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The CyNick 09-19-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4705907)
Yes, as in JR actually making the call.

And lol at "He's older than Vince than when Vince wonthe title". Clearly Vince and Sting are comparable.

Age wise, ya they are.

Damian Rey 09-19-2015 02:06 PM

Which is superfluous in the context of the conversation. You asked how Sting being older brings prestige to a title Vince won at a younger age, which is irrelevant. One is a wrestler, who's career spanned decades, won multiple world titles and is billed as a legend. The other is an announcer turned evil owner who won on a fluke. Their age has nothing to do with any perceived prestige they may or may not bring to a title.

Shadrick 09-19-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4705926)
Age wise, ya they are.

Their characters roles in the company are entirely different as well as the circumstances surrounding them.

Droford 09-19-2015 03:30 PM

It just occurred to me that they should have booked Sting/Cena/Rollins like they did Benoit/Jericho/Angle at WM 16 when Angle was the EuroContinental Champion, first fall for the IC title second fir the European.

Damian Rey 09-19-2015 03:50 PM

That's actually a stellar idea. I'd be open to having Rollins retain tomorrow night and then go into next month's ppv in a triple threat with both belts on the line.

Though I'm doubtful he will, if Sting did win tomorrow night but Rollins holds onto the US title, you could book Cena/Rollins/Sting with the US belt on the line in the first fall and the World title in the second.

The CyNick 09-19-2015 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4705940)
Their characters roles in the company are entirely different as well as the circumstances surrounding them.

No doubt. Sting would be a bigger joke as champion than Vince was given their roles

The CyNick 09-19-2015 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4705936)
Which is superfluous in the context of the conversation. You asked how Sting being older brings prestige to a title Vince won at a younger age, which is irrelevant. One is a wrestler, who's career spanned decades, won multiple world titles and is billed as a legend. The other is an announcer turned evil owner who won on a fluke. Their age has nothing to do with any perceived prestige they may or may not bring to a title.

Clearly you don't understand the business

Damian Rey 09-19-2015 05:45 PM

Says the guy comparing Vince McMahon with Sting.

Evil Vito 09-19-2015 07:47 PM

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<font color=goldenrod>This beatdown makes me laugh just because of Brian Adams.

Adams: "Curt's like a brother to us!"
Nash: "It's just business!"
*Adams immediately beats the shit out of Curt*</font>

Emperor Smeat 09-19-2015 08:08 PM

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#1-norm-fan 09-19-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4705839)
I was gonna mention Lesnar's reign as making the title bring a "big fight feel" with it.

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4705895)
You seem to have a problem with heel champions.

...

Shadrick 09-19-2015 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4705985)
No doubt. Sting would be a bigger joke as champion than Vince was given their roles

I'm inclined to agree with this. It has nothing to do with their ages though, which was my point.

Kris P Lettus 09-19-2015 10:40 PM

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Droford 09-19-2015 10:44 PM

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Rosebuds are doing better than Adam Rose

Kris P Lettus 09-19-2015 10:49 PM

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Emperor Smeat 09-20-2015 12:26 AM

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At the San Jose, CA Wizard World Comic Con, Paige participated in a Q&A session with fans. During the event, Paige talked about picking her battles with creative, what she would do if she was in charge of the Divas Revolution, and who she would want as a tag team partner.

Paige claimed that she picks her battles with creative and said it can be frustrating. Paige gave the examples of being put in a 5-on-1 situation at Survivor Series and the Submission Sorority name as times when she spoke up against creative and they did not listen to her ...

Paige said she also told creative that the Submission Sorority name was a bad idea.

"I said to a couple of the writers, I was like, 'dude, Submission Sorority? Don't let children Google that. So we have to, like, change it.' And they were like, 'oh, we'll speak with Vince [McMahon] at some point.' And, I'm like, 'okay'. And then I see we get called the Submission Sorority on RAW the next day, there are millions of people watching, and then suddenly people are like, 'oh great, you're in a porn group'."
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...t-shed-change/

Seems like Paige is starting to have the same problems Katlyn, AJ, and other women wrestles had when it came with Creative (and management).

GD 09-20-2015 02:24 AM

lol Ryback

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Jari 09-20-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4706064)
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...t-shed-change/

Seems like Paige is starting to have the same problems Katlyn, AJ, and other women wrestles had when it came with Creative (and management).

