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Volare 10-08-2015 09:00 PM

James Wyatt.

Emperor Smeat 10-08-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Observer
The Paige situation is interesting. She did that big promo on Raw and Smackdown, and instead of being the third person in the title match as was first planned, she’s not announced for the match and losing everywhere. There was an incident that came out on video where she used the F word to answer a fan question, and Scott Armstrong was there listening and made it clear that language was not about to be used. But the video got out anyway. However, we’ve been told she is not being punished for that and there are still plans with her stemming from the promo.

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Originally Posted by Observer
The promotions department has been told that Dwayne Johnson and the company are having serious talks about doing something before the end of the year. That’s why the WWE switched Johnson’s listing from alumni to current roster last week.

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Originally Posted by Observer
WWE officials are looking at putting more focus on NXT's Jason Jordan and Chad Gable.

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Regarding James Storm possibly being at NXT Takeover tonight, PWInsider confirmed he was indeed backstage. As noted, Storm has had talks with WWE officials about a player-coach type of role in NXT.
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Originally Posted by Observer
WWE Live from Madison Square Garden: The show was legitimately sold out. They announced 19,224, which is clearly a fake number. The WWE internal numbers listed capacity with the set up at 12,709, but they ended up using a much smaller stage than would be normally used for a big show. It looked closer to 16,000, and WWE’s usual exaggeration for arena numbers is 3,000, and may end up being the biggest pro wrestling crowd in North American crowd this year outside of WrestleMania.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Below are updated TNA attendance figures:

* October 2nd in Beckley, West Virginia drew around 250 people
* October 3rd in Salem, Virginia drew 450 fans
* October 4th in Charlotte for Bound For Glory drew 1,800 fans but was heavily papered

- Regarding the October 3rd TNA live event in Salem, Virginia, Trevor Lee turned down that show to work a CWF indie event in Gibsonville, North Carolina. This is where Lee got his start and apparently the reason he turned down the TNA show was because he figured he would have more fun at CWF. The Salem event featured Kurt Angle's return to the ring and Earl Hebner's TNA Hall of Fame induction.

- Regarding the upcoming TNA tour of India where they will be taping Impact Wrestling, Sony SIX is financing the tour as part of a deal to push Mahabali Shera.

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Originally Posted by Observer
The other was the Bound for Glory secret third announcer. This was mostly Pope’s doing, saying there would be a secret third announcer on the show who had never done a broadcast before. There ended up not being a third announcer. The payoff is supposed to be that it was a Pope action figure that he brought to the desk.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Regarding Cesaro, they appear to have broken his fan base. While “Cesaro section” signs were in Boston, there were very few of them. He still gets good reactions, but it’s definitely way down from a month ago.

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Originally Posted by Observer
For Superstars, Cesaro pinned Rose with a 36 rep giant swing and the sharpshooter. Rose came out and said that this must be the lowest point of Cesaro’s career, because he’s wrestling Adam Rose on Superstars. Unreal he actually said that. Prime Time Players beat The Ascension when O’Neil got the pin.

For anyone doubting the status of Ceasro in the WWE right now.

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Mark Henry recently spoke to Philly.com about his near 20 years with the WWE and gave an indication that his retirement in coming up, and plans to call it a career shortly after next year’s WrestleMania:

I don’t know how I let Vince convince me into signing another contract back in 2013. He did a bit of magic. He’s got that magic where you just go in the office and he’ll talk you into it. I won’t be signing any more contracts. I’m an elder statesman. This is a young guy business and I’m 100 percent for it. I love the marketing process. I love the international marketing. I love the talent development, but those are all things I’ll work with the company on to make sure that our business continues to thrive, but there’s a bunch of other stuff that I plan on doing.
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Originally Posted by Observer
AAA Heroes Inmortales: The show was broadcast on iPPV and had minimal problems live, but several attempts to watch it on delay had plenty of issues with the stream dying. To show the difference in how badly that first show hurt, just from our own standpoint, we got 100 responses to TripleMania which was helped by airing on regular PPV. We received 50 responses to the CMLL Anniversary show on iPPV (which, scary enough, is more than TNA’s biggest show of the year on regular PPV), but we only got eight responses to this (all thumbs up), even with a feud built off American TV as the main event. Granted, iPPV is a tougher sell, but that really shows how much damage was done by the first show among the most hardcore fan base.

AAA still struggling with ippv issues that plagued TripleMania and a big reason why they cut back on the amount of ppvs the US will get.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Jeff Jarrett has expressed interest in promoting Wrestle Kingdom this year but there is no deal in place and the slowdown in talks is more on the New Japan side. The slowdown may be due to wanting to work with ROH and do more events as there has been at least some interest from the ROH side in promoting New Japan PPV events. All things being equal, the advantage of the Jarrett side is that they did an incredible job with social media in promoting the show and made it a success, beating all reasonable expectations. The ROH side has the advantage of having the television vehicle to promote the show.


