<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People should step up and fight injustice and if they won’t I will. I’ll come out and say it. Hey Fin Baylor your dick is way too prominent man put it away</p>&mdash; Chuck Taylor (@SexyChuckieT) <a href="https://twitter.com/SexyChuckieT/status/1052796948929896449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Okay, but Trump's response and WWE's response are both awful. I don't think they need to be causally linked. And yeah, WWE should have bailed from the deal earlier. Hell, they shouldn't have made it.

the Rock is in trouble for having dinner with the Prince

To be fair a bunch of famous people had dinner with him too

Good... was an embarrassing post by The Rock

Dude is totally right

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You had dinner with a brutal authoritarian, playing a role in his PR campaign to convince the West that he was, as you’d say, someone with “modern views.” Then you gushed about it on social media. Ppl look up to you. Do you regret giving him a platform? Has your opinion changed? <a href="https://t.co/yPHazTLIRt">https://t.co/yPHazTLIRt</a></p>&mdash; Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) <a href="https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1053671765082341378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But yeah basically like 75% of the world's most famous / powerful people did the same thing

Rock might have just been misinformed. Dude is trying to blow up his spot for clicks.

I see nothing wrong with his post. If being a nice person and listening to other's views is embarrassing then that's pretty sad. That's what America is all about but people don't like to listen to views they don't share anymore.

All of the famous people who did PR for Saudi Arabia should be criticized for it

Why should he be exempt from criticism?

A reporter is asking him to follow up to see if his thoughts have changed.

Doing propaganda for a mass murdering dictator to your millions of fans isn't just "being a nice person and listening to other people's views"

They can be criticized but there's likely a much better way to go about it than shaming him on social media.

The Rock will be the next President after Trump probably.

Keep in mind, they could have just drank the kool-aid and thought the dude was actually "progressive" only to later realize otherwise.

You say he's a mass murdering dictator, I don't know about that.

…….You can't be serious.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Crown Jewel could be in trouble.<br><br>I was just told Reigns is currently injured and that Cena and Bryan are &quot;refusing&quot; to work the show. Many on the current WWE roster have expressed concerned with going, as well, but obviously not all of them have the power like Cena/Bryan.</p>&mdash; Robbie Fox (@RobbieBarstool) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool/status/1054445652011302912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Highly doubt it or else they would have no problem pulling out of the deal by now. If they actually thought they were conned or played, the embassy scandal gave them the perfect excuse to pull out while saving face.

Between what's been reported about the deal and their own actions, WWE comes off as only caring about the money and having no issue sprouting whatever message the Saudis want put out.

More sites starting to report Cena/Dbry have told WWE they aren't working Crown Jewel and Roman being injured for a few weeks

Technically he isn't a dictator, he is the son of a dictator lol

I would not be surprised if WWE simply tapes their matches elsewhere and use tricky editing cuts to appear they are actually there. Close ups on the action, spliced in shots of the audience at Saudi Arabia, then back to the pretaped match.

They might also do something where Bryan gets an injury angle, and Joe takes his spot in the match.

Cena is easy, they could just say he forfeit's his match in the American Cup.

Roman being injured also doesn't really matter in a triple threat. They can hide/work around that.

In the end good for Bryan and Cena for not compromising their morals if the story is true about them refusing to go. It is nothing but a cash grab.

I think too as a fan, this doesn't feel like the last show thanks to the last show. GRR felt like it was gonna be a HUGE event, then it ended up being a worthless house show. No title changes, no storylines, bell even the actual GRR meant nothing, Braun didn't get anything from winning other than a green title that has never been used since. No title shots, they don't even mention it on tv.

My point is I would not be upset one bit if they cancelled it, because it just isn't important, and with it not being important all that is left is being offended WWE is willing to overlook everything for maybe $45 Million. Which by the way, WWE as a company is worth roughly $6.5 Billion, so we are talking about them overlooking horrific things to make less than 1% of their total value.

Oh I'm serious, I don't know anything about the guy so I'm not going to pass judgment just because the media says he's a bad guy. I have nothing against Saudi Arabia or how they run their country either.

Hm, you really ARE simple.

LOL. Who has to say he's a bad guy before you'll pass judgement? Who has to tell you that Saudi Arabia is among the worst, if not THE worst, human rights abusers on the planet? Or do you have to personally witness the atrocities yourself?

Fan will not believe it until they torture and murder HIM.

Maybe he's refusing to say anything negative about the crown prince because he's scared a hit squad might get him next!

Fan, don't ever enter a Saudi embassy!

I'd actually have to hear or see some proof. I don't really care that Saudi Arabia is a human rights abuser, they have a different culture and I can accept that, I don't condone it but I also don't know much about it. It's like a bible pusher trying to push his beliefs and way of life on you is how I see the US and whoever trying to make these countries more progressive. From what I've seen they've made some steps towards allowing woman to do more things but it feels like people want a 100% turnaround in one day.

I don't get why people think that because a whole bunch of other people do the wrong thing it excuses them from doing it. All of them deserve criticism for aligning themselves with this scumbag. The Rock doesn't get a pass because he's not the only guy.

