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RP 06-26-2007 01:07 PM

Jokes? I thought we were all making wild assumptions with no real clue was to what happend.

I must has misunderstood. My bad.

Skippord 06-26-2007 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Yes they did. They were sadden and very shooken up. But not openly weeping, which is strange. Steph wasn't even crying. It was almost as if she was trying not to believe something she knew.

Edge was

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
This is what I'm afraid is going to come out, and disturb all of us. What if he used a wrestling hold to kill one or both of them?

If he choked them with a wrestling hold I seriously think the United States government will ban professional wrestling, possible MMA fighting, and strictly regulate boxing.

Marc the Smark 06-26-2007 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Yes they did. They were sadden and very shooken up. But not openly weeping, which is strange. Steph wasn't even crying. It was almost as if she was trying not to believe something she knew.

Yes, good observation.

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 01:10 PM

Edge did seem by the far the most shaken. BUT, I dont know if that means he had no idea what happened. Maybe he's the one that got "curious" text messages from Chris? He might have been very close to situation and maybe thats why he was so shaken.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 01:11 PM

I thought Chavo got the texts.

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 01:12 PM

There seem to be two different types of interviews yesterday...

1) People who ignored his personal life, and focused entirely on his professional work

2) People that focused almost ENTIRELY on his personal life, and tried to hammer in the fact that he was such a loving caring person. Almost like a hope against all hope that what they suspected wasn't true.

Arnold HamNegger 06-26-2007 01:12 PM

The thing I don't get is say he 'snapped', he was fully functional in society and working with the WWE up til this weekend. Nobody noticed a change in him or in his behavior? Same old Benoit goes to work, wrestles a match with Burke during the week...then kills himself and his entire family that weekend?

It doesn't make any sense. These things never do, but my God....

Marc the Smark 06-26-2007 01:13 PM

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told The Associated Press that authorities are currently investigating what role, if any, that steroids may have played in the incident.

RP 06-26-2007 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Val Venis
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wtf is Earl Hebner doing sucking up spotlight in that ring when all thats going down. He should have left well before Eddie got in.

Zeeboe 06-26-2007 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
Jokes? I thought we were all making wild assumptions with no real clue was to what happend.

I must has misunderstood. My bad.

Hey, so far all fingers are pointing towards Benoit. We all need to stop kidding ourselves here. You all not assuming things are being as guilty as I was last night. I kept lying to myself, saying that Benoit dying was all a work and some of you were as well, but we all knew Benoit was dead....just like we all know that Benoit most likely killed his family and himself.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 01:13 PM

I'm just feeling sicker and sicker as the day goes on, and the hangover is pretty much gone right now.

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
I thought Chavo got the texts.

Yeh, my first thought to. But I just had the idea that maybe thats why Edge was shaken last night. Maybe not the texts, but maybe he knew more than most and was closer to the situation. Maybe Benoit had been a little extra-weird around him or something, and he was suspicious, but never took action on it cause he never thought something would happen. But he did have the line of the night, by far, when he said something like "I don't understand this kind of thing, I don't think I ever will".

Paranoid Rattlesnake 06-26-2007 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Edge did seem by the far the most shaken. BUT, I dont know if that means he had no idea what happened. Maybe he's the one that got "curious" text messages from Chris? He might have been very close to situation and maybe thats why he was so shaken.


Chavo states he would trust Chris with his Life and his Kids lives. Think that says it all

RP 06-26-2007 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told The Associated Press that authorities are currently investigating what role, if any, that steroids may have played in the incident.


Now the shit will hit the fan.

James Steele 06-26-2007 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Okay, if the report is true that he killed his wife first, then stayed at home with his son and killed him later then I think he initially only intended to kill his wife.

I think his wife was a premeditated murder and he intended on getting away with it. After it set in what he had done, I think he panicked, and then decided to kill himself and for some reason also decided it was necessary to kill his son.