Some other sheet news includes:
  • According to Triple H from the recent NXT conference call, WWE is looking at purchasing or making deals to get more wrestling libraries added to the current bunch on the WWE Network. Mostly looking at Japan and Mexico for the next batch of libraries.
  • NJPW announced Kevin Kelly and Matt Striker will be the English announcers for the upcoming King of Pro Wrestling show. The idea is to see if they can boost the number of NJPWWorld subs with this show while ROH has no ties for this show and just let Kelly do this on his own free time.
  • Undertaker hinted to the WWE that he is open to working more dates than usual leading up to Mania 32. Main reason is due to him being a lot healthier than in recent years. Will be on the Mexico tour but currently expected to skip the European tour.
  • Season 2 of Lucha Underground is currently expected to start taping on November 14th and air on January 2016.
  • WWE.com's newest "Where Are They Now" article was about "The Juice" Juventud Guerrera http://www.wwe.com/classics/whereare...rrera-27992107
  • This week's episode of TPWW TLP podcast was released recently: http://tablesladderspodcast.podbean....st-124-071015/

Dark One 10-08-2015 10:35 PM

NXT Spoiler Picture.

SPOILER: show

MYTH CONFIRMED.

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Ultra Mantis 10-08-2015 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Volare (Post 4713925)
James Wyatt.

Jaden Walker

Lock Jaw 10-09-2015 01:25 AM

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Lock Jaw 10-09-2015 01:27 AM

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Damian Rey 10-09-2015 01:33 AM

Please, Triple H. Take over WWE. My body is ready.

GD 10-09-2015 02:34 AM

I admire how Hunter has won over the internet wrestling community. Personally, I would like to see him take over a larger entity, like Smackdown.

Rammsteinmad 10-09-2015 05:10 AM

How long will this divas revolution last? The divas on NXT have been great, but headlining PPV's whilst this whole revolution thing goes on, it just seems so forced.

XL 10-09-2015 07:45 AM

I wouldn't say it seems forced. If anything it shows how badly they've handled the Divas Revolution. You've got the crowd chanting "Womens Wrestling" and "This Is Wrestling" for a very good match, whilst we're still doing the 3-on-3 "I started the revolution"/"no, I started the revolution" annoyance on the main show.

That match at Takeover didn't feel forced at all, given the history and what it meant to each of the girls, and of course the fact that the NXT Championship wasn't on the line.

Mercenary 10-09-2015 08:57 AM

At this rate I would say the NXT womens championship is better then the Mens.

Sixx 10-09-2015 09:14 AM

Is the NXT Divas championship belt also a butterfly?

Innovator 10-09-2015 09:22 AM

Nope, NXT Women's Championship looks like a title

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Sixx 10-09-2015 09:24 AM

Wasted opportunity.

It could have been a cute dolphin. Or a pony.

Rammsteinmad 10-09-2015 10:12 AM

lol.

I wish it didn't have the "WWE" on it, though. Would just further distinguish NXT as another entity. Just nitpicking.

Innovator 10-09-2015 10:57 AM

Digging Adam Cole's PWG gimmmick

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Innovator 10-09-2015 10:57 AM

Dude just wants a blowjob

XL 10-09-2015 12:40 PM

I'm already bored of James Storm in NXT (before it's even happened). Give me Bobby Roode! (So I can be bored of that too!)

parkmania 10-09-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4714052)
I admire how Hunter has won over the internet wrestling community. Personally, I would like to see him take over a larger entity, like Smackdown.

C'mon Dave. It was true in 2005, and it's still true today:


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Tom Guycott 10-09-2015 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 4712928)
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Edge as a DC character Atom Smasher on The Flash. Honestly this looks fucking silly. Posing like fucking Triple H and shit.

Looks less like HHH and more like he saw a similarity to Shockmaster and rolled with it.

Tom Guycott 10-09-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4714038)

Dolph's new shirt reminds me of the old Matt Hardy v1 shirt. And if it really is a take-off of it, it wouldn't surprise me, since Ziggles does rock quite a bit of throwback inspired designs.

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4714052)
I admire how Hunter has won over the internet wrestling community. Personally, I would like to see him take over a larger entity, like Smackdown.

I said once that Hunter, in spite of being "mediocre" (read: not nearly as good as WWE makes him out to be) seems like he'd be a decent coach. Kinda like a player who spent a majority of his collegic and pro football career as a backup or 3rd string QB and goes on to become a very successful coach. I just didn't think he would get a team to coach, so to speak, until the full entity of WWE was up for grabs. Being able to handle the big picture down at Full Sail shows how knowledgeable he is.

People somehow mistake "having an sharp and cunning grasp on the business inside and out" and "being the best to ever grace a ring" as being the same thing; that you can't say somebody is one without being the other. I disagree, and feel Hunter is the former, not the latter.

