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It's the most iconic title in the DC Comics canon. When the original Action Comics #1 debuted in 1938, it featured the first appearance of Superman and is regarded as the first superhero comic. It's also the most expensive--last year, #1 commanded $1 million on the auction block. On Sept. 7, DC Comics will launch the revamped Action Comics, written by veteran comics auteur Grant Morrison--hot off his lauded new book, Supergods. Morrison has the superhuman task of reinventing one of the comic world's--and popular culture's--biggest characters for the 21st century, and, in the process, trying to write a new chapter for the struggling comic book publishing industry. "I felt the weight of history with this one," says Morrison in his soft-spoken Glaswegian lilt. "I wanted to do something that was as much a part of these times as when (Action Comics) first came out. Superman has always been the champion of the oppressed. I wanted to move away from the standard superhero tales and in the direction of folk tales in the vein of a Paul Bunyan." In the revised version, featuring art by Rags Morales (penciling), Rick Bryant (inking), Brad Anderson (color) and Patrick Brosseau (lettering), Morrison pares down the convoluted narrative that began overshadowing the Superman myth. "It had become a pro-wrestling contest between characters-- who was stronger, faster, bigger," he says. "I wanted to evoke a more universal human Superman, who was less of a costumed figure representing patriotic authority, and more about struggles on the street." The exclusive page 18 panel shown above is the first major shot of the Man of Steel transitioning to alter ego Clark Kent--sans his trademark horn-rimmed glasses--after thwarting trouble in Metropolis. Superman's fighting crime, of course, but the authorities are suspicious of his powers. He's misunderstood. He's different. The Action Comics overhaul is part of DC's 52-title, issue 1, day-and-date publishing reboot that kicks off Aug. 31 with Justice League by writer/DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns and artist/DC Comics Co-Publisher Jim Lee. The remaining titles will be released throughout September as a way to combat an overall trend in waning comic book sales and attract a new generation of readers through modernized characters and storylines. The first six issues of the new Action Comics delve into the origin and evolution of Superman's costume from a makeshift blue jeans and "S-emblem" T-shirt to the blue bodysuit, redesigned by Jim Lee and the source of much fanboy hand-wringing. The one constant is the red cape: "It came with him from his home planet and is indestructible," says Morrison. "No one's depicted it as a security blanket before, protecting him from all harm. It gives it a fairytale feel, before his powers fully develop." For all of his current enthusiasm, Morrison was initially apprehensive about taking on the assignment when DC Comics Co-Publisher Dan DiDio called at the beginning of this year. "I wasn't too sure about it," he says. "I was already doing Batman. But I had some ideas about Superman's early years that I'd never had a chance to use. He's initially more of a blue collar, rough-and-ready character who has to grapple with developing superpowers and what it means to be Superman. He's the son of brilliant scientists from this other planet, but he grew up baling hay and working in a convenience store, which is where he gets his morals." Just as the first Action Comics premiered against the backdrop of the Great Depression, imminent technological advancements like television, and the rise of Nazi Germany, Morrison wanted to tap the zeitgeist of current economic and global turbulence, as well as infuse his foreigner's perspective of America to into Clark Kent's alien acclimation to humans. "I'm definitely aware of the current atmosphere, and have addressed that, not in drawing from the headlines, but symbolically dealing with combating a sense of existential terror," says Morrison. "Sometimes a perspective from the outside enables you to see the best of what America has to offer." Serendipitously, Morrison's work on his memoir/cultural history of superheroes, Supergods: What Masked Vigilantes, Miraculous Mutants, and a Sun God from Smallville Can Teach Us About Being Human (Spiegel & Grau), helped codify Morrison's thoughts on Superman. "The original Action Comics is a piece of art in its own right and way ahead of its time," says Morrison. "It helped me to use the concept of superhero to change the idea about self and culture from doom and pessimism to hope and possibility." |
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So Superman is basically Spider-Man now (fighting street-level bad guys, misunderstood by the authorities, bitches and moans about how his powers make him different), only with a security blankie for a cape. No thank you.
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First reviews for JLA are coming in. They tend to be generally positive. Some disappointment since the media hyped it up so much but in general appears to be a decent read.
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lol reminds me of Spider-Man.
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I like it. Sorta addresses my issues with the lack of yellow. Also seems like a reserved Micheal Turner variant, which is A-OK to me.
