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Droford 09-11-2015 12:56 AM

It'll probably tie 1-1 trips comes out and pulls a WM 12 to restart in sudden desth, furl sail goes "this is awesome" crazy and then bailey wins like 2 minutes in.

Droford 09-11-2015 12:58 AM

Paige sorta looks like the girl I work with, has the same sticking her tongue out in pics deal.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...571295_140.jpg

Droford 09-11-2015 01:11 AM

If she sounded British it would be too much

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 04:32 AM

I hope Bayley vs. Sasha goes to the limit without either of them scoring a fall. It then goes to sudden death and they go longer, with Bayley eventually retaining the title.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4701857)
If he was really over people would like him even if he was losing all the time

See: Daniel Bryan

That's true to an extent, but the thing is that they haven't really given the fans any reason to kayfabe hook onto Cesaro. Well, he did beat Rusev on SmackDown, but no one saw that.

Bryan was the World Heavyweight Champion when he got beat in 18 seconds and the fans really got behind him.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 04:34 AM

Daniel Bryan should be used as a "coach" for Ryback and Cesaro.

Sixx 09-11-2015 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4701943)
Paige sorta looks like the girl I work with, has the same sticking her tongue out in pics deal.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...571295_140.jpg

She looks like a Paige muppet if anything.

Droford 09-11-2015 08:16 AM

http://www.kayfabenews.com/lana-hear...v-making-love/

Big Vic 09-11-2015 09:05 AM

Remember during the MNW if someone was getting over they wouldn't bury them because

A) They would like to showcase them for the fans
B) They were worried about them jumping ship.

Innovator 09-11-2015 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4701990)

The only way this angle ends is with Rusev as a babyface

Anybody Thrilla 09-11-2015 10:31 AM

Did anyone watch the Paige/Banks match on Smackdown? It was the dumbest fucking ending I think I've ever seen.

Heisenberg 09-11-2015 10:42 AM

Triple H in NXT looks alot like Dana White, their suits and pic formats

Big Vic 09-11-2015 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4702051)
Did anyone watch the Paige/Banks match on Smackdown? It was the dumbest fucking ending I think I've ever seen.

What happened?

Lock Jaw 09-11-2015 10:57 AM

They started "brawling"/"cat fighting" and the ref tried to break it up but couldn't..... Team BAD and the rest of PCB and a bunch of other refs came to break it up as well...

But Paige and Sasha kept breaking free to take shots at each other... Thought that part was "cool", but the initial "brawl" looked too much like the "stereotypical" "cat fight"....

Rammsteinmad 09-11-2015 11:05 AM

Hey guys, remember when John Cena was "stabbed"?

Innovator 09-11-2015 11:39 AM

By Jesus

Big Vic 09-11-2015 12:05 PM

lol yes

Rammsteinmad 09-11-2015 12:08 PM

If I'm ever stabbed in a nightclub, I'll be sure to get my attackers contact details so I can challenge him to a wrestling match once I'm out of hospital or filming a movie or whatever I will be doing.

Big Vic 09-11-2015 12:42 PM

What if someone hits you in the back of the head with a hammer hijacks your ambulance then hits it with a semi truck?

Sixx 09-11-2015 12:53 PM

What if someone drags your father's casket around the cemetery?

Rammsteinmad 09-11-2015 12:57 PM

I'll address this issue in public with a live microphone.

Innovator 09-11-2015 01:14 PM

Make sure your music hits first before you walk into the venue

Sixx 09-11-2015 01:26 PM

And wear speedos.

EzekielKane 09-11-2015 01:37 PM

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...3f&oe=565F8B8F


Someone enters suplex city.

Sixx 09-11-2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EzekielKane (Post 4702113)

scared the kids away

Rammsteinmad 09-11-2015 02:13 PM

If we could see a video of that "suplex", I bet the guy taking the move is just doing a shitty-looking forward roll into it. Fucking backyarders.

Emperor Smeat 09-11-2015 03:50 PM

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Lock Jaw 09-11-2015 04:21 PM

Where that from.....