Also, I would think that his "winning over the IWC" might have a bit to do with him no longer domineering 40+ minutes of a two hour show every week. Took a long time for that scar to heal. If he insinuated himself in front of the camera every week on NXT, in spite of handling the product well, there would be a bit of "HHH being HHH" backlash.

Tom Guycott 10-09-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4714147)
I'm already bored of James Storm in NXT (before it's even happened). Give me Bobby Roode! (So I can be bored of that too!)

Bobby Roode will undoubtedly fall into the name generator.

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2015 03:42 PM

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According to Pro Wrestling Sheet, WWE informed a couple of Performance Center based talents of their release earlier today.

Devin Taylor, who has been a staple of NXT since its days as a Hulu-exclusive show, is the name that most will recognize. Initially criticized for her wooden delivery, Taylor was showing some signs of progress...especially as a foil for Dana Brooke. She wrestled occasionally on house shows, as well, but looks to have been moved out of a crowded announcer scene with the rise of Kyle Edwards and Dasha Fuentes.

The other name mentioned in the report is Cal Bishop. The wrestler had been with WWE for a couple of years, and worked as tag team enhancement talent on a couple of episodes of NXT.

Both were present at last night's NXT taping, although its not clear that either were used and unlikely that they'd be featured in any prominent way.

Best wishes to both Taylor and Bishop on whatever comes next, and we'll have any updates on their situations or releases in general for you here at Cage
Dana Brooke won the War of the Head Tapping in the end. Shame Taylor never had her chance to snap and become a badass submission machine :shifty:

Sixx 10-09-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4714176)
Bobby Roode will undoubtedly fall into the name generator.

Rude Robert.

Jura 10-09-2015 04:21 PM

Ravaging Rob Roode

Evil Vito 10-09-2015 04:52 PM

<font color=goldenrod>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not Devin Taylor</font> :'(

The Destroyer 10-09-2015 04:56 PM

Never really liked her that much.

Simple Fan 10-09-2015 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4714147)
I'm already bored of James Storm in NXT (before it's even happened). Give me Bobby Roode! (So I can be bored of that too!)

Beer.........Money!

XL 10-09-2015 06:41 PM

Never even thought of that! They'd be a pretty good staple in the NXT tag division.

Jari 10-09-2015 07:41 PM

Interestingly on the website, WWE referred to James Storm as (I might be paraphrasing) "an 18 year veteran and a former World Heavyweight Champion"

TNA exists...sort of...for now.

Damian Rey 10-09-2015 07:48 PM

I have a fairly serious man crush on Roode. WWE could benefit from using ex TNA guys who get the get the sports entertainment shtick already.

Jari 10-09-2015 07:50 PM

I'm holding out that bit more hope for AJ and Austin Aries

DaveWadding 10-09-2015 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4714208)
<font color=goldenrod>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not Devin Taylor</font> :'(

Thank God for Instagram.

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by prowrestlingsheet.com
Former TNA Wrestling star James Storm has yet to sign a deal with NXT — despite wrestling at their show Thursday — and Pro Wrestling Sheet has learned his former employer wants to lock him down before it can happen ...

Our sources tell us WWE officials want Storm to sign a deal similar to Samoa Joe’s initial contract … but no agreement for further work was signed before, or after, his debut NXT match. Company officials did however indicate that he’d be wanted at the next set of tapings.

TNA execs reached out to Storm Thursday morning after reports surfaced saying he was at TakeOver … and we’re told they offered the wrestler EVEN MORE money to re-sign — but right now, the Cowboy is just weighing out his options.

According to r/SquaredCircle, prowrestlingsheet.com is run by a former TMZ reporter with some connections in wrestling (WWE and PWG). Even the Observer has referenced them as a source for a few of their recent sheet reports.

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Originally Posted by WrestlingDVDNetwork
WrestlingDVDNetwork.com can exclusively reveal that WWE has a Scott Hall DVD tentatively scheduled for 2016, joining other biography releases next year including Eric Bischoff.

As of now it’s planned to be a full, 3 disc DVD and 2 disc Blu-ray set and feature a documentary on Scott Hall, who last year was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame as Razor Ramon.

Production on the set has already started with April 2016 currently planned as its release date.

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Originally Posted by Observer
TNA wrestlers were just informed today that the late October house show tour has been canceled. Those were shows on 10/29 in Thiobodaux, 10/30 in New Orleans, 10/31 in Baton Rouge and 11/1 in Biloxi, MS. The New Orleans show was billed as "The Battle of New Orleans" and was to be a PPV taping.

