I heard it was about some girls who wanted to be fish but they couldnt breathe underwater

You just see Gilmore Girls DNA all over Maisel (actors, execution, joke style, dialogue rhythm, etc.). Maisel is much funnier and better acted with a far superior premise with a broader appeal. But Gilmore Girls has its charm if you get over the fact it's written for 15-year-old girls and their moms.

Maisel's final season was fulfilling, with some (expected) bumps along the way. I'll say more when Destor is done because I don't want to spoil anything.

Gilmore Girls is a fag show

Like you said, Seanny, I know who I am.

(a fag)

Join the ranks! Embrace your inner cocker sucker and know true happiness!

There was a less gay but still very gay show called “Being Erica” that women also mistakenly believed to be intelligently written. Her brother got bummed by a whole fraternity.

They could bring it back as “Being Erica’s Brother” and every episode is another frat guy going all “The Accused” on him with a broom handle.
It would still have a higher laugh count than the Gilmore Girls.

Yeah I wouldn’t say Gilmore girls is all that funny. It definitely tries to be but is too lost in its quirk/butthole. I think I just like it because of the heart and the world building. Plus I have a soft spot for the shows of that era.

I also like Lauren Graham. Again, not super funny, but she's charming and self-assured as a performer.

She was alright in Bad Santa but that’s about it. She even sucked in Curb.

The only shows from that time that matter are sitcoms, Oz and The Sopranos.

Grounded For Life was underrated!

Yes! Grounded for Life! Holy shit I totally forgot that show existed.

Also Curb existed in that time period. It’s that old. I think it started in 2002.

Curb started in 1999 with a special, probably served as a pilot for the show which started in 2000.

I think I started watching it around ‘04, pretty sure I was out of school.
It’s essentially the same character as Alan Partridge, cultural differences aside. It’s hard not to see the influence, in fact that’s how my mate sold the show to me.

I’d add X-Files to that.

Buffy, you bastards.

I watch buffy once every year or two.

Buffy bordered on appointment-watching in the late 90s.

Buffy was pretty good for a few seasons. The ensemble got too big for my liking though.

Wonder what the guy that played Xander is up to these days…

Well that wasn’t surprising but it was quite a sad little Wiki search. That guy is going to get sober and then suddenly drop dead.

The best “I wonder what that guy is up to now?” searches were the gay cop in The Shield and half sack from Sons Of Anarchy. Nutters.

Lol poor xander

Yeah things haven’t been good for Nicholas Brendon.

One episode left to go in The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel

Won't be able to watch it until Tuesday though....

Buffy suffers from what a lot of top TV shows succumb to: the first three seasons are gold, and then the decline sets in and is terminal.

Strongly disagree. The highschool era is definitely great but 5 and 6 are the best 2 seasons of the show. Marti Noxon taking over as show runner for season 4 while Joss worked on Firefly left it in shambles (but s4 has some real high points Emmy nominated "Hush," Spike being the funniest character on television and Anya's fear of bunnies in Fear Itself.)

Season 7 however has about 5 quality episodes. Namely Conversations with Dead People (featuring Pedro Pascal,) Him (as funny as any Buffy ep,) Slefless, Lies My Parents Told Me, and The Killer in Me. Its a mess of a season.

But the show kicks it into its 2nd phase when they leave high school and maybe you prefer it but the idea that the spike years are "downhill" is just ridiculous. Anya > Cordy as the hapless comic relief and Spike > Angel as the towns vampire we dont stake. Season 5, despite Dawn is the strongest written season complete with the most powerful 42 minutes ever put to TV with The Body and s6 is is the funniest season as a whole with what most people consider the best big bad outside of s2.

tl;dr dems fighten werds

But as far as best buffy seasons if anyone picked 2,3,5 or 6 i really couldnt give any push back on any of them. All 4 are extremely excellent.

Now my pick for best season is s5 of Angel but thats a whole other conversation...

Oh! S7 also has Storyteller. Great ep.

The latter seasons of Buffy are still watchable, and as you pointed out there are quality episodes, but for me there is something lacking.

Spike is always glorious.

I just spent good time trying to pinpoint when I stopped watching it and it was pretty much the moment Marc Blucas showed up. He played some muscular action man and I’m sure Buffy beats him up before they fuck or some shit.

Whatever… every show like that is just trying to be Kolchak again.