I hope he killed his son just so he wouldn't have to grow up with his parents and with this hovering over his head forever. I can only hope.

James Steele 06-26-2007 01:15 PM

When is the press conference?

RP 06-26-2007 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Val Venis
Hey, so far all fingers are pointing towards Benoit. We all need to stop kidding ourselves here. You all not assuming things are being as guilty as I was last night. I kept lying to myself, saying that Benoit dying was all a work and some of you were as well, but we all knew Benoit was dead....just like we all know that Benoit most likely killed his family and himself.


Most likely isnt good enough for me to start pointing fingers. I'm patient enough to be able to sit back and wait for more information. You're a dumb prick.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
Now the shit will hit the fan.

They were in his home, and WWE has a voluntary wellness policy. PR shit, maybe, but not much more.

St. Jimmy 06-26-2007 01:17 PM

Watching Edge's spot from last night was so hard. The look in his eyes was just the most upsetting thing I think I've ever seen.

Marc the Smark 06-26-2007 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesSteele
When is the press conference?

3PM EST, mayber sooner... I read that somewhere, but I forgot which site because I'm checking different ones.

Arnold HamNegger 06-26-2007 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
There seem to be two different types of interviews yesterday...

1) People who ignored his personal life, and focused entirely on his professional work

2) People that focused almost ENTIRELY on his personal life, and tried to hammer in the fact that he was such a loving caring person. Almost like a hope against all hope that what they suspected wasn't true.

:y:

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold HamNegger
The thing I don't get is say he 'snapped', he was fully functional in society and working with the WWE up til this weekend. Nobody noticed a change in him or in his behavior? Same old Benoit goes to work, wrestles a match with Burke during the week...then kills himself and his entire family that weekend?

It doesn't make any sense. These things never do, but my God....

Thats the thing, "snapped" doesn't just happen without ANY warning. It might be minor things but there is ALWAYS some kind of mental and/or physical warnings before someone "snaps". Now, he was quiet and reserved, but maybe he got completely withdrawn before this went down. Maybe he had a temper, but maybe he got extremely volatile before this went down. I don't know. But snapping without any sort of warning doesn't happen.

For the record, I'm not a psychologist but it was my original major in college and I switched @ about 80 units, so I was very close to completing a BA in it. Does that make me an expert? No. So don't jump down my throat about it but I think I can help understand this a little better from that aspect.

Skippord 06-26-2007 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesSteele
I hope he killed his son just so he wouldn't have to grow up with his parents and with this hovering over his head forever. I can only hope.

Thats what I think too

James Steele 06-26-2007 01:17 PM

Plus, isn't it just random testing unless you were caught before?

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Yeh, my first thought to. But I just had the idea that maybe thats why Edge was shaken last night. Maybe not the texts, but maybe he knew more than most and was closer to the situation. Maybe Benoit had been a little extra-weird around him or something, and he was suspicious, but never took action on it cause he never thought something would happen. But he did have the line of the night, by far, when he said something like "I don't understand this kind of thing, I don't think I ever will".

But the thing is, people do act differently when a tragedy like this strikes close to home, especially in a tight knit family the WWE locker room usually is.

I mean who is to say, other than the people who are backstage every single day, who really knew what.

And let's not forget the whole grieving process.

James Steele 06-26-2007 01:19 PM

This is going to change the WWE and possibly professional wrestling more than anything ever before if steroids were invovled. With all the shit with all the other sports, this will only add fuel to the fire on the issue.

BigDaddyCool 06-26-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippord
Edge was

Yeah, I was only barely paying attention at that point. I got up and play a video game for a bit.

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesSteele
I hope he killed his son just so he wouldn't have to grow up with his parents and with this hovering over his head forever. I can only hope.

Yeh thats about the only reason I can draw from it.