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Originally Posted by Observer
For a clarification, Matt Riddle did an interview saying that WWE sent him to Evolve, which isn't exactly the case but not untrue either. WWE did recommend to Evolve to use him as noted in Observer stories in the past, but sent is too strong in the sense Evolve made the decision to use him on their own because they think he has potential. While the nice comments HHH made about Gabe Sapolsky clearly indicate they are on really good terms and WWE is probably looking at some form of a deal, right now the deal would still be in the talking stages.

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Originally Posted by Observer
There will also be a new Table for 3 show on Tuesday at 4 p.m. with Sting, DDP and Vader, followed by a WWE Rivalries show on the Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat feud.

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Originally Posted by Observer
The company did a 12-woman tryout camp this past week. This was mostly women who had never done pro wrestling before, including those who had sent in audition tapes to Tough Enough, made the final day but were cut before the first episode. The most notable tryout was Liz Gorman, 28, who was a Lingerie Football League all-star in 2010 and 2011. Summer Rae was a star in that league, and actually their most heavily marketed player, before she was signed by WWE.


Bad News Gertner 10-09-2015 09:51 PM

Chris Jericho's podcast about his 25th anniversary with Jackyl, Lance Storm and Dr. Luther might be the best wrestling podcast I've ever heard. Holy fuck was it ever funny.

Lock Jaw 10-09-2015 10:16 PM

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Poit 10-09-2015 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari (Post 4714281)
Interestingly on the website, WWE referred to James Storm as (I might be paraphrasing) "an 18 year veteran and a former World Heavyweight Champion"

TNA exists...sort of...for now.

WWE also included the Dudleys' tag title reigns in TNA, when JBL said they were 22-time (I think) champions.

Lock Jaw 10-09-2015 10:35 PM

Wonder if Emma is a nerd or not....

GD 10-10-2015 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Poit (Post 4714340)
WWE also included the Dudleys' tag title reigns in TNA, when JBL said they were 22-time (I think) champions.

You're right.

Tom Guycott 10-10-2015 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jari (Post 4714281)
Interestingly on the website, WWE referred to James Storm as (I might be paraphrasing) "an 18 year veteran and a former World Heavyweight Champion"

TNA exists...sort of...for now.

So, does this mean they call back the legendary BRAYDEN WALKER to reform <s>America's Most Wanted </s> [generated team name here]?!?

DAMN iNATOR 10-10-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4714425)
So, does this mean they call back the legendary BRAYDEN WALKER to reform <s>America's Most Wanted </s> [generated team name here]?!?

There were a couple of other decent tag teams in TNA during their earlier years, too.."L.A.X." and the one which I think was a jab at Vince, the Voodoo Kin Mafia ("V.K.M."). And that's from someone who knows next to nothing about their product.

Sixx 10-10-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4714434)
There were a couple of other decent tag teams in TNA during their earlier years, too.."L.A.X." and the one which I think was a jab at Vince, the Voodoo Kin Mafia ("V.K.M."). And that's from someone who knows next to nothing about their product.

Wow, you think like wikipedia!

Jari 10-10-2015 10:16 AM

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Jari 10-10-2015 10:18 AM

Imagine the pop if they can't get the Rock to appear at Wrestlemania, Ronda brings someone else to be her partner against HHH and Stephanie

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Mercenary 10-10-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari (Post 4714451)
Imagine the pop if they can't get the Rock to appear at Wrestlemania, Ronda brings someone else to be her partner against HHH and Stephanie

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Yeah Ronda wont be at Mania. She is filming a movie during that time

DaveWadding 10-10-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari (Post 4714451)
Imagine the pop if they can't get the Rock to appear at Wrestlemania, Ronda brings someone else to be her partner against HHH and Stephanie

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Colt Cabana?

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2015 04:11 PM

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Emperor Smeat 10-10-2015 06:12 PM

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:lol: at the Mean Gene outtakes stuff.

Mr. Nerfect 10-10-2015 07:18 PM

Austin Aries has a place in the stupid tournament TNA is doing. Good for him, but I'd rather see him in NXT. Really want AJ Styles and The Bullet Club in NXT.

Innovator 10-10-2015 09:07 PM

Aries, the guy who lost a retirement match in TNA, is back

erickman 10-10-2015 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4714524)
Austin Aries has a place in the stupid tournament TNA is doing. Good for him, but I'd rather see him in NXT. Really want AJ Styles and The Bullet Club in NXT.

I would love for the bullet club to invade the wwe, but would vince go for it since he did not create it. that's why I do not see aj going to wwe he makes more money in japan and the bullet club shirts they must be making a killing selling them.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2015 09:29 PM

WWE's Eva Marie wrestling experiment might be ending soon.

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Quote from Bryan Alvarez "Bryan Alvarez noted on Wrestling Observer Live this morning that WWE officials are currently working on non-wrestling ideas for Eva Marie. No word on how this might affect the planned push into the NXT Womens Title picture originally planned for Marie."

Wishbone 10-10-2015 10:19 PM

Oh my god please let that be true. Please, for the love of all that is holy let that be true.

