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I like Tony, but there’s something a bit WCW about him calling a wrestling show on TNT. They’ve already got JR. Excalibur is fine (not great). Just let him call it with JR.
Going to be so weird hearing JR trying to get around Orange Cassidy’s stuff. Cody hires this guy and calls him “Jim fucking Ross,” but then you trot him out there to call joke stuff? This project is VERY schizophrenic. I am trying to detach myself so I don’t get heartbroken if this ruins alternatives to WWE with networks. The cynic in me is morbidly curious to see how people take it. |
Weeks 4 & 5 of AEWonTNT will be:
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Pittsburgh should pack 'em in. West Virginia might be their first test.
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Richmond Coliseum should be set up for 10-12,000 I would think, and Pittsburgh maybe 8-10. They could easily do what WWE does and cut the arena's in half but I'm hoping they don't. I hate how WWE's big screen cuts off so much arena. Every arena has a screen, and the entrance ramp could be a lot more "sports authentic" than we've seen in the past. But considering Fyter Fest, I doubt it.
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$80 front row for Richmond. Amazing.
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All In worked because there was only one moment of cringe in it. It was one more moment than necessary (Seriously, I had to explain Joey Fucking Ryan to my Dad.), but didn't bring the whole show down. AEW thus far looks more like a big budget PWG than a big budget All In, and that is going to cause them problems in the long run. |
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Just want to put my two cents on Orange Cassidy.
I saw him at Lost In New York, I had never herd of him. He certainly made me laugh in a gimmick ladder match. But when you watch him you do have to shift your focus to "the fun bullshit" part of the show. And tbh that's not something I really care to see on AEW. It's fine when you are doing a rebel show like Spring Break but on a mainstream network to take the piss out of everything like that... Now like I said I do enjoy Cassidy, so I'm curious to see what happens. When I hear Tony talk about AEW I like everything he's thinking and planning. It seems to me that the Bucks and Kenny have an obsession with that DDT style and are going to incorporate it. I guess we shall see how it goes. Still very excited for AEW. But I guess my impression was that AEW was going to be sold as a sport. I hope they stick with that. |
The sports stuff was mostly about presentation and how wins-losses would matter more than how its handled in WWE and everything changing on a whim based on Vince's mood that day.
Like think more towards NJPW for a reference on what they are going for on paper. They already do post-match press conference and try to frame the action as more pro wrestling/sports-oriented than WWE's theatrical and promo-based style. You still get your share of comedic stuff and character-based talent since you need that variety in the roster to keep things fresh and interesting in the long run. |
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Like, Shawn Spears hitting Cody with a chair was brilliant. He has great motivation too. He doesn’t want to just be a solid hand. He’s a main eventer (in his eyes) that has just never had the shot. So fuck Cody and over a decade of friendship, he’s going to take the advice of a legend who made some real money in wrestling. It’s immersive and has years of history. Then, in the most show conference, two of your EVPs talk about how the chair was gimmicked. What is the point of trying to create this tension for a pay-off if the bosses are just going to try and snap you out of it? I actually don’t understand it. It’s like flipping the lights during an intense play. |
According to PWI, TNT is going to air a one hour AEW special on August 30th at 10PM EST as both an introduction to the company and as the final hype for AEW's All Out event.
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When it comes to wrestling on TV I want them to keep kayfabe. Simple as that. And yeah I'd prefer they keep kayfabe in the presser and not pull back the curtain to say things like "oh that wasn't supposed to happen" or "What happend wuz" or "the gimmick didn't work as planned" etc... No you won't be able to convince me wrestling is legit competition but you can make me believe even for a moment (and it's worth it) that someone went too far, went into business for himself, you can through confidence and commitment make stories seem real. Real enough so that you don't feel the need to expose that they are fake. As I mentioned earlier I was looking to that sports element talked about for AEW. But in all likelihood it won't be stronger than NJPW's presentation. I just don't see how it can be. Maybe it's because it's in a language I can't understand but it's quite easy to suspend your smarter belief and buy into moments (many) of realism regularly produced by NJPW. |
The thing with New Japan's backstage interview press scrum is that the journalists are in on the act, they aren't asking questions about the production aspects, spots, botches or how they safely land on their necks so often. Most of the time they don't ask any questions at all, they just let the guys do their promo and play along. You're not going to get that with the western dirt shirt guys because they're all about scoops and getting themselves over.