Tom Guycott 09-11-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4702152)

For some reason, my head cannon starts the Marcus Cor Von theme when the girls dance by.

Emperor Smeat 09-11-2015 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4702169)
Where that from.....

Think Sasha Banks' Vine or Instagram account. Her and Big E are having a goofy "feud" on social media with Team BAD and New Day joining the fun.

Previous incident involved who wore the better sneakers, Naomi's blinky sneakers or Kofi's winged boots.

GD 09-11-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4702061)
Hey guys, remember when John Cena was "stabbed"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4702068)
By Jesus

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4702082)
lol yes

I still remember the "ass whooping" that Jesus received at the hands of Cena at Armageddon.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-11-2015 05:26 PM

Yeah that was the first time they used the black and white for blood when they recapped the match where Cena killed Jesus.

Lock Jaw 09-11-2015 05:38 PM

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Mercenary 09-11-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4702193)
<blockquote class="twitter-video" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The New Day will never stop dancing for Pediatric Cancer Awareness! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JustKeepDancing?src=hash">#JustKeepDancing</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/mikethemiz">@mikethemiz</a>....CHAAAALLONGGEEE!
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That's it the WWE superstars and Divas need an off season. They are all going nuts.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 06:04 PM

Big E actually looks a bit like a superhero. I'd be afraid to say that around Vince McMahon though, because you just know what he'd try to do with it.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4702013)
Remember during the MNW if someone was getting over they wouldn't bury them because

A) They would like to showcase them for the fans
B) They were worried about them jumping ship.

I often think about what would be different is there was a legitimate rival to the WWE right now. I guarantee that Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler, Ryback, Daniel Bryan, Bray Wyatt, Fandango, Natalya, Emma, Los Matadores -- fuck, about half the roster -- would either be there or used much more effectively on WWE TV. It's a damn shame.

Damian Rey 09-11-2015 06:11 PM

Unfortunately, unless GFW or ROH catch a ton of steam to the point that they're getting weekly television and adding viewers, it's unlikely the current crop of unused talent will ever be given a chance to shine under a brighter light. Really wish they'd start a brand split again.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 06:18 PM

Night of Champions is one of the most awkwardly placed PPVs of the year, in my opinion. It comes just after SummerSlam, where you often have a big angle go down or a heel walk out the big winner. You follow this up with a PPV that is basically presented as a maintenance show, with the gimmick that all five titles are defended. Well, weren't they all defended at SummerSlam too?

I'm not against the idea of a Night of Champions -- especially if it is presented with a bit of chic and class -- but it might be best used as one of those irregular Network specials. You can bust it out when every champion has an obvious and exploitable storyline and make the show shorter than the three-hour run time of a traditional PPV, and perhaps just not show the preliminary matches you use to give the live fans a full experience.

I'm sitting here thinking that as opposed to Seth Rollins vs. Sting and Seth Rollins vs. John Cena being promoted for the September PPV; imagine if Seth Rollins teamed with Triple H to take on the dream team of John Cena & Sting at either Unforgiven or even the first-ever WWE presented version of Fall Brawl. The dynamics they want to explore between Rollins & Triple H are more obviously on display, and Cena gets a main event without cutting off all of Rollins' momentum, and Sting gets some of the pressure removed from his spot. Plus it saves the eventual "Sting challenges for the WWE Title" moment.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 06:22 PM

I'm not sure what the plan is for the Divas Championship, but instead of slapping together whatever they are planning, you could have sat on a Triple Threat between the PCB members, and possibly added Sasha Banks as a fourth participant.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4702205)
Unfortunately, unless GFW or ROH catch a ton of steam to the point that they're getting weekly television and adding viewers, it's unlikely the current crop of unused talent will ever be given a chance to shine under a brighter light. Really wish they'd start a brand split again.

I do think a brand split would be an effective idea at this point.

Damian Rey 09-11-2015 06:37 PM

United States title in Raw, IC title in Smackdown. Hold off on defending the belts on free tv save every once so often. Produce a monthly special with each alternating. Have the world title defended at the big shows only.