Fignuts 10-10-2015 10:39 PM

Thank fucking god

Jura 10-10-2015 10:53 PM

It would be better if they kept at it and then when she has a ton of heat on her and the boos are deafening have her wrestle flawlessly and watch jaws start dropping. That is if the latter part is achievable.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-11-2015 12:45 AM

I knew after Wednesday that Eva Marie was done. Nothing would be a bigger slap to the face of the real wrestlers in NXT than having her try to "sport entertain" at Full Sail.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-11-2015 01:10 AM

Devin Taylor has been released. Dana Brooke is probably inconsolable.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-11-2015 01:18 AM

Knew she was fired once Asuka bopped Brooke.

Damian Rey 10-11-2015 01:57 AM

They all sport entertain for one. For two, if the women's match on any particular night was the writing on the wall it'd have months ago with the Brooklyn show or even before.

There's nothing inherently wrong with investing time and money into developing Eva Marie. They're just so dead set on hot shotting everything that they rushed her to NXT without giving her proper time to get a feel for what she's doing. If she just wrestled dark matches for a year straight with zero tv exposure and trained with zero pressure to perform I'm sure she'd be at least passable.

She wasn't even as terrible as some of the hyperbole makes her out to be. Other than some timing botches recently, her matches weren't unwatchable. She's not the most athletic woman ever but she's not a train wreck either.

ron the dial 10-11-2015 02:33 AM

oh yes she is. her matches were painful to watch, and i was even willing to give her a shot. my mistake.

Damian Rey 10-11-2015 02:37 AM

You're just being dramatic. She bumped just fine. The moves she used, outside of sliced bread part 2, looked passable. She wasn't good or even decent but she wasn't some abomination she's made out to be.

Wishbone 10-11-2015 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4714667)
They all sport entertain for one. For two, if the women's match on any particular night was the writing on the wall it'd have months ago with the Brooklyn show or even before.

There's nothing inherently wrong with investing time and money into developing Eva Marie. They're just so dead set on hot shotting everything that they rushed her to NXT without giving her proper time to get a feel for what she's doing. If she just wrestled dark matches for a year straight with zero tv exposure and trained with zero pressure to perform I'm sure she'd be at least passable.

She wasn't even as terrible as some of the hyperbole makes her out to be. Other than some timing botches recently, her matches weren't unwatchable. She's not the most athletic woman ever but she's not a train wreck either.

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit, bro. First off she's hurt two people now because of her ineptitude in the ring. That's one more than Ken Kennedy got before he was let go, and he had far more potential than she ever has.

Two, have you actually watched her recent matches? It's like watching some kid who just got done with his first few months of wrestling school having a match in front of a national crowd. Come on, man, you can't honestly believe that that shit was watchable. It was the very definition of piss break even at its best.

Three, how the hell is it ok for them to waste money on her exactly? What does she bring to the table that makes her worth investing this much time and effort into? She isn't some super talented talker with loads of charisma. Her looks are a dime a dozen in this industry that already shelled out tons of Sables, Maryses, Tori Wilsons, etc. Plus she's 31 years old so she's no spring chicken. Even if you give her the time to develop off screen by the time she does (if she does) she'd be in her mid 30's. For a Diva that's ancient, man. Her career wouldn't even last long enough to be worth investing in.

I mean come on, dude. With a guy like Roman Reigns at least there's some sort of reasoning behind this sort of thing, but with Eva there is literally no logical reason to go to this much trouble with her. If it's all for her looks that's just stupid because quite frankly there are a million other failed models WWE could swoop up just as easily, and who would likely be more adept physically in the long run.

ron the dial 10-11-2015 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4714672)
You're just being dramatic. She bumped just fine. The moves she used, outside of sliced bread part 2, looked passable. She wasn't good or even decent but she wasn't some abomination she's made out to be.

i'm not. she moves really awkwardly. like she has no athletic bone in her body. she looks leagues below most of the women on the main roster or nxt. nowhere near ready to be presented on television in a wrestling capacity.

Damian Rey 10-11-2015 03:09 AM

I guess Mark Henry should've been shit canned years ago, as should Ryback, since they've injured countless guys. It's pro wrestling. People get hurt. Part of that is her fault. Most of it is the fault of those who are putting her in the ring without enough training.

Her matches aren't these terrible shit fests either. They're piss breaks alright. But saying they're "not watchable" is being dramatic. Other than her being green as shit, only a few months into accrual serious training, they're not awful. They're just not good. That's also not her fault.

