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Lock Jaw 09-01-2015 01:20 AM

I enjoy puns.... always feel like it is a wasted opportunity when people say "no pun intended".... people should strive to make as many puns as they can in the time they have on this planet...

Sepholio 09-01-2015 01:20 AM

LOL STD gave me my first neg rep in years because I don't like Seth Rollins. What a petty little bitch lmao. Probably still mad I whooped his candy ass in KoTF.

U MAD BRO? ;)

Droford 09-01-2015 09:43 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...th_the_two_of/

Probably the best possible outcome of the Rusev/Ziggler feud at this point.

Evil Vito 09-01-2015 09:52 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Charlotte is on the market? WOOOOOOO!</font> :shifty:

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 09:58 AM

Can't believe how terrible this Dolph/Rusev/Lana/Summer stuff is.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:21 AM

WWE needs more Cesaro in a Suit.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:22 AM

Cesaro will also get a trillion times more over if he learns to do the upside-down bump ala Ray Stevens. In a suit.

Black Widow 09-01-2015 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4697486)
Bad pun. :n:

Your avi isn't much better.


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Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4697500)
Well Aj Lee's is a shit poster what the hell do you want? And this coming from a shit poster

A random stranger on the internet doesn't like me:'(

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:24 AM

This bullshit with Nikki Bella going for the Divas Title record should really have AJ Lee coming back and ending the reign. In a mask. As Spider Lady.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:25 AM

When is Zeb Colter going to return to the WWE and start slapping Jack Swagger and making him win matches?

Innovator 09-01-2015 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4697631)
This bullshit with Nikki Bella going for the Divas Title record should really have AJ Lee coming back and ending the reign. In a mask. As Spider Lady.

I love how they're pushing that she's going for the record but hasn't defended it on a long ass time

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:42 AM

Oddly enough, I've been reading some stats on the reign. Nikki has actually defended the Divas Title more than AJ did. :-\

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:42 AM

AJ went like 70 days without defending it.

Innovator 09-01-2015 11:00 AM

There also wasn't a giant spotlight on her breaking a record

Evil Vito 09-01-2015 12:39 PM

<font color=goldenrod>It does amuse me that they're going to this length to have her break a pretty meaningless record just because Vince or whoever thinks it will upset AJ and therefore possibly upset Punk by osmosis. I guarantee they do not give one iota of a shit.

Seriously if the longest reigning Divas champ were anybody else...WWE never would have even acknowledged it, and Nikki probably would have dropped it to one of the new girls at Battleground if not earlier.</font>

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-01-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4697649)
AJ went like 70 days without defending it.

Nikki hasn't defended since Japan which was pretty much a house show title defense. MITB is the last time she defended with a chance of her losing it. That's 79 days.

Lock Jaw 09-01-2015 12:45 PM

Just find it ridiculous how Saxon on Raw was all "oh! Can Nikki Bella make history, or is Charlotte going to change all that?!"

When Charlotte's title shot is set for after Nikki breaks the record.

Big Vic 09-01-2015 12:47 PM

If they were doing it to piss off punk the probably would have ended her first reign sooner or not give her the title 2 more times in the first place.

It probably has to do with filming of total divas honestly.

Big Vic 09-01-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4697738)
Just find it ridiculous how Saxon on Raw was all "oh! Can Nikki Bella make history, or is Charlotte going to change all that?!"

When Charlotte's title shot is set for after Nikki breaks the record.

Does Charlotte get the shot at NOC or is it like next week?

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-01-2015 12:48 PM

If they were going to try to piss off Punk they should probably know that he doesn't give a fuck.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-01-2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4697741)
Does Charlotte get the shot at NOC or is it like next week?

NOC.

Mercenary 09-01-2015 02:39 PM

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Pipers theme with lyrics

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-01-2015 03:05 PM

Piper's theme is Scotland the Brave. Band might have used some of it.

Cool King 09-01-2015 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4697855)
Piper's theme is Scotland the Brave. Band might have used some of it.

No it's not.

Well, it probably was in TNA, but I would say that Piper had two well known themes in the WWE. One of them was "The Bonnie Lass o' Fyvie" and the other was "The Green Hills Of Tyrol".

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Jura 09-01-2015 03:30 PM

With Ziggler's new outfit I'm getting a Mr. Perfect, HBK and Bret Hart vibe from him.

road doggy dogg 09-01-2015 03:42 PM

Wrestling legend Jimmy 'Superfly' Snuka charged in girlfriend's 1983 death

Jura 09-01-2015 04:13 PM

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Jura 09-01-2015 04:20 PM

Surfer Sting, Crow Sting, Joker Sting, Wolf pac Sting and now the elusive Military Sting:

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SlickyTrickyDamon 09-01-2015 04:29 PM

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Maybe all bagpipe music sounds the same but he used this in WWE.

