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Corndad 04-22-2013 09:22 PM

I HAVE DIAGRAMS!!!

Heisenberg 04-22-2013 09:22 PM

DIAGRAMS!!

Arrogance 04-22-2013 09:22 PM

What about Justin Gabriel?

Cool King 04-22-2013 09:23 PM

For a second there, I thought Kane tripped over the camera.

ClockShot 04-22-2013 09:23 PM

SHIELD!

Hey guys.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:24 PM

I still wish that Jerry Lawler would become the new General Manager of RAW and go into full old-school promoter mode and get all serious as GM and start a real rivalry with Booker T as to who can put on the better show. King starts signing guys to exclusive RAW contracts, so Booker T does the same. Teddy Long defects to Jerry Lawler's RAW as his Assistant General Manager so Booker T takes on Brad Maddox.

One of the first things Jerry Lawler does is bring his best friend and, in his opinion, the best play-by-play commentator of all-time, Jim Ross. JR, Michael Cole and JBL then become the exclusive commentary team on RAW. If JR can't do RAW some weeks, then you just have Michael Cole and JBL do it those times, or you can have Paul Heyman occasionally join in at the booth. Or even have William Regal give it a go. Booker T keeps Josh Mathews on SmackDown and reinstates Matt Striker as the color analyst on SmackDown, a job Booker T took from Striker.

Corndad 04-22-2013 09:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The Undertaker doesn't have a cell phone because everything around him is...sigh...a dead zone <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23RAWTonight">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/326506393219760129">April 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Heisenberg 04-22-2013 09:25 PM

HEY YO

Providence Peep 04-22-2013 09:25 PM

Wouldn't it rock if the fourth member of The Shield is Iron Mike Sharpe?

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrogance (Post 4187496)
What about Justin Gabriel?

I would be totally OK with this, too. Gabriel's a good worker, but as a face he's so...light. Nothing about him screams dimension. The best thing Gabriel really ever did was look depraved as he would sit perched on the top rope before hitting a 450 Splash. It'd be a good follow-up to the Triple Powerbomb.

Barrett and Gabriel have been working together at house shows and stuff. They could have Gabriel win the IC Title from Barrett on SmackDown with help from Ambrose, Reigns & Rollins, with Gabriel becoming the first member of The Shield with championship gold.

Providence Peep 04-22-2013 09:29 PM

Am I right to assume that there will no longer be any roster drafts?

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:29 PM

With 3MB having problems with The Shield, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel could renew their rivalry!

Cool King 04-22-2013 09:30 PM

Fandango now has a T-Shirt.

http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaiw...rge/W05257.jpg

Is it bad that part of me wants to buy it?

ClockShot 04-22-2013 09:30 PM

The World's Strongest Show, yo.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providence Peep (Post 4187505)
Am I right to assume that there will no longer be any roster drafts?

There aren't. The brand split just sort of...stopped. It's a shame, because I really liked it. I think if the WWE brought up some of the more polished and ready guys from NXT, focused on things like tag team wrestling and mid-card feuds and perhaps had slightly longer matches -- they could make RAW a three-hour program with an exclusive roster. Especially if they brought back some of the more memorable mid-carders like MVP, John Morrison and Chris Masters. Yes, I just called Chris Masters "memorable."

Cool King 04-22-2013 09:31 PM

Looking into a "Meer".

Droford 04-22-2013 09:32 PM

Big E...Big E..at last..you're on your oowwwwwwwwwwwwwn

ClockShot 04-22-2013 09:32 PM

Biggy's music sucks.

Droford 04-22-2013 09:32 PM

I imagine thats what those rap lyrics say..cant understand em

Keith 04-22-2013 09:32 PM

Big E and Mark Henry need to become Tag Team Champs.

stultiloquy 04-22-2013 09:32 PM

Ashy Larry Langston

Cool King 04-22-2013 09:32 PM

What?

A black wrestler coming out to rap?

I would've never have seen that coming.

ClockShot 04-22-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 4187515)
Big E and Mark Henry need to become Tag Team Champs.

My idea is better.