Another example of the people at the top of the company being completely out of touch. I would highly recommend listening to Jericho's podcast with the New Day, which really highlights what CM Punk said about Vince having no clue what he's doing.

Jari 09-20-2015 07:37 AM

The New Day podcast also makes me worry that someone like Vince or Kevin Dunn is going to squash their momentum. You know because of the whole going out and making something for themselves.

Mercenary 09-20-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jari (Post 4706084)
The New Day podcast also makes me worry that someone like Vince or Kevin Dunn is going to squash their momentum. You know because of the whole going out and making something for themselves.

they best leave New day the hell alone

XL 09-20-2015 11:12 AM

New Day is mere weeks away from being mishandled.

Unless it was "the plan from the beginning" to send them out there as faces with such a bad gimmick that the fans would turn them heel. They'd then be such entertaining heels that the crowd get behind them and "Hey presto!", New Day are faces just like Vince planned.

It's some Inception-level stuff.

The CyNick 09-20-2015 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4705989)
Says the guy comparing Vince McMahon with Sting.

You did see the match when Vince "won" the title right?

If Sting wins in that same manner, i'm perfectly fine with it.

Its one thing to just look up wikipedia to get some facts to back up your arguement, but you make a better case when you understand the context behind what happened. Maybe after a couple rounds of discussing the business with me you will become more educated. Gonna take some time though clearly.

Damian Rey 09-20-2015 01:54 PM

Don't use facts for arguments guys. You heard it here. You must know the business and that clearly means a pro wrestler who's been active since the 80s and an announcer turned evil owner are comparable. I've seen the light.

Emperor Smeat 09-20-2015 02:31 PM

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Damian Rey 09-20-2015 03:11 PM

New Day needs to do this.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4705765)
I'm not talking about the quality of the product, I'm talking about what internet fans consider the "prestige" of the titles.

I guarantee, every single title in the WWE from this day forward will always be spoken about in the context of comparing it to it's "former glories", or how it can "regain it's prestige" or some other nonsense. There will never, ever be a day when internet fans will be happy and say how prestigious any specific title is.

Not anymore.

I disagree, just because I recently gave a crap about the US Title.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4705892)
Okay, you're right. Its more like you pick up a book that you enjoyed for a while, then stopped enjoying, then skipped a whole bunch of pages, read 5 pages and went "I dont like it" and put it back down.

Its fine to do that, just doesnt mean you can have an opinion on current storylines because you are not following close enough. My guess is you are lying and you watch every week like the rest of us, and dont admit it. Its cool though, I still like you.

It's sort of the WWE's job to make people care about their product though. That Maluco doesn't want to watch is sort of the point, bro...

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2015 05:10 PM

That's all I'm going to say to CyNick at this point, because he's just being ridiculous for the sake of it, I think. Not worth it's own thread either.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2015 05:15 PM

I keep flipping on what I think the WWE will do with the belts at Night of Champions. I'm thinking they might have Sting help Cena win the US Title to get him some pops (because they think Sting needs to be shined up for his spot) and then Rollins beats Sting, but it's really tricky to call. Really don't care as much as I would if this were Rollins, WCW fan during the late 90's, inspired by Sting, but realized that guys like Sting that have a problem with authority lack power and kilelr instinct vs. Sting, vigilante and justice-bringer, all-consumed with loosening Rollins' corrupt grasp on the WWE Title. You know, as opposed to two guys who care more about statues or making Triple H smile.

Does anyone else feel weird when they talk about Sting going after the "one title that eluded him" like I do? If he wanted the WWE Title so badly, why didn't he come to WWE? Seems like he should be trying to win the belt to prove that he could have been the World Heavyweight Champion anywhere at any point in time.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2015 05:15 PM

Paige comes off as really bratty in that interview about creative.

Rammsteinmad 09-20-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4706246)
I disagree, just because I recently gave a crap about the US Title.

I too, especially when Cena was doing his open challenge. But caring about the title recently because of the quality of the matches, won't change the fact that people will always have this mentality of "restoring it to it's former glory".

None of the titles have ever lost any of their prestige in my opinion.