Cool King 09-01-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4697918)
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Maybe all bagpipe music sounds the same but he used this in WWE.

When did he use that?

I can't recall him ever using "Scotland The Brave" as his entrance theme, but maybe I'm forgetting.

Was it in the 80's, 90's or when he returned in 2003?

Cool King 09-01-2015 04:41 PM

And no, not all bagpipe music sounds the same.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-01-2015 04:42 PM

The War to Settle the Score.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-01-2015 04:42 PM

Its on his wiki too.

Cool King 09-01-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4697925)
The War to Settle the Score.

I had a feeling you would be talking about one of his entrances with a pipe band.

I don't really think that would count as an entrance theme, as it's a special entrance so it would be a special one off theme, I'm assuming.

That's sort of like claiming that one of Cena's entrance themes is this, as he used it during his special entrance at WrestleMania 22.

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I don't know though. When it comes to special entrance themes, it's up to the individual if they consider it an official theme or not. :-\

For me, it's not official.

Savio 09-01-2015 06:07 PM

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Damian Rey 09-01-2015 06:10 PM

Love JR sometimes.

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4697647)
Oddly enough, I've been reading some stats on the reign. Nikki has actually defended the Divas Title more than AJ did. :-\

Think that got debunked or was found out to be missing some info that made it skew pro-Nikki. Only thing that was true at the time was length between title matches.

The real breakdown with house shows and overall matches stuff missing which skews in AJ's favor as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._nikki_bellas/


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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4697740)
It probably has to do with filming of total divas honestly.

Very likely since its been rumored before the Bellas managed to get Vince/Creative to drop the Total Divas restriction for the belt. Had to do with Vince not wanting storylines to get all messed up which is why the Total Divas stuff never involved the belt and was always dropped whenever the show took a seasonal break.

Cool King 09-01-2015 07:43 PM

It's most likely just me that thinks this, but I don't think the Diva's division will ever truly be taken seriously like it was between late 2001 and late 2006, for as long as Total Divas is around.

In my opinion, during that five year period, the Diva's division was at its best. You could tell that a lot of care, thought and attention was being put into it, and it did help that the majority of the division, actually, probably all of it, was comprised of women who could actually wrestle and cared a hell of a lot about wrestling.

These days, I can't help but think that Total Divas is just this ugly mark on the Diva's division. It's just there, being all tacky and such. I can't help but think that it's the main focus for some of the Divas and the writers, and that the Diva's division comes second, and that the division's main purpose now is to give a reason to advertise Total Divas.

I just think that if Total Divas goes away, then maybe the Diva's division would be taken more seriously, as it wouldn't have a reality show challenging it for attention.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 07:44 PM

I haven't cared for Nikki's reign, but let's not pretend AJ Lee's was crash-hot either.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4698008)
It's most likely just me that thinks this, but I don't think the Diva's division will ever truly be taken seriously like it was between late 2001 and late 2006, for as long as Total Divas is around.

In my opinion, during that five year period, the Diva's division was at its best. You could tell that a lot of care, thought and attention was being put into it, and it did help that the majority of the division, actually, probably all of it, was comprised of women who could actually wrestle and cared a hell of a lot about wrestling.

These days, I can't help but think that Total Divas is just this ugly mark on the Diva's division. It's just there, being all tacky and such. I can't help but think that it's the main focus for some of the Divas and the writers, and that the Diva's division comes second, and that the division's main purpose now is to give a reason to advertise Total Divas.

I just think that if Total Divas goes away, then maybe the Diva's division would be taken more seriously, as it wouldn't have a reality show challenging it for attention.

I think that's a fair point to raise. I was watching RAW and got the message that they wanted Paige, Charlotte & Becky Lynch to be taken seriously as female athletes, but then Lana got into a brawl with Summer Rae and spent most of the time with her skirt around her chest. What sort of consistent message is being sent?

Rammsteinmad 09-01-2015 07:53 PM

I haven't cared about the divas division since forever, anyway.

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2015 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4698008)
It's most likely just me that thinks this, but I don't think the Diva's division will ever truly be taken seriously like it was between late 2001 and late 2006, for as long as Total Divas is around.

In my opinion, during that five year period, the Diva's division was at its best. You could tell that a lot of care, thought and attention was being put into it, and it did help that the majority of the division, actually, probably all of it, was comprised of women who could actually wrestle and cared a hell of a lot about wrestling.