Droford 04-22-2013 09:34 PM

Big Show and Big E Langston

totally Big
Team BIG

Arrogance 04-22-2013 09:34 PM

Bring back Marcus Cor Von, get it done.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:35 PM

Is Charlie Haas really retired? I'd love for him and Shelton Benjamin to return as a full-time tag team. The last time they tried they were together they still had dreams about pushing Shelton Benjamin as a singles star so they were just sort of "there." With JBL on commentary, I'm sure he could remind people what a killer threat these guys were as a tag team.

Would love to see them as part of a "Team Lesnar," with the irony being that they were originally brought into the WWE as an anti-Lesnar weapon.

ClockShot 04-22-2013 09:37 PM

Poor Ryder.

Really and truly feel bad for the guy.

Droford 04-22-2013 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrogance (Post 4187521)
Bring back Marcus Cor Von, get it done.

Dig up Ahmed Johnson and give him his WCW name

Big T and Big E

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:37 PM

When Dolph Ziggler and AJ Lee were making out last week, they zoomed in on Langston like he was jealous of Ziggler. I hope they don't turn him face and have him feud with Ziggler just yet.

Arrogance 04-22-2013 09:37 PM

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/5319/pounce3xr.gif

THAT'S WHAT HE DO

Corndad 04-22-2013 09:38 PM

This was the big change Ryder?

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:39 PM

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1ya2rHgDoRs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I actually really miss this guy. And Elijah Burke come to think of it.

Droford 04-22-2013 09:39 PM

The Big Ending?

Cool King 04-22-2013 09:39 PM

Langston has a bad theme and a bad finisher.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:39 PM

Marcus Cor Von never did return to wrestling did he? I'm surprised that the WWE have never given him like a random Royal Rumble appearance or something.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4187531)
The Big Ending?

I try not to have a dirty mind, but when I heard Langston explain the "E." means "End," I just couldn't help but go to dark places.

Droford 04-22-2013 09:40 PM

The Foley DVD is ok..the documentary was actually pretty good and was surprised Shane Douglas was in it
One minor complaint was they spent way too much time on the Commissioner Foley era.

Arrogance 04-22-2013 09:41 PM

I don't think so. Said he had some family problems or something, never saw him again.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:42 PM

What I wouldn't have given for Marcus Cor Von to show up on Main Event randomly last week and eliminated everyone from the Battle Royal and then actually beaten Wade Barrett for the Intercontinental Championship.

The Snake 04-22-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4187509)
There aren't. The brand split just sort of...stopped. It's a shame, because I really liked it. I think if the WWE brought up some of the more polished and ready guys from NXT, focused on things like tag team wrestling and mid-card feuds and perhaps had slightly longer matches -- they could make RAW a three-hour program with an exclusive roster. Especially if they brought back some of the more memorable mid-carders like MVP, John Morrison and Chris Masters. Yes, I just called Chris Masters "memorable."

I don't know, now that they've established some more main card guys I'm enjoying the non split rosters a lot. I get what you're saying with graduating the almost ready guys to the main card, and maybe doing a split program in waves will be the best compromise. I just felt like with the split shows I was watching 25 minutes of one show and maybe 10-15 of the other to see the few people who could carry the show. Now I'm pretty glued again for the duration of both shows (give or take a few matches)

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:44 PM

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sAEIPSz-mO8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Apparently Burke had a bit of an attitude problem, but this guy was so charismatic and pretty smooth in the ring.

For some reason this theme reminds me of The Brian Kendrick's.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Snake (Post 4187540)
I don't know, now that they've established some more main card guys I'm enjoying the non split rosters a lot. I get what you're saying with graduating the almost ready guys to the main card, and maybe doing a split program in waves will be the best compromise. I just felt like with the split shows I was watching 25 minutes of one show and maybe 10-15 of the other to see the few people who could carry the show. Now I'm pretty glued again for the duration of both shows (give or take a few matches)

It's just that some things don't really make sense with the brand split no longer being in effect. I mean why are there two World Champions now? Why do we need both an Intercontinental and United States Champion? I'm cool with both titles existing if there were some structure, but it seems like they treat the IC Title as more important, but then they always put the US Champion over the IC Champion when they do Champion vs. Champion Matches.

Arrogance 04-22-2013 09:46 PM

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/408...pounce9rz2.gif

Just because it happened.

Droford 04-22-2013 09:46 PM

Taker wrestling on RAW is weird

Heisenberg 04-22-2013 09:47 PM

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/ep_trend...T_HOMEPAGE.jpg

My master

Arrogance 04-22-2013 09:49 PM

Was that dude crying?

