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Evil Vito 08-25-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrilchuk (Post 5474022)
Stiff slap there.

Stiff is very much now I feel with Allie and Tay on screen, I’m all for that match

Sepholio 08-25-2021 09:26 PM

YES I FINALLY SCORED AN XBOX SERIES X THANK YOU AEW!!!

Sorry. Carry on.

slik 08-25-2021 09:27 PM

If Malakai is the main event I assume Cody returns

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5474025)
YES I FINALLY SCORED AN XBOX SERIES X THANK YOU AEW!!!

Sorry. Carry on.

Did you really?

rez 08-25-2021 09:31 PM

mmm hot

slik 08-25-2021 09:31 PM

Bran Cutler #1

Sepholio 08-25-2021 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5474027)
Did you really?

Yep. Was trying for the awesome af new Halo themed one and during the process of getting screwed by the internet for an hour on that one the regular old black Series X also went live on the same site and I just happened to notice it and grab one real quick while everyone was still spamming the other lol.

I have managed to score all 3 super hard to find items this year now cuz I already pulled a PS5 and a RTX 3080 out of my ass.

rez 08-25-2021 09:33 PM

Brandon and Don remind me of

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...L._SL1500_.jpg

Sepholio 08-25-2021 09:35 PM

now I want some fruit stripe. Those are the best tasting 10 seconds one can experience on this Earth.

rez 08-25-2021 09:37 PM

HOLD MY SCARF

weather vane 08-25-2021 09:37 PM

Kojima.

Evil Vito 08-25-2021 09:37 PM

Mox vs Kojima, damn

slik 08-25-2021 09:38 PM

Brandon Cutler #1

slik 08-25-2021 09:38 PM

Paul Wight in the house tonight

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5474035)
Mox vs Kojima, damn

LOL, yeah. I mean Kojima is great and all but he's not Tanahashi, Ishii or Suzuki.

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5474037)
Paul Wight in the house tonight

This show just got A LOT bigger.

Evil Vito 08-25-2021 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5474038)
LOL, yeah. I mean Kojima is great and all but he's not Tanahashi, Ishii or Suzuki.

NJPW were never sending in the big guns with a stadium show the same day as All Out

That said I think Mox vs random NJPW dudes will eventually land us there

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5474040)
NJPW were never sending in the big guns with a stadium show the same day as All Out

That said I think Mox vs random NJPW dudes will eventually land us there

Plus the NJPW roster seems to be plagued with constant covoid cases so they will be thin as is.

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:45 PM

END THIS GODDAMN MATCH

Sepholio 08-25-2021 09:45 PM

yesssssss here comes a godly promo

slik 08-25-2021 09:45 PM

Powerful undefeated streak

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">COLTON GUNN IS AEW’S UNDERTAKER. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a></p>&mdash; KeepUpWithKayfabe (@KeepUpWithKFabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeepUpWithKFabe/status/1430707799600869381?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sepholio 08-25-2021 09:45 PM

LMAO The bastard child of Marilyn Manson and Tony Hawk LOOOOOOOOL

slik 08-25-2021 09:45 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WHATS ALL THIS!!,!:&amp;.)/&amp;.€ <a href="https://t.co/whbO89FQzZ">pic.twitter.com/whbO89FQzZ</a></p>&mdash; kam reunited with finn (@kipbalor) <a href="https://twitter.com/kipbalor/status/1430707736837300226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:46 PM

JR just said "The Paul Wight" lol.

Supreme Olajuwon 08-25-2021 09:46 PM

Dan Lambert > Paul Heyman

Prove me wrong

Evil Vito 08-25-2021 09:47 PM

Dan Lambert might be the best promo in the business

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:47 PM

LOL "safe spaces" Dan Lambert for Man of The Year.

BigCrippyZ 08-25-2021 09:48 PM

Lambert and Callis are phenomenal.

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:49 PM

Rampage card is good.

slik 08-25-2021 09:49 PM

Where is Ricky Starks

#1-norm-fan 08-25-2021 09:49 PM

CM Punk is incredible at what he does.

Evil Vito 08-25-2021 09:51 PM

Yeah Cody probably making his “grand return” and very few will care

I like Cody enough but he’s wayyyyyy down in the pecking order of people I care about in AEW at this point

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:52 PM

I once read that Malakai Black was a legit Satanist.

