Madison Rayne and Josh Matthews got married

If I can win like $200 tomorrow playing blackjack I'm buying a front row ticket to Raw in baltimore on monday as I see one is available in the far corner by the ramp.

Sasha's Rachet Becky's Clank

sign idea..would need art and I can't draw so..ugh

Between Madison Rayne and Rue DeBona, Josh Mathews has had a pretty good run...

Salt n Peppa, one of my favorite Wrestlemania acts of all time!!

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

Kinda want that street sign lol

In the long run they should. Its fine for Hall and Nash to have early success. But WCW should have booked to be the cooler brand and win out in the end. They did it the other way and it killed the brand ultimately.

It made sense if you are telling the Sting comes to WWE finally and conquers one of their biggest stars of all time. I dont think that story is good for businrss

That may be how you see it, but if you actually watched how WWE built up the match leading up to Mania, there was a tie in with the Monday Night Wars and how Sting was the last hold out from WCW.

No doubt he picked the fight because of the abuse of power, but in the WWE Universe, Sting was there to v settle an old WCW vs WWE score. Hence why nWo were willing to put their differences aside to help Sting.

Within the realm of that storyline, HHH had to go over. And it's not even debatable in my mind.

the choice to make that the storyline was fucking dumb and unnecessary

Yeah it was terrible. My amount of potential fucks given went from 0.5 to 0 instantly once that was established.

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Is clear they are building to a rift.

If they didn't go heavy on the Monday Night Wars slant to the Mania angle, then sure you COULD have gone that route. But it becomes a different story to the one they seem to be telling with Rollins and HHH.

Hunter is not just some random heel manager. He's one of the top guys in WWE history. The story to me seems to be one of the father who has accomplished so much that the bar he set is almost too high to jump over. Seth had to slowly jump over each bar. At some point the father gets pissed that he's being passed and turns on him.

To me the angle has more legs if Rollins beats Sting clear AFTER already facing John Cena. I don't think Sting is the guy you want to go to the wall with and say Hunter can't beat. But if Rollins can cut a promo and say I beat Sting on my own and after fighting John Cena, that gives him his small notch on the belt over HHH. Its a subtle dig, but not strong enough to light the fuse to ignite the fight.

I don't think there's much chance Rollins drops the title to Sting. More likely is Sheamus walks out of Night of Champions with the belt. But my prediction is that happens in the Network Garden special.

Either way, the storyline is roughly the same. You just think it makes sense to have HHH JOB to Sting. I think that's a gross waste of a Hunter JOB. Hunter should be putting over Rollins at some point. That means more the stronger HHH is going into that match. Sting is irrelevant in the big picture.

Do you think Sting is a bigger star than Triple H?

PWI 2015 500
1 Seth Rollins
2 John Cena
3 A.J. Styles
4 Roman Reigns
5 Shinsuke Namakura
6 Randy Orton
7 Jay Briscoe
8 Alexander Rusev
9 Alberto El Patrón
10 Kevin Owens
11 Hiroshi Tanahashi
12 Dolph Ziggler
13 Dean Ambrose
14 Daniel Bryan
15 Adrian Neville
16 Prince Puma (Ricochet)
17 Jay Lethal
18 Bobby Lashley
19 Minoru Suzuki
20 King Barrett
21 Bray Wyatt
22 Bobby Roode
23 Sami Zayn
24 Luke Harper
25 Kurt Angle

How is Bryan so high for basically wrestling about what..3 matches in the past 15 months

Been reading about the explanations and the biggest criteria seems to be titles held and standing in a company. He's barely wrestled or been on tv within the past year but arguably still the WWE's #2/#3 top star so that gives him a huge advantage for the list making.

Rollins goes ahead of Cena because WWE title > US title since both guys tie on #1 status as heel and face. Same for Reigns being #4 because he's still in the grooming spot as the next mega star.

Everything else like matches done, feuds, wrestling skills, charisma/gimmick, etc seems to be more of tie breaker stuff.