Why do you care if they invest or waste money into training her trying to see if there's anything there? It's not your money and Vince and co have surely blown far larger sums of money on far less fruitful investments. It's not like she's making millions. Maybe she works out as a mediocre worker who garners heat. Maybe she just ends up as a valet. Or gets released never to be seen again. Nonetheless, giving it a go and seeing what's there doesn't hurt anything or anyone. Remember Maria? Didn't do jack shit of note in WWE other than posing for playboy. She's now I ROH as a valet who people have praised and acknowledge to being greatly improved. Maybe Eva Marie gets to that point. Maybe not. None of us are in a position to say it's not worth the investment. What exactly would they be investing that's so valuable it should be allocated elsewhere?

I don't see what her age has to do with anything. She doesn't look old. Doesn't sound old. If she's 35 with minimal wear and tear on her body and she still looks good who cares what her age is.

What trouble are they going through exactly? It's not like she's eating up primetime tv time every week with entire storylines and programming dedicated to her. She's put in short matches that make her look better than she is on a show that's internet exclusive.

I don't see why anyone gets so worked up about it. If she gets dumped everyone can rejoice and move on. If she improves enough to be more than passable in the ring than great, that works too. Pretending she's the worst wrestler in the history of man at this point just seems like people being over dramatic

Damian Rey 10-11-2015 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 4714675)
i'm not. she moves really awkwardly. like she has no athletic bone in her body. she looks leagues below most of the women on the main roster or nxt. nowhere near ready to be presented on television in a wrestling capacity.

I agree she's not ready, which isn't her fault. She's not the caliber of the NXT women, which also isn't her fault. She's clearly still learning and should probably keep working off screen, but that's also out of her control. That doesn't mean she's the worst wrestler known to man.

ron the dial 10-11-2015 03:20 AM

did i say that she was? nor did i say she was an "abomination." i just don't see the point in wasting time on her when you can get what little she has to offer, and more, from other women.

GD 10-11-2015 03:24 AM

Hey guys, is it weird that I don't find Sasha Banks "sexually attractive" but am attracted to her as a performer?

Damian Rey 10-11-2015 03:25 AM

Not calling you out specifically. Just the consensus in general. I don't see the harm honestly. Nor do I see why there's such an outcry about her getting a shot.

ron the dial 10-11-2015 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4714682)
Hey guys, is it weird that I don't find Sasha Banks "sexually attractive" but am attracted to her as a performer?

your general attitude toward women in a sexual regard is weird.

Damian Rey 10-11-2015 03:39 AM

I guess finding someone attractive for something other than physical attributes can't be too uncommon.

GD 10-11-2015 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 4714687)
your general attitude toward women in a sexual regard is weird.

Dear ron the dial, are you generalizing me based on my ethnic background?

GD 10-11-2015 03:50 AM

lol

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Frank Drebin 10-11-2015 03:51 AM

They need to find a Hindu Diva for Guru Dave.

ron the dial 10-11-2015 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4714690)
Dear ron the dial, are you generalizing me based on my ethnic background?

yes. but also on all of your posts.

GD 10-11-2015 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 4714693)
yes. but also on all of your posts.

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GD 10-11-2015 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 4714692)
They need to find a Hindu Diva for Guru Dave.

Looks like all the white folks are giving a rest to their PC agenda.

GD 10-11-2015 04:03 AM

Dear ron the dial, I would be devastated if you though of me as a horny foreigner who is ogling and objectifying women on the streets. I'm the furthest thing from that guy.

Wishbone 10-11-2015 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4714679)
I guess Mark Henry should've been shit canned years ago, as should Ryback, since they've injured countless guys. It's pro wrestling. People get hurt. Part of that is her fault. Most of it is the fault of those who are putting her in the ring without enough training.

Her matches aren't these terrible shit fests either. They're piss breaks alright. But saying they're "not watchable" is being dramatic. Other than her being green as shit, only a few months into accrual serious training, they're not awful. They're just not good. That's also not her fault.

Why do you care if they invest or waste money into training her trying to see if there's anything there? It's not your money and Vince and co have surely blown far larger sums of money on far less fruitful investments. It's not like she's making millions. Maybe she works out as a mediocre worker who garners heat. Maybe she just ends up as a valet. Or gets released never to be seen again. Nonetheless, giving it a go and seeing what's there doesn't hurt anything or anyone. Remember Maria? Didn't do jack shit of note in WWE other than posing for playboy. She's now I ROH as a valet who people have praised and acknowledge to being greatly improved. Maybe Eva Marie gets to that point. Maybe not. None of us are in a position to say it's not worth the investment. What exactly would they be investing that's so valuable it should be allocated elsewhere?

I don't see what her age has to do with anything. She doesn't look old. Doesn't sound old. If she's 35 with minimal wear and tear on her body and she still looks good who cares what her age is.

What trouble are they going through exactly? It's not like she's eating up primetime tv time every week with entire storylines and programming dedicated to her. She's put in short matches that make her look better than she is on a show that's internet exclusive.