The CyNick 09-20-2015 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4706249)
It's sort of the WWE's job to make people care about their product though. That Maluco doesn't want to watch is sort of the point, bro...

Their business keeps getting bigger though. So just because one person leaves, doesnt mean its in the tank.

Especially when that someone watches every month

The CyNick 09-20-2015 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4706250)
That's all I'm going to say to CyNick at this point, because he's just being ridiculous for the sake of it, I think. Not worth it's own thread either.

how am I being ridiculous? Differences of opinion are good for a place like this, no?

Besides, you guys begged me to come back. Not the other way around.

Lock Jaw 09-20-2015 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Gunn (Post 4706270)
Watched last weeks NXT, Dana Brooke is really coming along. Think she'll be the next breakout star after Bailey.

Just need to learn to tone down the constant posing.... She was getting better at it, but then the last time she had a match she did the pose like seven times in a row during her entrance....

VSG 09-20-2015 10:40 PM

Yeah all those poses get really old quickly, and on the main roster only like 1% of the live audience will even see it.

Tom Guycott 09-21-2015 02:33 AM

Just saw a commercial on TV for "The Mark Madden Show", and I was like WTF... then I realized that I do live/work close enough to Pittsburgh for that to be an actual thing without it being national in any way.

Emperor Smeat 09-21-2015 06:32 AM

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Tom Guycott 09-21-2015 10:20 AM

Razor's Angels

parkmania 09-21-2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4706789)

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4706838)
Razor's Angels

Seeing this pairing on WWE tv would be...


TOO SWEEEEEEET!

XL 09-21-2015 05:18 PM

WTF is going on with this place?

owenbrown 09-21-2015 05:41 PM

trust me, XL, you don't want to know...

XL 09-21-2015 05:42 PM

Just looked like the grown ups had gone out for a minute and the kids were writing on the walls in crayon. The humanity of it all.

owenbrown 09-21-2015 05:43 PM

That seems to happen a lot around here lately...

Droford 09-21-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4706838)
Razor's Angels

Should Be Rikishi cause you know..hes..you know..a bad man


Jari 09-21-2015 07:46 PM

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Can we take this moment to enjoy Ric Flair beating up Mick Foley's book?

DaveWadding 09-21-2015 11:17 PM

It's fucking astonishing to me that some of the most iconic Attitude Era moments happened in consecutive weeks. Austin rides Zamboni into arena/Kane Undertaker break Vince's leg, then the next week Vince is in the hospital, which means Socko/Dr. Austin, and the week after that, Vince comes back and Austin pours cement into the Corvette. Then there's the PPV and the night afterwards is BANG 3:16.

Just bananas.

#1-norm-fan 09-21-2015 11:43 PM

Shit was crazy.

Tammy 09-22-2015 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 4707042)
trust me, XL, you don't want to know...

Hi I'm Tammy. I'm single and ready to mingle. Just give me a call sometime at 914-337-1500.

Emperor Smeat 09-22-2015 01:45 PM

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Emperor Smeat 09-22-2015 03:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One month ago, I asked for a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WomensPipebomb?src=hash">#WomensPipebomb</a>. Last night on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash">#RAW</a> we got one! Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/RealPaigeWWE">@RealPaigeWWE</a>. <a href="http://t.co/25QrtHdCMu">pic.twitter.com/25QrtHdCMu</a></p>&mdash; Mick Foley (@RealMickFoley) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley/status/646332305527717888">September 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Lock Jaw 09-22-2015 03:31 PM

Was not on the level of any of AJ Lee's promos, but was alright....

Mr. Nerfect 09-22-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4706281)
how am I being ridiculous? Differences of opinion are good for a place like this, no?

Besides, you guys begged me to come back. Not the other way around.

A lack of logic and completely asinine statements ignoring reality are what makes this ridiculous. I didn't beg you back; although I was glad when you returned. Have your fun, but this shit became stupid quite a few posts back.

The CyNick 09-22-2015 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4707614)
A lack of logic and completely asinine statements ignoring reality are what makes this ridiculous. I didn't beg you back; although I was glad when you returned. Have your fun, but this shit became stupid quite a few posts back.

I challenge you to show me something I said that lacks logic. You're just defensive because I dont agree with everything you're saying and you have a tough time defending your position on a subject.

