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Evil Vito 04-04-2022 09:42 PM

MVP is a god damn jezebel!

rez 04-04-2022 09:42 PM

Well Imagine deez nuts draggin across your face. Aaaahhhhhh got eeeeeemmm!!!

slik 04-04-2022 09:43 PM

damn evil jezebel MVP

slik 04-04-2022 09:43 PM

Vito and I on the same page

Triple A 04-04-2022 09:43 PM

Bron Breakker armpits very pale

erickman 04-04-2022 09:44 PM

let's see what mvp does with omos

#1-norm-fan 04-04-2022 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5538401)
idk anything about them other than knowing they are a band

Me too

Triple A 04-04-2022 09:47 PM

seems like a good/eventful Raw so far

erickman 04-04-2022 09:51 PM

guess we won't get a womans tag match

slik 04-04-2022 09:52 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Veer Comes Hard On Dominik Mysterio, Forces Him To Submit; Unloads On Rey Mysterio On 4/4 WWE Raw <a href="https://t.co/soU7qlcQNt">https://t.co/soU7qlcQNt</a></p>&mdash; Fightful Wrestling (@Fightful) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fightful/status/1511153406697639937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 04-04-2022 10:05 PM

I hope Elias shows up with a painted-on beard next week, asking if anyone's seen his long-lost brother.

erickman 04-04-2022 10:13 PM

an fin eats the pin

slik 04-04-2022 10:15 PM

Edge's entrance is good

xrodmuc316 04-04-2022 10:18 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">See you tonight, <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://t.co/xda9U2IMvU">pic.twitter.com/xda9U2IMvU</a></p>&mdash; WWE on BT Sport (@btsportwwe) <a href="https://twitter.com/btsportwwe/status/1511079843395428358?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fignuts 04-04-2022 10:21 PM

lol "very telling, idiots"

erickman 04-04-2022 10:21 PM

we are sheep what kind of chant is that

Triple A 04-04-2022 10:23 PM

Gangrel needs to come back to spice this boring stable of boring guys up.......

Triple A 04-04-2022 10:25 PM

ok this is not that bad actually, Edge pretty charismatic

erickman 04-04-2022 10:25 PM

they need new chants

Triple A 04-04-2022 10:27 PM

Wish James Ellsworth wasn't a sexual predator and was back in WWE

Fignuts 04-04-2022 10:29 PM

Hell yeah, jamie noble champ

slik 04-04-2022 10:30 PM

I think Edge should be the top heel on RAW

slik 04-04-2022 10:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Fightful, <br><br>Rhea Ripley is a name that has been pitched for Edge's new stable. <a href="https://t.co/kKaX5Rmoag">pic.twitter.com/kKaX5Rmoag</a></p>&mdash; ChanMan (@ChandranTheMan) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChandranTheMan/status/1511092965732610049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#1-norm-fan 04-04-2022 10:35 PM

That’s a terrible name for a stable

Fenix122 04-04-2022 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5538429)
That’s a terrible name for a stable

LMAO

rez 04-04-2022 10:38 PM

Is the show kinda meh? I swear Vince goes to some Egyptian tomb to raise good writers for ONEEEEEEEEEEE WEEKEND ONLY. I've just watched a little of the Cody segment so far. NCAA game.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-04-2022 10:43 PM

Chad Table

slik 04-04-2022 10:46 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cody Rhodes will face Kevin Owens in the post-show dark match tonight.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1511173158379954177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tom Guycott 04-04-2022 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5538153)
They said the titles were unified into the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship but both titles are listed as separate on the website with the picture being Roman holding both. I'd guess he carries both belts around for a while, finally gets beaten only for Heyman to reveal fine print in the contract that it was the WWE title only, therefore splitting the belts again and keeping his Universal title run going.

There's no actual need for two World champions. The main reason they ever did it was for periods of time where they actually kept Raw and SmackDown completely separate including their own house shows and PPVs. But those days have been over for a while. Even when they still had split brand house shows, Lesnar was never defending the title on the Raw shows. So one World title is fine, but WWE can't help but default to excess so expect them to be split again soon enough.