Seems Blue Pants has heat backstage. Time to renmae her Red Pants

People Bella Power.

Where is Finn Balor? Are they daft? He needs to be higher than most.

My Canary Islander ancestors didn't live and die to be turned into a John Cena Robot Hat Clip.

Mr. Data didn't live and die to become a John Cena hat clip.

Huh? Madison Rayne got married to some army guy 4 years ago. Are you sure about this?

Wikipedia says she divorced and now married Josh Matthews... and wikipedia never lies....

I guess the joke is on Michael Cole now.

Sting actually said "This isn't about WCW". Nice try.

Also, that storyline is dumb. Triple H vs. Sting does not need to about WWE vs. WCW in the first place. You don't bring in Sting to be WCW. You bring in Sting to be Sting.

And -- even if this was WWE vs. WCW -- the idea that you always need to put over WWE is also incorrect. You don't need to do that. Sometimes it actually helps to give he rub to the "invaders" or the new guys. The home team going over is one of those myths that a lot of people keep alive -- like long title reigns are automatically better than short title reigns.

I was listening to Kevin Sullivan talking about the WCW/New Japan program on his podcast, and the co-host, MSL, said "Obviously WCW had to go over, but..." and Sullivan actually revealed that he was more entertained by the idea of New Japan going over, because you could have build up a major Japanese star, kept the relationship with them strong, and at that point they were paying WCW $1,000,000 a year. Plus, it'd present WCW as underdogs. That's a good way to get the people behind you.

WWE own WCW. So there's not even proper logic behind protecting your own investments anymore. By dragging up WCW from the dead and kicking it back down, you are just shitting on your own intellectual property.

Sting actually said "this isn't about WCW" before WrestleMania then the match happened and it was.

Also, while Sting said "This isn't about WCW", all of the promo packages, and Triple H and Steph, all said it was about WCW.

Honestly? Yes. I had heard of him and read about him before becoming a wrestling fan. Triple H is established within the WWE paradigm. But don't worry -- if WCW had won the war and Triple H was finally signing with WCW and facing Sting at Starrcade, I'd be calling for Triple H to beat Sting too. It's about convincing your audience that this guy is/still is a big star.

<font color=goldenrod>It almost felt like Sting coming out and saying "This isn't about avenging WCW...that would be ridiculous at this point" made Vince realize that he totally COULD make it about WCW so he could remind everyone (once again) that he won the Monday Night War.</font>

So the babyface is a liar and the heels are soothsayers? Awesome.

Bingo.

I have no inside knowledge, of course, but the whole thing felt like Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn got their hands on the match, and produced it with no real knowledge about what WCW was about during the Attitude era, and had the face on the heel side and lose, because that's what a good heel does at WrestleMania. To the heel on the face side, of course.

Also, no idea how "Sting was there to settle an old WCW vs WWE score. Hence why nWo were willing to put their differences aside to help Sting." makes sense in that context.

Their differences with Sting were that they wanted to kill WCW and Sting was the face of WCW. So they're willing to put those differences aside to... help Sting/WCW defeat HHH/WWF?

That's why it had the mark of guys who weren't too informed of the WCW product.

I've tried to justify this in my mind. I've told myself that old enemies can become friends when they look back at all the money they made beating each other up. I told myself that it was about that specific era, and just where they happened to fall in the battle lines, and it was a nostalgic battle of pride. I've told myself that Sting wanted to avenge the Invasion loss, has been training for fourteen years and had no clue that the nWo were going to come out and help him.

It all falls short of what the desirable booking of that match was -- Sting showing up in the WWE for the first-time in history, and beating the living PISS out of Triple H. Fuck, Triple H let Ronda Rousey upstage him later in the show. He knows how to do that business. Look at the work he did for Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania XXX. He knew what his role was. This should have been a squash match before it was Triple H going over. Hell, I'd have suggested they do an Ultimate Warrior-esque "Pedigree has no effect" spot at some point during the match. Make the guy special.