Its good to have your opinions, and be passionate about them. But if you cant back your points with any facts or reason, and resort to just calling someone's opinions asinine it shows a lack of ability to debate a point.

The CyNick 09-22-2015 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4707595)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One month ago, I asked for a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WomensPipebomb?src=hash">#WomensPipebomb</a>. Last night on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash">#RAW</a> we got one! Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/RealPaigeWWE">@RealPaigeWWE</a>. <a href="http://t.co/25QrtHdCMu">pic.twitter.com/25QrtHdCMu</a></p>&mdash; Mick Foley (@RealMickFoley) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley/status/646332305527717888">September 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Promo could have been great, but was so poorly executed.

Another one of these examples where fans want the talent to be great, but the talent isnt great.

The CyNick 09-22-2015 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 4707432)
It's fucking astonishing to me that some of the most iconic Attitude Era moments happened in consecutive weeks. Austin rides Zamboni into arena/Kane Undertaker break Vince's leg, then the next week Vince is in the hospital, which means Socko/Dr. Austin, and the week after that, Vince comes back and Austin pours cement into the Corvette. Then there's the PPV and the night afterwards is BANG 3:16.

Just bananas.

Was Kaientai and Mae Young on consecutive weeks?

#1-norm-fan 09-22-2015 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4707640)
I challenge you to show me something I said that lacks logic. You're just defensive because I dont agree with everything you're saying and you have a tough time defending your position on a subject.

Its good to have your opinions, and be passionate about them. But if you cant back your points with any facts or reason, and resort to just calling someone's opinions asinine it shows a lack of ability to debate a point.

I quoted a pretty clearly illogical point back in post #19457 that you ignored. Probably stuff like that Noid is kinda exasperated with. Now it's come down to "No, YOU don't have facts or reason! YOU'RE having a tough time defending your subject!" and there's not much more point to even try.

Mr. Nerfect 09-22-2015 07:00 PM

#fan gets it. At least he can tell me why Alex Riley sucks without an argument from authority, using masked men or resorting to ad hominem projections. I'm starting to sound like fucking Kane Knight...

#1-norm-fan 09-22-2015 07:04 PM

Strawman

Lock Jaw 09-22-2015 07:29 PM

I thought I told you guys to spin-off arguing with The CyNick into a new thread....

#1-norm-fan 09-22-2015 07:55 PM

TPWW defying Lock Jaw's orders. It's a regular mutiny.

Emperor Smeat 09-23-2015 01:08 AM

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If WWE was hoping the buzz from the Night of Champions PPV was going to help them in the recent audience drain vs. Monday Night Football, they had their faith misplaced. The 9/21 edition of Raw, coming off the PPV, garnered just 3,349,000 viewers which is not only down from last week's 3,397,000 viewers, but is the lowest audience for the series (beyond a Christmas holiday episode) since it expanded to a three hour version in July 2012.

The audience dropped over the course of the three hours, showing that WWE's audience was not hooked by John Cena vs. Seth Rollins as the main event, nor the return of Kane to television. The 8 PM hour brought in 3,420,000 viewers for the first hour, then dropped to 3,368,000 viewers before bottoming out in the final hour at just 3,260,000 viewers.

The third hour would be the lowest audience for the 10-11 PM hour of Raw since the series expanded to three hours. Unless there was an error in how the audience was calculated last night, WWE has a lot of hard decisions to make in strategizing how they rebound from the onslaught of Monday Night Football.

Monday Night Football, by the way, brought in 12,479,000 viewers opposite Raw, winning the night.
Outside of maybe the NoC go-home show, past several weeks have been breaking records for lowest ever in the 3 hour era. Down by 530,000 viewers compared to the same week last year.

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As seen at Sunday’s Night of Champions event, a fan jumped the barricade and entered the ring and stood next to Roman Reigns moments before Chris Jericho came out as the mystery partner of Dean Ambrose and Reigns in their match against The Wyatt Family. WWE security quickly tackled him and took him out.

The following day, WWE issued a statement saying they will be prosecuting fans who get involved in WWE programming moving forward, while in the past they only got a lifetime ban from WWE events.

Bryan Alvarez mentioned on today’s installment of Wrestling Observer Live that the fan at Night of Champions is now serving ten days in jail for the incident.
Supposedly WWE has begun beefing up security starting with Smackdown this week. Fan report from the show had security yelling at people if they were standing too close to the railings or trying to move down the aisles.