Especially in time for SURVIVOR SERIES: THE ONE TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE EACH SHOW VIYES FOR SUPREMACY or whatever that shitty tagline is where they suddenly remember they the rosters were supposed to be split and strictly adhere to that... except where a feud gets in the way and then they magically forget again after the PPV is over.

Again, I personally have no problem with two world champs in and of itself, but the fucking company can't be assed to actually follow through with it on a regular basis.

They'll split again, and then overfocus on one while minimizing the other until they put that belt on someone they decide to push to the moon but let the original focused belt suffer for it.

You know: normal WWE shit.

Tom Guycott 04-04-2022 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slikhausen (Post 5538414)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Veer Comes Hard On Dominik Mysterio, Forces Him To Submit; Unloads On Rey Mysterio On 4/4 WWE Raw <a href="https://t.co/soU7qlcQNt">https://t.co/soU7qlcQNt</a></p>&mdash; Fightful Wrestling (@Fightful) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fightful/status/1511153406697639937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But did he "come on him like the wrath of God"? like Rusev threatened to do to Jim Cornette?

slik 04-04-2022 10:59 PM

Roman's face looks like he is in so much pain

Tom Guycott 04-04-2022 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slikhausen (Post 5538428)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Fightful, <br><br>Rhea Ripley is a name that has been pitched for Edge's new stable. <a href="https://t.co/kKaX5Rmoag">pic.twitter.com/kKaX5Rmoag</a></p>&mdash; ChanMan (@ChandranTheMan) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChandranTheMan/status/1511092965732610049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No. They're not knocking at the door...

Fignuts 04-04-2022 11:01 PM

Thats it?

rez 04-04-2022 11:09 PM

4 pages for a day after WM thread...

I blame the NCAA bball champ game.

slik 04-04-2022 11:10 PM

@ rez

any aew commercials on tbs during NCAA game

Evil Vito 04-04-2022 11:11 PM

LOL at the new unified champion’s first promo just boiling down to “watch SmackDown please!”

rez 04-04-2022 11:11 PM

nah

slik 04-04-2022 11:13 PM

smh @ tbs

Triple A 04-04-2022 11:28 PM

@slik tie game with like 2 mins left... "ur boys" Kansas playing

rez 04-04-2022 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slikhausen (Post 5538449)
smh @ tbs

probably just want the advertising $ from Nissan, GMC, etc.

rez 04-04-2022 11:31 PM

Biggest payday for TBS this year fo sho

Tom Guycott 04-04-2022 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5538390)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look at this handsome man!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://t.co/jeTHCbd55p">pic.twitter.com/jeTHCbd55p</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1511144572449087498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It took me a bit to think of who he reminded me of now... the whole clean shaven Vance Archer WWE run. Only Elias doesn't have a tramp stamp.

Yet.

rez 04-04-2022 11:43 PM

cool. either way Roy Williams was gonna be happy

Lock Jaw 04-04-2022 11:43 PM

Just watched the Cody Rhodes segment.... dunno.... can't buy him as "the" world champion.... If they do split the titles again then sure, give him one of them, why not, it doesn't mean anything.... but if there is only one world title, I just don't see him as on that level.... IC/US Title level yeah.... AEW World Title level sure he could have been, but the single guy on top of WWE... I don't see it ever happening...

slik 04-04-2022 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5538452)
@slik tie game with like 2 mins left... "ur boys" Kansas playing


Hell yeah @ KU winning with the biggest comeback

locals will be happy #Jayhawks

rez 04-04-2022 11:50 PM

Dustin in HoF next year? Cody inducting him?

rez 04-04-2022 11:52 PM

or year after. I feel Cody has a lot of decent shit in his contract

rez 04-04-2022 11:53 PM

Cody should get a couple good matches win or loss against Edge, AJ

rez 04-04-2022 11:55 PM

Then maybe that eventual Sting match (hopeful) but probably not.

