Not really. I mean, TESO aside, all the main entries always take the series to an as-yet unvisited area with each new entry (Vvardenfell in TES III: Morrowind, Cyrodiil in TES IV: Oblivion, and Skyrim in TES V: Skyrim).

How about that Elder Scrolls 6 trailer at E3 last year? Hoo boy.

How about the trailers we did end up getting?

Yeah, I never even came close to implying that TES VI would be out any time soon nor talk about a non-existent trailer of any kind, but read whatever you want into my post because why the fuck not.

What the monkey are you on about? I'm saying that like every rumor of the next GTA, every rumor about the next Elder Scrolls has had nothing behind it, including the rumored ES6 trailer that was supposed to debut last e3.

I was just reporting what I saw. I wasn't saying I was putting any kind of stock into any of the rumors. Settle down and stop shooting the messenger, FFS.

Best bet is to have it in NY/NJ and call it a day.

I dunno...LC and LS both feel kind of played out now. I'd like to see a modern VC setting or a new, unvisited location, such as a fictional Chicago or Detroit.

I'd like to see the game take place in 2 different times and maybe even 2 different cities... i.e. You start off in Vice City a young man, get busted for 20 years, then get released and move to Liberty City and continue your life of crime as an adult.....

Just want the world eh?

I don't know how old he was at the time, but I know Tommy Vercetti was arrested in Liberty City in 1971 and did 15 years in prison and after his release in 1986, he's sent to Vice City by Sonny Forelli to help on a drug deal, which restarts his criminal career down there and his following rise to power as a criminal kingpin.

Not that I'm opposed to the idea, IJS.

I don't really care where its set or if Vercetti or Vice City is involved, I just like the premise of having two distinct time periods as I think there's loads of story paths that you could go with that idea

It would be cool if they did a new city, and all the stuff that everyone wants. And then a year later release a prison add on where you are a prisoner and the ultimate goal is to create a crazy riot and escape.

Toronto and Buffalo

lol nobody is going to get hyped about playing in Buffalo

The reason people in Buffalo play video games is to escape the realities of living there.

You start out in Buffalo and escape to Toronto?

They should do a 3 city game again like San Andreas. Only this time do London, Paris, Berlin.

I'm with Seph on this.

I'd like Rockstar to take the setting International.

lol I've been to Toronto. It would still feel like slumming it after the last games.

Look, I just tried to think of 2 cities that were close to each other. :(

Not making fun of you. Making fun of the idea if the "big city reveal" were Buffalo.

Twin Cities.

GTA: Minnesotaaah

Well, I mean, there's as much chance they do that as set the next game in Ludendorff/North Yankton (North Dakota?) which is seen in the beginning of V and later, during the mission "Bury the Hatchet".

Toronto & Buffalo could work, or a pair of cities similar to it.... One city is smaller with the smaller map (easier to animate), then the character goes to jail, "ties up lose ends" in the small town and moves to "the big city"

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/gt.../1100-6493368/

2025. Fucking hell.

Yeah they're going to milk GTA 5 for all its worth.

Feel like they already have. Personally I’ve gone as far as I can with the game. But obviously people keep biting on any extra content they have so I don’t blame them.

Same basic principle as Bethesda creating a new IP (Starfield) and holding off on saying anything about TES VI other than "it exists...kinda". They know that TESO is wildly successful and want to take it for all it's worth. The difference is it's not a steaming pile of dog shit like GTAO is. So if that trend continues over the next couple of years, what's to say Bethesda don't set more of their focus on Fallout 5 post-Starfield and all it's extra content as opposed to TES VI?

Anyway, I wouldn't want to be in their shoes trying to decide which of those 2 to pursue next. Nobody's going to forget FO76 anytime soon, and anything short of the overall quality of FNV (which, yes, we're all aware Obsidian put out, not Bethesda) might not be enough to move it off shelves when it releases. As for TES VI, fan expectations are already through the stratosphere, with people wanting extreme amounts of innovation yet still some features that would make it more like TES III: Morrowind or TES IV: Oblivion.

Oh no they haven't. People are still buying the exorbantly priced shark cards like hot cakes, despite what a massive ripoff they are. Pay the price of a brand new game for one high end vehicle.

What's worse is you don't even need to buy them. I've never bought a single one, but I own a bunch of businesses, a garage full of high end vehicles, and all 3 command center vehicles.

I did buy the criminal enterprise pack. That's a legit good deal though.

A lot (not all) of the extra DLC has been free though. They're mostly preying on people gullible enough to buy Shark cards like there's no tomorrow so they can buy the new hot billion dollar supercar in-game. That's what pisses me off with R* right now. It's corporate greed at its worst. I've kicked GTAO to the curb since at least a couple years ago now, and I don't miss it one bit.