But ideally, Triple H would have done his best Ric Flair tribute, gone after a leg, only for Sting to battle back and win. The classic story. Instead they threw gimmicks on top of the gimmicks, overbooked it, and Triple H didn't even look good for winning.

<font color=goldenrod>The nWo vs. DX shit was so over the top that I almost wondered if they were planning on doing something utterly ridiculous like a nWo vs. DX tag match at SummerSlam. In 2015. Instead the involvement from the 2 stables was never mentioned again.</font>

Triple H is one of the biggest heels in WWE history. Seth Rollins is now meant to be in this position. Doesn't it bother anyone else that they keep calling Seth Rollins "The Future" whilst he's holding the motherfuckin' World Heavyweight Championship? It's like someone telling Mike Tyson he was going to be something...in 1990. Man, that Ronda Rousey might one day be a great fighter, mightn't she?

The father that accomplished so much via villainy, with an ungrateful son that is trying to overtake him by surpassing his achievements -- relying mainly on his ability to cheat and kick people when they are down. OK. Do you see a problem here?

WHO THE FUCK IS THE BABYFACE?!?!?!

I agree with you that the best booking for Night of Champions is to have Rollins beat Cena AND Sting. It'd be something less crushing for Sting if he had beaten Triple H at WrestleMania, but never mind. Rollins has then earned stripes. Those people that boo him in the crowd? Well, now they have to look at Rollins and say "Wow, he just beat two legends in one night. Two legends that can still go..." Well, one legend that can still go, and another that has lost his only WWE match.

Sheamus cashing it at the end of this with Triple H (who would be at ringside trying to help Rollins cheat -- which he rejects, because he now wants to earn his place) counting the fall would be logical. This means that Seth loses the WWE World Heavyweight Title, but still gets to use the US Title as "The Symbol of Excellence" as John Cena described it.

Seth has a reason to be mad at Triple H; and people have a reason to think that Triple H is jealous of Rollins. This would be obvious if Sting had beaten Triple H and Rollins had beaten Sting. It then looks something like this:

Seth Rollins > Sting > Triple H

It also makes Rollins the clear babyface based on ability and a rejection of the system that has breast-fed him for too long. But as it stands right now, Triple H is being set-up for the face turn, with Sting and Cena pretty much saying "You suck, Seth, and these guys are the lesser evils."

Stop explaining things so rationally.

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Update on other people considered for the Sister Abigail character.

Pretty much a recurring trend with Sheamus and the WWE over-estimating his status with fans. Probably going to happen again when he cashes in where the WWE over-judges how much the crowd actually cares about Sheamus being in the spotlight again.

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Based on recent stuff said by Hogan trying to explain his use of the N word wasn't meant for hate or something.

Wacky Randy Orton story from back in the day.


Some other sheet news includes:

• Sting is currently planned as the October guest for Stone Cold's WWE Network podcast episode.
• WWE currently considering canning Los Matadores in favor of something new for Primo and Epico.
• Observer stated as a result of AAA's Triplemania debacle this year, they've pulled all future ppvs showings in the US and Canada.
• In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, Hogan has never officially beaten Sting in a match during his entire career. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...to_hulk_hogan/
• WWE.com had a recent interview with potential new signees Gargano & Ciampa. http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/john...w-nxt-27904408
• According to the Observer, FOX TV Studios is currently working on a tv drama based on pro wrestling.
• New edict from the WWE targets indie wrestlers and people interested in signing with them required to scrub their social media accounts of anything potentially bad before contacting the company. Direct result of the recent Zahra issue/scandal.
• Based on reports, Televisa and Lucha Underground are very close to a deal which would allow Season 2 of LU to be possible in its current form.

Man, they really have no clue where to go with Adam Rose, do they? At this point, I'd actually be in favor of him joining The Wyatt Family just to give him something to do.