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I don’t watch a lot of NJPW but the bits I’ve seen (Including The Recount recap videos on their YouTube channel) have some great little nuances that add to the presentation, and their long form storytelling is superb. I like their presentation.
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They’re not going to keep kayfabe. It’s a dirty word to those guys.
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Well said, Mantis.
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Why haven't they announced a match for MJF at All Out? If he doesn't cut a promo I'm going to ask for a refund.
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Another good signing, Goldenboy was great on commentary at Fyter Fest
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welcome aboard!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> <a href="https://t.co/9MwKgW8dpk">https://t.co/9MwKgW8dpk</a></p>— Alex Marvez (@alexmarvez) <a href="https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/1164333418945097728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Yeah Goldenboy was good. But yeah they may have "too many" announcers, maybe not. Might as well get Tenay in to call Luchasaurus matches too.
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Week 6 of AEW remains in the Eastern U.S., Charlotte NC. Tony Schiavone confirmed as signing w AEW on latest Being The Elite'.
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Kenny promo on BTE was great.
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If you guys here look at post #75 in this thread, made back on Jan. 3 of this year, I floated Tony Schiavone's name in respect to the play-by-play commentary table, and it looks like I nailed it back then. Link below for refresher.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While the Schiavone announcement from AEW is worded to make it sound like Tony is joining the commentary team, I'm told that's not the case. He'll just be on the overall broadcast team. <a href="https://t.co/52nVFYUcJm">https://t.co/52nVFYUcJm</a></p>— Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1166027992746745856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UPDATE: Sources say Schiavone may EVENTUALLY join the commentary team. AEW is currently focused on All Out. Tony was previously committed to University of Georgia football on the 31st.<br><br>I'm told an eventual reunion w/ JR is likely.<br><br>For now, Tony is being used as a utility player</p>— Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1166062448698220546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
that's what tony wanted to do with the wwe be a producer, wonder aew can get him away from the other sports jobs he does with in the next year.
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Tony calling the action with Jr chiming in sounds so good. I love Tony's naturalsense if urgency in big moments.
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Honestly AEW is so up against the wall. You've essentially got Cody, Kenny, Jericho, Mox and The Bucks vs WWE.
I know the PPV hasn't happened yet but I am feeling worried about Hangman, he hasn't been built up as a serious contender for Jericho, I have no faith that he will be the first Champion, nor should he be. But they could've been building up that story, but they really have left it flat. I did like Kenny's recent promo on BTE. It's interesting though that he didn't play a traditional face or heel, right down the middle. I don't see Kenny as the main face of AEW right now. Maybe cause of his record so far IDK. I need to see that 6 star Kenny. Still looking forward to Wednesday Night Wrestling so bad. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rise up for the revolution. <br><br>The Countdown to All Out special is on THIS FRIDAY night at 10/9c on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://t.co/HeURJrDdAc">pic.twitter.com/HeURJrDdAc</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling on TNT (@AEWonTNT) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT/status/1166841982506848261?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I've been thinking about AEW and the immediate future as far as main story booking goes. I think that AEW is in pretty good shape as far as main events go right now. If they keep a strong story for each of the main guys (Jericho, Cody, Mox, Omega & The Bucks) then I think they can go at a much slower pace than WWE does when it comes to plowing through programs/feuds.
AEW Championship I'm thinking Jericho has to win this. AEW hasn't done much to build Hangman Page to a point where he should win the Championship first. Plus it will fit right into Jericho's career motif of big time Championships. But where do we go from there? There is supposed to be a AEW Championship on an upcoming episode of AEW on TNT. I'm thinking a possible rematch, Jericho (c) vs Page. Perhaps Jericho cheats to win at ALL OUT and this rematch comes up that way. That seems pretty basic to me so I hope for something else. Jericho vs Spears might be better if Spears looks strong against Cody. However having a former WWE mid carder in the first big time main event on TNT may not be the best look. I'd go balls to the wall and promote MJF to challenge Jericho for that first AEW Championship defense. I can only imagine how fun that would be. Perhaps MJF saves Cody's ass against Spears and that ends up going towards this shot. Also hopefully a couple of big wins as well. MJF and Jericho on TV would probably be legendary. It's a bid odd that Omega is hung up with Pac and Mox, I think it will be some time before we see the rematch with Jericho. Whenever the last PPV of the year is I think we will see Jericho vs Omega with Omega taking the AEW Championship. I've felt that way since the spring, that Jericoh and Omega would rematch for the title and Omega would win. However you could sell me a Jericho year plus long title reign, set the tone for the biggest championship in AEW. |
I’d love Jericho to be the first champion. First of all, you’ll only ever have one first champion. It should be a name that will forever put a good look on your title. Secondly, putting the title on a guy and THEN trying to build him up is such a WWE thing to do and it’s the main reason their titles mean shit now. It would be much better to start off with a great heel champion once you start weekly TV and then use the show to build up stars before eventually letting one of them take the title off of him.