Damn...now my post looks redundant but at least we agree that Shark cards are the fucking worst. Everyone talks about Bethesda becoming the next EA, but isn't R* closer to that point right now? I would argue they are.

Despite the ripoff shark cards, gtao is fantastic. There is more to do in this game than any other live service game I've ever played. In an open world more detailed than any other. It's grindy, but everything that gets added is there permanently. No limited time events or battle passes that are gone forever if you miss them.

Yeah, that's true, but I also was extremely put off by and fed up with the extremely toxic community, and was just tired of trolls and other people killing me over and over with no provocation and doing other troll shit. I guess you could say it pushed me to a breaking point where I just could not anymore.

2025. I can wait.

I'd rather Rockstar keep their Golden Child status in the video gaming industry. Let them take all the time in the world.

OH GTA 5 has been milked for all it's worth. Now it's all about GTA Online.

Yeah, I rolled with heisenberg and friends, and people are a lot less likely to fuck with you when you're in a group.

I would also use a trick to get myself in a solo lobby when I wanted to run business stuff unbothered.

Yeah I did the private lobby thing for that purpose too. It's sad that it was basically a requirement at one point for making any kind of money efficiently because for the most part the public lobbies weren't really full of bad eggs.

Really? We're going to sit here and play the semantics game? Everyone knows which one is the single player game and which is the MMO. It's not fucking rocket science.

And everyone knows which makes Rockstar that stripper money.

*SIGH...*

R* is nothing like EA. EA is the worst.

R* is a developer. Their publisher, Take 2 interactive may not be as bad as EA, but with stuff like the aforementioned shark cards, and NBA 2k's gambling bullshit, they're certainly making a go of it.

https://kotaku.com/the-gta-remastere...omi-1847474620

The GTA (PS2) trilogy is coming to switch.

The trilogy is now coming to PS4, PS5, XBox One and XBox X as well. Graphical enhancements and modern gameplay updates.

Expected to cost $70 on next gen.

Pass.

LMFAO - not this time Rock*

I dunno. I might get it. If the upgrades are substantial enough to warrant it. And once that price drops down to $40 like the Mass Effect trilogy remaster was.

IF it's decently priced on PS4, I might consider grabbing it.

I'm getting it. Three games now using the GTA4/5 engine. Yes.

Might get it on switch when it's on sale.

Yeah but that's not supposed to be the main look of the worlds themselves, only certain elements will use that, while still retaining the classic feel of the games. It's a remaster, not a remake.

I don't know what to believe. There's big rumors that the graphic upgrades are minimal but the leaked PC minimal specs are for an I5 and recommended I7.

If it's just going to basically be a rerelease with modern GTA game controls...ehhhhh

That's basically what should be expected. It's a remaster, not a remake, the latter of which would be more akin to if they gave it the Mafia: The Definitive Edition treatment, which is not what's happening.

yeah...but if the specs are to be believed...those are pretty high for the trilogy.

It's just because they're doing the bits that will be graphically overhauled in Unreal Engine as opposed to R.A.G.E.

You'll be setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect any of the 3 games to look like GTA V.

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looks good enough for me

Looks very PS3 and I'm okay with that. I hope they got to keep most of the music in Vice City.

ill def grab it.

Dr. Dre recording new original music the gor trilogy makes me VERY sceptical of the OG sound tracks being represented in full though

I only ever played GTA:SA at a friends so I'm looking forward to playing it

I was in I need to graduate high school and get into college mode.

licensing is a bitch

This should...mostly? assuage any fears with one or two exceptions.

https://www.playstationtrophies.org/...gameplay-.html

i can live with it.

LOL People are really going to town shitting all over the remasters. Even had them removed from certain online stores.

Yeah...I'm definitely glad I picked up the Tiny Tina standalone Dragon Keep game for $10 this week, and keeping my wallet closed to R*'s grubby greedy hands...FOR SHAME! :nono:

LMFAO...I wish I could make up what I'm about to write, but evidently, data miners found every single missing soundtrack across all 3 games in the game files just sitting there disabled.

I mean, I kinda get it, licensing music for any game can be a bitch and a half, but I'm sure the vast majority would have preferred if they took care of it anyway since they've got all that sweet sweet GTAO money. And FFS, they could've even used the time to polish the remasters way more. Instead they've chosen to hoard as much Shark Card profits as possible and pump out GTAV and GTAO onto 9th generation consoles, the third generation in a row, so they can keep swindling suckers they know will keep paying for the Shark Cards.

