even focus enough to notice that. I just see them as "that Uso" and "the other Uso".

Jura 10-17-2015 09:06 PM

U and SO

#1-norm-fan 10-17-2015 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4717369)
No, they halted the push. Fandango got a concussion. Chris told him not to divulge it. He did anyway. They halted the push as a result. It had nothing to do with him not "elevating his game" because he's been cleared since with no resuming of the push.

Shad... Shad... It's hopeless. Just don't even try.

I can't even bring myself to be out for blood for hate toward my Johnny baby in this situation.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-17-2015 10:22 PM

Bayley favorited a tweet of mine :heart:

Mercenary 10-17-2015 10:25 PM

Looks like Blue Pants got the walking papers cause she was bad during Summerslam weekend

http://www.dailywrestlingnews.com/ww...ackstage-heat/

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-17-2015 10:28 PM

It probably has to do more with the first part. Everybody hated her because she wasn't under contract and was way more over than most of the people. She got one of the loudest pops and chants with "We want Blue Pants," and "Blue Pants City." She can make alot of money on the indys for being former NXT. She was making alot more than most with being able to take indys and signings.

She'll be back if the We Want Blue Pants chants happen. She'll just have to sign a contract and forgo any more Indy bookings.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-17-2015 10:39 PM

Damn it. Saw a Sasha Banks had followed me but it was a fake account, but it doesn't say parody account. Is that legal? Didn't think it was really Sasha though. Bailey's favorite was real. :heart:

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-17-2015 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4717398)

Horrible mistake. Spike Dudley could have been the best ECW Champion ever and wouldn't have split to WCW. Also killed his push forever.

Lock Jaw 10-17-2015 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4717477)
Bayley favorited a tweet of mine :heart:

What was the tweet.... post it....

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-17-2015 11:42 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NXT- The Divas█Revolution. <a href="https://t.co/tdvwLw0Uml">https://t.co/tdvwLw0Uml</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Damon (@rdamon1982) <a href="https://twitter.com/rdamon1982/status/655492058006687744">October 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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SlickyTrickyDamon 10-18-2015 12:53 AM

I need a topic to write for about wrestling for my blog. Taking suggestions. Sort of out of ideas. Talked about alot of stuff already including nxt, tag team wrestling, road to WM last year, the shield, divas and every episode of WWE Rivalries.

CSL 10-18-2015 12:54 AM

Ric Flair's robes

CSL 10-18-2015 12:54 AM

wrestling calligraphy

CSL 10-18-2015 12:55 AM

the hairstyles of the AWA

CSL 10-18-2015 12:55 AM

Dean Malenko

CSL 10-18-2015 12:55 AM

who wore tassles the best?

CSL 10-18-2015 12:55 AM

Which is your favourite Big Show?


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