That being said, I’m afraid they’re going with Hangman because he seems to be the “chosen one” and the slow burn is a lost art. Really hope they have the ability to think long-term though. |
Jericho has to be the first champion. And I think he's going to be champion for awhile. But he's going to be an enhancement champion, if that makes sense. He's going to be booked strong while making other guys look good and AEW is going to use the chase to beat Jericho to build up multiple people to main event/star level in the company before pulling the trigger and having someone beat him. This way you have a bunch of viable contenders for the big title ready once it starts floating around instead of only a small number of guys over enough for the spot light. Makes for a better division in the long run.
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Jericho needs to go over Page, Mox, and Cody at least. Probably MJF too. He can lose via shenanigans within the feuds, but in the end he needs to keep the title the whole time. Omega needs to be in the mix with these same people as well and be built up organically during the process. I'd probably throw PAC and a couple others in with some of these guys as well, boost them a bit too. Then eventually pull the trigger on Omega and have him go over Jericho clean af with Jericho trying every dirty trick he can think of in the process and it still not working.
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Can’t wait for Cult of Personality to hit on Saturday only for MJF to walk out
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I’d officially predict Jericho, but Page winning would not shock me.
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$60 for the PPV through the cable provider.
Same price as the last time, and still pretty steep. I'd figure they'd knock it down a bit. I'll buy this time around just so I'm "ready" for when launch comes in October. |
Watching it at a friend's house and we're splitting the cost. $60 is really steep, tho. If they're only found a handful of ppv shows a yr that's fine. But God helpthem if end up going monthly.
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Hey just a warning, if any of you malcontents even THINK about trying anything, I'll edit your posts so fast your heads will spin.
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Drebin is almost there. He will have a live report while standing over the beaten body of that MONSTER, Kenton Lane.
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I need a stream, I cant do 60 bucks uhg
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Why isn’t there a thread?
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I will make one
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The next PPV is November 9 in Baltimore. It's called "Full Gear."
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Make the thread and I'll go ahead and sticky it
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I want to see one Orange Cassidy match...
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Orange Cassidy vs. Brock Lesnar, please.
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Seems AEW might have hired Tommy Dreamer to a producer/agent position in the company since he was seen working backstage during last night's All Out show.
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Andrew Yang is ALL ELITE
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a> - I’m rooting for <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> to help make the industry more talent-friendly. <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> ����</p>— Andrew Yang (@AndrewYang) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1168353888493363200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
He had my vote before. Now, he has my heart.
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Bully is ROH Mark Henry still does WWE stuff mostly as an ambassador Tommy Dreamer is doing AEW, HoH |
Pretty sure Dreamer will work with any company. Also works with Impact.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m seeing lots of complaints concerning Jericho being “too old” to be AEW World Champ.<br><br>Well, I’ve got a fact for you. Jericho is the youngest AEW World Champ in company history.</p>— Wrestle Features (@WrestleFeatures) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleFeatures/status/1168206515917996032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Doesn't bother me at all, they needed an established name who was not one of the Exec VP's bc they needed star power and Hangman isn't there yet.
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Agreed. Jericho was their best option. He's a heel, he's over, he's got worldwide credibility and now they can use him to put over whoever they decide is their first babyface champ, who I'm guessing will be Omega.
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I'm stoked Jericho is champ, he is the biggest star they have.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jericho Has Championship Belt Stolen Or Lost<a href="https://t.co/6Pjhftur1G">https://t.co/6Pjhftur1G</a></p>— Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168987830858764291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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For a special that wasn't really promoted this is good, I didn't think there was much interest in it. Means the actual show could do double or triple that number.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The AEW countdown special from this past Friday night averaged 390,000 viewers on TNT</p>— John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1168983545643184129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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I know they said no long promos, but the first TNT show should start out with Adam Page cutting a "shoot" promo that he wouldn't have let the title get stolen, and demanding a rematch that very night! |
Make him carry the Women's Title until they find it.
