Where was that graphic that listed all the incredible late game stats Goldschmidt led in? I'll have to find it tonight or tomorrow.

MVP winners were announced:
NL - Andrew McCutchen
AL - Miguel Cabrera

So, here's how that Max Scherzer trade is working out for the Diamondbacks:

Ian Kennedy: 8.5 total WAR with DBacks
Edwin Jackson: 0.1 WAR with DBacks + 1 no hitter

Jackson was traded for Daniel Hudson and David Holmberg

Hudson: 4.5 total WAR (still with team, recovering from Tommy John surgery)
Holmberg: 0.1 WAR (still with team)

Kennedy traded for Joe Thatcher and Matt Stites

Thatcher: -0.3 WAR (still with team)

Stites: played at AA San Antonio next year, jury still out.

TOTAL: 12.9 WAR

Scherzer: Worth 15.4 WAR to Detroit BY HIMSELF over the past 4 seasons to Detroit.

Going to go hang myself now.

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Love this guy.

I would die if that happened, even though I highly doubt it will.

<font color=goldenrod>I believe they reached a settlement. But it's painfully obvious at this point that they have no money. Since Alderson came on board they've raised the fan bases' expectations that this was the offseason where they'd start to spend money, but now they're backing off of it.

Alderson carefully dances around every answer, simply saying "we'll spend more on free agents than we did last year" when they only spent $5 million on free agents last year. He also belittled the fan base this week, saying "it's a shame that a part of the fanbases' team loyalty is tied in to how much money we spend". Fuck off with that shit.

With the Byrd contract there are already whispers that it will set a baseline for corner outfielder that the Mets will not be able to afford, and I'm hearing they still don't want to sign anybody who will make them lose a draft pick even though their 1st round pick is protected.</font>

Dear AA; Take the very first offer you get!

Carlos Ruiz staying in PHI: 3yrs/$26mil. $4.5mil club option or $500k buyout for 2017. Can also make $500k per year if he starts 125 games, which he has never done in his career.

Not crazy about the years, but I'm not sure there was a better RH option besides McCann and he'll command a ton of money. And again, more money to spend on other areas (like pitching!).

Giants sign Tim Hudson. 2 years, $23 mil.

MadBum, Cain, The Freak, and now Hudson. That's a solid lineup the Giants got there.

As long as he can stay healthy.

<font color=goldenrod>Phil Hughes to the Twins for 3 years, $24 million. What the fuck, free agency?</font>

Robinson Cano ended up dropping around $58 million and 1 year from his demands with him now wanting around $252 million and 9 years from the Yankees.

Yankees increased their offer by $10 million and 2 years to $170 million and 9 years while he'd probably need to drop another $50 million to get anyone else interested if the Yankees drop out.

<font color=goldenrod>I've always assumed Cano and the Yankees would wind up coming to an agreement. Until he actually signs elsewhere I don't believe he will leave.</font>

$8 mil. a year for Philbert. That sounds fair. Could have gotten more if he didn't stink it up this season.

Cano ain't getting $200+ mil. Good for the Yankees for playing hardball right now. Although I would like them to give him their final offer with a time limit on it.

I just fist pumped reading Hughes signed elsewhere.

<font color=goldenrod>I've said it ad nauseum already this offseason but the Mets really are fucked with these prices for free agents. They were hoping to get Bronson Arroyo for 2 years tops but there's really no reason for him to not want 3 guaranteed years given that he's been better and more reliable than Hughes.

Already reading the Mets are shifting their attention to 3rd tier free agents who will sign for 1 year. Ugh.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>Also for some reason MetsBlog keeps posting updates on the Cano contract negotiation. "The Mets and Cano met in early November but there has been nothing since then indicating interest from either side."

Seeing Yankee/Cano updates on MetsBlog is like watching your ex live it up on Facebook.</font>

Don't jinx it, Vito. Cano may very well stay in New York. But as a Met with a big ass albatross contract.

<font color=goldenrod>There is zero chance Cano would come to the Mets. He'd probably demand double from them what he's asking from the Yankees.

Say what you will about the Omar Minaya era, but at least his Mets teams were mostly competitive and I actually looked forward to the offseason when he was at the helm.</font>

A's signed Scott Kazmir to a 2 year, $22 million deal. A's originally wanted Tim Hudson but took Kazmir after Hudson signed with the Giants (2 year, $23 million).