The thing about Blue Pants being over isn't that she's over because she's pushed; but rather that she is pushed because she is over. They definitely should have her under contract though.

Good on Owens for managing to draw with Cena. They have good chemistry and an exciting dynamic. Owens is like the antithesis to Cena, which works on building a match. If you put Cena's face on a poster against Owens, the idea of them fighting is more intriguing than a lot of other guys on the roster fighting. I do think that an Owens Intercontinental Title run at this point is the right call for KO. I've got no clue what the long-term plan for Owens as IC Champion would be, but putting the title on the line against Sami Zayn on WrestleMania weekend somewhere sounds like a good bet.

Was rumored at one point of being a possible candidate for the new Wyatt member before going with the Strowman instead. WWE pretty much ruined or wasted the feel good momentum Rose had from the ESPN special on NXT.

Sheamus just doesn't click for whatever reason. I honestly believe that he's a guy that suffers from overexposure. Plus they have him talk too much. Going back to basics and having him show up every now and then to squash guys could help him re-capture the imaginations of people.

That being said, he has the briefcase now, so it makes sense to give him another run near the top. I imagine that he's basically going to be a transitional champion and serve as a vessel to move the belt to either Cena or Lesnar, but that's not a bad spot to have, and maybe he can make something of it?

I was against Rose joining at first, but Rose coming out now, sacrificing himself to a Wyatt beat-down and then being programmed by Wyatt to unleash the darkness inside him -- a darkness that might even surpass Wyatt's own -- is more interesting than them nerding Rose up. That being said, I haven't seen the new gimmick, so Rose might hit it out of the park. He's certainly a good performer when it comes to making these things work.

The problem with Rose's ESPN special momentum was that all the feel-goods from it had to then be channeled into a character played by the man, but isn't really representative of what they got behind. The Adam Rose gimmick is basically a Dionysian philanderer. How do you segue that into "Father of the Year?"

Typing that out, Titus O'Neil vs. Adam Rose -- Battle of the Mega-Dads -- could be a great early match on a PPV somewhere.

Yea what ever heat she is getting is undeserved. She was just an enhacment talent with a silly name that got over. Just seems like something high schoolish to be mad at Blue Pants for doing her job.

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The Colons are being wasted in that gimmick, but at least try and generate some interest with it. Go for the build to Masks vs. Masks with The Lucha Dragons. Even if the entire feud only takes place on SmackDown, it could still at least generate some heat for the reveal and some momentum behind Sin Cara & Kalisto.

Well, if they're going to bring those two back, they'd BETTER bring Carlito back too.

I'd actually like to see The Colons vs. The New Day.

I think we should all take the time to congratulate Jax Dane on becoming the new NWA World Heavyweight Rassling Champion in San Antonio this past week. He defeated Japanese legend Hiroyoshi Tenzan for the honor. I hope his first defense is against friend, former NWA World Tag Team Rassling Championship co-holder, and two-time World Heavyweight Champion, Rob Conway.

In other NWA Title news: This year the NWA officially recognized a title change that took place San Juan in 2005. 20-time WWC Universal Heavyweight Champion and 7-time IWA Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion, Ray Gonzalez defeated Jeff Jarrett to win his first (and only) NWA World Heavyweight Title. This now pushes Jeff Jarrett up to 10 career World Title reigns.

Also, either Nick Aldis, Shelton Benjamin or Eric Young will become the Global Force Wrestling Global Champion soon.

Eddie Colon is a former 5-time WWC Universal Heavyweight Champion; Orlando Colon has never won the belt.

Primo started wrestling six years before Epico, and is about three quarters of a year younger than him.

Did wwe also invent a time machine so they could can the gimmick two years ago?

Zoom.

Ok well were just too far apart in this one.

If you think Sting is a bigger star, I mean I don't know what to say.

I'll just say I feel there are more matches to be had from HHH (compared to Sting) that can draw big money - vs Rollins being one of them. And if HHH constantly loses these one off matches against a guy like Sting, his value gets reduced to very little. HHH needs to be as strong as possible for this Rollins-HHH angle to be maximized.