Supreme Olajuwon 08-25-2021 09:53 PM

Mallister Black is a god damn super villain and any entertainment company who would release him is a fool for the ages




I’m not trying to say they’re retarded but that’s what I mean

slik 08-25-2021 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5474056)
I once read that Malakai Black was a legit Satanist.

Most satanists are athiests, which I believe he is

Jordan 08-25-2021 09:58 PM

When Malakai Black was 15 he was charged in the ceremonial murder of over a dozen dogs and cats from his neighborhood. He was nearly charged as an adult but was able to get away with being charged as an adolescent. He spoke to his lawyer about Aleister Crowley and how he was inspired to try and make a connection with Satan face to face by opening up a portal with the ceremony and subsequently was in a youth correctional facility until he was 17 and had court ordered therapy until he was 21. Allegedly he believed the reason the ceremony wasn't a success is because he wasn't able to offer a human sacrifice.

slik 08-25-2021 09:59 PM

arn ded

Evil Vito 08-25-2021 10:00 PM

Pretty weak ending tbh. Good ep though.

Emperor Smeat 08-25-2021 10:00 PM

:lol: at Black nailing Arn in the nuts after Arn thought he outsmarted Black by blocking his Black Mass kick.

Fun show overall this week. Not one of AEW's better shows in terms of ring action but everything else delivered.

Jordan 08-25-2021 10:02 PM

Well that was a bit of a disappointing ending.

Evil Vito 08-25-2021 10:25 PM

Yeah so Black squashes Lee Johnson next, does nothing but spin the tires

So many of these AEW Dark regulars have no purpose on Dynamite aside from squash duty and that’s only gonna get worse as the company keeps on adding.

I mean shit Andrade’s been with the company since May and wrestled once. MJF rarely actually wrestles. In fact other than Jericho’s labor angle it’s felt like everyone in Pinnacle/Inner Circle stopped wrestling except for the odd match against each other. Lance Archer goes weeks if not months between Dynamite matches. Miro squashes someone every 3 weeks or so. Men of the Year finally have an angle after not doing anything for months.

And they’re adding Bryan and possibly Adam Cole and fucking Bray Wyatt on top of this? I really don’t know how the hell they’re gonna manage all of this.

Only benefit might be you could feasibly give a lot of guys “off seasons” via taking them off screen for a few months and cycling guys through

weather vane 08-25-2021 10:30 PM

I think that’s the plan. Time off.

BigCrippyZ 08-25-2021 10:37 PM

You also have to remember that going forward Bryan and Punk are going to have limited actual in ring schedules and likely won’t be on every TV show/taping. Punk allegedly will wrestle 11-13 matches a year and Bryan probably similar if not even less. Jericho will probably be somewhat similar going forward. Plus segments with them can obviously be cut shorter than matches can. That will help giving folks coming up more time against similar up and comers. Really curious how this works. Won’t be shocked if Rampage gets more time at some point soon too.

Bad News Gertner 08-25-2021 10:50 PM

Pretty weak show this week. Vince Russo must have booked the show with all the talking.

Vastardikai 08-26-2021 12:02 AM

Saw a few things as they popped up.

1. Lambert is such a strawman version of another critic of their product, I am surprised he didn't end his promo with "Thank you, Fuck you, Bye!"
2. Orange Cassidy impresses me. He is so into his character, he's even half assing doing moves properly and safely.
3. Send Red Velvet to Mission Pro for six months. Keep her off TV. For her own safety and the safety of everyone who shares a ring with her.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-26-2021 01:04 AM

How many times has red velvet botched? The moonsault tonight but I don’t recall her fucking up prior.

BigCrippyZ 08-26-2021 01:20 AM

I don't either. She's not great but I don't recall any obvious screw ups that blatant.

slik 08-26-2021 01:33 AM

I feel like this was not the episode to do if you had a bunch of new eyeballs tuning in...I'm not really sure what TK was thinking. It wasn't a disaster or anything it just...maybe should have been more of a slam dunk...

