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Hardkore Kidd J 12-14-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3356380)
Yankees fans are cracking me up nationwide. There seems to be tons of them going on and on about how glad they are that the Yankees didn't sign Lee or Crawford, because they aren't any good.
Suddenly they're frugal and content with a quiet offseason.
Give me a break.

I don't get that. I am glad we did not get Crawford. Don't get me wrong I love Crawford but not a 7 year contract. 3 years? AMAZING Contract. 4 years: Still pretty good. By year five he'll be reaching his decline if he doesn't get it even sooner.

I am not glad that we didn't get Lee or Crawford. I am glad that we don't have Crawford for 7 years. Lee would have been excellent to have but we have other options.

And I'm not ready to call it a "Quiet off season" just yet. We just signed Martin. We might just be coming out of the gate slow. Let's see if they really wow someone and trade for a Josh Johnson or something. (Even though we'd get pretty fleeced for him)

ClockShot 12-14-2010 05:47 PM

Lyle Overbay to the Pirates.

Matt Stairs to the Nationals.

Gerald Laird to the Cardinals.

Jeritron 12-14-2010 05:49 PM

lol Matt Stairs

Hardkore Kidd J 12-14-2010 05:52 PM

Did the Nats think Stairs is a better choice then Derek Lee?

Triple Naitch 12-14-2010 06:14 PM

Minor league deal

Hardkore Kidd J 12-14-2010 06:18 PM

Oh, well that makes sense.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-14-2010 08:20 PM

Cardinals have the two best defensive catchers in the majors now. Although neither of them can hit.

ClockShot 12-14-2010 08:58 PM

The Yankees sign.........to a minor league deal.............

















the legendary
























Mark Prior.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-14-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3356606)
The Yankees sign.........to a minor league deal.............

















the legendary
























Mark Prior.

Low risk move I like it. He'd be good to have just in case.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-14-2010 09:50 PM

First Wood and now Prior. The Yankees are probably just bringing them in so they can personally apologize to Joba Chamerblain for scaring the Yanks into stifling his career.

Aguakate 12-14-2010 10:46 PM

Skip Bayless:

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dablackguy 12-14-2010 10:56 PM

Bayless is an idiot. There's so much wrong with his logic that I don't have the time or energy to point out right now

dablackguy 12-14-2010 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3356305)
<font color=goldenrod>I don't mind Evan Roberts, but Joe Benigno can fuck right off. Most Mets fans can be pessimistic at times, myself included - but he sucks the joy out of absolutely everything.

I'll never forget the massive rejoice in 2008 when the Mets traded Santana, only for Joe to be like "He's probably going to blow out his elbow or something"</font>

:y:

The Mets could win 12 in a row in September and he'd be saying that they're gonna collapse again

dablackguy 12-14-2010 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3356380)
Yankees fans are cracking me up nationwide. There seems to be tons of them going on and on about how glad they are that the Yankees didn't sign Lee or Crawford, because they aren't any good.
Suddenly they're frugal and content with a quiet offseason.
Give me a break.

The problem is that their front office and the Yankee supporters spit the retarded rhetoric and the fans drink the kool-aid, allowing them to rewrite history to some degree.

I think it was some writer who said that he was glad they found out Lee wasn't going to work out in NY before it was too late. Which is odd, considering the bucketful of cash the Yankees wanted to give him and then the second bucketful with the additional year - then the flying down to his home and begging him to come here.

Clearly, they weren't concerned about it as of last week.

Loose Cannon 12-14-2010 11:10 PM

so the Yanks get punched sqaure in the face earlier this morning and they fire back with a Mark Prior signing :lol: April Fools right?

Jeritron 12-14-2010 11:11 PM

Skip Bayless is a monumental retard. Just a notch above Colin Cowherd.

Loose Cannon 12-14-2010 11:12 PM

yea, he gets paid to make retarded comments

Loose Cannon 12-14-2010 11:13 PM

hate that whole show where there's 4 people and that moron host presses the mute button

Aguakate 12-14-2010 11:15 PM

Bayless just says things to get people riled up and make himself controversial.

Triple Naitch 12-14-2010 11:20 PM

Lol the Philly news stations are praising Cliff Lee for being selfless and not caring about money. In the end, he's still making $24 million per year.

dablackguy 12-14-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3356713)
Lol the Philly news stations are praising Cliff Lee for being selfless and not caring about money. In the end, he's still making $24 million per year.

Well he did leave 40 or 50 million on the table....

Aguakate 12-14-2010 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3356713)
Lol the Philly news stations are praising for Cliff Lee being selfless and not caring about money. In the end, he's still making $24 million per year.

I know, right? Everybody's like "Oh, Cliff Lee shows us that for some athletes, it's really not all about the money".