Buffy rant inbound:

Buffy couldve had 4 reasonable end points across its run.

The 1st is the s1 finale. Season 1 was low budget Californian spin on the classic monster tropes. And season 1 had a fully realised narrative that wrapped the plot and all subplots up with a bow. Had it not gotten picked up for a second season that wouldve been a perfectly good ending.

But it did get picked up and good for me that it did. The next two seasons are the peak of the shows ratings and are the rest of the high school run. By the end of season 2 all the remaining classic horror monsters had been used save Dracula and the romeo and juliette arc had been fully played out to wonderfullytragic ends. S3 really devles into the interpersonal relationships in the biggest way yet and becomes the blueprint for the rest of the series in many ways. When its all said and done Angel leaves the series and highschool comes to an end.

"Oz: Guys. Take a moment to deal with this. We survived.

Buffy: ..It was a hell of a battle.

Oz: Not the battle... High School."

And right there you couldve ended the series. I think a lot of people did even before the s4 struggles. Buffy for them was a highschool drama and in that vein it had ran its course. S3 has some outstanding episodes though one of my favorites being The Zeppo. Always look forward to seeing it come around when i do a rewatch. Top 10 ep for me easy.

Season 4 definitely lost a lot of viewers, Seanny included. Martin Noxons military antagonists clashed against the freedom of the themes the college setting provided and the scripts and new chracters were over all pretty weak. Spike and Anya are what hold the season together though. Theyre never not funny. And The Yokko Factor is peak interpersonal conflict. The final 10 min is just outstanding. Worth the seaspn build up for that alone.

The show survived and got to its next potential ending, and in my opinion the best ending outside of season 1, which season 1 is pretty objectively is the most tightly written. As fan though s5 is the most satisfying. This marked the end of the shows run on the WB so killing your protagonist before jumping networks is a pretty ballsy play. But s5 has some really high highs. The Dawn character gets some flack but she occupies very little screen time and any season that has something as powerful as The Body, the most grueling 44 minutes ever aired on network TV, cant be bad. And out of the 22 eps theres some real bangers. 12 classic eps at minimum. Oh we finally get Dracula.

The UPN seasons have the 4th ending and its the worst potential ending out of any of them but im getting ahead of myself. Season 6 is a fucking master piece. It has the longest hot streak of top tier eps in the series. It juggles, and satisfies like 5 subplots built across the season and has a climax on par with anything in the run. All the while being incredibly funny. Plus Buffy fucks a building to rubble. Cmon.

Season 7 is a convoluted mess. Its has some cool shit though. Nathon Fillion as Caleb is just fucking aces. "I aint done with you yet...bitch." is one of my favorite villain moments ever. And what happens next is one of my favorite hero moments ever. Principle Wood is the series first top tier new character in years, maybe since Anya all the way back in season 3 really. But ultimately its too busy and unfocused. The overarching plot being about all women instead of the gang detracts from the comradery thats been the core of the show up until this point. Oh! Andrew is great. Theres a new character from s6 that works out great. Fuck the whole Trio is just aces cant believe i skipped over them.

Anyhow looked at from a distance the show reinvents itself multiple times across its run and is very distinct from itself. I think thats to its benefit. Season 7 sucks because well it wasnt meant to be the last season and SMG said she was done so they just had to make it work but i think the show was getting better and better the further away they got from being a teen highschool drama. Which isnt to say i dont love the highschool seasons because i really love those 3 seasons.

This is all to say nothing of Angel which i also think got better as it went on with season 1 being VERY meh and s5 crushing all the other 11 buffyverse seasons pretty easily. A Whole in the World alone...fuck...so good. Smile Time... anyways before i get distracted thats a whole other rant..and honestly there's not much id reather talk about at length than buffy the vampire slayer.

Finished Maisel. Its perfect. I wont go further until lockjaw finishes it but yeah. Loved it.

There was one ep that didn’t land for me and it was the roast (I know LJ was that far). Like there were things that were fun about it but it came across like “we can’t tie these loose ends up so let’s tie them all up in one episode that doesn’t require any real cohesiveness.”

I loved the finale tho.

The guest cast for the roast almost made up for the fact that the episode was a total cop out.

I thought that was the best episode of the entire series

You arent hearing what happened. You're hearing the legend of what happened. Everyone is an unreliable narrator. So it gives the audience a window into what would've been 20 seasons to work through but it also lets the stories be ridiculous and as funny as they need to be to suit the moment. Excellent narrative device.