Might be for the best if something so horrible happened to R* as to put them out of business for good. At this point, how can anyone possibly think GTA VI will be any good? And especially at $70 current gen for the base game and whatever exorbitant prices they decide to charge for the inevitable BS "special" and "collector's" editions?

i do get it. they were probably hoping to secure the licensing at the 11th hour and werent able to so they clicked a few buttons and hit send. its a shame

i really wish these were on disc instead of 1 game + 2 downloads. i still think im going to get them but im considering not. in 20 years when the consoles battery fails I'll lose the games...so whats the point...

Oh the C-Bomb/CMOS battery thing? That was resolved with update 9.00 on PS4 a while back, and they JUST fixed it like a week or 2 ago for PS5. Pretty sure, and somewhat understandably so, the only console Sony hasn't fixed it on is PS3. Which sucks, just like that thing's architecture...kind of a shame too, because that aside it really was a pretty decent bit of hardware. But yeah, I get it, they're a business, etc.

Just seems like they patched PS4 and PS5 more for PR reasons and to avoid potential future lawsuits, however frivolous or not they would have been. Not also fixing the PS3 does make me wonder if they actually do care at this point in time about preserving video game history. Sad to say, I still think the answer is no.

well thats a boon for sure. ill moniter the patches and maybe i'll do the digital bundle. still dont see a reason to pay for 1 game and 2 download codes. even in the present state id buy them if they were all on disc just to own them

The only time I EVER buy a digital game is if that is the only way it's available and I reaaaallllyyyy gotta play it. Otherwise, I require my games to be on disc. I want physical possession of things I buy.

so in this instance where youre only getting gta3 physically...?

this is my dilema

because im with you completely

I was already on the fence about whether I was going to get them or not. Knowing that they are digital only for 2 of the games and there are mad issues apparently with the games anyways...I'm not so much on the fence anymore. More like I'm about 30 yards away from the fence wondering if there is anything worth looking at over there at all.

I imagine if I ever do decide to play them it will be via more nefarious means at this point.

Other than wanting all my games to be physical, I also take issue with games that have a single player campaign and require you to be always online.

If I buy a single player game on a disc I want to be able to play it whenever I want, including when I'm not connected to the internet.

i dropped my preorder a few hours ago. im not saying i wont pick it up but not in its current state

I am 100% digital. Don't have to worry about disks getting damaged or the sensor in the hardware going bad. I don't keep my consoles forever so I don't have to worry about a battery going bad. I don't even have time to play half my backlog now, let alone revisit some game on another system from years ago. So I'm not terribly worried about the downsides of digital.

def on the other end of the spectrum from me. i go back and play decades old games all the time. the pre HD games are an issue since modern tvs make them look horrendous though. then there's the issue of digital is leasing and physical is owning.


to be topical the PC digital purchase of the GTA trilogy has been taken off the store and is unplayable currently and to top it off there's no option to refund. a game you purchased just a few days ago is not playable. im sure they fix the issue with the tracks being disable vs removed and get it back up in short order but this is what it is to make a digital "purchase." you dont own anything.

I was kinda excited about this. For some reason, I was kinda jonesing to play III, take Guru to the hideout from the prison bus, then run over to the car lot to steal the Banshee and tool around town blasting GAME Radio... but the more and more news that keeps happening on this, I don't want to play it at all, and may just have to dust off the PS2, and hope it's one of the games I still have.

Although it is kinda hilarious that this release sucks as as bad as it does. I got the re-release of San Andreas on 360 (I think it was on the 360 - digitally), and remember being upset about some of the music being butchered (it was all there, but there were a couple of songs that skipped, the DDR-esque minigame section with Hollywood Swingin' was OFF BEAT, and whenever you failed a date, the "FUCK YOU, I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!" was "edited". I wondered how that could be that bad years later. Didn't know it could and would get worse.

My two concerns before all this was if all the music would be included (I figured music rights would be a concern; learned that lesson on the HD release of THPS) and if the flight mechanics in III and Vice City would at least be up to the standard of San Andreas. I mean, the Dodo in III was damn near impossible to fly, and VC didn't do much better... and also maybe if they retroactively gave Claude and Tommy the ability to swim (hey, remember the Driver dig at GTA:VC with "Timmy Vermencelli" wearing water floaties?)

Now, I'd be more concerned about seeing through the rain effects, or janky nightmare fuel character models. This went from a day-one purchase to a no day anywhere soon purchase.

flight in san andreas looks pretty rough. for whatever reason theyve removed the fog and the draw distance is total so you can see this naked map in full and its laughable

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That looks breathtakingly bad.

