lol everyone taking a nap outside after taking one move

Did they just drown out CM Punk chants?

That was fucking sick!

lol yes

CM Punk chants

0/10

Worst survivor series ever

Really wonder why they hate Toni Storm... feel like she could be a superstar but they seem to purposefully bury her

LOL how was that a countout? Not only did she break the count twice, she was in the ring at 9!

Orton's RKO alone has to earn it at least a 1/10

I was thinking the same thing

crowd seemed only interested in bianca and sasha during that

love paul heyman

Imagine the start of a Rock/Roman feud being over a fake egg from a movie

Raw with 5 wins, SmackDown with 1 so far... only SmackDown win was Nakamura winning by DQ on the kickoff show

feel like most of the booking tonight is to make wrestlers look strong but also simultaneously look not strong enough

a sure-fire way to get talent over

why are they airing like 10 mins of commercials and video packages... wish this PPV would have ended by 11

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can't wait til tomorroe to see the reports of Fox executives being upset that the blue brand has been destroyed by Raw tonight. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SurvivorSeries?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SurvivorSeries</a></p>&mdash; Blake Oestriecher (@BOestriecher) <a href="https://twitter.com/BOestriecher/status/1462630027019886593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why do I feel like they just took 15 minutes to gimmick the ring somehow...

The fake crowd reaction is incredibly annoying. Don't know how y'all deal with it.

Why have their been like 10-15 min breaks between matches

feel like the last match ended a half hour ago

Do you ever breathe man good god

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">107 minutes of wrestling on a show that’s been on the air for 186 minutes. So 79 minutes of videos and entrances.</p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1462633463391997960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Heyman was with Braxton. Said he didn't know who stole Cleopatra's leg.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1462629617966059528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not gonna lie...I've had my fill of Pat McAfee tonight and then some.

I know what you mean. That line was so beautiful and perfectly encapsulated the combined sentiments of the entire universe.

You know he may not be the tallest guy but I seriously think Big E is the most physically imposing guy in a really long time. He is just built different. He looks scary. I wouldn't ever wanna get on his bad side.

they haven't once said trending worldwide all night since it's not the top trend and hasn't been all night, was not in the top 10 trends for a while into the show either

Big E has a death wish with his version of the suicide dive.

This might be the longest Big E match I've ever seen.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think the constant promoting of The Rock took the crowd out of this main event. It feels like they’re waiting for it to be over so they can finally see him</p>&mdash; Andrew Thompson (@ADThompson__) <a href="https://twitter.com/ADThompson__/status/1462637773240868866?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Big E is a genuinely likable person and someone you want to root for to succeed in wrestling

Wasn't expecting Roman to pin Big E clean. Wow!

OMG! It's The Rock :eek: Holy shit!

Big E is the winner in my heart.

They really teased The Rock showing up all night for nothing, yikes

IF YA SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLALALALALALALA

No fucking way! Only WWE would align someone like The Rock with the heel champion. What a terrible booking decision :nono:

Can't believe they had The Rock come back and turn heel in an instant. What the hell WWE?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Rock didnt even have a recorded promo or anything LOL<br><br>WWE been twerking for him for weeks just for a quote tweet ������<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SurvivorSeries?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SurvivorSeries</a></p>&mdash; WrestlePurists (@WrestlePurists) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlePurists/status/1462640293065416705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is anybody else weirded out by The Rock's facial hair? A very odd decision indeed.

honestly a horrible show

They made a Brooklyn crowd sound like [one of those towns with an insanely quiet crowd]

They made The Rock look like a jabroni.

7 meaningless matches needlessly stretched to 4.5 hours

Another home run for the WWE!

8/10 , which beats Full Gear which recieved a 4.5/10

If ya smell what the Rock is cooking!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yo how did this knock Natalya off the apron, I am deceased ������<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SurvivorSeries?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SurvivorSeries</a> <a href="https://t.co/GxqmsrkYPl">pic.twitter.com/GxqmsrkYPl</a></p>&mdash; X (@KnowTheX) <a href="https://twitter.com/KnowTheX/status/1462626064551727105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">IMPACT Wrestling got the Rock to do more at Bound For Glory 2020 than WWE did for his 25th Anniversary at Survivor Series</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1462639644969947137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Guys, this was pretty intense.

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I honestly didnt think the PPV was bad itself, but it had such a lack of a any kind of build. It was just there. There was literally nothing there. It had some good matches if it was just a random exhibition show.

That said, it is not a random show. It is their second longest running show, and even though it has been the number 4 of the big 4 for 30 years.

It has become what they mostly do, just coasting. I remember distinctly remembering in the aftermath of their new TV deals, which were announced a solid 15 months before they would actually kick in, that WWE really started coasting. At the time it was almost positioned as "well they are kind of holding back until the new deals" mentality.

Hindsight though, it wasnt them holding back, once they got those deals, they really didnt care to try and get better to make more money, they were going to do JUST enough to keep chugging out content.