Tom Guycott 04-05-2022 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slikhausen (Post 5538462)
Hell yeah @ KU winning with the biggest comeback

locals will be happy #Jayhawks

Well then... rock chalk, Jayhawk.

xrodmuc316 04-05-2022 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5538459)
Just watched the Cody Rhodes segment.... dunno.... can't buy him as "the" world champion.... If they do split the titles again then sure, give him one of them, why not, it doesn't mean anything.... but if there is only one world title, I just don't see him as on that level.... IC/US Title level yeah.... AEW World Title level sure he could have been, but the single guy on top of WWE... I don't see it ever happening...

They will get another World Title, they have to. Otherwise World Champ level means Roman, and nobody is beating Roman. Roman is staying champ until Vince sells WWE, at which point Roman will retire as the champion, and they rename HOF as The Roman Reigns WWE Hall of Fame.

Fignuts 04-05-2022 01:27 AM

Holy shit at that KU game.

XL 04-05-2022 03:27 AM

I hope Paul was adjusting for inflation during that promo.

XL 04-05-2022 04:10 AM

Hmmm. Not sure how to feel about this Raw After Mania.

We got a <s>return</s> debut from <s>Elias</s> Ezekiel, Veer finally came and exploded all over the Mysterios, a tease of a Liv/Rhea break up but then an actual Carmella/Zelina break up. An NXT title change out of nowhere.

Little on the way of big debuts/returns, seemingly little in terms of setup for (WrestleMania) Backlash. That said, they might be waiting on Reigns to see how he’s feeling before setting anything up for the title.

Just, expected a little more maybe.

Rammsteinmad 04-05-2022 07:02 AM

Yeah, seems very lackluster compared to past post-Mania Raws.

Evil Vito 04-05-2022 07:10 AM

More shit happened on this post-WM Raw than the last few but it’s not saying much. 2018 was the last time they really made a big deal of it (Lashley returned was the big thing there).

Bad News Gertner 04-05-2022 09:48 AM

Wow, another in the long line of A+ Raw's!

Maluco 04-05-2022 11:04 AM

Biggest show of the year and…

Rollins loses to a midcarder
Zayn loses to Johnny Knoxville
Owens loses to a 57 year old in 5 minutes
Theory loses to a commentator
Styles loses to an ancient Edge

And everyone else is in throwaway or unimportant matches with no build and no heat.

The biggest star is a heel who has been mega pushed at the cost of everyone else for 6 years to the point where they don’t even have a viable opponent for him.

It’s a business that generates money through all the different mediums and potential markets they have, and I guess that is what matters to a business, but as a product? It’s the worst it’s ever been.

For all the anti-HHH sentiment in the other thread, their current (and only) star is someone who is worse than him at every aspect of wrestling, and he is just as stale as HHH at his worst!

weather vane 04-05-2022 03:36 PM

MALUCOOOOOO

Evil Vito 04-05-2022 03:42 PM

Adrenaline
In my palm
Holy fuck, it's Veer Mahaan

XL 04-05-2022 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 5538537)
Biggest show of the year and…

Rollins loses to a midcarder
Zayn loses to Johnny Knoxville
Owens loses to a 57 year old in 5 minutes
Theory loses to a commentator
Styles loses to an ancient Edge

And everyone else is in throwaway or unimportant matches with no build and no heat.

The biggest star is a heel who has been mega pushed at the cost of everyone else for 6 years to the point where they don’t even have a viable opponent for him.

It’s a business that generates money through all the different mediums and potential markets they have, and I guess that is what matters to a business, but as a product? It’s the worst it’s ever been.

For all the anti-HHH sentiment in the other thread, their current (and only) star is someone who is worse than him at every aspect of wrestling, and he is just as stale as HHH at his worst!

So 9.5/10?

screech 04-05-2022 08:19 PM

lol for all the hype, Veer didn't make the Hulu cut. Four WM recaps did, though.

Tom Guycott 04-05-2022 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5538635)
lol for all the hype, Veer didn't make the Hulu cut. Four WM recaps did, though.

Oh, they're still on that shit with Hulu?

The next step is to have him in a segment next week's RAW where they make 800 references to him hitting the ring and wiping out the Mystereos like it wasn't cut.