ClockShot 04-22-2013 09:49 PM

Sierra.........Hotel...........India...........Echo..........Lima..............Delta

Providence Peep 04-22-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrogance (Post 4187547)
Was that dude crying?

What dude?

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:49 PM

I wouldn't mind a "familiar face" tournament or something where they bring back like eight former guys that were never a World Champion in the WWE -- John Morrison, MVP, Carlito, Shelton Benjamin, The Brian Kendrick, Elijah Burke, Marcus Cor Von and Chris Masters for example -- just for that tournament. The winner of it gets a chance to challenge for the WWE Championship on PPV and have one last chance at glory. It's also a chance for these former Superstars to get noticed and possibly re-signed.

Some of them left the WWE because of attitude problems and such, but it's unlikely you'd give the tournament to one of those guys over someone who generally tugged along the company line.

Fuck it, open it up to 16 guys and have Ken Shamrock (who has said that he would love to return), David Hart Smith, Rob Conway, Eugene, Johnny from The Spirit Squad, Val Venis, Hardcore Holly and Scotty 2 Hotty.

Cool King 04-22-2013 09:51 PM

That shot with everyone pointing their phones at Undertaker just shows you how much times have changed since The Undertaker debuted.

What was once total darkness with some flashes from 35mm cameras, is now a sea of glowing screens.

ClockShot 04-22-2013 09:51 PM

Figured Kane and Bryan would get here late.

Corndad 04-22-2013 09:51 PM

I laugh so hard thinking back to people who said Bryan would never Get over. Every Yes! chant is a big F.U.

Providence Peep 04-22-2013 09:51 PM

Why did John Morrison leave? I'm surprised he hasn't gone to TNA.

Arrogance 04-22-2013 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providence Peep (Post 4187551)
What dude?

I missed the capture...just some "It's still real to me, damn it" guy in the audience looked like he was crying during Taker's entrance.

No idea why Morrison left actually.

Cool King 04-22-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corndad (Post 4187557)
I laugh so hard thinking back to people who said Bryan would never Get over. Every Yes! chant is a big F.U.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg...m02uo1_400.gif

Droford 04-22-2013 09:57 PM

Does Taker really need a "eww still gawt it" chant

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corndad (Post 4187557)
I laugh so hard thinking back to people who said Bryan would never Get over. Every Yes! chant is a big F.U.

Bryan is one of those guys who "gets it." The dude is just meant to be a professional wrestler. When he was outside the WWE, he could get bookings and attention as "The Best Wrestler in the World." He didn't need to promo hard or entertain kids (although he certainly did cut some promos and even work some comedy stuff). He knew that wouldn't cut it in the WWE and has done everything to become an endearing character. That he spent so long travelling and working all around the world just means that he can make everyone he works with look fucking amazing and makes him even more valuable to the company.

Just because you don't see something from someone doesn't mean they can't do it. Sometimes they choose not to because it doesn't make sense to do it at the time. Heath Slater is a pretty good example of that. People think he sucks in the ring and can't do much, but the dude is quite the high-flyer when he needs to be. It just doesn't suit his heel persona so he doesn't do it. When it comes to ring psychology, Slater is really fucking underrated. He's also like one of the top sellers in the company. These two things make him so valuable for certain tasks -- namely making other guys look good. Hopefully he gets thrown a bone here or there in his career. I mean, I guess he is a former Tag Team Champion and such.

Arrogance 04-22-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4187561)
Does Taker really need a "eww still gawt it" chant

Kind of backhanded...implies they think he's over the hill.

Droford 04-22-2013 10:01 PM

They should turn the tag belts into 6 man tag belts..i think 6 man tag matches would be slightly more interesting

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 10:01 PM

I thought Morrison left because he was just generally burnt out and not really too happy with his direction? I read somewhere they he planned to return in like "6 months" or something. That was a few months ago.

Morrison was interesting, because his ring style made him a great babyface, but his persona really didn't work as such. If they bring him back (and they should), then I think he would be best fit as a heel.

The Condor 04-22-2013 10:02 PM

Every man in this match is over BIG time. Kinda wish it was main event.