They give us one, maybe two new pushes per year. Everybody else is completely stagnant. That is what Survivor Series felt like today, the presentation was good, the matches were good, but nothing new was created or setup tonight, nor was anything concluded. Its just what they do now.

And that is not bashing, that is basically what every episode of Dynamite is. Just randomly putting wrestler A and wrestler B together to have a "good match" with no real storyline advancement.

Becky with a fire babyface promo. Somebody please explain why she’s heel.

Only the IWC would get The Rock back and complain about it.

I've heard that Tony K's creative involves putting every wrestlers name in a hat, & wrestlers randomly draw the name of their opponent. This is why AEW SUCKS and is a far inferior product to WWE :y: I'm glad you snuck this post in after not-bashing the PPV

Yeah people who spend time crafting long posts on wrestling forums (i.e. the IWC) are the worst :fu:

In his defence he’s right, a random episode of Dynamite is about as good as Survivor series.

Also Rock didn’t appear did he?

I feel like this is people being "WWE'd" since this is the expectation now.





He didn't make any appearances in any way, whatsoever.

Oh shit. Is CripplerCrossface ACTUALLY CripplerCrossface???

This is beautiful.

I didn't really watch, but it was on for my mother-in-law. I played phone games the entire time.


What a disappointment to play on The Rock so much and then not deliver.

So what are people flipping out for? He wasn’t advertised for the show. It’d be insane to not promote 25 years of him being associated with the WWF/E in association with this show.

They HEAVILY teased at him making an appearance, at the very least. The same way they always tease stuff, with HEAVY foreshadowing, etc. To boot, VKM himself was involved in "the skits". They were making a very big deal about the entire segment throughout the night, literally for naught.

It was 25 years since The Rock debuted. They did a Battle Royal dedicated to him and probably showed a bit of footage. I don’t know what people expected. I mean, I COULD have seen a video promo, but eh. Everyone knows he’s not going to come in and risk injury when it comes to film schedule by now.

Only Noid would make up a scenario that didn’t happen and complain about it.

If you actually watched it, you'd understand. I get the 25 year thing, but it could have simply been on RAW, or you know, the show they named after him.....


But instead, they teased for 3.5 hours at a possibility of him even being on-screen. It is easy to see why people feel misled.


Buuuuuuuuuut, you didn't watch it and believed a post here that he showed up, so why am I even bothering.

I’m responding to poorly phrased posts on here acting like The Rock was coming back, apologist. Blame the poor quality of TPWW. I didn’t even watch the show and would have placed money on him not coming back. :roll:

This is precious. I’m just happy that Noid reads my posts and pretends that he doesn’t.

He debuted at the Survivor Series. They’re going to make a big deal about it being 25 years of Rock since the 1996 Survivor Series. It can help generate some interest for their catalogue. Omos won a Battle Royal alluding to him to try and help him get more over. I honestly don’t see the problem with any of t.

Of course I didn’t watch it. I don’t think I’ve watched a WWE PPV in full for years. Why would I waste time and money on that? But there are reasonable criticisms and insane criticisms. Anyone expecting The Rock to come back and set up something with Roman Reigns was always kidding themselves.

It’s easier to be misled by people making Rock references at the end of a show and then complaining then it was into thinking Rock is actually going to come back. This really is ludicrous.

The Vince McMahon egg storyline is brilliant. Got so many people talking. And apparently it made them a massive payday from Netflix. As Vince McMahon strengthens his relationship with the largest streaming service in the world.

You would have bet money on him not coming back until you fell for some “poorly phrased” comments from some poor quality posters on a poor quality forum, believed he returned, and decided to shit on the IWC’s reaction to it.

Incredible.

Why wouldn’t you expect that from TPWW at this point? When you’re not watching the show and see people going “IFYASMELLALALALALA” and then talking about how the WWE promoted The Rock only for it to be completely disappointing, it’s way easier to be misled into thinking he just came back and clapped for Roman like he did at the Royal Rumble in 2015.

Yes, I’d totally believe TPWW shitting all over a Rock return before I’d believe The Rock actually returned, lol. That’s how nuts this place is.

Occasionally you get some great insight from Destor and Gertner, some fun WCW Deep Cut tweets and tidbits from Gerty, and some reasonable points from xrod, but this place is devoid of anything else nutritious.

Egg on my face, I didn’t even watch the show. :lol:

Oh wait…

Lol at Bryan Alvarez complaining about 107 minutes of wrestling on a single show. That’s almost definitely way too much. A big problem with modern products is that there is too much of the same thing and over and over again. It’s a white noise problem.

It’s like his weird complaint about rematches. Everyone works the same in most promotions. So who gives a fuck if Wrestler A is working Wrestler C or Wrestler B again?

Noid: lol you guys complain even when getting the rock back!

*finds out the rock didn’t show up, outing himself as an idiot who decided to make a matter of fact statement without bother to reading the results *

Also noid: haha you see i knew he wouldn’t be there but because i was responding to a poorly written post, it LOOKS like I was saying he came back but really I was saying something completely different.

Brilliant series of responses from the guy who clearly didn’t even read results before shooting off nonsense.

