Gotcha. I use to think KoTOR was the most immersive game I ever had played. That was until I played the Mass Effect series.

It was funny seeing the guys praise the streamlined options in ME2, as I imagine ME1 was closer to KoTOR in some respects. But I was the type of guy who spent an hour messing with items and buffs and stuff to get my cast just right for battles.

I played both KoToR games and never felt that the item management was all that daunting. In ME1 I felt that it was tedious. ME2 has a nice system.

Yeah I would say ME1 was similar to KoTOR in the way you used your powers/items, but it just wasn't as polished as KoTOR's system. I was happy with how they streamlined the whole thing in ME2, as it made the action play out more fluidly, whilst still allowing you to have your options.

You can't just pick up the game mid trilogy. You will lack any connection emotionally to old faces and stable characters.

That's a far statement.

Because you lack the abilty to connect emotionally, period. [/Kane Knight]

Probably that. I have few close friends. Mostly confidants.

I hate this thread just because I play PacMan, KoF '99, killed Baynetta twice anemometer SF1 before 2 (and all the choices I made carried over from 1 until 2, totally making that point relevant), not on CT leaderboards because I already have it on DC and PSP, yet I STILL know you should play the ME games in order because it is fucking epic.

It is the only game I could watch if it came out in movie form unchanged, bar Shenmue.

Change my mind, will not be playing the Mass Effect series.

Then you lose.

What a waste of effort on our part. Pathetic.

EPIC FAIL of a thread.....

Shwag!!!

BTW if you cannot convince a person to play ME1, then it the person probaly doesn't derserve to enjoy the game! There should be no convincing when it comes to ME. If you are any kind of gamer, it should be black and white. You play ME because it is one of the top 3 series of the last 10 years of gaming.

...Okay.

Any particular reason why?

Time could be better spent with games I currently enjoy and games I will enjoy in the future. Nothing against the series or anything.

Mass Effect isn't a game you would enjoy in the future?

How sad.

I was very careful in my wording as to not judge the game, but if that's how you read it I can't stop you.

Someone probably already said this but you can start with 2 and it would be fine.

I bet once you get into it you'll wanna go back and get 1. Guarendamntee it.

Mass Effect 3, bitches!
 

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This thread infuriates me. If Kalyx was one of my real life friends and this thread was identical to a discussion we were having with him in real life about Mass Effect, I would end it by punching him in the face, thereby ending both the argument and our friendship in one swift blow right to the eye and/or nose.

Ahahahaha

Laughing at your own posts is lame man.

If you've got a decent PC, always the PC version.

Mass Effect 2 on max looked better than the new engined PS3 version and ME3 is sure to be stunning.

It's not like there's an online component so you have to pick what friends are playing what version.

Just got Mass Effect 2 from buying DA2 :)

Just reread this whole thread. Gonna be joining Fig, Req and Baird on the whole "start from 1" dealio. You really can't afford to miss out on the First series. You make so many decisions in that game that carry over, nevermind just the main storyline big ending decision (which has galactic level ramifications in 2). Your decisions determine if people are alive or dead.

There are so many well written little moments in ME. Complements the overall good ass story so beautifully. The best part is that despite all these great (and actually well executed) concepts, the gameplay is fucking fantastic. It stands up well with shooters coming out now.

Agreed. I beat ME1 and have just started ME2. Love the carryover of the story.

Love this series, even more than the Half Life series.

Bought both games for the girlfriend and she flatly won't play them. Says that she doesn't like the way i described Ashley Williams as 'quite hot'.

I think it's a poor excuse while she plays Just Cause for the 80th time.

Bioware has recruited DICE to help work on Mass Effect 3 and as usual DICE is going to be involved in the shooting aspect of the game. They are also being used for help in environmental details and audio work as well.

It might not mean much but it could be a sign of the 3rd game being even more shooter oriented than Mass Effect 2.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/8...mass-effect-3/

First screens are out. They don't reveal much besides it looks nice as always and you'll be shooting it out with Cerberus at some point.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...screens55.aspx

EA and Bioware announce the game is now delayed from a late 2011 release date to now an early 2012 release or between January and March 2012.

Bioware is saying the delay is so that the team can have more time to finish and polish the game but most likely EA doesn't want it to be competing against Battlefield 3.

Bioware did release some new screens as a sort of an "apology" for the delay.