I don't see why anyone gets so worked up about it. If she gets dumped everyone can rejoice and move on. If she improves enough to be more than passable in the ring than great, that works too. Pretending she's the worst wrestler in the history of man at this point just seems like people being over dramatic

Dude, these weren't just accidents. They were flat out 100% avoidable incidents that happened because she isn't coordinated at all. Doesn't matter who's "fault" it is, the fact of the matter is she has no business in an actual match with another person at this point in time. She should still be training on the very basics with how little she seems to be capable of. And on the topic of other wrestlers being let go for hurting people, no, they shouldn't have been. Ken Kennedy shouldn't have been let go either. The point is though that many people HAVE been let go for that reason, so why is Eva Marie so special that she gets away with it? Hell, even those guys you mentioned who weren't let go for it still ended up often times getting depushed for shit like that. Eva did it and got a free ride into personal training sessions and a major push in NXT. So I'll ask again, what makes her so special? Why is she so important that the WWE should do something they've really never done before for?

No one is saying she's the worst wrestler ever. However, she is one of the worst wrestlers ever to be put in such an amazing position, and given so many shots. It doesn't make any sense for WWE to be wasting that money. Sure, it doesn't really matter cause it's not my money, but why the hell are they doing it? You can't tell me that if you saw someone put hundreds of thousands of dollars into supping up a Pontiak Aztek you wouldn't scratch your head and wonder why. Especially when that person supping up said Aztek has some Lamborghinis, Ferraris, etc all sitting in their garage going unused. That is exactly what WWE is doing here.

Layla couldn't last past 38. Trish was gone even younger. Lita too. Divas don't get to go forever in the wrestling industry. To make it past 35 is a miracle for them. It's not right, but it's how the biz works. Women don't get the long careers men do, and Eva is already on the tail end of hers. So, yes, it DOES matter.

There just isn't any logical reason to be putting money into her. Watching WWE do that is just head scratchingly ignorant to the point that it isn't even funny. Just imagine if they put even half this effort and time into building up someone with actual promise, or promoting someone who's already at that level. That is where that money could and should be going.

Frank Drebin 10-11-2015 04:04 AM

Eva Marie should not have been on TV in any capacity at this point. Ron is right in that regard. Despite being big into working out, she really isn't athletic at all. No agility or anything. I see it too. Almost like a puppy to small for its own paws. That being said, if top brass wants to give her a chance they are absolutely allowed to do so. She was rushed for some reason which isn't her fault. The real shame is that people had to get hurt for them to apparently pull the plug on her.

Look, I get that she makes Kelly Kelly look like Bret Hart in the ring, and that maybe that's all she could ever have become even with years of the best training money can buy, a hyperbolic time chamber and Goku. I get it. She did get people to hate her even if it was "on accident" which is a start.

Also, her age has nothing to do with anything. If she's over the hill at 32 or whatever then so is half the roster.

GD 10-11-2015 04:07 AM

She would make an excellent valet. Any wrestler associated with her will get a lot of heat.

Wishbone 10-11-2015 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4714682)
Hey guys, is it weird that I don't find Sasha Banks "sexually attractive" but am attracted to her as a performer?

Truthfully I don't find her all that appealing either. I mean she's got a great body, but her face is just kinda... odd. And a pretty face is sorta a big deal to me. Of course everything I've seen of her makes her seem like an awesome person so it all kinda evens out. :p

Frank Drebin 10-11-2015 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4714700)
She would make an excellent valet. Any wrestler associated with her will get a lot of heat.

Boom. There ya go.

GD 10-11-2015 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4714701)
Truthfully I don't find her all that appealing either. I mean she's got a great body, but her face is just kinda... odd. And a pretty face is sorta a big deal to me. Of course everything I've seen of her makes her seem like an awesome person so it all kinda evens out. :p

Well, she does seem like a cool person to hang with.

Wishbone 10-11-2015 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 4714699)
Eva Marie should not have been on TV in any capacity at this point. Ron is right in that regard. Despite being big into working out, she really isn't athletic at all. No agility or anything. I see it too. Almost like a puppy to small for its own paws. That being said, if top brass wants to give her a chance they are absolutely allowed to do so. She was rushed for some reason which isn't her fault. The real shame is that people had to get hurt for them to apparently pull the plug on her.

Look, I get that she makes Kelly Kelly look like Bret Hart in the ring, and that maybe that's all she could ever have become even with years of the best training money can buy, a hyperbolic time chamber and Goku. I get it. She did get people to hate her even if it was "on accident" which is a start.

Also, her age has nothing to do with anything. If she's over the hill at 32 or whatever then so is half the roster.

She's not "over the hill" just yet, but she's getting close. If she was ready out the box right now then, yeah, you could use her for a good 4, 5, maybe even 6 years, but she's not. With how little she's improved in what, two years of training? She's basically going to need years more practice under her belt. By the time she's ready she'd be nearing 35. On average that's about the age Divas start hanging it up. You can't compare the guys to the girls here, man. Divas don't last long in WWE.