Tigers save around $6 million from the trade while also currently having Drew Smyly replace Fister's spot in the rotation.

Goddamnit those are all perfect Washington Nationals player names being traded away and ruining my theory that only players with weird last names play for the Washington Nationals. This really hurts.

Fister is a pretty good name though. Not a huge loss actually.

Looks like the Tigers are saying "Fuck it. Let's start over again with Miggy at the center of it all and go from there."

UPDATE: Daniel Hudson non-tendered by D'Backs. Sigh.

J.P Arencibia non-tendered after the Jays sign Navarro

Bye. Hope you get shot leaving Toronto.

O's trade Jim Johnson to the A's for Jemile Weeks.

Winter Meetings are gonna be boring.

J.P. was a highly touted catcher, supposed to be face of the franchise kind-of-guy.


LOL, but then he mostly sucked

Red Sox signed A.J. Pierzynski to a 1 year, $8.25 million deal. Talks between them and Jarrod Saltalamacchia broke down completely with the biggest issue being years since he wanted at least 3 years while the team was only willing to offer 1-2 years.


Tigers close to signing Joe Nathan after their previous choice of Brian Wilson dropped interest in potentially signing a deal.

D-Backs traded Heath Bell to the Rays. Rays also get Ryan Hanigan from Cincy.

#HeathBellExperience

GOODBYE

Tigers make a terrible trade getting rid of Fister. Were having such a good offseason too. Oh well.

HOT FUCKING STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE

Mariners officially joined the bidding war for Robinson Cano and according to ESPN, very unlikely the Yankees are keeping him unless they give him at least $200 million.


Jacoby Ellsbury is asking for at least a "Carl Crawford"-like deal (7 years, $142 million range) as the minimum for him to stay with the Red Sox and/or any other teams interested.

Yankees supposedly closing in on a deal for Ellsbury.

Fucking yuck.

Signed him to a 7 year, $153 million deal.


Surprised a bit it wasn't Seattle that got him since they were rumored to easily be willing to offer more than what the Sox and others would.

Going to feel dirty about this until his first good game, then I'll buy his jersey.

Going to be interesting what to do with Gardner if they play Ellsbury in center, seeing if he can stay healthy.

Horrible news.

McCann, Ellsbury, this is 2009 all over again. $189 is going out the window.

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK! WE TURNED DAMON AFTER HIS WORLD SERIES, NOW WE BRING WELCOME ELLSBURY TO THE DARK SIDE AFTER HIS!

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Thats a horrible deal for Ellsbury. He's the one guy I wanted the Yankees to stay away from because of how overrated he has become. Terrible move if it means them missing out on Cano. Oh well.

Ellsbury is a trader

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Hahahahhaha Yankees. hahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahah

Jays linked to Brett Anderson. Great idea for the Jays because I thought they lacked starting pitchers who get hurt.

Lol Gregg Zaun had a great comment: he hit 20 homers but 95 % of players could hit 20 in this park if they swung for the fences every time they went to bat.

I had such hopes for J.P. Navarro/Kratz are such a giant upgrade over Arencibia/Thole.

<font color=goldenrod>Oh, what was that? Another day where the Mets get linked to several free agents but don't actually pull the trigger on any of them? Shocker!</font>

Yankees to sign Kelly Johnson.

Window's closing, Cano. Better make a decision, quick.

They have to fill Josh Johnson's IR spot

Who are the Yankees planning on having in the outfield?

So far sounds like Gardner in left, Ellsbury in center, Soriano in right

You got Ichiro on the bench or as DH?

From ESPN and Rotoworld:

* Marlins signed Jarrod Saltalamacchia to a 3 year, $21 million deal

* Carlos Beltran expected to sign with the Royals with the deal being in the 3 years, $48 million range.

* Mariners rumored to be in a possible trade with the Dodgers for Matt Kemp although Dodgers would need to eat most of Kemp's contract in the deal.

* White Sox resigned Paul Konerko to a 1 year, $2.5 million deal

* Mets and Red Sox currently are going after Curtis Granderson with the Mets likely to offer the 4th year that he wants.