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Originally Posted by PWI
While the company has indeed pursued prosecution in the past when it came to fans crossing a line or physically hopping the rail in the past, after the last several weeks of incidents (most recently last night at the WWE Night of Champions PPV), the word is that WWE intends to pursue the most stringent prosecution possible if and when another incident occurs. There will be no apologies afterwards from fans at this point, as sometimes has happened, just an immediate arrest followed by WWE's legal team pushing for prosecution and jail time for all offenders.

So, while someone might think they are going to get a momentary laugh or thrill out of getting involved in a WWE event, the reality is that because so many fans have "poked the bear" so to speak of late, anyone that attempts this going forward is looking at not just a lifetime ban from WWE events as well as the venue where the incident takes place, but being charged with criminal offenses That means that person is going to have to deal with the financial hardship of hiring a lawyer to defend them as well as dealing with all the stress of going to court as well as the potential of going to jail, being fined, etc ...

As I noted a few weeks ago on Elite audio, if I am WWE, I am giving Ronnie Lang and Atlas Security a call. Lang's team dealt with far more dangerous situations in the old days of ECW and always masterfully squashed the situations without harm to any wrestlers. While obviously WWE is a different company and publicly traded, there is obviously something breaking down when it comes to security (and I have no idea if that's in-house or security provided by the venues WWE run) and Lang might be a good outside eye for them to bring on as a consultant to help them fix whatever they might be doing wrong and improve upon what they are doing right.

Speaking of security, Dolph Ziggler noted on his Twitter that WWE Security professional Muriel Howell left the company this weekend. From the wrestlers I've spoken to since it was announced, to a person, she was described as having done an amazing job in her role of protecting talents and will be missed.

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On the subject of the Superman Punch, Reigns stated that he started doing the move because no one else was doing it and it is just something that ended up working out well. According to Reigns, he did not develop the theatrics of punching the ground at first. Backstage, this setup for the Superman Punch is called ThunderCat.

"I didn't really develop the whole theatrics, the setup for it, when I ThunderCat down on the ground [in developmental]. That's what we call it, actually, so you all know. I don't know why we call it ThunderCat, but that's what we call it".

When asked whether the name, Superman Punch, would be better suited for John Cena, Reigns stated that he did not name the move himself.

"I'm not one of those nerds that names his moves. It was called a Spear before I did it, so I'm going to continue to call it a Spear. It was called a Superman Punch before I did it, so I call it a Superman Punch."
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WrestlingDVDNetwork.com has exclusively learned that penciled into WWE’s 2016 Home Video schedule right now is a potential Eric Bischoff DVD and Blu-ray set – complete with a documentary portion on the former President of World Championship Wrestling.

The news comes during a special “Nitro Week” on the WWE Network which features more than 2 hours of Bischoff-themed programming and a countdown of Monday Nitro’s top 10 moments.

Going off a recent WWE DVD Survey issued by the company to select fans in order to gauge interest in future Home Video projects, we know that this Eric Bischoff DVD and a “Greatest Rivalries: Eric Bischoff vs. Vince McMahon” DVD have both been under consideration.

It appears that the Bischoff documentary is the more likely to be produced given today’s update, however as of now the title is still “pending talent involvement”, presumably by the man himself.
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Originally Posted by cagesideseats
Remember when Rusev used to beat up on the likes of Kofi Kingston, Xavier Woods, and Big E while he was coming up through WWE? Well, the four teamed up for a match against Dolph Ziggler and the Dudley Boyz on Raw last night and no one made any mention of it on commentary.

But don't worry, in the age of social media we can get the word straight from the source.