Damian Rey 2.0 08-26-2021 02:15 AM

Yeah the show moved forward some stories along and giving us an almost finished case for the ppv, but it was a big drop in fun and excitement compared to last weeks crazy ass episode.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2021 06:54 AM

Apparently the show sucked. Great first impression with a bunch of new fans, guys. You fucking morons. No surprise. Funny at this point.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2021 06:55 AM

Bryan Danielson will have a great debut, then the first match of the next show will be Luther vs. Chuck Taylor.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2021 07:13 AM

Hahaha, I just saw an amazing post from someone who sanely pointed out that this could be compared to TNA getting Hogan and Bischoff in 2010. They ran down the first Hogan/Bischoff show and compared it to AEW, and...yeah, hard to argue with TNA actually being better.

Keep in mind that TK talks shit about Russo. Sorry, bud. At least that guy had been producing shit television for longer.

Evil Vito 08-26-2021 07:22 AM

LMFAO Noid didn’t even stay away for a whole week

Evil Vito 08-26-2021 07:40 AM

I don’t think you can have a MAJOR SURPRISE every single week so expecting that isn’t realistic and it’s probably not good that they did enough debuts in a short window of time that people are expecting stuff like that constantly. I think it was a good ep that did what it needed to but probably could’ve done with some restructuring in the order instead of ending the show with Lee Johnson awkwardly making the save.

I’d have had the Black/Brock match and Lucha/Varsity matches flipped. Close out the show with the tag match since it was more fun and because you ended with Jurassic/Luchas fighting off the Bucks which naturally segues into the upcoming Rampage match.

Jordan 08-26-2021 08:41 AM

Nobody is expecting a major surprise every week, just a great show. Booking so many matches with talent that we don't know or care about is not any way to capitalize on a huge news week. Brock Anderson was in the main event. They should have made a much better match for Malakai, I get the story being told and yes Malakai does come off like a star but that was a bad main event. This episode with the exception of Hardy vs OC was like a glorified episode of Dark.

Noid 08-26-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5474117)
Hahaha, I just saw an amazing post from someone who sanely pointed out that this could be compared to TNA getting Hogan and Bischoff in 2010. They ran down the first Hogan/Bischoff show and compared it to AEW, and...yeah, hard to argue with TNA actually being better.

Keep in mind that TK talks shit about Russo. Sorry, bud. At least that guy had been producing shit television for longer.

What a fucking accurate comparison with no cognitive bias whatsoever! Haha! Bloody oath mate.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5474118)
LMFAO Noid didn’t even stay away for a whole week

Yeah, believe it or not it’s hard to give up something you’ve been addicted to for 20 fucking years when you have strong opinions on it. Very cool to laugh your fat ass off at them. :y:

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2021 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5474126)
Nobody is expecting a major surprise every week, just a great show. Booking so many matches with talent that we don't know or care about is not any way to capitalize on a huge news week. Brock Anderson was in the main event. They should have made a much better match for Malakai, I get the story being told and yes Malakai does come off like a star but that was a bad main event. This episode with the exception of Hardy vs OC was like a glorified episode of Dark.

Yep. Just book some fucking good wrestling. Not that difficult.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2021 12:14 PM

LMFAO AEW couldn’t even keep up their momentum for a week. ;)

drave 08-26-2021 12:20 PM

Your addiction seems self-destructive :(

Evil Vito 08-26-2021 12:33 PM

Whilst the ending wasn't my cup of tea that was probably due to the awkwardness/clumsiness of the execution of it more than Lee Johnson himself. Feel like you could've just ended with Black being badass and put a Johnson promo on Twitter or YouTube or whatever to get to the next squash match.

Evil Vito 08-26-2021 12:41 PM

There's this weird criticism that continually gets thrown at AEW which is "casual viewers haven't heard of that person".

It's such an ignorant view of how people watch television, like the moment a new character shows up on a TV show, maybe portrayed by an actor we don't recognize, we go, "wait, who the fuck is that???" and switch over to another channel instantly.

Beyond that, I've seen people saying that "no casual fan will know who Satoshi Kojima is" - no, probably not, that's why they spent an entire promo telling us who Satoshi Kojima is and why he's important, and will likely do the same thing next week.

If anything, they may have leaned in a bit too hard on the notion that new viewers are watching for CM Punk so let's throw in people that lapsed fans would know. Matt Hardy was in the opening match, Billy Gunn popped up, Paul Wight had an angle, and then of course you've got Jericho, Sting and Christian on the show. It's fine to feature some of these dudes but you didn't need to cram 'em all onto the show.