* Rockies signed Justin Morneau to a 2 year, $13 million deal

* Yankees increased their offer to Robinson Cano to now $175 million while the Mariners are rumored to be willing to offer around $200 million and 8 years.

Don't know why anyone would wanna play for the Marlins these days.

lots of talk of the mariners being a buyer for the last couple years, but haven't seen it happen yet.

I can see their switching DH/RF between Soriano and Ichiro, depending on what type of pitcher it is. Girardi loves his binder matchups.

From Rotoworld:

* Mets are very close to signing Curtis Granderson with the deal rumored to be in the range of $15+ million per year for 3-4 years.

* Red Sox signed Edward Mujica to a 2 year, $9.5 million deal.

* Brewers traded Norichika Aoki to the Royals in return for Will Smith. Brewers also stated Ryan Braun will take over Aoki's spot next year in RF.

* Dodgers currently in talks with Brian Wilson with the deal likely being 2 years with just the first year guaranteed.

* Red Sox currently rumored to be interested in Matt Kemp with the Dodgers willing to eat up most of his contract while the Sox are unsure how many players they would be willing to give up.

Hmmmm. With these new posting rules that might go into effect, the Rakuten Golden Eagles might not post Masahiro Tanaka.

Kinda sucks.

Apparently the Mariners are willing to offer Cano 10 years/230-240M.

I don't think the Yankees are getting near that number.

<font color=goldenrod>Mets are supposedly holding firm on a 3 year deal for Granderson. If the Red Sox or another team jump in with a guaranteed 4 year deal the Mets will probably miss out just like they did with Michael Bourn last year.</font>

WiiU must have sold well over in Japan.

Let Seattle jump on board the Titanic with us. The Angels did when they signed Pujols to that mega deal. Look how that's turned out.

Jay-Z asked for 10 years, 252 mil from Seattle. They're now out of the bidding.

Lol turning down 9 years at $225 million.

I still believe he will come back to the Bronx. His price will drop further as I can't see anyone else coming close to what Seattle was offering.

Maybe he was always looking to stay with the Yankees at around $190-200 million and they were just stringing Seattle along to try and force the Yankees' hand.

Of course he's stringing the Mariners along. Everyone does

Holy shit now it sounds like the Mariners might cave for 10 years, around $240 million.

ESPN is saying they've agreed to to 10/$240

Granderson to the Mets! They gave him the 4th year.

With Granderson and Chris Young, the Mets should get a lot more power production from their outfield and fantastic defense paired with Lagares. A shitload of K's but I'll take it.

Good for Mets/Grandy. Always liked him, got into a bad string of getting hit. Since he won't be on the Yankees, pitchers will throw at him less.

Thanks for your service, Grandy & Cano.

Well, $189 is looking pretty real right now.

From ESPN and Rotoworld:

* Mariners are currently be interested in Bartolo Colon, David Price, Shin-Soo Choo, Carlos Beltran, and Nelson Cruz

* Rangers signed J.P. Arencibia

* Rangers currently the frontrunners to get Mike Napoli with the Red Sox as #2. Marlins and Mariners also interested in him.

* Yankees close to resigning Hiroki Kuroda to a 1 year, $16 million deal

* Dodgers resigned Brian Wilson to a 1 year, $10 million deal.

$189M, a horrible Ellsbury contract and no playoffs.

The Ellsbury contract really doesn't make a lot of sense to me in any scenario. Adding him with Cano is the only situation where I could maybe understand. Him instead of Cano is a pretty huge step back now though.

Not even with the addition of McCann?

I'd rather that money go towards getting some pitching. Nova and CC, until Kuroda's deal gets done, are the only two pitchers in the rotation.

Don't forget the ghost of Michael Pineda.

Ellsbury is 5.8 WAR. Way above the other OFs. Cano is 6 even.

Ill take that trade off. If the Yanks play it safe they can land Infante and Jacoby for a lot less than Cano on MUCH shorter deals and come out ahead.

Ellsbury was also 1.4, 9.2, -0.2, 2.1, 4.1 and 1.3 WAR his previous years. Not exactly any model of consistency. I take Cano over Ellsbury/Infante any day.

Not saying I would have gone 10 years for Cano but I would have upped the offer if I was the Yankees and at least make him think a little about it. Sticking firm at 170M obviously meant Cano was leaving.