Update: Another reason for the delay could be due to EA wanting the game to be on a "handheld/mobile" device based on some information released by EA in their yearly financial report.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/8...hots-released/

Dammit. 2011 just got worse.

I'm a casual gamer so I figure L.A. Noire, Homefront, and Battlefields 1 & 2 should be enough to hold me over until the new Assassin's Creed is supposed to come out in November (finger's crossed). Then... hopefully that game will keep me preoccupied until Mass Effect 3.

Nearing the end of my 3rd play through on Mass Effect 1...
Insanity next

Mass Effect 3 will have the ability to have same-sex relationships for both the make and female version of Shepard.

People are already complaining this would ruin the canon of the story or their character's own story somehow. Of course the complaints are about the male Shepard having the ability to be gay and forgetting it was usually possible in the other games with the female Shepard.

Not sure if Mass Effect 1 had it available for both genders but I know Mass Effect 2 didn't allow it to be possible with the male version of Shepard.

http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAt...-Mass-Effect-3

It's always been hetero or lezzy. It doesn't really matter though. If you don't want him to be gay, just don't do the gay stuff. That's the beauty of these Bioware games.

You get the option to do gay stuff in Dragon Age too, but you don't have to.

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?

The rumored possibility of some sort of multiplayer for the game appears to be a reality with a few leaks and sources saying the game is set to have a 4 player co-op for a Horde type of game mode.

Another source mentioned that currently Bioware is currently working on an actual multiplayer part for the game but are leaning on making it either as a DLC type or stand-alone title instead of packaged with the rest of the game.

Currently Bioware has DICE helping them out on the shooting and physics aspect of the game but it would not be a surprise if DICE convinced Bioware to add online multiplayer or are helping them out with the potential multiplayer aspect of the game.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-mass-effect-3

I don't know how I feel about this, while I love horde game modes, Mass Effect doesn't need multiplayer.

According to the executive producer involved with the game's development, the PS3 will be getting a gimped version of the game in terms of content in comparison to the Xbox 360 and PC versions.

The Xbox 360 and PC versions were hinted to be having a special mode or feature involving game saves that stretched back to the first game in the series as a reward to the fans of the series. The PS3 will not be getting this treat due to never having ME 1 and the comic was only meant as a filler for the story and quick generator of stats for Mass Effect 2 on the PS3.

Also revealed is while the Xbox 360 version is getting Kinect controls for voice commands, no Move or headset voice controls will be done to the PS3 version.

http://gaming247.eu/2011/06/17/ps3-v...ay-be-lacking/

Good. M.E. started on the 360.

The complaints in DA2 were largely that the options were poorly worded and gave the wrong ideas or something. I guess the problem was "I could accidentally flirt with a guy without meaning to!"

...Which is probably their biggest fear in real life, too.

Anyway, the interviews I've seen in mags of late seem to shoot down MP, but since they're basically just making the game a shooter, it seems dumb to complain about adding shooter modes.

...We've already got a more linear game with less colour and exploration, why not just make it brown and throw in horde?

...Aaaaaand cue the whining that it's not a shooter in a retarded case of fanboy stockholm syndrome!

http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/gl...v/55/55655.jpg

Some new details from Gamescom with new mini-games, Cerberus Network will be a villian regardless of their status in a player's save file, and no chance of an SDK being released for modding or making games from the engine on PC.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/8...from-gamescom/

What's SDK?

Basically a kit so people can make mods for the PC game.

Stands for Software Development Kit. Welcome to the abbreviated world of programming. Sorry, I mean: welcome 2 abbrev wrld of prog.

Cerberus Network as a villian? Oooookay.

Thank god they're getting rid of the mining system.

They weren't exactly good guys in the second one.

The writing was on the wall that they would be bad in 2.

Just bought Mass Effect 2

IGN:



So is Sheppard gonna be dying?

It will probably depend on the choices you make during the game.

That's not meant to be as obnoxious or pretentious as it reads. I just really hope there isn't a canned ending for him.

Pretty sure the parents who care enough can monitor what kind of stuff their kids play and/or limit games to E-T if they don't want them playing inappropriate ("M" rated) content if they are under 17.

Granted, unfortunately most parents probably aren't responsible enough or knowledgable enough about how to enable/disable such settings (soooo easy...) and/or monitor what their kids play anyway, so it's probably a moot point. But I figured I might as well just throw that out there anyway.