Just didn't do it for me. Good performances but lazy writing.

On top of the various casting choices (shout out to Danny Strong aka Jonathan from Buffy) the emotional core of the ep is such a peak. The falling out in the synagogue with Midge and Susie is the most well acted scene in the series AND the resolution with the video at the end got me pretty good. Just loved it.

Strongly disagree on that 2nd part

It was more device than an episode of television.

We atleast agree the finale was great.and it was.

I dont see narrative devices as dirty words. But ok.

i liked the penultimate episode too. The scene with Abe at the table with his cohorts was captivating.

Tony Shalhoub could easily win an emmy for it

They aren't but they have to jive. I didn't feel it jiving. Felt more like jamming together non-fitting puzzle pieces.

I imagine ASP wanted to do that episode to build the legend of Susie and had it in mind for a while. But it was overegged pudding, IMO.

it's funny because that's basically the only episode of the entire run i didn't care for lol. Maybe i'll watch it down the line and feel differently.

To each their own. I could defend it but we'd be arguing over taste. I think it was very satisfying inside the confines of how the narrative was being doled out all season and it served to set up the final scene of the series and it managed to be extremely funny and having moments of peak sadness and tears of catharsis all inside 50ish minutes. It really blew me away with how tightly written it was.


You shouldn't be able to pull all that off inside 1 hour of tv. And you say they didnt, so fair enough. If i were to nominate an ep for this season to win the emmy, it would be that ep and that scene from the synagogue if the scene id send in.

Yeah I wouldn't begrudge anyone for liking it. TBH I'd prefer you did. It's a great show and i'd hope people love all the eps even when i didn't. The cast and crew deserve it.

I REALLY want a box set

PBS, currently

Buddy that lives down in Austin got to see the first 2 eps of S3 TRG. He usually doesn't get pumped for shows but said they're fucking hilarious.


(The Righteous Gemstones Season 3, Episodes 1 and 2 @ ATX TV Festival)

Finished up Mrs. Maisel

Obviously theyre putting a bow on everything but the question is is it a satisfying way to do it. I say its emphatically very satisfying. Instead of pulling the story away from the focus to tie up the 10 or so side characters they weave the central arc into several side arcs AND its not bogged down by tedious exposition.

Its as sharp and punchy as the rest of the show. With some of the higest drama in the series. Im all for it. Most shows wouldve given an episode to each side plot and then crammed our protagonist into 3 ep arc. Thats lazy writing. This was clever, fresh and economic. I dont see the negative.

what's most important is it was super weird watching Frank from Succession in Maisel.

Where are all the straight guys at

Posting on Instagram probably

Those are just confusing gay guys. Everything is so hard to identify nowadays.

Trannies are the fools gold of the sexual spectrum. Nobody wants it really, but some people will keep it once they have sunk the cost.

Hmmm, the lyrics to “I Wanna Be Adored” are more accurate than “Fool’s Gold” if you want to apply that crack to the music of The Stone Roses.

I don't have to sell my soul
He's already in me

Is he in you like Elliot Page was in Ellen Page all along, or is he in you like when your bike seat snaps off and you try to ride it anyway?

All this complaining about gay guys makes me think Seanny doth protest too much.

Just admit it, you're one of us.

At the very least I'd like to think I've infected you with the gay.

Calling everybody and everything gay is the most woke thing anybody could ever do.

Full circle, unlike gay bottoms.

go woke, go broke(n butthole).

Set my DVR to record the new episodes of Always Sunny that start tonight, and I already cracked up at the name of the second one.

Didn't even know it was happening until I saw my recordings just now. Just watched the first episode.

I've finished all three seasons of the Australian comedy-drama, Mr. Inbetween, which revolves around a free-lance hitman, as he juggles his criminal and family lives.

It's simple and doesn't break any new ground, but it's done so well. The series is the best show I've seen in awhile. I'll have to go back to the bollocks that is La Brea until I discover something else.

I doubt I'll be keeping Peacock once the free version goes away for Xfinity customers in a couple of weeks. So I've watched half of Bupkis and I find it the perfect type of off-the-rails.

Finished season 2 of La Brea. What a load of bollocks.

I'm currently in the middle of re-watching Arcane. Fuck, this series is fantastic.