Droford 04-22-2013 10:04 PM

Rollins went to the same school where Dolph learned how to oversell minor bumps

ClockShot 04-22-2013 10:04 PM

Shield's holding their own in this.

Impressive. Hope creative don't fuck them up anytime soon. Tons of potential in that group of guys.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4187567)
They should turn the tag belts into 6 man tag belts..i think 6 man tag matches would be slightly more interesting

I don't know if we need a 6-Man Tag Team Championship, but again, I wouldn't mind some sort of 6-Man tournament. Call it the "Freebird Cup" or something.

Arrogance 04-22-2013 10:07 PM

Freebird Rule works.

el bobbo 04-22-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar (Post 4187570)
Every man in this match is over BIG time. Kinda wish it was main event.

Only John Cena gets to main event. He's going to get the shit booed out of him tonight too!

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 10:08 PM

Does Gertner still hate The Shield?

el bobbo 04-22-2013 10:08 PM

Fucking Rollins talking shit to The Undertaker!

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 10:08 PM

I'm really surprised this isn't the main event to be honest.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 10:09 PM

One thing I really love about the WWE going to England (other than the crowds), is that William Regal does something.

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 10:10 PM

In my fantasy world, Regal would beat Swagger on SmackDown and get added to the World Heavyweight Championship match at Extreme Rules. :love:

Heisenberg 04-22-2013 10:11 PM

Perfectly executed leg drop by TAKER!!!!

Cool King 04-22-2013 10:12 PM

Wait, Rollins is the legal man, but Taker just pinned Ambrose then right after that, Reigns pinned Undertaker. :wtf:

Mr. Nerfect 04-22-2013 10:12 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if they put Fandango in the World Title match at Extreme Rules actually. OK, I would be -- but he's so fucking over at the moment. Jericho vs. Fandango on SmackDown with the winner being added to the match.

ClockShot 04-22-2013 10:13 PM

OH SHIT!

ClockShot 04-22-2013 10:14 PM

That was a great match.

Arrogance 04-22-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4187591)
That was a great match.


Emperor Smeat 04-22-2013 10:15 PM

Great tag match.

:lol: at Taker going crazy when Rollins was trash talking him

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-22-2013 10:18 PM

Believe that. Believe in the Shield!

Droford 04-22-2013 10:19 PM

cant wait for the Geico promotess beastiallity complaints

Cool King 04-22-2013 10:20 PM

Big Ben is the bell, not the tower.

el bobbo 04-22-2013 10:21 PM

They're really shoving this Ryback heel turn down our throats.

el bobbo 04-22-2013 10:23 PM

I'd like to Fandango with her.
-JBL

ClockShot 04-22-2013 10:23 PM

That's not the usual dance partner.

Cool King 04-22-2013 10:23 PM

The fuck?

Blonde!?

Get outta here!

Corndad 04-22-2013 10:23 PM

New Fandango Chick

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-22-2013 10:23 PM

The first lady of NXT Summer Rae

Arrogance 04-22-2013 10:24 PM

To be fair, she is also really hot. Not as good of a dancer though.

Cool King 04-22-2013 10:26 PM

Though I have just thought that maybe the reason for blondie there is because they're in the UK.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-22-2013 10:27 PM

Yeah they just brought somebody under contract to dance with him. They have a different broad every time to dance with him anyways.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-22-2013 10:28 PM

So if Jon Jones beats Chael Sonnen, does that mean that Jon Jones has to change his name to Chael Sonnen?

Cool King 04-22-2013 10:29 PM

REGAL!

Corndad 04-22-2013 10:29 PM

REGAL!!

ClockShot 04-22-2013 10:29 PM

Whoa, Regal's gonna fight.

Country's gonna be torn apart in this one.

ClockShot 04-22-2013 10:29 PM

WHO DO YOU CHANT FOR?!

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-22-2013 10:29 PM

WILLIAM REGAL!!!!!!!!

Gone Mad 04-22-2013 10:29 PM

A RARE REGAL APPEARS!

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-22-2013 10:30 PM

Is KO going to try to extract revenge for his loss on NXT?

ClockShot 04-22-2013 10:31 PM

I expected that to go longer.

Cool King 04-22-2013 10:31 PM

For the North Americans here, Regal did Morecambe & Wise's "skip dance" at the start of the match.


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