Reintroduce King of the Ring with the winner getting a title opportunity at Summer Slam instead of it just being a stupid, worthless gimmick win.

Keep the split completely separate of each other and avoid inter promotional matches for a while.

It could still work damn it.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 06:43 PM

All you need to look at is how many girls they are trying to push through the door at once to realize that there could be benefit in having The Bellas running around on one show, and the new female "rasslers" getting to tear it up on the other.

I'm salivating at the idea of what Paul Heyman could achieve with Dolph Ziggler, Cesaro, Kevin Owens, Rusev, Summer Rae, Lana, Charlotte, Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch on SmackDown.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 06:48 PM

Fuck, Jack Swagger's not doing anything at the moment. Wouldn't he make a logical choice to ship to a new show and give him a chance to get some legs back with fresh minds handling him? In fact, give SmackDown all the guys that aren't currently used -- Fandango, Damien Sandow, Curtis Axel, Heath Slater and Zack Ryder -- and see what comes of them on a new brand.

Having Cody Rhodes & Johnny Curtis come out -- denouncing their RAW gimmicks -- and basically claiming they are going to be kicking down the door on SmackDown, only to be interrupted by the more fun-loving Damien Sandow & Curtis Axel. There's actually a lot to exploit in that dynamic alone. Rhodes and Sandow have a long history; Axel and Rhodes both have family histories in the business; and Curtis...well, Curtis, were a tag team back when Curtis was still Curtis and Curtis was still Michael McGillicutty.

Damian Rey 09-11-2015 06:53 PM

I'd keep the divas champ, much like the world champ, able to tour both brands. Tag champs could tour both as well, with each show having their own set of teams and divas. And like the world title, hold of on the divas title being defended unless it's a big show.

Part of the reason I believe winning an nxt title is so meaningful comes from my belief that them only defended so many times elevates their meaning. A title means less if you're getting to see it fought for constantly.

That's why I like the idea of rotating big shows. Gives youeight weeks to build up and execute a feud for the belt. Imagine Cena having too chomp at the big for 6 to 8 weeks of trying to get back the US title. By the time you get the match on tv the anticipation has had time to boil over and actually create real hype to see the title defended.

Damian Rey 09-11-2015 07:01 PM

If given serious feuds I think Stardust could get legit over. Rhodes has this enviable ability to take what he's given from a creative standpoint and make it entertaining and different from his previous persona. Dashing Cody Rhodes, mustache Cody Rhodes, and now Stardust. If they actually give him focus and put him in something legitimate he could easily be a featured player.

Lock Jaw 09-11-2015 07:10 PM

I hope at this year's Royal Rumble Stardust enters and then later Dashing Cody Rhodes.

Damian Rey 09-11-2015 07:18 PM

Lol that would be great.

Ultra Mantis 09-11-2015 07:19 PM

I'd mark out if this music played.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jZLwVPakzwM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Then later he comes back out with the newer theme and a moustache glued to his lip.

Then after getting eliminated three times he comes back out as Undashing #30 and somehow wins the whole thing, last eliminating Hardcore Holly.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 07:24 PM

Money.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4702223)
I'd keep the divas champ, much like the world champ, able to tour both brands. Tag champs could tour both as well, with each show having their own set of teams and divas. And like the world title, hold of on the divas title being defended unless it's a big show.

Part of the reason I believe winning an nxt title is so meaningful comes from my belief that them only defended so many times elevates their meaning. A title means less if you're getting to see it fought for constantly.

That's why I like the idea of rotating big shows. Gives youeight weeks to build up and execute a feud for the belt. Imagine Cena having too chomp at the big for 6 to 8 weeks of trying to get back the US title. By the time you get the match on tv the anticipation has had time to boil over and actually create real hype to see the title defended.

I get the mentality behind that, and it seems to be the popular route to go; but I kind of feel as if each show needs to have its own champion for its sense of identity. It helps really define the shows as separate. Let's say that Seth Rollins is the WWE World Champion on RAW: If he's feuding with John Cena on RAW and Randy Orton on SmackDown, eventually something has to give there. You can just have him on RAW until they do that PPV, but then you can't really plan Cena vs. Rollins further than that, you know? If Rollins wins, then Cena is left without an opponenet if Rollins goes to SmackDown, and if Cena wins, then SmackDown has a new top face they may not have factored in.