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Jericho probably put it down while doing vodka shots.
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Not for TNT since it doesn't seem whatever TNT had for the 10PM hour the week before cracked the Top 150 based on Showbuzz's chart. Also would put it within the 300k-500k range people are speculating as a safe guess for AEW's weekly show early on.
That special with very little advertising managed to be #29 for the night. Based on a bit more digging, TNT only cracked the Top 150 one other time last month and that was due to them airing a movie for most of primetime. |
It was more than double what usually airs....
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a>, heard some Judas stole your championship belt. We've got plenty of cardboard... want a new one? <a href="https://t.co/V5ErXedVjI">https://t.co/V5ErXedVjI</a></p>— Arby's (@Arbys) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arbys/status/1169007783674617860?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/Arbys?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@arbys</a>, Im all good. Save the cardboard to make your sandwiches... <a href="https://t.co/kOD58VnaFC">https://t.co/kOD58VnaFC</a></p>— Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1169045516480589824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We take the safety of our guests' property seriously and are doing everything we can to help the local authorities in their efforts. That said, <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a> is a champion with or without his belt.</p>— LongHorn Steakhouse (@LongHornSteaks) <a href="https://twitter.com/LongHornSteaks/status/1169006931874406403?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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They are totally going to turn this real life thing into a story, making lemonade outta lemons
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING NEWS! <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> Champion has Title Belt stolen in grand heist.... <a href="https://t.co/k6K4qxSnt9">pic.twitter.com/k6K4qxSnt9</a></p>— Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1169052081451413504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Bounty for the Belt will be a future AEW PPV.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This tweet will probably result in some kind of sponsorship that will result in me getting put in an Outback Blooming Onion deathmatch....</p>— Bad Boy Joey Janela (@JANELABABY) <a href="https://twitter.com/JANELABABY/status/1169039347112431617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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We are on the case!
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Would be the perfect time to transition the Librarians into detective gimmicks.
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I can save you all time and energy. It was Rikishi. He did it... for The Rock.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update: Tallahassee Police Department finds <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a>'s stolen championship belt ... <a href="https://t.co/2R0GCkrEiu">pic.twitter.com/2R0GCkrEiu</a></p>— Jeffrey Burlew (@JeffBurlew) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffBurlew/status/1169249331821654016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Rowan stole the belt.
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Another example of SlikJaw Investigations doing all the leg work and the local cops taking all the credit.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Case of the Missing <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a> Championship Belt takes another turn. The Tallahassee Police Department announces on Facebook it found the belt but hastily deletes the post. <a href="https://twitter.com/TallyPD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TallyPD</a> now says it can't confirm the belt was found and calls the case "open and active" ...</p>— Jeffrey Burlew (@JeffBurlew) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffBurlew/status/1169253454457577474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Cops prob "found" a replica belt or something from someone trolling
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I guess it was found... kinda feel like the person running AEW's Twitter account is kinda "dumb" though (lots of typos and stuff in previous posts) so hopefully they are not just basing this on the deleted Facebook post
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Case solved .. thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/TallyPD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TallyPD</a> <a href="https://t.co/DOGLBNwxea">pic.twitter.com/DOGLBNwxea</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1169259151618453504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Pretty sure it was Drake Maverick, now he can finally bone his wife
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Think slik means in regards to TNT which is true at least going back the last two months on Showbuzz.
During that time frame, they only charted 2 other times in the Top 150 and the cutoff for some weeks went as low as 100k. In regards to new or live stuff, last thing that tracked from TNT was a soccer match that did around 168k but that aired at 8PM. In terms of 10PM comparisons, Showbuzz stated AEW's special was in the average for viewers and demo numbers. |
Why would anyone think a last-minute special of rehashed footage, with very little promo, doing almost 400k viewers on a Friday night at 10pm would be a bad thing?
I don't get that, at all. |
Who moved these? Now it looks like I spammed this thread instead of making fun of the other two threads
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I guess I gotta delete my posts then
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I spent a bunch of time coming up with these and some one just buries/deletes them in this thread to make me look bad. Fuck this, coming back to post here was a mistake. I can't escape bullying even when im posting on a freaking wrestling board from like 2001.
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