Arnold HamNegger 06-26-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Thats the thing, "snapped" doesn't just happen without ANY warning. It might be minor things but there is ALWAYS some kind of mental and/or physical warnings before someone "snaps". Now, he was quiet and reserved, but maybe he got completely withdrawn before this went down. Maybe he had a temper, but maybe he got extremely volatile before this went down. I don't know. But snapping without any sort of warning doesn't happen.

For the record, I'm not a psychologist but it was my original major in college and I switched @ about 80 units, so I was very close to completing a BA in it. Does that make me an expert? No. So don't jump down my throat about it but I think I can help understand this a little better from that aspect.

Yeah, I work in a Psychiatric Hospital Mercury, so I'm just trying to do the same thing as you. There's usually warning signs before 'snapping', that's what I don't understand. This is so completely out of left field and shocking. It'll be interesting to see if anyone comes out with "noticing changes in his behavior" stories.

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold HamNegger
Yeah, I work in a Psychiatric Hospital Mercury, so I'm just trying to do the same thing as you. There's usually warning signs before 'snapping', that's what I don't understand. This is so completely out of left field and shocking. It'll be interesting to see if anyone comes out with "noticing changes in his behavior" stories.

Well if you remember, both Dean and Chavo always talked about how he usually distanced himself from everyone.

You know kind've like a "loner" somewhat. Usually when shit like this happens they usually have a loner streak in them.

I mean if even his closest friends couldn't really get inside of his head, lord knows what kind of thoughts he's had over the years.

Kalyx triaD 06-26-2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
Mmhmm, and you're a psychiatry professional, are you?

Don't even. We're ALL playin junior detective on this case and it's looking kinda fucked up. This guy had a fan following, a job, a family and he went and killed his family. I'm not saying less successful people have rights to be killers themselves, but that is a messed up way to leave a legacy.

BigDaddyCool 06-26-2007 01:29 PM

I wonder what Kevin Sullivan thinks about all of this.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD
Don't even. We're ALL playin junior detective on this case and it's looking kinda fucked up. This guy had a fan following, a job, a family and he went and killed his family. I'm not saying less successful people have rights to be killers themselves, but that is a messed up way to leave a legacy.

You're the one who's talking in definites, the rest of us are flinging maybes like monkey poop.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
I wonder what Kevin Sullivan thinks about all of this.

That's the second time I've heard his name, what does he have to do with this?

Arnold HamNegger 06-26-2007 01:32 PM

The only thing I've seen in my 5 years of working in a Psych Ward that I can compare this too, as far as the out of character/left field this thing is, is drug induced psychotic behavior. We've had cases here of people trying to murder there spouses when they are cracked out on drugs....and in rare cases, someone that is being molested will one day just 'snap' and kill the molester. But usually there are warning signs that someone is being molested too.

Either way, none of these things fit Benoit's profile...so it just makes it even more unfuckingbelievable that this happened.

Thing that's chilling, like I said before, is that he could murder his wife on Saturday, call into WWE and quote "personal reasons" for not showing up to the PPV. Then, calmly watch the PPV with his son, send text messages to people...then kill his boy. Then kill himself.

Just awful. :nono:

BigDaddyCool 06-26-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
You're the one who's talking in definites, the rest of us are flinging maybes like monkey poop.

Hey, I don't fling monkey poop. Then again, I haven't said anything about what might have happened...

Innovator 06-26-2007 01:33 PM

Press Conference around 3

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 01:35 PM

God damn and I have to pick up my girlfriend from work at 3. :mad:

Marc the Smark 06-26-2007 01:35 PM

While updating their coverage of the Benoit family tragedy, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution has posted a report that Nancy Benoit filed for divorce and an order of protection from Chris Benoit in May 2003.

Nancy Benoit alleged in the divorce petition that Chris, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."

This prompted the judge to issue a restraining order on Chris Benoit from entering their family home. In August 2003, his wife Nancy requested that the petition be dismissed. The couple later reconciled and celebrated Benoit’s WWE World Heavyweight Championship win at WrestleMania 20 in the ring together.


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