These days, I can't help but think that Total Divas is just this ugly mark on the Diva's division. It's just there, being all tacky and such. I can't help but think that it's the main focus for some of the Divas and the writers, and that the Diva's division comes second, and that the division's main purpose now is to give a reason to advertise Total Divas.

I just think that if Total Divas goes away, then maybe the Diva's division would be taken more seriously, as it wouldn't have a reality show challenging it for attention.

Probably not happening until the Bellas leave since its been teased in the past the show was their idea and just a platform for them to dominate the division.

Divas belt needs to go as well since that's also tied into Total Divas now and part of the stuff people want changed with the division. Should have started or been teased when Madusa/Blayze symbolically removed the classic Women's belt from the trash at the Hall of Fame. Could easily have set up a unification match at Night of Champs by now or tease its return as the prize for winning.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 08:28 PM

Whoever beats Nikki should call themselves the new Women's Champion. That won't happen, because the WWE loves the branding too much.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 08:29 PM

I still think that The Bellas and Alicia Fox being exiled from RAW and needing to survive on NXT would be a pretty interesting storyline that could really up their game and get them towards a position where they could be more important to the company.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 08:37 PM

Someone backstage reportedly claims that Bayley is "ungodly over." Like top star worthy.

Simple Fan 09-01-2015 08:45 PM

They need to bring 3 former women champions back and have Team Woman. Lita, Mickie James and Gail Kim would do and have them refuse to wrestle for the Divas title and they have a triple threat to crown a new WWE World Women's Champion.

Mercenary 09-01-2015 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4698055)
They need to bring 3 former women champions back and have Team Woman. Lita, Mickie James and Gail Kim would do and have them refuse to wrestle for the Divas title and they have a triple threat to crown a new WWE World Women's Champion.

Gail wont be back. She hates VKM

Simple Fan 09-01-2015 09:09 PM

To bad because she could do wonders for the Divas division.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 09:13 PM

That would be a good angle. You want this thing to have heat, have a female talent take direct issue with Vince McMahon on his perception of female athletes over the years.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 09:14 PM

Gail Kim would be PERFECT for it.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 09:15 PM

I've been thinking about the WWE's business plan for the WWE Network. Do you think the WWE have done the right things with it so far? Did they launch it too early, with too much content? Not enough?

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2015 09:44 PM

Dirtsheets sponsored by Evil Emma Bella:
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According to an email received by Bryan Alvarez on Thursday night, a long-time WWE employee believes that Bayley is “so ungodly over, especially with little girls,” that if she were to start granting wishes through Make-A-Wish, “she will destroy John Cena.”

Bayley’s T-Shirt is also the highest selling diva merchandise at the moment beating out all of The Bella Twins merchandise.
Lead to a long article by F4W about the real key to the Divas Revolution might not be the three that got called up for the Revolution storyline but instead Bayley if the goal is to change the perception of women's wrestling in WWE. For some comparisons about current merch sales, the Bellas have around 89 items to buy while the other Divas combined are around 69 items (think Bayley has around 4).

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Originally Posted by F4W
WWE has shown that it cannot properly execute a “revolution,” but perhaps it’s not too late to change the way it views and treats women. A major (and necessary) alteration would be to reevaluate just to whom they are trying to appeal. If the answer is young girls, then having Bayley at the forefront of the division is as good a place to start as any. With the right approach, she can and will sell t-shirts and wristbands by the truckload.

http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-t...le-face-of-wwe

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Originally Posted by Observer
We noted before that Becky Lynch vs. Emma vs. Charlotte vs. Dana Brooke at the WWE NXT TV tapings held before "Takeover: Brooklyn" saw the finish botched as Charlotte was supposed to win but Emma won. All four Divas and referee Drake Wuertz were all worried when they got backstage but there was no heat on them. Wuertz was assured that it's his job to count the pinfalls no matter what and he did the right thing. The Divas were said to be very upset after the match, especially Becky.

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Originally Posted by Observer
As noted, former WWE NXT star CJ Parker is headed to New Japan Pro Wrestling as Juice Robinson. This comes after Parker announced on Twitter that he was retiring but was just referring to that CJ Parker character. Apparently WWE Performance Center coach Matt Bloom (Tensai, Jason Albert) helped Parker get the NJPW job when he decided to leave WWE. Parker is set to be pushed in NJPW's junior heavyweight division along with Matt Sydal, the former Evan Bourne.