If you tease it enough the live crowd is under the impression he's appearing (WWE's not particularly subtle) and begin chanting his name during the main-event, and then the live crowd boos when the show goes off the air and he doesn't appear, I mean...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The 200 level is the upper deck. There were a lot of seats facing hard cam left available, so should this be confirmed (I expect it to be), it would mean they're filling that side for TV presentation. Pretty wild coming off a PPV in No. 1 market. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a></p>&mdash; Jon Alba (@JonAlba) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonAlba/status/1462874697847255046?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why would you entertain a person's opinion if they've not even seen a single PPV in ages?

I’m not trying to insult modern wrestling audiences, but…

Roman Reigns is part of the family. People have been speculating about The Rock coming back at Survivor Series for the longest time. The reason it can’t happen is because The Rock hurting himself during a wrestling match is going to delay filming and cost production companies millions upon millions of dollars. I don’t know how else to explain it to people. But there are still people who are CONVINCED this whole Roman story is supposed to lead to a match with Rock down the line.

It doesn’t surprise me fans in the crowd were going for it. Nor does it surprise me that TPWW was going for it. I don’t know what you want from this company when it comes to highlighting The Rock and special events and simultaneously promoting Roman Reigns in the best light possible. Not highlighting Rock is insane. Backing away from this Roman story is insane.

People just want to bash this company. And I get that — I was there for many years (and called out for it because I didn’t get it and just wanted to ruin people’s fun apparently…my, how things change). But saying “Hey, did you know The Rock debuted with us 25 years ago, here’s a match in his honor, here are some clips” is promising people a return. It’s not like Roman Reigns called out any member of his family to dare step out of line at Survivor Series and they went out of their way to downplay Rock’s history there to imply it would be him, did they?

This is just like people finding whatever reason they can to shit over WWE for signing talent, for firing talent, for wanting to increase their profit margin as a publicly traded business. There are legitimate things to pick apart, but The Rock not being there when they never said he would be is just being silly and destructive because you want to be.

Did WWE actually imply that The Rock was going to be at Survivor Series? Especially considering they are “not subtle?”

bitch you went for it based on tpww. how fucking dumb are you?

I'm so glad that I made these throwaway posts.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> is in the Ruthless Depression era <a href="https://twitter.com/GlennRubenstein?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GlennRubenstein</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JustinLaBar</a></p>&mdash; Alfred Konuwa (@ThisIsNasty) <a href="https://twitter.com/ThisIsNasty/status/1462843323060830209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, because I’m not wasting my time on the show. I got wrong information from the deadest forum in the IWC. Whoops, shame on me. :lol:

It’s not like this place wouldn’t complain if The Rock came back either. So I’m not feeling any sort of shame or regret for assuming that TPWW is the embarrassment here. Soz, bitch.

doing this and then glossing over it like "nbd, boys!" is what makes you an idiot.

Dude, it’s not like I was even like “zomg! the Rock is back!!!” I saw people whinging on here and thought “lol, typical.” I’m so disengaged with this shit that I didn’t even check the highlights and I doubt The Rock could make me (not that it’s his fault).

It was bemusement at this place, and yes, that does say way more about you than it does about me. ;)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Gentlemen, we are dealing with someone here who... has absolutely NO LIFE.” <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WoW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WoW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SouthPark?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SouthPark</a> <a href="http://t.co/UWXFSGCWDA">pic.twitter.com/UWXFSGCWDA</a></p>&mdash; South Park (@SouthPark) <a href="https://twitter.com/SouthPark/status/623979500976472064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And only on TPWW can you have people blast an entire show and then try to make you look like an idiot for not watching it because you didn’t think you’d enjoy it. :lol:

It was probably better than Full Gear, but wrestling has done so much to numb my interest that I’m going to take some accounts of events second-hand. I’m not a fucking journalist, cunts. I like talking shit about something I used to enjoy on the internet.

And those desperate enough to try and catch me in some “Gotcha!” can keep kicking that stone uphill.

Whoa! Got a neg rep from Mr. Nerfect

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Actually, it’s a large part of the entire IWC. I used to hate that term, because it seemed generalizing and reductive, but it does seem to be more and more appropriate. There’s this hive mentality towards certain things. “Fed=Bad” for example.

So? How much of those posts are me saying shit like “Fuck this sucks” and responding to apologists like #fan? I still make an effort to post here, but I think anyone sincere would see how my optimism for wrestling has fucking died, clearly I don’t follow the product like I used to and that for a dude who would have posted the most once upon a time (most likely), I’ve scaled way the fuck back.

Turns out everyone else has too. :lol:

Go read books, Slik. Let the man rant away like a miserable fuck.

It wasn't.

Feel like that's probably a subjective thing

Nope.

SS had potential to be better, which is why I ordered it.

But it wasn't.

You have to actually watch them first :o

The internet killed wrestling.
Want to enjoy it? Either go back in time or just don't have anything to do with wrestling online

Did you guys check out Becky's post match promo? That was pretty good.

Man, there’s a lot of Noid backtracking to sift through on this page...