Sooooo...yeah...R* and Take-Two have been struggling to keep up with the massive flood of refund demands, and the games have been review bombed into oblivion on MetaCritic, with the lowest score being 0.5 and the highest at 0.7.

All they had to do was follow the damned train.

So for people who actually spent $ on the "definitive" edition and are keeping it, someone noticed a new, very detailed photo of what appears to be the house from The Golden Girls, which ran from 1985-1992. Easter egg, or perhaps a hint that GTA VI could be set between and covering some or all of those years, in VC?

I'll probably still never touch GTA VI if it ever comes to fruition, but it is rather interesting, I suppose. Maybe a game set there covers 1985, filling in some or all of the plot between VCS's 1984 and VC's 1986 settings. Obviously if it were to be set in VC, 1986 is almost certainly eliminated, so as not to overshadow Tommy Vercetti's story. Otherwise it could be cool to see it set in VC between and or covering some or all of the 1987-1991 (1992 is obviously the setting of SA, which while that's a different location, I doubt they'd want to mess with C.J.'s story) time frame. However, with the precedent set by GTA IV and followed in V, if they were to go back to VC, it would probably be set in the modern day.

I know, for someone who couldn't care a bit about GTA VI, I sure launched into a bunch of different theories, but yeah...it just sort of piqued my interest a little and got my mind racing with ideas, but I'm still never supporting R* with another red cent of my $, you can rest assured of that.

the live service model of 5 makes me think my time with gta has come to an end. its not what i want from games. i dont think its inherently bad but it doesnt fit my tastes...6...if the story is 40 hours I'll get it. any less I'll wait for a price the suits the value i designate.

That's fair. 👍

GTA VI: Starring Betty White.

I'm with Destor on GTA as a whole. If 6 doesn't have the usual substantial and high quality single player campaign and instead focuses on the live service aspect then I am out.

I think they really pissed off the community by basically promising an add-on to V's single-player story that never came to fruition, and instead put all their efforts into releasing add-ons free to GTAO and going for the bigger cash grab by offering Shark Cards.

R* have brought their reputation on themselves, and The "Definitive" edition of the trilogy just showed they no longer give a single fuvk about their fans. I once thought nobody could out-greedy EA (SW: BF II with their infamous mtx loot boxes), then Bethesda came along (FO76), and now with the new editions of III/VC/SA, we see that R* clearly didn't have to pay the former War Drum Games, renamed Grove Street Games after being acquired, to buy them and have them hurriedly crap out the "definitive" edition games.

Not sure if there is any triple A publisher left, that hasn't garnered contempt from its audience.

Indy devs looking like the only people you can trust these days.

I don't hate rockstar but I'm not super into games as I used to be. Unless they are easy to pick up and play (Fall Guys, Among Us)

Well...they might have put out a half-assed apology, but at least for people who were duped into buying the definitive edition on PC, they're offering those people free copies of the versions that released on PS3/PS4 and 360/XB1 and the same version that released on PC in the 2010s, but only on PC...why not also to people who bought TDE on PS4/PS5 and XB1 and XBSS/XBSX?

Also, I hope these patches they are promising to address "a number of issues" in TDE aren't just minor things but also performance and other issues. At least they should try and make it seem like they didn't just outsource the lions share of the work to a random developer to touch up the lighting and a few other areas to slightly improve parts of the games while leaving the rest to rot from the ports of the mobile games. It reeks of laziness.

Also, I get it, gAmErS ArE aNgRy, but that's no excuse to be sending hateful comments and death threats and all that bullshit at the developers or anybody. People who do that are the lowest if the low and we'd all prefer if they'd kindly give up gaming altogether because doing things like that every time one of these seemingly increasing instances of a game that looks promising turning out to be dog shit just be sure they can't control their rage lends credence to people's opinions who don't game that games tend to sometimes cause violence, which has never been proven.

saying youre going to kill someone on twitter isnt a death threat. its old man yells at clouds. but i hear you. they are embarrassing humans to share a species with.

hopefully in a years time these are in a serviceable state and i can play them...

It's The Golden Girls pulling heists. And they'll reference flicks like Point Break, where they'll wear president masks and skydive and shit. And they'll all have individual story tracts, such as Blanche literally whoring around, and Sophia collecting the largest arsenal in the most sarcastic way possible.

Tremendous!

Estelle Getty is a national treasure for The Golden Girls and the film Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot.

Betty White would fuck her up.

Bea Arthur with a TOPE SUICIDA!!!!

I can sit here and bitch about Rockstar and they do deserve criticism...but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't gonna jump on GTA 6 whenever it comes out.

Unless there was NO story and it was just a fully online game from the jump, I'd still get it.