I'd keep the booking teams completely separate. This will mean that they're going to have their own titles, and that could mean some titles that don't even have a counter-point on the other show. An example might be that RAW wants a TV Title to fill some time on RAW, since it's going to be a three-hour show still, and they've got to be exhausting to write, so you want to throw some guys out there for a set period of time and just let them fight. SmackDown would have no need for such a thing.

Even on the tag team front. If you have The Lucha Dragons, Rhodes/Curtis, Sandow/Axel and some newly formed teams on SmackDown; you can still have your current core crop of tag teams on RAW. You don't really need too many teams to have meaningful programs over a set of tag belts.

Damian Rey 09-11-2015 07:59 PM

My argument for dual titles is look how watered down being the WHC eventually became, and as a result, how inconsequential the IC and US titles became. If they want to build an on going feud with one guy from either show than fine. The other show still has its own champ, IC or US, too create other feuds that matter.

GD 09-11-2015 08:06 PM

The World Heavyweight Championship was watered down as a direct result of the "RAW supershow" concept. With it not being defended exclusively on Smackdown, it became second fiddle to the WWE Championship. I truly believe that they could've done a better job at maintaining it at the same level as the WWE title. Like when Angle and Lesnar feuded for the WWE Championship on Smackdown and Hunter destroying the entire roster to hold on to the World Heavyweight Championship on RAW.

Simple Fan 09-11-2015 08:33 PM

I like the idea of Smackdown being separate from Raw if they can build it up right. Smack down wouldn't need any of WWEs active titles. They could create a TV title for Smackdown and bring some old ones back. It could be like a AAA team in baseball and NXT would be AA and the PC A. Treat it like a WWE farm system.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4702264)
The World Heavyweight Championship was watered down as a direct result of the "RAW supershow" concept. With it not being defended exclusively on Smackdown, it became second fiddle to the WWE Championship. I truly believe that they could've done a better job at maintaining it at the same level as the WWE title. Like when Angle and Lesnar feuded for the WWE Championship on Smackdown and Hunter destroying the entire roster to hold on to the World Heavyweight Championship on RAW.

I agree with this. There were periods of time where the WWE Championship was the hottest property in the company -- during stints on both RAW and SmackDown; and the same can be said for the World Heavyweight Championship. The Supershow stuff did take what was special about SmackDown away from it, but the company had pulled real support for the product before that -- the World Heavyweight Title wasn't in a main event since like 2010.

When John Cena won the World Title, it felt like he could have breathed some new life into it. I mean, look at what he did for the US Title. There is no doubt in my mind that a US Title match could close a show with John Cena at the helm. It's the champion that makes the championship. What didn't work was having two World Champions under one brand.

That being said, we've only had a "WWE World Heavyweight Champion" for two years now. Is it too soon to split it back into the "WWE Champion" and "World Heavyweight Champion"? Maybe creating a new championship is the best way to go about things. A unique name could help the brand stand out, as well.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 09:39 PM

Another random title idea: If they did split the roster, when SmackDown arrives on the USA Network, you could declare the US Championship the inter-promotional one. RAW can keep the IC Title, and it can be the fixed "you're the future/a guy that is successfully re-inventing himself against the young guys" title; the WWE World Title can be their main event belt; the Divas Title can be for the girls; the Tag Team Titles can be the Tag Team Titles. SmackDown can have its World Title; some sort of secondary title; its own set of Tag Team Titles; and can revive the Women's Championship with a new design, billed as the oldest championship on the brand. Meanwhile the US Champion can hover.

Simple Fan 09-11-2015 10:30 PM

I just dont like Smackdown having their own World title. It takes away from the WWE title in my opinion.

GD 09-11-2015 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4702324)
I just dont like Smackdown having their own World title. It takes away from the WWE title in my opinion.

The WWE World Heavyweight Championship's prestige hasn't increased since the World Heavyweight Championship's retirement.