You're mixing fantasy and reality (all within the realm of a larger fantasy mind you).

In storyline in the Monday Night Wars nWo wanted to put WCW out of business. In reality nWo and Sting were on the same side of a war against WWE. The storyline for Mania was to play off the reality. Hence why Hall and Nash were helping Sting and not their buddy HHH. I don't think it's that complicated to understand.

You would squash HHH?

You want Sting to walk into WWE TV and run roughshot over one of their all time legends? For what payoff?

How many shows will Sting be a central part of vs HHH?

Honestly you gotta jump off Stings nuts. He's not that big of a star.

Its better for WWE long term of its Rollins >HHH>Sting. Which can easily be accomplished and get you to the same end point in the storyline.

You're clear hated for HHH is clouding you're judgement.

I don't hate Triple H. At all. A few of my current dream programs involve him. They just don't involve him winning and cutting the money-making potential off a guy.

Triple H has a history of WWE work to call upon. He's got the top heel card locked squarely sway in his pocket. Triple H could lose a match to Sting and still whip it out. Sting has now been diminished. You're hurting your babyfaces more than you're helping your heels.

You can get to Triple H vs. Seth Rollins in a "Sting beaters" feud, sure. But where does that leave Sting for the future performances you can get out of him? And you're basically having two top heels fight over who is the tougher man. It's counter-intuitive for a wrestling product. Neither guy is going to have the momentum to turn and not lose steam incredibly fast as a babyface.

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Who wants to buy a fat guy's sweaty shorts?

Quick! Only four days left!

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I think my ego would tell me that anyone buying my shorts would demand that I DIDN'T wash them.

I was having a shower and I just fantasy booked Main Event as its own brand for the space of a few months. Adam Rose, Fandango, The Miz, R-Truth, Jack Swagger, Heath Slater and Zack Ryder were the featured talent.

They can probably just spray it with any old person's scent and pass it off as "worn" though.

Probably be Aldis (Magnus) that wind it first. Be a better pick than Benjamin or Young in my opinion and if your going to be a global company a forigner as champ makes sense

The Miz is to good to be stuck on Main Event. Main Event can have Sandow.

You saying Paige smells like an old person?

Orton looks like a kid wearing his dad's jacket

So you finally sign a guy you've been clamoring to acquire for 14 years so that you can have rights to his likeness, sell a ton of merch and events he's featured in, and in his first match in your company, at the biggest show of the year, it's best for business to job him out in one of the few matches he'll ever wrestles your company? Over a barely part time wrestler who's essentially evolved into a high profile enhancement talent? Huh.

Who is that on the far right?

<font color=goldenrod>Mark Jindrak. He was originally meant to be in Evolution instead of Batista.</font>

Yeah, and instead he ended up getting saddled with a gimmick as the "Reflection of Perfection" and an overpowered (and way oversold) open-palmed "slap of death".

Always baffled me how anybody could think that gimmicks like that would get over and benefit a talent long term.

Same guy who thought the New Day initially would be over as fuck babyfaces?

<font color=goldenrod>After watching that segment, I am all in on the Cosmic Wasteland.</font>

Yep best thing the Ascension has been given since moving to the main roster. Hopefully Stardust rubs off some of his charisma on them. They could also use some better face paint to.

Are talking about him cutting off Sting? Do you really think a Sting win would have made a big difference in the number of people that order WWE network in September vs the number who will order now based on current events?

The babyface in the WWE vs WCW storyline was really Triple H.

But that aside, what big Sting matches did a loss to HHH prevent?

HHH and Batista were both heels. One of them turned so they could have a feud. It was a pretty big money maker. You assume the same would be planned here.

Again this passion for a guy who will maybe wrestle 3 more times is very confusing to me. Sting isn't The Rock, he's just a guy. His value is minuscule no matter what they do with him booking wise.