I'm also in the early stages of watching season 3 of The Great. It remains entertaining, but they have toned down the more bonkers aspects of the series, which is to its detriment.

Over the past couple of days I've zoomed through the 8-part Netflix documentary on the Tour de France, which centres around the 2022 edition of the tour.

I thought the series ran out of steam once it got into the final couple of episodes, but otherwise I found it quite interesting. I don't think you need to be a fan of the tour to appreciate the series and the stories it tells. I didn't know that a few years prior to coming to prominence, Jonas Vingegaard (winner of the 2022 tour) was working in a fish packing warehouse; looked like a bleak existence to spend the next 30-40+ years of your life living.

Just finished the first episode of the new Black Mirrors. Great ep

holy shit. ep 2 is fucking the best episode of tv i've watched this year.

trying to milk these out. time to watch the season premiere of the righteous gemstones

nm. doesn't premiere until 10pm eastern. wtf

Me after watching the first episode of the new Black Mirror season

Been also watching Star Trek: TNG after finishing TOS.... "Whoa" @ this first season episode that I have no memory of that ended with Picard and Riker phasering a dude until his face melted, his head exploded, then his chest burst open and a big Alien-esque parasite/worm popped out of it........ that's pretty hardcore for Star Trek, especially TNG.

Just finished episode 2, was good, but not better than episode 1 by any stretch

I watched episode three “Beyond The Sea”. One of the best ever episodes, felt like Charlie Brooker taking the piss out of Hollywood by mimicking and surpassing Hollywood endings.

Unforgiving stuff but funny that even Brooker knows Aaron Paul must cry.

New season of The Righteous Gemstones.

Amen.

Watching “Centennial” a 1978 tv series about the history of a fictional town in Colorado which starts in the late 1700’s up until the 1970’s.
I’m only two episodes in but they are film-length so I’ll try to watch one a night. It’s good stuff, Robert Conrad and Richard Chamberlain play fur trappers that deal with the native population in the opening episodes and a very young Stephen McHattie appears momentarily too.

So far it’s classic fare in that they are fully PG in the sex and violence but ruthlessly glib about massacres, bigotry and generally distasteful attitudes. Basically you will see violence but it will be pretty unrealistic yet garnished with some breathtaking nastiness or worse, apathy.

I'll have to check this series out.

Of course, Seanny my boy, you still need to watch Jewel in the Crown.

I’m too wrapped up in Westerns now. I should never have broken the seal, now I can’t stop.

I guess Doctor Quinn: Medicine Woman and the the 90's Magnificent Seven series, with Ron Perlman and Michael Biehn, are also on your to watch list?

One was bad with a big budget, one was bad without.
So no.

I’m really enjoying “Centennial” so far. A Mennonite kissed a girl and got accused of rape so now he is being shunned. Lad just bought a wagon, no doubt he will flee to pioneer the plains or something.

Just watched this one, was incredible but devastating.

More episodes need Culkins

1883 - 3 episodes in and I don't wanna stop.


Tremendous.

I’ll go to my grave racing about the brilliance of that series. I tried to get into “Yellowstone” after I finished it but it’s just not the same.

Sam Elliot has never had a finer role.

I think it was episode 2 or 3 where he had a speech about gunfire cutting down forests that stole the show. Top class.

Yes! Heard that one last night and COT DAYUM son.....

Finished Amazon's Citadel.

A derivative spy show kept afloat by Stanley Tucci's charisma and Priyanka Chopra's pouty lips.

I still need to finish the last 4-5 eps of season 3 The Great, but we've got new Witcher and Jack Ryan coming out over the next couple of days.

Kudos to Seanny for not drooling over the Loch Henry episode. Scott!

Scott is a surname, not a nationality

Warrior got uncancelled on HBO. Gotta watch Ep1 of season 3 after I remember wtf happened in the previous 2 seasons.

Finishing black mirror today. Ep4 was dog shit.

I looked at the synopsis of each episode and only episode 3 sounded remotely entertaining. Based on what I did see of the others I’m not sure if changing the theme is a great idea this far into the game, it’s not like horror offers more than science fiction does for a writer and you can see Brooker struggles with it as a genre because his best episode is sci-fi in disguise.

Just remake “Solaris”, Charlie. Everybody else has had a go.

If you want "red mirror" to be a thing just make a spin off.

I’d like a “Red Shoe Diaries” remake done in a similar style.