Emperor Smeat 09-11-2015 10:47 PM

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It appears that the angle where The Wyatt Family attacked Randy Orton on Monday was not to set him up as the partner of Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose, but to write him off television.

PWInsider has confirmed with a source within WWE Creative that Orton is not currently figured into storyline plans for the next several weeks, including the Night of Champions PPV.

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Hulk Hogan has landed a gig as the new spokesman for major gambling website, Fanpicks.com.

The website is aware of Hogan's recent scandal, but believes he deserves a second chance. "We all make mistakes and he deserves second chances," said one of the spokesmen for the company.

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PWInsider.com has confirmed with WWE sources that former CZW champion Biff Busick and SHIMMER talent Athena Reese have been officially signed by WWE and will report to the Performance Center later this month.

The pair join Rich Swann as confirmed talents who have been signed to WWE developmental deals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWI
PWInsider.com has confirmed that Sarah Stock, longtime star for CMLL in Mexico who also had a run in TNA as Sarita, has signed on to become a regular coach at the WWE Performance Center.

Stock had several Guest Coaching stints earlier this year and made a cameo as a model for Tyler Breeze's entrance at a NXT Takeover special. She's always been a hell of a hand and should really do well in her new role of working with female talents.

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We noted before that Jeff Jarrett was recently in the UK to negotiate a Global Force Wrestling TV deal and will be returning this fall for more talks. The Wrestling Observer notes that Jarrett is closer to finalizing a deal in the UK than anywhere else.

Regarding the GFW Texas live events being postponed that we noted earlier this week, while Jarrett will be in the UK, the real reason for the shows being delayed is a combination of weak ticket advances plus the fact that WWE and NXT are running in the same markets the weekend before.

As of this writing, GFW only has the October 23rd Las Vegas TV tapings and the two UK live events on the schedule. The Observer noted that after those events, GFW is in a similar situation as TNA and Lucha Underground as moving forward depends on the ability to secure a paying TV deal.
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Wednesday's episode of Ring of Honor on Destination America drew 138,000 viewers. This is down from last week's 144,000 viewers.

This week's TNA Impact Wrestling on Destination America at 9pm EST drew 353,000 viewers. This is up from last week's 335,000 viewers. The midnight replay drew 96,000 viewers, up from last week's 85,000. TNA drew a total of 449,000 viewers this week, up from last week's total of 420,000.
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Destination America's internal schedule has been set through Thursday 10/8 and as of now, Impact Wrestling is airing every week through Wednesday 10/7.

If and when we hear of additional updates on the series, we will update, but the series will continue on the cable network through at least 10/3.

Small update to TNA's status with Destination America in terms of tv time left. International tv deals TNA had are already starting to drop.

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Some other sheet news includes:
  • New episode of Botchamania was recently released. https://vimeo.com/138784235
  • Smackdown's rating and viewership for this week managed to slightly improve from last week's all-time low. Around 60,000 more people watched this week.
  • Young Bucks debunked rumors of them recently signing a deal with the WWE. Original source claimed they were going to wrestling at next month's NXT special and signed a long term deal with the WWE.
  • WWE had a recent article on their official website on a behind-the-scenes look on the making of Seth Rollins' statue. http://www.wwe.com/inside/seth-rolli...reation-photos

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 11:01 PM

Has anyone watched much of the Back to the Territories series? I've heard good things, but haven't seen one yet.

Simple Fan 09-11-2015 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4702326)
The WWE World Heavyweight Championship's prestige hasn't increased since the World Heavyweight Championship's retirement.

To me it has. Its the top title in the promotion and if another world title were to be introduced that would clutter things up and 2 people would be claiming to be the top guy.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 11:11 PM

I feel the US Title is more prestigious right now.

Simple Fan 09-11-2015 11:17 PM

And thats the problem if another world title is introduced. There's always going to be people that feel one is better than the other. The US title has been booked great this year but its always going to be a secondary title.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 11:30 PM

That's the same with any title in the world though.