If the ending to this series doesn't have multiple possibilities, I am sure people will be outraged.

There is probably going to be at least 3 different endings with Shep either dying in a blaze of glory like the ending of Halo Reach, saves everyone and goes out as a hero, or if you were bad/mean to everyone in the series you get the horrible/worst ending.

Nah, there will be some badass Renegade ending. Why would they punish you for being the most badass savior of the universe ever? He was never a bad guy if you went Renegade. He was just a prick.

Based on a few leaks, it appears multiplayer will be the "killer new feature" Bioware had boasted last week about the game and just like every other EA published game, it will also have the mandatory EA Online Pass setup.

http://www.screwattack.com/sites/def...Multiplyr2.jpg
http://www.screwattack.com/news/spot...ltiplayer-pass

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Multiplayer means less focus on polishing up the single player. The balancing could be a nightmare as well, with all the powers. It'd be better to do as a spinoff title.

I would never play ME for multiplayer. I play for the experience of it all. The story.

Properly confirmed

Although they do say co-op "missions" and that it's "not what you fear" so sounds like it will be totally separate to the main game.

http://www.destructoid.com/bioware-d...r-213447.phtml

The multiplayer affects the campaign somehow, but you don't miss any content by not playing it.

They also used their Montreal studio to beef up resource so nothing was compromised.

But if he's in a body bag, how am I gonna go and spill drinks on the Citadel with him?!

Beta got accidentally uploaded to Xbox Live Marketplace before getting quickly taken down but enough time passed for screen shots to be taken.

It appears some people noticed the conversation trees can be skipped or automated for responses instead of having to manually make a choice in the previous games.

Bioware confirmed there are now 3 modes for gameplay. They also confirmed the leak occurred on Microsoft's side of the servers.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/biow...ct-3-beta-leak
Beta Screens: http://kotaku.com/5856648/mass-effec...live/gallery/1

Apparently Bioware is having a lot of problems preventing parts of the story and other aspects of the game from being leaked and have gone as far as sending a cease and desist order to the Neogaf forums. Bioware's own Mass Effect 3 forums are having a similar problem with Bioware trying to delete or shut down topics involving the leaks.

Based on what some hackers found out, the story which was meant to finish the trilogy is in a huge mess.


It also appears the previously leaked 3 gameplay style modes are the main reason for the potential storyline mess.
http://www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect...ers/35-523220/
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/carefu...he-place/3792/

The Citadel plot which was cut or reduced in Mass Effect 2 will return in Mass Effect 3. There was some potential plans for a DLC pack to improve the Citadel's role in the game but eventually got nixed by Bioware or EA.

In terms of storyline importance, it will be similar to Mass Effect 1 where it played a huge role in the game.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...del-plot-line/

Bioware states Mass Effect 3 will be a lot harder than the first 2 games and sort of requires the co-op missions to be played in order to help the solo campaign.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/mass...will-be-harder

Sooooooo? What? Is that like code for leveling up is not enough or they're "turning the difficulty up to 11", or busting your ass ain't gonna be enough?

I'm kinda lost on this. :?:

Hope this co op shit has a lan/split screen option. Probably won't tho.

I assume it means the carry over from ME1 or ME2 won't be of any real benefit (ex. ME2 starts at Level 5 if you had a ME1 save) and to make the game "longer" with the new difficulty spike. Might be related to how Halo's Legendary got tougher for each new game in the series (Reach gives an achievement for surviving Legendary by yourself).

They basically hinted in order to actually beat ME3's Veteran difficulty, you need to play the co-op missions to unlock some special benefits for solo. Its also their way of pushing the multiplayer aspect in a series that used to be solo-only.


It won't because the "Horde" mode doesn't support split screen nor any local co-op from what was either revealed before or from the beta.

3 guns and 1 type of armor has been set aside as the pre-order bonuses for the game although they come in packs of either the armor with Valkrine rifle or the shotgun with Argus rifle.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...order-bonuses/


New screenshots were also released showing off a brand new enemy for the game.

http://www.egmnow.com/wp-content/upl...effect-3-2.jpg
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...screenshots-2/

So did you guys blow up the Reaper/Collectors at the end or did you let Cerberus have the base?

Felt like it was a bad fucking idea, frankly.

When I first beat Mass Effect 2, I was of the opinion that we need any advantage we can get against the reapers, so I kept it.