And, yeah, they're entitled to giving her a shot, but why bother at all? No one seems capable of answering that question. What makes her worth the time and effort? Please explain this mentality to me so I can understand it. I just can't understand why people don't think it's odd for a company to throw away money on something that hasn't shown any real promise at all.

I do agree that she could make a decent non-wrestling personality though. You're right that she's got major heat. Although that heat isn't really heel heat and more just "fucking go away" heat. Still she could use that to help a heel wrestler get over, or something of that magnitude. Although anything she does should probably be kept to a minimum in the talking department too as she's really not that great there either. Use her for what she's good for, eye candy.

Wishbone 10-11-2015 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4714706)
Well, she does seem like a cool person to hang with.

I know, right? If she ever turns face I demand they let some of that shine through. Don't totally drop the BOSS gimmick, but at least let her show some of her quirkier side, and try to connect with the fans. Not that she should turn face any time soon. Heel Sasha is just amazing on every level.

ron the dial 10-11-2015 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4714700)
She would make an excellent valet. Any wrestler associated with her will get a lot of heat.

i would support this 100%

Frank Drebin 10-11-2015 04:24 AM

@wishbone

Whatever they saw in her, they saw some form of raw talent. Think of an amateur baseball or basketball player who scouts try to project based on a skill set they have now and being able to build on it. Here's a guy who throws 100 but has no control. Maybe that can be fixed with the right coaching. Here's a kid who can jump out of the gym but has no jump shot. Maybe that could be fixed. Here's this chick who had a good look and garners massive heel heat just by showing her face but sucks in-ring. Maybe that can be fixed. Maybe not. Worth the investment if she can put enough of it together.

Wishbone 10-11-2015 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 4714717)
@wishbone

Whatever they saw in her, they saw some form of raw talent. Think of an amateur baseball or basketball player who scouts try to project based on a skill set they have now and being able to build on it. Here's a guy who throws 100 but has no control. Maybe that can be fixed with the right coaching. Here's a kid who can jump out of the gym but has no jump shot. Maybe that could be fixed. Here's this chick who had a good look and garners massive heel heat just by showing her face but sucks in-ring. Maybe that can be fixed. Maybe not. Worth the investment if she can put enough of it together.

Problem with that analogy is that she didn't get that heat until she started showing her inability to wrestle. In fact they originally booked her as a face. That logic doesn't hold water at all, man. All she had going for her on day one was literally just her look. A look that everyone blows out of proportion. She's not any hotter than the massive number of other ex-models turned Divas that WWE has shelled out. There wasn't anything special about her at all except the Ronald McDonald hair.

Droford 10-11-2015 11:21 AM

The video of hornswiggke falling down the stairs at Kurt Hawkins wedding is hilarious

Ultra Mantis 10-11-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4714524)
Austin Aries has a place in the stupid tournament TNA is doing. Good for him, but I'd rather see him in NXT. Really want AJ Styles and The Bullet Club in NXT.

All those matches were taped months ago before his contract expired. I don't think he's even the only guy in the tournament that doesn't work there anymore. James Storm is probably in there too.

Droford 10-11-2015 12:14 PM

TNA should have explored taping in a gym with green screens to CGI a crowd in afterwards.

Damian Rey 10-11-2015 02:04 PM

Lol that'd be awesome. They could just rent a soundstage somewhere and set up the ramp and ring only and green screen the rest.

Emperor Smeat 10-11-2015 03:58 PM

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Wishbone 10-11-2015 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4714803)
Lol that'd be awesome. They could just rent a soundstage somewhere and set up the ramp and ring only and green screen the rest.

I am actually extremely surprised no one has tried this yet lol :rofl:

GD 10-11-2015 05:50 PM

John Cena did to Seth Rollins what he did to Kevin Owens. Lose one match and then annihilate them.

Savio 10-11-2015 06:12 PM

Thats how you build the future

Rammsteinmad 10-11-2015 06:35 PM

I get bored with feuds these days not lasting longer than three PPV matches.

Jari 10-11-2015 07:16 PM

With Eve Marie, I thought one thing they could do to capitalise on the heat she's got amongst the fans would be for the Authority to back her as 'the face of the Diva's Revolution' ala Randy Orton over Daniel Bryan, where the Authority act to ensure that she wins and keeps the Diva's title sort of in the way Stephanie was assisted to hold the Woman's title back in the day.

Then I realised, not only would it fly right in the face of the idea of what the Diva's Revolution should be about but that this wouldn't result so much in heat as it would 2015 Royal Rumble style anger and ultimately even more of a feeling amongst the audience that the WWE doesn't care about what they want.

Lock Jaw 10-11-2015 08:22 PM

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NXT! NXT! NXT!

Droford 10-11-2015 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4714909)

Looks like human caterpillar 3


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