I like the suit. |
Well, fuck. I really wish they'd stop fucking with certain costumes "just because". Like, I can understand with X-Men because they change costumes all the time, but fucking hell, Green Lantern, Superman and Spider-Man have iconic costumes. Leave them alone, plz. [/rant]
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Compared to GL and Spidey, Superman lucked out. Spidey looks weird and GL was a fucking mess.
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I just don't know. I'm going to reserve total judgment until I see it on film. But I still hold to my original sentiment that removing the red underwear is an unnecessary change. I'm also not a big fan of the look of his "belt" either, considering it doesn't even connect all the way around and isn't actually doing anything other than being a design element.
Again, I'm sure it will look awesome on screen, but right now, I'm in the "WTF" group at Snyder's decision to change the suit so drastically. |
damn a jacked superman in film
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Yeah, impressive... form.
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That costume looks stupid.
Eveything in the last few pages of this thread looks stupid, in fact. |
your not being very fun there captain
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You're not being very reavantist.
Whatever that is. |
yawn
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Captain Planet could take Superman.
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Please I could beat Captain Planet.
Not just because he is a fictional character, but all is what I would need to do is literally throw my trash at him. He wouldn't stand a chance. |
That pretty much how it is for Superman and kryptonite.
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Yeah, but it's a lot easier to find litter than Kryptonite.
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They sell them at the supermarkets these days.
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Terrible
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The Dark Knight Rises is probably gonna run laps around The Avengers box office wise, but sometimes I wonder what could have been if WB was happy with Superman Returns and Green Lantern wasn't a hack job and Joss Whedon got to do Wonder Woman. We'd probably have a proper Justice League by now, even earlier than Avengers.
And screw that mess they tried to pull years ago. That's not how team-ups work. |
Superman: Ribbed for Her Pleasure!
Also, Clark's giant crotch bulge now really emphasizes the need to put a pair of shorts over that thing; he seriously looks naked without them. And what's the point of having a belt buckle if you don't actually have a belt to go with it? It's like they realized they need something in that region to break up the monotone blue tights, but couldn't bring themselves to put the trunks or belt back on, so they tacked on a non-fucntional belt buckle as a placeholder. Oh, and while I'm at it, he's got Wonder Woman bracelets now, and the whole suit has the texture of a golf ball. Your new hero, ladies and gentlemen. |
He's also got a bad haircut. :shifty:
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They had a live Justice League movie in the works a few years back.
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Are you talking about this one? :rofl:
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No, more recent attempt.
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I know. I was just messing.
The new one sounded like an epic clusterfuck. Just..was being terribly planned. Glad it flunked to be honest. |
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Batman sounds like his All Star counterpart.
Don't know why they didn't just expand that universe. |
I read it, it was alright.
Everyone seemed like an arsehole though. |
I've read a lot of DC comics over the years, but I'm certainly now expert when it comes to the Distinguished Competition: don't DC do stuff like this every few years? Reboots? Some kinda 'Crisis' etc? 'Starting over'? That kinda thing...
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Not this drastic.
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I can't wait to get my copy, I know you don't like the way he's writing him, but remember this is still an early, naive Supes... and I love Morrison so I know I'll dig it.
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Just a note, not a reply to anybody in particular:
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Got the chance to read some of the DC books..
Liked JLA..it is interesting. While the hardcore fans of Superman are angry, I kinda like what they are doing with the character. Perhaps it will evolve as some have pointed out. I feel like he was given the "edge" he was always missing to me. |
That's the whole fucking point of Superman. He's not an angry 'badass' character like everyone else. He doesn't break in, insult people, and threaten them with his death-ray eyes. He's the guy you can actually trust, the guy you want leading the team because you know he's going to do the right thing.
I guess I should reserve judgment til I actually read it, but the idea of him just being Batman with a different costume really, really annoys me. DCnU's got too much Batman as it is. |
Don't get me wrong, I understand why people like the old Superman the way he was. To me tho, that is not enough. I don't believe that there is "good guys" for the sake of being good. I am interested to see where the character goes. Who knows, maybe at this point he is just "immature".
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I get the point that it is a young and brash Supes in Action Comics, but still... For Action Comics #1... for any kids just getting into it... their first impression of Superman should not be dark and gritty.
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Maybe the regular Superman title will be more like the Clark we know? We'll see. |
Okay, so my morbid curiosity finally got the better of me. Rather than just take other people's word for it, I went out and actually grabbed a copy of Action 1. After what Lock Jaw said, I went in fully expecting to hate it.