It's not nice to support regimes that kill people. It's not nice to go to someone's house and hear screaming from the basement and just continue to drink wine. Listening to other people's views is a gross euphemism for enabling people to do evil shit.

Lol, it really wouldn't surprise me if he was President one day, but that is way too early. And a lot of the "memes" about President Rock are based on the foundation that he is a cool guy, the #1 guy in Hollywood and can do no wrong. If he shatters that illusion the well will dry up.

Thank fuck some guys get it. Good for Cena and Bryan. Cena took a shot in that John Oliver piece, and he's got a career and public image to worry about. Doing the propaganda promos is a great way to make sure no one takes him seriously as an up-and-coming celebrity.

Dude, you owe it to yourself to learn. It's not hard to do a Google search on "human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia." "Just because the media says," -- wtf, it's not just the media. It's the media (all forms, not just your paid and bought), it's people who have lived there, it's their documented history of executions and imprisoning people for voicing an opinion. If you have nothing against how they run their country...I can't help you.

Then look at the proof, Fan. It's fucking out there. How can you not give a shit they abuse human rights? How can you just call that a "different culture?"

It's just a "different culture" that they killed and hacked up that journalist. Not going to pass judgment on the morals there, guys. Fuck you.

I don't care it's legal to fuck and marry 12 year olds in the Philippines. It's just their culture.

Yeah, it's pretty wtf.

You are talking about a country that is still a monarchy, their citizens don't have the same rights I do. Human rights isnt a universal thing that every country abides by and I can accept that. As long as they don't come attacking my rights here in the USA then I could care less how their country is run.

Incredible.

Now having an Eli Drake avatar is your second biggest flaw.

It's just being real, you can't expect the whole world to be equal just because we're all human. Thats a fantasy that is never going to happen.

LMFAO this is surreal.

"I don't care if the neighbor murders people constantly as long as he doesn't murder me"

I don't think Fan gets that this is what he's saying.

Saudi Arabia is far from being my neighbor.

It's not being real at all. Being real is looking at a real crisis and saying "that's fucked" and not tucking your head between your legs and saying "la-la-la-la!". What do you think happened to that journalist? Be real about it -- what do you think happened and why?

I don't think your point about the whole world being equal really fits the framing of the conversation. It's not about "expecting" sunshine and roses. It's about not entering into business with shady dictators and trying to work towards change and making sure justice is served where you can.

Dude, we are all born on the same planet.

This made me chuckle.

The people of Saudi Arabia don't choose to have a brutal, backwards monarchy rule over them.

The monarchy/dictatorship uses hundreds of billions of dollars in American (and other countries') weapons and spy technology to rule over their population and crush any dissent. Peaceful protest is punishable by death.

The US (and UK and others) support the dictatorship because they can be controlled. Be our "allies" and do what we want and we'll keep you rich and in power. If the people of Saudi Arabia had a pesky democracy, they might start doing things that the US government and elite don't like and can't control.

In the <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/03/politics/trump-saudi-king-intl/index.html">words</a> of Donald Trump, the Saudi monarchy would not last two weeks without US support.

"We protect Saudi Arabia. And I love the King ... King Salman but I said 'King, we're protecting you. You might not be there for two weeks without us.'"

So it's not just some far off place that we have nothing to do with. Our government directly supports the monarchy.

It's probably the most hippy-esque thing I've said in my life, but it's just amazing how cunty people get when geography is involved. Like, they can't actually imagine the suffering because the people aren't living right down the road from them. These people have lives until this government strangles it out of them.

:y:

I think that journalist ran into the wrong people. I don't know what he did or what or knew but it doesn't concern me.

Good look working towards change and justice if you don't want to do business with them.

The wrong people were the Prince's hit squad. His main crime was speaking out against the Prince. Good luck working towards change when you actively try to help them stay in power and kill the people working towards change.

Ran into the wrong people?

Dude, those people were people that rule that country and he didn't "run into them", he just criticized them.

I can't believe we're really having this conversation.

"Well, I've got to keep donating to my church. I mean, there was a big expose on how they use that money to relocate child abusers and pay lawyers to intimidate anyone who speaks out about their suffering, so a bunch of people are getting hurt because of it, but if I don't shake their hand and pay my tithing, they'll never be forced to do anything else."

Fucking TNA fans.

I can't believe it's such a big deal really. If not for this place I'd not even know about it. I'll admit I'm ignorant to the situation but fucked up things happen everywhere and I don't concern myself with something on the other side of the earth.

I am seriously stunned. a) That you choose to live in such ignorance; b) That you can't believe that people actually care when an evil regime does such horrific things. And for fuck's sake, stop trying to justify the evil actions by one dictator by pointing out that other people do terrible things too. Those are just as terrible. It's all terrible. It doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

How close to where you currently are does something need to happen for you to have an opinion on it?

<img src="http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/6/2/0/128620.jpg?v=1" width="320" alt="See the source image" style="width: 320px; height: 290px;">

You're only ignorant by choice.

It's not like 'current events' are hard to hear about on the internet.