Simple Fan 09-11-2015 11:36 PM

I was just talking about in the "WWE Universe", how much sense does it make to have 2 World champions in WWE ?

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2015 11:49 PM

It does if there's two separate promotions under the WWE umbrella. But it doesn't if there's one brand.

The CyNick 09-12-2015 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4702326)
The WWE World Heavyweight Championship's prestige hasn't increased since the World Heavyweight Championship's retirement.

I disagree

The CyNick 09-12-2015 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4702346)
It does if there's two separate promotions under the WWE umbrella. But it doesn't if there's one brand.

2 brands just comes off as being fake.

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2015 01:24 AM

It depends how you execute it.

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2015 01:24 AM

The WWE have achieved it just fine with the main roster and NXT.

Simple Fan 09-12-2015 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4702346)
It does if there's two separate promotions under the WWE umbrella. But it doesn't if there's one brand.

Two seperate promotions is cool but Raw will always be the top show. So Smackdown should just become the place for guys not yet ready for the main roster but to seasond for NXT.

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2015 01:53 AM

That's one way to do it. Another way is to give it to someone with a great past of heating things up -- whether that be a Paul Heyman or a Ryan Ward -- and they handle it and try and take it to a reputable level of its own.

Lock Jaw 09-12-2015 12:11 PM

Had a dream that Jason Jordan and Chad Gable were called up as Team Swagger, and they all had sweet matching track-suits....

Innovator 09-12-2015 12:28 PM

So your dreaming of them to fail?

Lock Jaw 09-12-2015 12:53 PM

In the dream Swagger was suddenly a main event player again....

Anybody Thrilla 09-12-2015 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4702060)
They started "brawling"/"cat fighting" and the ref tried to break it up but couldn't..... Team BAD and the rest of PCB and a bunch of other refs came to break it up as well...

But Paige and Sasha kept breaking free to take shots at each other... Thought that part was "cool", but the initial "brawl" looked too much like the "stereotypical" "cat fight"....

Right, but it was in the middle of a fucking match. Why was the ref trying to break it up? There hadn't even been a decision yet.

Lock Jaw 09-12-2015 02:09 PM

He just wanted to get in the middle of that sandwich

Lock Jaw 09-12-2015 02:27 PM

http://i.imgur.com/JyZu8Ze.png

Anybody Thrilla 09-12-2015 02:56 PM

Eva Marie is so hot, but she is so not good at wrestling.

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2015 08:08 PM

Eva Marie looks like she was designed by video game programmers. I mean that in a good way.

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2015 08:09 PM

You know, if Eva Marie surrounded herself by a gang of women who could help her believably win matches, she could be female wrestling's Ric Flair. No, not in terms of talent, but in presentation and character.

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2015 08:09 PM

When Kurt Angle's contract expires, I'd like to see him as the coach to Jordan & Gable.

Droford 09-12-2015 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4702522)
You know, if Eva Marie surrounded herself by a gang of women who could help her believably win matches, she could be female wrestling's Ric Flair. No, not in terms of talent, but in presentation and character.

The un-nature girl

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2015 08:27 PM

There is way to use "Unnatural" to enhance her someway.

Tom Guycott 09-12-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4702457)
Eva Marie is so hot, but she is so not good at wrestling.

I agree with half of this. Specifically the second half.

She doesn't do it for me. Looks too "fake". And I don't mean her funbags in particular, just... period. She looks like if you build a CAW with exaggerated features and colors and put them in a match with a fully scanned and rendered selection from the roster... and somehow made this possible in real life. I find Maryse way better looking, and many can attest to, I was never one on *that* bandwagon of drooling over her either.

But that is subjective. What's objective is that she is an utter shitshow between the ropes, and needs to be far away from a widely viewed wrestling ring for a good long time unless they just transition her into a simple arm charm.

Tom Guycott 09-12-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4702360)
2 brands just comes off as being fake.

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4702363)
The WWE have achieved it just fine with the main roster and NXT.

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4702364)
Two seperate promotions is cool but Raw will always be the top show. So Smackdown should just become the place for guys not yet ready for the main roster but to seasond for NXT.