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Interesting story:
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/r.../news/?a=46098 Religious comic store owners are boycotting Action Comics #1. |
lol, "GD" could mean anything. Out of all the 'blasphemous ' stuff other comics tend to have, this is nothing. This is just a gimmick to get their store a 'plug'.
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I thought it was just him grunting.
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Ranking the First Week:
1) Animal Man 2) Batgirl 3) Justice League International 4) Detective Comics 5) Swamp Thing 6) Batwing 7) Action Comics 8) Justice League 9) Stormwatch 10) Green Arrow 11) Hawk and Dove 12) Static Shock 13) O.M.A.C. 14) Men of War |
I can see several of this week's titles being cancelled pretty quickly.
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Animal Man was definitely the best of the ones I read (Action, Stormwatch, JLI, JL, Detective)
I've read really good things about Swamp Thing so I'm probably going to pick that up. I do like Scott Snyder, his Detective Comics was great and am looking forward to his new run on Batman. |
Lock Jaw "Reviews" The New 52
Week #2 Superboy #1 SPOILER: show Batman and Robin #1 SPOILER: show Deathstroke #1 SPOILER: show Frankenstein - Agent of S.H.A.D.E. #1 SPOILER: show Suicide Squad #1 SPOILER: show Resurrection Man #1 SPOILER: show Legion Lost #1 SPOILER: show Green Lantern #1 SPOILER: show Red Lanterns #1 SPOILER: show Grifter #1 SPOILER: show Done for now. |
And now the second opinions from NM:
Batman and Robin- SPOILER: show Superboy- SPOILER: show Batwoman- SPOILER: show Deathstroke- SPOILER: show Green Lantern- SPOILER: show Red Lanterns- SPOILER: show Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E.- SPOILER: show Demon Knights- SPOILER: show Legion Lost- SPOILER: show Grifter- SPOILER: show Mr. Terrific- SPOILER: show Resurrection Man- SPOILER: show Suicide Squad- SPOILER: show All in all, Week 2 of the New 52 was pretty weak compared to Week 1. A lot of comics that just felt unnecessary, and comics that expect you to have read everything leading up to the 'reboot' to understand what's going on (which, again, is counterintuitive to the whole premise of the new universe) Some surprisingly good books in it, that I'm sure will be sleeper hits, but overall I felt a lot of what came out this week was just padding. |
I don't understand how some character continuities changed and others haven't. How does that work?
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A wizard did it.
Or some lady in a red cloak who appeared in Flashpoint #5, and has thus far appeared in every New 52 comic somewhere lurking in the background of a panel. |
Not to be a dick, but isn't this thread supposed to be about DC "movie" news? Not DC Comic book news? \\
Just saying. |
I think that ship sailed about 40 pages ago
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I second Lock Jaw's Mission To Change The Thread Names.
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DC Comics Thread
Marvel Comics Thread 4yrs strong. |
As the original poster, can you not change the thread title?
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Not after this long. You can change titles for a few days after you start a thread than it's locked. Only a mod can change them at any time, and TPWW mods are suspect.
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Week 2 Rankings
1) Green Lantern (Feel like this shouldn't count though) 2) Resurrection Man 3) Demon Knights 4) Batwoman 5) Mister Terrific 6) Red Lanterns 7) Batman and Robin 8) Deathstroke 9) Frankenstein - Agent of S.H.A.D.E. 10) Superboy 11) Legion Lost 12) Suicide Squad 13) Grifter |
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Nah, I think I'll be saying what I want, sorry. And while you're here, care to queue up those new titles from #1866?
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Please and thank you.
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You're welcome.
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LOL
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Not sure I feel comfortable posting in this thread anymore.
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Way ahead of ya.
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LOL at the new thread title..
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Slightly back on topic (the DC Comics part, not the Kalyx Likes Penis part)......is anyone else starting to think the DCU has way too many shadowy organizations? I mean, you've got Cadmus, N.O.W.H.E.R.E., S.H.A.D.E., Amanda Waller and whoever's behind the Suicide Squad, that Briggs guy and the UN cabal running the JLI....just seems like they could really stand to trim it down to just one or two big ones. I mean, Marvel pretty much can trace everything back to SHIELD, and that's worked pretty well for them.
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Don't forget Stormwatch, which seems to be entirely based on the premise of a shadowy organization.