First, Kingston brought up the elephant in the room:

All that time we spent beefing, who would've thought we'd make such a great team?! New Day + @RusevBul = Supreme Dream Team! #AllisForgiven
— Kofi Kingston (@TrueKofi) September 22, 2015

Then, Woods actually told us what happened:

.@RusevBUL actually had us over for dinner to apologize for the way he used to treat us. Now we are friends. #6ManTag pic.twitter.com/bJPzWbSHI0
— Xavier Woods (@XavierWoodsPhD) September 22, 2015

Rusev expanded on it:

And to make fun of the @LanaWWE hahahahahaahaahaha. Just 4 man whole chickens and yogurt. Laughing at a woman https://t.co/as9xfPwnsQ
— Rusev (@RusevBUL) September 22, 2015

Big E got in on it:

"I suggested she clap...but she can't! Hehehehehe. Her wrist is as useful as a floppy disk!...Pass the baklava!" https://t.co/XxWHHErsfO
— Epsilon (@WWEBigE) September 22, 2015

Found the whole thing to be a bit funny. Rusev still making fun of Lana, New Day still being goofy, and them settling past differences over a meal of chicken and yogurt.

Disturbed316 09-23-2015 05:16 AM

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Mr. Nerfect 09-23-2015 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4707663)
Strawman

Ah, the memories...

Mr. Nerfect 09-23-2015 08:34 AM

Rusev is absolutely hilarious on Twitter. I heard of an instance where Lana was asking for ideas for shows to watch, so Rusev said "You should watch...BONES! hahahahahahhaha!"

Mr. Nerfect 09-23-2015 08:34 AM

I would like to see more of The New Day and Rusev together. Dolph Ziggler & Cesaro can join the Dudleys. There's a Survivor Series match for ya.

Mr. Nerfect 09-23-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4707663)
Strawman

I raise you a...

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The CyNick 09-23-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4707665)
I thought I told you guys to spin-off arguing with The CyNick into a new thread....

Are you in charge here? Just want to know who i need to suck up to.

The CyNick 09-23-2015 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4707662)
#fan gets it. At least he can tell me why Alex Riley sucks without an argument from authority, using masked men or resorting to ad hominem projections. I'm starting to sound like fucking Kane Knight...

Is he still around?

The CyNick 09-23-2015 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4706010)
...

I'm sorry it took so long to respond to this, I am extremely popular and have lots of posts to respond to.

Seems like there is a problem with some people on here about how a heel champion is to be booked as to not turn them face. It's a fine line to make them still be credible as a champion but still show cowardness to make them a heel. I think Rollins is fine right now, but I also think we're coming to a fork in the road.

The CyNick 09-23-2015 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4707811)
I would like to see more of The New Day and Rusev together. Dolph Ziggler & Cesaro can join the Dudleys. There's a Survivor Series match for ya.

I wonder if Dudleys get heel reactions in the Garden vs New Day.

The CyNick 09-23-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4707663)
Strawman

Typical response to someone who can't cobble together a counter point.

I feel like Donald Trump up here. Everyone hates on me because I make sound arguments that people feel like they have to disagree with but aren't sure why.

Mr. Nerfect 09-23-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4707848)
Is he still around?

I don't believe so. I don't know the story, but I think he may have even been run off here. It's a shame, because when he actually posted his thoughts, they were actually pretty good.

Mr. Nerfect 09-23-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4707850)
I'm sorry it took so long to respond to this, I am extremely popular and have lots of posts to respond to.

Seems like there is a problem with some people on here about how a heel champion is to be booked as to not turn them face. It's a fine line to make them still be credible as a champion but still show cowardness to make them a heel. I think Rollins is fine right now, but I also think we're coming to a fork in the road.

You don't need to show cowardice as opposed to showing them having a dickish sense of arrogance and self-preservation. The problem with booking your heels like legitimate cowards is that it undercuts their entire existence as a pro-wrestler and no one believes in them.

Mr. Nerfect 09-23-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4707852)
I wonder if Dudleys get heel reactions in the Garden vs New Day.

I don't think so. The Dudleys have established themselves as having a strong association with New York. I imagine The New Day will have their supporters, but I think the crowd will be genuinely rabid.

I imagine ND cutting an on the way to the ring promo sans trombone about how it got stolen by your typical New Yorker earlier today or something too.

Rammsteinmad 09-23-2015 02:00 PM

I would love to see Spike Dudley come back, so we can see New Day vs. Dudleys in a six-man tables tag match.

The CyNick 09-23-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4707871)
I don't think so. The Dudleys have established themselves as having a strong association with New York. I imagine The New Day will have their supporters, but I think the crowd will be genuinely rabid.

I imagine ND cutting an on the way to the ring promo sans trombone about how it got stolen by your typical New Yorker earlier today or something too.