"Hitler is killing Jews because it's a different culture. I don't know anything about Hitler, I don't feel like reading about him, it's not my problem".

- Simple Fan in decades past

This show seems doomed

Roman can't go
Cena and Bryan won't go
Everyone wants them to not go

I figure something else will happen

There is a political narrative throughout the civilized world that Islam is a religion of peace and not a backward violent death cult aimed at the obliteration of gays, Jews, and atheists. Crimes committed by these theocratic states often go ignored by nightly news and political comedy shows. It's politically correct to ignore the atrocities committed in the name of Islam and instead to drone on and on about, "Not all Muslims" when ever something terrible happens.

Imagine if WWE pulls out and the Saudis rope in TNA for the deal and that gives them enough captial to become #1? lol

You talk too much. What matters is if it's far away from where you're at, you should not give a shit.

A) This guys death impacts my life in zero ways. O can believe people actually care about this but I still think it's a waste of time. I don't because murders happen all the time here in America which are much more important to me.

Agreed but I don't follow the news or politics. I could start reading one of those articles and be bored by the first paragraph and quit reading it.

Yes but the American government is a lot more efficient at killing people in their country and making it look like accident or at least not the governments fault. People aren't' mad that the Saudi's killed him, just the fact that they did such a poor job of getting away with it.This post is a joke

Why are murders in America important to you?

Because I'm American.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JohnCena?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JohnCena</a> is reportedly off of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a>’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CrownJewel?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CrownJewel</a> Pay-per-view! - <a href="https://t.co/OgIDfdQq9p">https://t.co/OgIDfdQq9p</a> <a href="https://t.co/G5jZFraU18">pic.twitter.com/G5jZFraU18</a></p>&mdash; WWE on PopCulture (@WWEonPopCulture) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonPopCulture/status/1054763126107848705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Prince paid good money to see Cena he better be looking over his shoulder

When you guys keep referring to him just as Prince, I can't stop imagining this guy.

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/15/08/13/z19958037V,Prince.jpg

He even looks like he's ordering someone killed in this photo.

You’re also an earthling. Why is the American classification the one you find important? If you’re gonna narrow it down, why stop there? Why not only care about murders in your state? Or your city? Or on your street? Or inside your house?

How do you know murders happen if you don't follow any news tho

I wish Simple Fan well but I think it'd be easier if he just posted he doesn't care about other people and is apathetic to what happens to them. Unless they are standing next to him, then he is mildly concerned.

The man's honest, gotta give 'em that!

Maybe Simple Fan is the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia and he just wants us not to care either.

Simple Prince

And that, ladies and germs, is how propaganda works.

Dude knows nothing about a country, sees 1 shiny video about that country, now has hard opinions about that country

And not only does he have opinions about it, he will now reject additional facts that don’t support the opinion he formed from watching that 1 shiny video.

He doesn't call himself Simple Fan for ironic reasons.

Yeah, it's very good that he went with "simple" and not "regular fan" or "just a fan".

Spot on.

As of 90 min ago there's a rumour they're scouting alternate venues.

Let me win 1.6 billion tonight and it'll be in my backyard

If I win 1.6 Billion, Alexa Bliss and Mandy Rose are getting this dick. They'll never have to work again.

I watched zero videos on this subject. What facts have I rejected? I wouldn't say I have a hard opinion either, I just don't give a shit about what goes down in Saudi Arabia.

It's not that I don't care about other people, I think you should treat others how you want to be treated. As far as forign countries go though they rarely cross my mind. I also don't think all humans share the same rights.

Because I live in America in that's more likely to impact my life than this journalist death. My state, city, street, and house are all in America as well.

I could understand this if we were talking about a pedophile, not a journalist.

Because that shit happens everyday. When I do catch the news its full of murders, kid nsppings, and thefts. Who wants to watch that?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UPDATE: WWE is currently in the process of frantically scouting locations to move Crown Jewel to. This is NOT definite confirmation that it's out of Saudi Arabia, but the location and date are unquestionably in major jeopardy right now.</p>&mdash; Robbie Fox (@RobbieBarstool) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool/status/1054808292361453568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What a shitstorm this has to be for Shawn Michaels. Comes out of retirement after 8 years for a $2Million paycheck, gonna end up getting probably like $50,000 for a house show at Full Sail University.

Bruh, you literally said your knowledge of this was from watching WWE’s video about Saudi Arabia. Then when multiple people pointed out all that is terrible about Saudi Arabia, your response was that you weren’t sure if you believed all those stories. They’re your words, babe.

This is interesting. Can you please rank the humans in order from most rights to least rights?

At least he would be in front of a crowd who knew what they were cheering for :shifty:

:( those poor pizzas getting smooshed and ruined all because of that dastardly Crown Jewel thread.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9gNG3-4LUVY" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

just got home so I can now embed this. I say that the video about sums up the whole Crown Jewel debacle.

Most: Humans born under a free democracy.

Least: Humans born under a currupt monarchy/dictatorship.

He should have stayed in America.

You don't cease to amaze me.

Is Simple Fan playing a character?

That’s cool, that’s cool. Which rights do the people born under a corrupt monarchy/dictatorship not get?