But yeah, even the pre-Flashpoint DC Universe seemed to have this problem. They had the Department of Meta-Human Affairs (DMA), the Department of Extranormal Operations (DEO), S.H.A.D.E., and Checkmate.... who all pretty much did the same thing. Well, Checkmate did it on an international level, so it can be excused. The other three seemed redundant, though. C'mon American government, how many organizations do you need that do the same thing? |
Beautiful. I clearly have a lot of moderating to learn :'(
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This is how it's done.
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So how about this Kalyx dude?
I hear he likes dicks. |
Apparently there was a John Stewart cameo by Nick Jones Jr. for Green Lantern filmed but it got cut. Fucking appalled at how much they dropped the ball with the Green Lantern film.
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Hopefully, in about 5 years time, Warner pulls a Marvel and reboots Green Lantern all together ala Hulk.
I was super excited at the idea of the movie, until I read reviews. |
Nowhere Man takes on the New 52, Week 3!!!!
Batman: SPOILER: show Birds of Prey: SPOILER: show Blue Beetle: SPOILER: show Captain Atom: SPOILER: show Catwoman: SPOILER: show Green Lantern Corps: SPOILER: show Legion of Super-Heroes: SPOILER: show Nightwing: SPOILER: show Red Hood And The Outlaws: SPOILER: show Supergirl: SPOILER: show Wonder Woman: SPOILER: show |
Lock Jaw Reviews The New 52 Week #3
Birds of Prey #1 SPOILER: show Catwoman #1 SPOILER: show Green Lantern Corps #1 SPOILER: show Nightwing #1 SPOILER: show Wonder Woman #1 SPOILER: show Batman #1 SPOILER: show Blue Beetle #1 SPOILER: show Captain Atom #1 SPOILER: show DC Universe Presents #1 SPOILER: show Legion of Super-Heroes #1 SPOILER: show Supergirl #1 SPOILER: show Red Hood and The Outlaws #1 SPOILER: show |
Week #3 Rankings:
1) Nightwing 2) DC Universe Presents 3) Green Lantern Corps 4) Supergirl 5) Batman 6) Blue Beetle 7) Wonder Woman 8) Captain Atom 9) Catwoman 10) Birds of Prey 11) Legion of Super-Heroes 12) Red Hood and The Outlaws |
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TOWER OF BABEL? I FUCKING LOVE IT!:y:
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Pretty much a DCAU reunion.
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I'm brand new to comics. I have some friends that are real heavy into them. I picked up a bunch of the new 52, some at their suggestion and others that looked interesting. I will give you my opinions a la Lock Jaw. Don't be pretentious bastards to me:
Action Comics #1 SPOILER: show Legion Lost #1 SPOILER: show Detective Comics #1 SPOILER: show Red Lanterns #1 SPOILER: show Animal Man #1 SPOILER: show Demon Knights #1 SPOILER: show I also got some other books but they aren't DC books. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 & #2 SPOILER: show Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates #1 SPOILER: show Haven't read Batman #1 yet. I probably will tomorrow. |
Do Ultimates commentary in the Marvel Movie thread. Good post.
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Rather interesting article regarding some of the more, ahem, "liberated" heroines of the New 52, particularly Catwoman and Starfire:
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/0...-superheroine/ |
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Sums it up nicely
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I actually enjoyed Red Hood, it was entertaining. Besides the Teen Titans cartoon wasn't Starfire was always a bit 'slutty' just not as blunt? The whole Starfire 'controversy' didn't do much for me. I just read her scenes and went on with the book. Thought that kid taking pics was pretty funny. It just sucks that she has 'no memory', that's pretty lame. Either way, I liked how Jason planned the rescue for Roy and the action scenes are what this book entertaining to me.
I probably read around like 10 books from the 52 and this was pretty enjoyable. Not the best, but entertaining. |
Starfire was fairly g-rated in the cartoon, if anything you got more fan-service from miss goth onesie (her clothes even got 'ravaged' in a particularly good episode). The difference between her and DCnU Starfire are alarming. Even if the book isn't aimed at kids, some consideration for past characterization should have been taken. I mean, classic ongoing Starfire was also dressed slutty, but shades of her cartoon personality were still present. This Starfire is a blatant sex-addicted whore (I dig it, but I don't have that much stock in her anyway).
That panel with Batman and Catwoman makes me more uncomfortable if anything. |
I read the stuff and went on with my life. I didn't find out about the "controversy" until I came online and saw all the bitching. I can see why people are "offended" but I personally don't give a shit. Straight and honest answer.
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