Yeah i hate those promos that force the fans to cheer in the opposite way they want. I feel like a true NYC crowd would see that the Dudleys are past their prime.

The CyNick 09-23-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4707870)
You don't need to show cowardice as opposed to showing them having a dickish sense of arrogance and self-preservation. The problem with booking your heels like legitimate cowards is that it undercuts their entire existence as a pro-wrestler and no one believes in them.

My answer to that is there are plenty of ways to skin a fish. Lots of diffrrent types of heels. Didn't Rollins beat Sting clean AFTER just finishing a match with Cena? Cena is the top babyface in the territory. Can't be any shame in losing to him. I'm assuming he beats Kane clean at HIAC. So he is getting his wins.

Sepholio 09-23-2015 02:56 PM

Seth Rollins has injured Brock, Cena, and Sting all in about 6 months. RAW having its worst ratings basically ever with him as the champion. People need to start facing facts. The man is a liability.

Innovator 09-23-2015 03:06 PM

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Innovator 09-23-2015 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4707955)
Seth Rollins has injured Brock, Cena, and Sting all in about 6 months. RAW having its worst ratings basically ever with him as the champion. People need to start facing facts. The man is a liability.

a) Cena leaned into the knee

b) Sting is 56

c) Brock can't be injured

The CyNick 09-23-2015 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4707955)
Seth Rollins has injured Brock, Cena, and Sting all in about 6 months. RAW having its worst ratings basically ever with him as the champion. People need to start facing facts. The man is a liability.

Maybe. My guess is there a lot of factors to ratings. The company is likely must concerned with network subs. They only get released quarterly. The house show business is more immediate and good indicator of the brand not so much Rollins himself.

You also have to invest time into guys to make them stars. It doesn't always happen overnight. It might be time to move on from Rollins, or it could be a waste of 6 months to move on, and he's on the brink of being a hot babyface coming out of a program with HHH.

Tom Guycott 09-23-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4707595)
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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4707641)
Promo could have been great, but was so poorly executed.

Another one of these examples where fans want the talent to be great, but the talent isnt great.

Let me dust off my patented "Late To The Party" RAW examination.

Firstly, Paige. The thing is, she isn't *that* poor of a promo. She has done better. Only problem I saw here was the lack of vitriol... she was essentially cutting a heel promo with a face delivery. It wasn't unlike AJ when she went full out Shawn Michaels (and Tamina was her Diesel) when that run started, she didn't seem like she believed her words. In a few weeks, she oozed about as much douchebag as her husband could. Yes, she should have knocked that promo out of the park, but let's not pretend she's horrible.

MEANWHILE, Big Show's promo is how she should have handled that. Top Man jokes and seesawing relevance aside, he came off like he really *believed* what he said about Brock.

New Day featuring Xavier Woods' trombone: I love the snowballing of the whole gimmick. Big E has refined his Southern Baptist Preacher voice to where it is over the top in a good way as opposed to sounding forced, Kofi making the clap-skip a constant thing, and then we have Consequences Creed himself doing a lot of emoting, talking crowd audible smack (which I am a fan of), and taking a seemingly random skill of playing a goddamn trombone into an entertaining embellishment. Especially the corner stomps/irish whip bit that seems to be now a regular thing.

One question: does Kane now work for The Law Offices of Park, Park, & Park? Maybe they'll finally find Abyss chilling with Malibu Kane.

Brown Strawman looks like what would happen if Earthquake were in more of a bodybuilding mold and wore WWI biplane attire to the ring.

Hey! Lillian put a "p" at the end of " CHAMPIONCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAA..... puh" tonight for the Cena/Rollins match.

I wonders omething about Rollins' legit. Between busting Cena's nose and giving Sting an ouchie, he seems like he gets a little hesitant at times with some of his moves and mannerisms. Almost like he's overcompensating making way less fluid movements than he is capable of. Like he is constantly second guessing himself.

The CyNick 09-23-2015 04:00 PM

My problem with Paige was she rushed everything and stepped all over Charlotte. I liked the idea of the promo, thought it was well scripted, just thought she fell on her face with the delivery.

I also felt like her look coming down the ramp gave away the angle. Which she may have been told to do, so don't know if that's her fault or creative.