Fignuts 08-26-2021 01:24 PM

They keep putting moxley against new japan's old men who can't really go anymore. I get not wanting to send any big guns in the current environment, but why not one of the younger up and comers? Or a mid carder like Ishii or Goto? Probably gonna send Tenzan over next.

Frank Drebin 08-26-2021 01:38 PM

Moxley vs Aja Kong

Emperor Smeat 08-26-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5474083)
Saw a few things as they popped up.

1. Lambert is such a strawman version of another critic of their product, I am surprised he didn't end his promo with "Thank you, Fuck you, Bye!"

He had a very similar character/gimmick during his time in Impact several years before AEW existed.

It only feels like a knock-off Cornette because of Corny being the most well known loud mouth critic of AEW and Lambert turning the dial up a notch with his character in AEW.

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Jordan 08-26-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5474161)
There's this weird criticism that continually gets thrown at AEW which is "casual viewers haven't heard of that person".

It's such an ignorant view of how people watch television, like the moment a new character shows up on a TV show, maybe portrayed by an actor we don't recognize, we go, "wait, who the fuck is that???" and switch over to another channel instantly.

Beyond that, I've seen people saying that "no casual fan will know who Satoshi Kojima is" - no, probably not, that's why they spent an entire promo telling us who Satoshi Kojima is and why he's important, and will likely do the same thing next week.

If anything, they may have leaned in a bit too hard on the notion that new viewers are watching for CM Punk so let's throw in people that lapsed fans would know. Matt Hardy was in the opening match, Billy Gunn popped up, Paul Wight had an angle, and then of course you've got Jericho, Sting and Christian on the show. It's fine to feature some of these dudes but you didn't need to cram 'em all onto the show.

I disagree with you here. It's one thing to have Darius Martin, Garcia or 2.0 on the show, a guy like Ben Carter or even Feugo Del Sol. Those guys are awesome and you don't even have to know who they are to see that.

But putting The Gunn Club who are lame as fuck, Aaron Solo, QT Marshall and Nick Comaratto (who looks good but sucks dick) on the same show is absolute dumb fuckery.

I have no issue with the crew who faced off with Mox, Darby & Eddie, that was a good match.

Also when the hell is anyone going to realize that Pillman Jr. sucks and has charisma fit for a Georgia Middle School gym show. And Griff Garrison sucks even more and belongs in speedo wrestle porn.

Evil Vito 08-26-2021 02:21 PM

Yeah I don't think Gunn Club vs. Factory achieved anything that a Wight/Marshall backstage vignette couldn't.

My central point though is that I see a lot of people kvetching about how AEW is "phoning it in" when they book people a casual audience wouldn't know and I disagree with that. Introducing unknown people to a big audience is a good thing. But make it people who are interesting, not the damn Factory.

I don't mind the Varsity Blonds but it might be because I have a soft spot for Griff Garrison watching Sammy's vlog. Killer theme. Julia Hart really is too green for TV though. She is legal (19) but doesn't even look it so having her out there prancing about in a cheerleader outfit feels pretty cringe. Not sure why she was thrust directly onto TV with minimal training.

Emperor Smeat 08-26-2021 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5474168)
They keep putting moxley against new japan's old men who can't really go anymore. I get not wanting to send any big guns in the current environment, but why not one of the younger up and comers? Or a mid carder like Ishii or Goto? Probably gonna send Tenzan over next.

I'd assume its a mix of scheduling and creative issues with the other stuff they have going on like the upcoming Stadium shows. Plus any potential COVID quarantine issues that could pop up since NJPW would be risking losing a notable name for the start of this year's G1.

Jordan 08-26-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5474184)
Yeah I don't think Gunn Club vs. Factory achieved anything that a Wight/Marshall backstage vignette couldn't.

My central point though is that I see a lot of people kvetching about how AEW is "phoning it in" when they book people a casual audience wouldn't know and I disagree with that. Introducing unknown people to a big audience is a good thing. But make it people who are interesting, not the damn Factory.

I don't mind the Varsity Blonds but it might be because I have a soft spot for Griff Garrison watching Sammy's vlog. Killer theme. Julia Hart really is too green for TV though. She is legal (19) but doesn't even look it so having her out there prancing about in a cheerleader outfit feels pretty cringe. Not sure why she was thrust directly onto TV with minimal training.