Now that it's turned out that Cerberus are full on bad guys, I'm just gonna destroy it.

You couldnt tell that from all the shady shit Cerberus was doing in ME1?

I didn't play ME1, but I noticed a lot of missions where I discovered fucked up shit that they had done as well as shit I found during the conversations I had with the crew.

I got the feeling that taking the Reaper tech was going to fuck us up in a variety of ways:
1. It'd allow Cerberus to take over the Galaxy and subjugate all aliens
2. It'd be an intentional trap just like the Collector IFF
3. It'd be the beginning of the end for humanity as the Reaper tech would transform us as a species

I wasn't even really pissed when Miranda died during my end mission. I sided with Jack during their argument because...fuck...how do you let that kind of shit slide?

I lost Miranda, Legion (even though he was loyal and straight-up perfect for the job in the ducts) and Zaeed or whatever his name was, I hated him anyways so it wasn't a big deal.

I just hope I get to have Grunt on my team next game. Though I've heard that he won't be in it.

Cerberus' number one concern has always been displayed as 'doing whatever it takes for humanity'.

I just wasn't expecting them to be full blown evil in the third.

That "doing whatever it takes for humanity" was just bullshit that they were feeding Sheppard.

any word on if the leveling system will be more like the origional? im ok with the armor/wepon options being gimped but the leveling in 2...ugh.

Guess I'm just dumb. Just went back and did some reading about all of it.


I remember reading that the stats were going to be more in depth. I also remember reading that the guns were going to be more customizable as well.

:y:

I'm actually replaying the game now so that I can have a game save where everyone survives and is loyal to me. I think that Miranda may back-stab me in ME3, but I think there's potential for her being a good ally.

Plus, I heard Grunt isn't going to be a squad member in ME3 and Legion died inexplicably (he was LOYAL!) during the suicide mission.

The trick with people dying is that everyone is given a 'hold the line' point value.

People like Grunt and Zaeed have more points than say Mordin or Legion. So basically, if you take Grunt and Zaeed in your squad with you, and have Garrus escorting all of your shipmates back to the Normandy, it leaves your line weak, opening up the possibility to have your team die.

Hopefully that makes sense.

My Hard Drive crashed and I lost my save files.

Any word on how this might load me into 3? Will they see I got the achievement for all living crew and import that into the newest game? I hope so, I dont want some generic shit. They should just have a template that you can answer questions for to set it up.

1) Kaiden or Ashley
2) Love Interest
3) Crew living.

Just Big things like that.

Sucks that My punching of the reporter in 2 games wont be imported.

Pretty sure it's going to need your save file, just like ME2 needed your ME1 save.

It's weird the first time I played the game Miranda was like "I quit" to the Elusive Man. She didn't do that the second time I played. Was it just because she wasn't there in the final crew in the mission?

Wrong. If you didn't have a save from ME1 when starting a new ME2 game, it just asked you to create a new Cmdr. Shepard, although I don't remember if they showed a cinematic bringing you up to speed on the story after that or not. Pretty sure they'll do the same for ME3.

You can buy thing on Mass Effect 2 which goes through all the major decision points that you had to do in Mass Effect 1. Sort of runs like a movie.

Sure they will have the same thing for finale.

I know that, but that's not what we were talking about, couch sleeper. Hanso wants it to read his achievements since his hard drive died, so he could have ME3 begin based off what he did in the previous game, not be brought up to speed because he didn't play the first one and started with ME2.

And by the way, Bioware has already said they aren't doing the comic back story thing this time.

I think the Genophage is going to be extremely important in the ME3. I just got back to that mission and played it differently, convinced Mordin to keep the work towards a cure. Krogan are going to be invaluable when facing the Reapers!

I redid the game and somehow lost Jack (couldn't get my paragon points up high enough to get her to be loyal. Thought having her with me would have saved her life.)

Here are the things I believe will effect our chances at defeating the reapers:

1. keeping the work towards curing the Krogan genophage
2. infecting the geth with the virus Legion re-wrote
3. Keeping the collector base for Cerberus

The more Krogan and Geth we have to fight the Reapers the better. The collector base seems to be more of an unknown. Will keeping it come back to bite us in the ass?

Would you work with the devil if it meant saving the galaxy?

I think weather or not you let the Rachni queen go in the first one is going to play a part in it as well.