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4702370)
That's one way to do it. Another way is to give it to someone with a great past of heating things up -- whether that be a Paul Heyman or a Ryan Ward -- and they handle it and try and take it to a reputable level of its own.

Yeah, there was a time when Smackdown became the "can't miss" show, and RAW was same shit different week, and the championship that was on SD (remember, at one point they swapped the WWE and "big gold belt" as THE championship of the show).

The belts are only as prestigious as they are presented to be. Doesn't matter if there are 3 or 12, if they lack ANY focus, or are handled like shit, they fall off. Look how long it took for the Tag Team titles to go from worthless props back to *some* prominence in the last decade. In spite of how toy-like it looks making people sneer at it, the Divas Championship often becomes a joke because most of the women who hold it can't wrestle well, and the women who CAN wrestle well aren't put anywhere near it.

Tom Guycott 09-12-2015 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4702522)
You know, if Eva Marie surrounded herself by a gang of women who could help her believably win matches, she could be female wrestling's Ric Flair. No, not in terms of talent, but in presentation and character.

Fuck that. Just scrap this whole "Team (blank)" nonsense, and put the 4 Horsewomen together on the main roster. Yes, even with Bayley holding the NXT Women's Championship.

Frank Drebin 09-12-2015 11:02 PM

Eva Marie is fucking magic. Look at the sweet moves during her entrance just before the bell rings.

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She was just about to do YMCA for the crowd, but like a great heel - just teased it. Can't wait for the TPWW servers to break when she beats Bayley clean for the title.

DAMN iNATOR 09-13-2015 02:43 AM

Well, that is IF she ever improves enough to the point of deserving to be anywhere NEAR the NXT Women's Championship contenders scene.

Also, I agree with Guycott on Eva's looks; she's not ugly really, she just doesn't do anything for me. The implants and the stupid bright red hair don't help matters, either.

Disturbed316 09-13-2015 02:52 AM

I can see why some people like her look, doesn't do anything for me personally.

GD 09-13-2015 05:17 AM

Eva Marie makes Kelly Kelly look like a ring general.

ron the dial 09-13-2015 06:12 AM

Eva Marie is not attractive to me AT ALL. She is worthless imo

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-13-2015 07:36 AM

All Plastic Everything.

Droford 09-13-2015 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 4702568)
Eva Marie is fucking magic. Look at the sweet moves during her entrance just before the bell rings.

SPOILER: show
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She was just about to do YMCA for the crowd, but like a great heel - just teased it. Can't wait for the TPWW servers to break when she beats Bayley clean for the title.

I'm relatively sure she won't win the title from Bayley

Black Widow 09-13-2015 12:10 PM

I must be the only one that thinks she can pass as Caitlyn Jenner's twin.

Jura 09-13-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4702605)
Eva Marie makes Kelly Kelly look like a ring general.

I was just thinking about her. What they are trying to do with Eva is what maybe I think they did with Kelly Kelly and I think she actually improved a lot in her title run against Beth Phoenix. I think they also did it with Layla after Michelle retired and you could see Layla improved right before winning the title. The only difference is that they were successes and Eva so far is not. I feel like she's really not comfortable in the ring and in front of the crowd. She needs to pull out a Rock-esque heel post "die Rocky die" chants.

Damian Rey 09-13-2015 01:37 PM

They need to keep her off tv. Why they don't see value in letting her work matches with the same girls but in an environment where there's no pressure to entertain is beyond me. They're forcing her into the ring way too early.

What's sad is she's actually improved quite a bit but because she was so atrocious to start with even her improved self isn't very good. Also doesn't help that she doesn't seem any bit athletic at all.

They should just get her off tv asap and let her work matches off camera for a long time.

Frank Drebin 09-13-2015 01:52 PM

Just wait until she busts out a series of suplexes and submissions capped off by a springboard shooting star press. All while on her period.

All Red Everything.

DAMN iNATOR 09-13-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4702626)
I'm relatively sure she won't win the title from Bayley

Yeah, that's DEFINITELY not happening. Only thing she needs to win is a one-way ticket permanently out of WWE.

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