I don't see it as phoning it in I see it as attempting to "make guys" or girls, but the people they are choosing are not extraordinary. Lee Johnson sucks and looks like a total nerd last night in his khakis all bunched up around his butt.

slik 08-26-2021 04:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite last night on TNT was watched by 1,172,000 viewers on average, the most since April 14. <br><br>620,000 viewers were aged 18 to 49 (0.48 rating), the 2nd highest ever, only short of the debut on Oct 2, 2019 (which was a 0.68).<br><br>�� Read more: <a href="https://t.co/DA5iytim8y">https://t.co/DA5iytim8y</a> <a href="https://t.co/UNCqhcNAGV">pic.twitter.com/UNCqhcNAGV</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1430984408165752834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5474156)
Your addiction seems self-destructive :(

It’s very unrewarding and disappointing. It doesn’t bring me any genuine unhappiness. It’s jarring to think about how much I used to care and how little I don’t now, but my life is filled with other things and is otherwise fruitful.

It’s just not even fun to say wrestling sucks anymore. It’s all so...boring.

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5474161)
There's this weird criticism that continually gets thrown at AEW which is "casual viewers haven't heard of that person".

It's such an ignorant view of how people watch television, like the moment a new character shows up on a TV show, maybe portrayed by an actor we don't recognize, we go, "wait, who the fuck is that???" and switch over to another channel instantly.

Beyond that, I've seen people saying that "no casual fan will know who Satoshi Kojima is" - no, probably not, that's why they spent an entire promo telling us who Satoshi Kojima is and why he's important, and will likely do the same thing next week.

If anything, they may have leaned in a bit too hard on the notion that new viewers are watching for CM Punk so let's throw in people that lapsed fans would know. Matt Hardy was in the opening match, Billy Gunn popped up, Paul Wight had an angle, and then of course you've got Jericho, Sting and Christian on the show. It's fine to feature some of these dudes but you didn't need to cram 'em all onto the show.

Except that’s not what it is at all, is it? It’s more akin to watching a medical drama and instead of seeing someone dressed as a medical professional, you see a firefighter treating someone with liquorice sticks. There’s a horse running the ER. The chief of med is 14 years old. That actually sounds way more exciting than AEW.

Screaming “It’s Satoshi Kojima!” and saying he’s a Japanese legend isn’t explaining why. Nor does it explain why anyone should give a shit about Japanese wrestling anyway. How many Japanese actors can the average movie-goer name? Maybe Takeshi Miike? And that’s pretty obscure knowledge.

People want something that satisfies their preconceptions, and when it challenges them to create new pathways, isn’t just doing so haphazardly and disrespectfully.

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5474168)
They keep putting moxley against new japan's old men who can't really go anymore. I get not wanting to send any big guns in the current environment, but why not one of the younger up and comers? Or a mid carder like Ishii or Goto? Probably gonna send Tenzan over next.

There’s probably a few factors here. Moxley is a bit of a mark and might be doing that himself. Pushing for it and TK is spineless, so what’s he going to do? It could also just be that New Japan is taking AEW for a ride. This “Forbidden Door” has led to jack and shit so far.

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5474197)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite last night on TNT was watched by 1,172,000 viewers on average, the most since April 14. <br><br>620,000 viewers were aged 18 to 49 (0.48 rating), the 2nd highest ever, only short of the debut on Oct 2, 2019 (which was a 0.68).<br><br>�� Read more: <a href="https://t.co/DA5iytim8y">https://t.co/DA5iytim8y</a> <a href="https://t.co/UNCqhcNAGV">pic.twitter.com/UNCqhcNAGV</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1430984408165752834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oof. People were expecting 1.5 million and the like. Not the most exciting number. Wouldn’t surprise me if it started stronger and dropped way off.

Bad News Gertner 08-26-2021 04:35 PM

Yeah I was expecting higher.

R.I.P

Damian Rey 2.0 08-26-2021 04:53 PM

That episode didn’t deserve that many views. I wonder if they’ll have any carry over going into their All Out go home week. Nonetheless that’s a great number.

Triple A 08-26-2021 06:24 PM

Finally watched this episode and agree that it was kinda weird... some kinda bad matches on it

Def don't like how they keep having guys like "The Factory" and Lee Johnson and Gunn Club on when they have so many other really good guys who seem to wrestle on Dynamite like once every 5 months...

Triple A 08-26-2021 06:26 PM

Still feel like Rampage is gonna hurt AEW maybe, causing cool ideas to be spread too thin instead of only having to focus on one good show per week...