#1-norm-fan 09-23-2015 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4707662)
#fan gets it. At least he can tell me why Alex Riley sucks without an argument from authority, using masked men or resorting to ad hominem projections. I'm starting to sound like fucking Kane Knight...

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4707663)
Strawman

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4707853)
Typical response to someone who can't cobble together a counter point.

I feel like Donald Trump up here. Everyone hates on me because I make sound arguments that people feel like they have to disagree with but aren't sure why.

I FEEL like you're just fucking around at this point but I'm not positive...

Wishbone 09-23-2015 06:46 PM

So I just bought a crap load of WWE tees since they were having the 30% off sale... Really having buyers remorse now :-\

Rammsteinmad 09-23-2015 07:38 PM

Send them to me. It'll make you feel good about yourself.

Asmo 09-23-2015 11:32 PM

Yeah, i wouldn't mind some as well!

Damian Rey 09-24-2015 12:01 AM

Which shirts did you get?

#1-norm-fan 09-24-2015 12:09 AM

I feel like NWA should really try to rebuild their brand and, maybe not compete with WWE but become a viable second option. They've got the history that other companies suffer from when they try to claim prestige for their titles. Hell, WWE even has to acknowledge them and give them free promotion when talking about their own history a lot. I feel like there's some way where their territory system could actually work to build a national product even in this day and age. I'm just not sure how. Also, they'd probably have to ignore the last few decades completely...

Simple Fan 09-24-2015 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4708162)
I feel like NWA should really try to rebuild their brand and, maybe not compete with WWE but become a viable second option. They've got the history that other companies suffer from when they try to claim prestige for their titles. Hell, WWE even has to acknowledge them and give them free promotion when talking about their own history a lot. I feel like there's some way where their territory system could actually work to build a national product even in this day and age. I'm just not sure how. Also, they'd probably have to ignore the last few decades completely...


Totally agree. Wish Dixie would sell TNA to the NWA and rebrand it Nonstop Wrestling Action and be their top promotion. They could use the rest as a huge developmental system. Their titles are still pretty prominent, they show up in NJPW and ROH every now and again but they need their own show to really showcase all their talent.

Nicky Fives 09-24-2015 01:02 AM

smart wrestling-related decisions and Dixie Carter seem to be allergic to each other.....

Wishbone 09-24-2015 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4708160)
Which shirts did you get?

Grabbed the two new Undertaker ones, a Sheamus, the Dean Ambrose one with the DA symbol on the front, the black Dolph Ziggler one with pink lettering, the Bray Wyatt with the lamb, and a Bayley because fuck da police... I mean I saved like 60 bucks on the order but it was still like $150 for t-shirts hence the remorse after the fact lol.

Damian Rey 09-24-2015 01:06 AM

Christ that's a big haul. I've always wanted to walk into a buffet with a Ryback "HUNGRY" shirt.

Wishbone 09-24-2015 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4708175)
smart wrestling-related decisions and Dixie Carter seem to be allergic to each other.....

Dixie Carter should be made to wear a championship belt with the word "dunce" written on it at all times until she gets her ass out of the business.

Wishbone 09-24-2015 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4708177)
Christ that's a big haul. I've always wanted to walk into a buffet with a Ryback "HUNGRY" shirt.

Yeah, I just recently got a nice little gift of money so I was like "hmm, what should I buy?". Was gonna go with a few games, but I was like "nah, got Fallout 4 preordered and there's nothing else I want". Decided to check out WWE's shop and saw the sale and decided to buy a few. Ended up with a full cart and at the last second decided to just buy them all. Well, all but 2 since I would have gone over my limit. Surprisingly enough a Ryback tee was one of the ones I threw back. XD

Damian Rey 09-24-2015 01:13 AM

There was a Lesnar shirt or two I wanted a while back. Have the one he originally wore upon his return. I've noticed their sizing isn't consistent though. Have 3different CM Punk shirts, all xl, and all varying in fit.

Wishbone 09-24-2015 01:17 AM

Haven't had an official WWE shirt since the first John Cena "Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect" one came out around WM 22. Still had that shirt until last year when it finally crapped out and the sleeve completely came off.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-24-2015 01:52 AM

That shirt never gave up broh.

GD 09-24-2015 05:57 AM

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GD 09-24-2015 05:58 AM

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