I ask again: why do they bother airing the show on a streaming service, but giving it the "AM RAW" editing treatment?? They are literally under zero time constraints and a viewer could stream the entire three hours, but they squeeze it for time. It continues to be fucking stupid.

#1-norm-fan 04-05-2022 11:33 PM

Holy shit, I forgot all about AM Raw being a thing.

XL 04-05-2022 11:40 PM

A condensed version of Raw is still a good idea. We get a 1 hour highlights show on a free streaming platform over in the UK but it airs Raw footage from 6 days prior and SmackDown footage from 9 days prior by which point it’s far too late.

Mr. Nerfect 04-06-2022 03:15 AM

Oh wow, the Ezekiel gimmick is brilliant, if it’s what I think it is. Granted, there are so many ways they could fuck it up, but I think the actual idea is brilliant. I can’t remember anyone doing anything like this.

Mr. Nerfect 04-06-2022 03:18 AM

Veer Mahaan should do that ridiculous where he cuts promos that are sexual but he means them completely seriously.

Mr. Nerfect 04-06-2022 03:22 AM

Rhea Ripley & Liv Morgan getting a title shot after losing might not seem like it makes sense, but the story should be that, because Sonya hates Naomi, she gave them a title shot with the promise that Rhea takes out Naomi (which she does). Liv doesn’t agree with this, but it turns out Rhea did it because she is attracted to Liv. Liv says she felt the same way until this Rhea came out. Sonya stirs the pot by revealing she gave them the title shot in exchange for Naomi’s health and sexual favors from Rhea. Turns into a big dramatic mess playing on the feelings of Liv Morgan and Rhea’s actions.

XL 04-06-2022 09:20 AM

I’m guessing they’re moving away from Cody/Seth for now. That handshake was a “welcome back”/given the approval of the (self-appointment) locker room leader. No idea where they’re going with either guy though.

Mr. Nerfect 04-06-2022 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5538699)
I’m guessing they’re moving away from Cody/Seth for now. That handshake was a “welcome back”/given the approval of the (self-appointment) locker room leader. No idea where they’re going with either guy though.

I got that too. I’m also fine if it moves Seth away from his current persona. But I did have the thought that Cody might show up and challenge Reigns ASAP and Rollins might cost Cody and that leads to a program between Cody and Seth before the “real” Cody/Reigns title match.

But I’m totally down with babyface Seth. Focus on his ring work and get him away from faux-Joker.

Mr. Nerfect 04-06-2022 09:55 AM

If they want to add Cody & Seth to the Raw tag scene while Roman does something with Drew, that could be amazing too.

Mr. Nerfect 04-06-2022 09:58 AM

Imagine a tag scene consisting of RKBro, Cody & Seth, The Grand Jury, Styles & Balor, Alpha Academy, Street Profits and even The Mysterios and The Hurt Business (a re-hired Shelton & Cedric). It couldn’t be permanent, but imagine…

Then The Briscoes show up. :eek:

Lock Jaw 04-06-2022 10:10 AM

When Seth was a face vs Roman at Rumble I thought his persona worked great and was "fresh" for a face..... by the way he did not really lose clean to Reigns and almost had him beat, so a logical next opponent for Reigns would be Rollins coming around again and staying how he has his number.... they can def kill a few months of content with that feud....

XL 04-06-2022 10:22 AM

All of those scenarios work. I thought about Cody challenging Roman immediately but it does seem too soon, he needs to re-establish himself with the WWE audience, he shouldn’t be taking the belt from Reigns and he shouldn’t be failing to take the belt from him either (albeit you can sell it as part of the redemption angle).

I could see Seth very easily going back against Cody. I don’t think the audience is ready to embrace Seth as a babyface again yet.

Noid’s tag division looks insane but I’m not sure where that leaves the rest of the card.

drave 04-06-2022 10:41 AM

Seth is just great at what he does. Each iteration he comes back as a douche, but has the crowds eating from his hands in less than 90 days.


He is a great "wrasslin mind". His entire psyche at Rumble was perfect.


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