Triple A 08-26-2021 06:27 PM

Jamie Hayter so hot... beautiful large ass...

Triple A 08-26-2021 06:29 PM

Don Callis the best part of the show

xrodmuc316 08-26-2021 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5474168)
They keep putting moxley against new japan's old men who can't really go anymore. I get not wanting to send any big guns in the current environment, but why not one of the younger up and comers? Or a mid carder like Ishii or Goto? Probably gonna send Tenzan over next.

Moxley can't go either. If it's not a death match or a bunch of hardcore crap, he gets exposed very quickly. It is smart of him to work old guys that can't go because he can keep up with them.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-26-2021 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5474222)
Still feel like Rampage is gonna hurt AEW maybe, causing cool ideas to be spread too thin instead of only having to focus on one good show per week...

I think it’s going to help them. They only had two hours of TV time to tell all the stories they have going on. They do a good job of building up feuds and characters via vignettes but now they can do that on rampage and get guys who aren’t on TV a lot more ring time on air.

I also love that they don’t give everyone s match every single week. It’s not needed.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2021 10:27 PM

Yeah, it turns out they crept towards 1.2 million for CM Punk segments, then people tuned out. Just because some people like CM Punk, it does not mean those people are going to like the slap-ass antics on the rest of the show.

A similar thing will probably happen with Bryan. Fans of his will tune in to see him. Maybe. Some of the time. For a while. But they’re going to switch off the rest of this awful product.

You have to have the stars and be good.

Noid 08-27-2021 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5474247)
Yeah, it turns out they crept towards 1.2 million for CM Punk segments, then people tuned out. Just because some people like CM Punk, it does not mean those people are going to like the slap-ass antics on the rest of the show.

A similar thing will probably happen with Bryan. Fans of his will tune in to see him. Maybe. Some of the time. For a while. But they’re going to switch off the rest of this awful product.

You have to have the stars and be good.

What would be an enticing card for you?

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:08 PM

Taped this show while I was gone to "give it a chance" and "see what they do" with the "CM Punk boost".......

Gonna try to watch it now....

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:12 PM

Opening up the show with Orange Cassidy lolAEW

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:14 PM

Annnnnd they've already lost a lot of potential viewers with this Orange Cassidy kicks vs DELETE

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:19 PM

Noticed this on Rampage too, but the ringpost cameras are terrible. Maybe if you want to use them for a replay, go ahead, but don't cut to them live please.

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:21 PM

Confused by Matt Hardy..... doing a heel "Big Money" gimmick but still doing the DELETE thing and getting the fans to chant with him occasionally....

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:21 PM

Damn @ Matt getting busted open

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:27 PM

Decent little match, if a bit too long, and with a ridiculous finish...

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:29 PM

While AEW's production values are seriously lacking, I have to give them credit for their use of pyro

Triple A 08-29-2021 11:30 PM

What do you mean about production values specifically...

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:39 PM

Good Jericho/MJF segment... this is probably what they should have started the show with.....

Gotta say MJF looks and sounds like someone I could never buy in a million years beating Jericho cleanly, let alone 3 times (don't know if the other two times were clean, but I heard the last one was?)

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5474800)
What do you mean about production values specifically...

Sets, lighting, camera angles, graphics, etc....

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:45 PM

Hate how Penta has to do the Cero Miedo thing after like every other move....

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:51 PM

Fun little tag match, but of the "fast paced no-psychology" type that burns me out after awhile of watching it...

Lock Jaw 08-29-2021 11:54 PM

Oh, they replaced Vickie Guerrero with Chavo as Andrade's manager? Good idea..... though still wish Zelina Vega went to AEW with him....

Lock Jaw 08-30-2021 12:03 AM

Women's match too long and not interesting..... tired now....

Lock Jaw 08-30-2021 12:05 AM

Dark Order intolerable

Lock Jaw 08-30-2021 12:15 AM

Nice short and sweet promo/appearance by Punk.... really put over Darby as well as create interest in seeing the match

Lock Jaw 08-30-2021 12:19 AM

Really so super smart putting Sting with Darby.... instantly gives Darby tons of credibility...

Lock Jaw 08-30-2021 12:20 AM

Moxley theme so terrible for him.... went back and listened to his original AEW theme and it was very good IMO....


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