Dude's making $24 million per year. Since when does making $24 million a year signify not caring about the dough? Yeah, he would've made more money with the Yankees and Rangers, but it's not like he took a 2 year deal worth $10 million to pitch for the A's or anything.

dablackguy 12-14-2010 11:23 PM

Also, never understood what the difference is between 90 and 120 million dollars is. I mean, is there really something you can do with 120 that you couldn't afford with 90? I feel like Ryan Braun said something to this affect when he signed his contract. Its kinda true IMO.

Triple Naitch 12-14-2010 11:25 PM

Gilbert Arenas said it. "What can I buy with $120 million that I can't buy with $100 million?"

McLegend 12-14-2010 11:43 PM

I can buy stuff that's worth 120 million.

McLegend 12-15-2010 12:31 AM

Why did I not think of the phrase "Cliff Lee took his talents to South Street?"

I'm upset with my self.

Dragon 12-15-2010 12:43 AM

If Pettitte doesn't come back to the Yankees for the start of next year I would be disappointed if he didn't at least make a Clemens-esque triumphant return around the All-Star Break to save our season, complete with Suzyn Waldman hysteria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdtn0Z4o8cM

Hardkore Kidd J 12-15-2010 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 3356702)
so the Yanks get punched sqaure in the face earlier this morning and they fire back with a Mark Prior signing :lol: April Fools right?

Well Lee was the best option on the free agent market wait a few days they'll get back. And think about this The Yankees beat out Red Sox and Blue Jays for Russel Martin.

And beat out Texas for Mark Prior. Mark Prior was also pursued by the Rangers.

Aguakate 12-15-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J (Post 3357127)
Well Lee was the best option on the free agent market wait a few days they'll get back. And think about this The Yankees beat out Red Sox and Blue Jays for Russel Martin.

And beat out Texas for Mark Prior. Mark Prior was also pursued by the Rangers.

...and what have those two done lately?

Supreme Olajuwon 12-15-2010 09:56 AM

Was listening to Stephen A. Smith this morning (his show's actually not bad) and they were talking about how Cliff Lee's kid has cancer and Philadelphia has a better children's hospital than Dallas and New York. So if that's the reason he took less money, that actually makes a lot of sense.

YOUR Hero 12-15-2010 11:08 AM

Kinda Baffled how Matsui is signed for under 5 Million. Guy's numbers and history show he's for real. Kinda surprised my Jays didn't make a bid for him. He'd be a great fit, imo.

Waiting to see who signs Randy Gregg. I believe the Jays get a #1 pick from whomeever inks him to a deal. - LOL

McLegend 12-15-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3357185)
Was listening to Stephen A. Smith this morning (his show's actually not bad) and they were talking about how Cliff Lee's kid has cancer and Philadelphia has a better children's hospital than Dallas and New York. So if that's the reason he took less money, that actually makes a lot of sense.

How come this hasn't come out before?

YOUR Hero 12-15-2010 11:20 AM

Before what?

McLegend 12-15-2010 11:26 AM

Before anything... That stuff usually comes out. That's obviously more important reason to come to Philadelphia over anything else even the money.

I'm just surprised I haven't heard that before.

Innovator 12-15-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero (Post 3357239)
Kinda Baffled how Matsui is signed for under 5 Million. Guy's numbers and history show he's for real. Kinda surprised my Jays didn't make a bid for him. He'd be a great fit, imo.

Waiting to see who signs Randy Gregg. I believe the Jays get a #1 pick from whomeever inks him to a deal. - LOL

Matsui's knees couldn't handle the turf when he occasionally played in Toronto, even just running the bases.

Adder 12-15-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by McLegend (Post 3357258)
Before anything... That stuff usually comes out. That's obviously more important reason to come to Philadelphia over anything else even the money.

I'm just surprised I haven't heard that before.

I recall when he was in Philly during the playoff push there was talk of his son and cancer. So it was known.

Dragon 12-15-2010 01:34 PM

I heard the stuff about Lee's kid before but everyone I saw write about it assumed the hospital he wanted to be near was in Texas I think. Guess they assumed wrong.

And I guess the contract he took from Philly really wasn't as huge a difference as first thought.

He gets a 5 year $120M deal with a vesting option for a 6th year at $27.5M (or 12.5M buyout).

Yankees offered most guaranteed at $148M. Rangers offered $138M guaranteed with an option that could have brought it to $161M.

McLegend 12-15-2010 01:40 PM

Interesting, becasue I've never heard anything about his child with cancer.

I hear it's really easy to get that option for the 6th year. So the contract is basically is guaranteed $147.5 million.

Innovator 12-15-2010 02:46 PM

AW someone in Seattle listened to me...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...age_of_ya.html

Innovator 12-15-2010 02:47 PM

AHAHAHA the comments on the blog there are amazing. Cano and Hughes for Felix.


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