Fear Nap's Beard. Back in Bahstan for 2 years and 32 mil

Carlos Beltran lands in Yankeeland. 3-years, $45 mil.

We got ourselves quite the party in the outfield.

<font color=goldenrod>Yankees need to do something about those outfielders. A bunch of reporters have thrown out a crosstown Daniel Murphy for Brett Gardner trade possibility.

I don't get it. Gardner would instantly be the Mets' best leadoff hitter option but losing Murphy would still be an overall downgrade for the lineup. Also Gardner is a free agent after 2014 whereas Murphy will be under team control through 2015. Granderson-Lagares-Chris Young with Eric Young Jr. as a roving 4th outfielder should be fine.</font>

All these moves seem outlandish at first glance.

Are the Mariners really doing this?? I memba when the internet got hot n heavy when Jack Z built a team all around pitching and defense (Franklin Gutierrez and Jose Lopez were hitting 3 and 4....yup) and it bombed horribly. Now he's just going balls out. Bet he's fired mid season.

Thought the Yanks were trying to trim payroll. Not thinking they were going to retool or anything but they'be tried this before with "meh" results. Picturing Jacoby losing his legs and just being super expensive Johnny Damon. Great thing about being the Yankees is one contract won't cripple your franchise like a Vernon Wells deal does to a team like the Jays.

Yeah...Thought Detroit knew how good Fister was.

Thought the A's learned their lesson after giving Ben Sheets $10 mil to rehab. how does anyone trust Kazmir for anything more than a year?

Granderson makes the Mets....what? Maybe a .500 team? Is there something they have that I'm missing? Matt Harvey is out all year, right?

Long time to go before Ps & Cs report, but this is a strange time on the hot stove.

Go Jays!

Eric Kratz baby!

Ugh. Rakuten Golden Eagles must have caved. New NPB posting rules might go into effect this week. Any team who ponies up $20 mil. will be able to negotiate with the player.

No more highest bid, exclusive negotiation rights.

Why ugh? Just adds another free agent to the pool but add $20 mil.

If ugh is for the Eagles not being able to cash out on Tanaka, then Yah.

Kinda that.

But I don't like how MLB is sorta being a bully in this. I'm looking at this as being like "If you won't agree to our rules/changes, then your players can't play in MLB"

I liked the silent auction system. Fax over a figure, NPB team will announce the winner on a certain day, and we the fan base can debate on the $ figure.


Gotta admit, Matsuzaka getting posted all those years ago made this stuff entertaining and good watercooler material the day after.

Supposedly the biggest proposal left undecided is what happens in case of multiple teams. Small market teams are pushing for the worst record team to get first dibs while bigger teams want the NPB player to decide.

Whole thing revolves around a rumor of the Yankees wanting to go all out with a contract offer if it was up to the NBP player choice without having to worry about the big posting fee needed to be paid to the NPB team and also counting towards the luxury cap.

That WAS the plan from the get go. Put up a big dollar amount and no one matches us and try to work out a deal.

Joe Torre, Bobby Cox, and Tony La Russa have been unanimously to the Baseball Hall of Fame by the "expansion era committee".

Maybe next year for Dale Sveum

Roy Halladay to sign a one day contract with the Blue Jays and retire.

Bummer :(

Always loved watching him pitch.

Mark Prior officially hangs up the cleats.

Fucking hate Dusty Baker so much.

Matt Kemp to the Mariners?

what do you think about that senerio

Kevin Towers is a madman right now.

Trying to swing a deal for Trumbo, potentially sign Shin Soo Choo, and then another free agent SP. Crazy.

Is it even allowed in sports for someone to retire while being beloved by both Toronto and Philadelphia fans? Halladay broke the rules!

He should go into the Hall of Fame right away just for that.

Tigers sign Rajai Davis. 2-years, $10 mil.

D-Backs, Angels, and ChiSox work out a 3-team trade. With Mark Trumbo as the centerpiece.

D-Backs get Mark Trumbo, A.J. Schugel, and a PTBNL.

ChiSox get Adam Eaton

Angels get Hector Santiago and Tyler Skaggs.

Rockies got Brett Anderson which I'm very excited about

until his arm explodes

Who doesn't get excited for a 6.00+ era.

goddammit, I'm going to miss Adam Eaton.