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Originally Posted by F4W
On a related note, Hulk Hogan's status as a WWE Hall of Famer has been speculated on since WWE scrubbed him from their history when the racist comments scandal broke this summer. Even though Hogan is not listed in the Hall of Fame on WWE's website, word is that they have not made a decision yet on whether or not he is officially in the Hall.

Supposedly the WWE rejected a recent plea/apology by Hogan to get his status reinstated within the WWE.

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Originally Posted by PWI
Internally, WWE sent out word that absolutely no one should comment about the incident yesterday at the WWE Performance Center publicly via social media or if they are asked. WWE wants any information to come from the local authorities.

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Phillymag.com reports that the city of Philadelphia has submitted a bid to host WWE's WrestleMania 34 in 2018. The city is reportedly looking at hosting the event at Lincoln Financial Field with RAW and NXT held at the Wells Fargo Center and the WrestleMania Axxess held at the Pennsylvania Convention Center.
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Ring of Honor has announced that former WWE, WCW and ECW star Stevie Richards will be making his ROH debut against current ROH World & Television Champion Jay Lethal on Saturday, September 26th in Lockport, NY.
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Recently on WOOOOO! Nation with Ric Flair, "the Nature Boy" spoke with "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. During the interview, Flair and Austin discussed Triple H vs. Sting from WrestleMania 31 and went on to talk about who in the WWE may be a great new opponent for Sting.

With respect to the WrestleMania 31 match between Triple H and Sting, Austin said he could not believe that WWE brought Sting in only for Triple H to beat him.

"I thought, 'man, you bring Sting in here and you beat him?' Man, do something where it looks like you're going to do the screwjob, but then something happens and [Sting] goes over on Triple H, who we all love," Austin said. "If you're going to bring Sting in, put him over."

"I didn't like that, myself," Flair added.

Flair said he would have liked to have seen Sting wrestle Kane at WrestleMania 31 instead of Triple H and went on to say that Kevin Owens should be Sting's opponent at WrestleMania 32.

"Now that I've seen this other kid, Kevin Owens, Kevin Owens who is a legitimate heel would be a great opponent for [Sting] in Dallas," Flair said. "Owens has enough steam on him now and he actually is a heel."
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On a recent edition of Wooo! Nation, WWE Hall of Famer Ric Flair did confirm that Bray Wyatt's sister Mika Rotunda was trying out for a spot in the WWE. However, Flair noted that she was trying out as a ring announcer, not a wrestler.
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There were rumblings within TNA last week about more employees being paid late but apparently the company has been catching those people up this week. These delays were blamed on the TNA legal department and the payroll department moving from Texas to Nashville. Both departments were previously housed with TNA parent company Panda Energy in Texas but they are now moving to Nashville with the rest of the TNA offices. Apparently payroll was just moved from Nashville to Texas earlier this year and it's already moving back. This could be a sign that Panda is pushing TNA away or that TNA is moving away from Panda on their own.

Article by PWI has more details about the internal changes going on with TNA at the moment: http://pwinsider.com/article/96314/i...n-tna.html?p=1

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:00 PM

I worry that if they jam Bayley down throats, she's just going to wear as thin as John Cena though. Presentation is really important when it comes to top faces, and you have to feel like they are achieving everything they are getting on their own. Keep Bayley on NXT until main crowds are chanting "WE WANT BAYLEY!" at the top of their lungs. In the meantime, have her seriously tested in NXT by her former trainer, Sara Amato. There's a huge emotional arc to exploit there. After that, move Bayley onto Sarah Stock (or whatever they want her WWE ring name to be) before they move her completely behind the scenes. Then bring in Rosita as Sarah's prize student to succeed where her mentor had failed. In the meantime, show Kanna in the audience watching all the matches.

I dunno -- just take your time with Bayley.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:01 PM

The more time that passes between it and now, the less I can justify Triple H going over Sting at WrestleMania 31. The same can be said for Cena vs. Wyatt at WrestleMania XXX. And even Wyatt vs. Taker at Mania 31.

#1-norm-fan 09-01-2015 10:15 PM

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We noted before that Becky Lynch vs. Emma vs. Charlotte vs. Dana Brooke at the WWE NXT TV tapings held before "Takeover: Brooklyn" saw the finish botched as Charlotte was supposed to win but Emma won. All four Divas and referee Drake Wuertz were all worried when they got backstage but there was no heat on them. Wuertz was assured that it's his job to count the pinfalls no matter what and he did the right thing. The Divas were said to be very upset after the match, especially Becky.
Wasn't there a Smackdown match a few weeks ago where Charlotte was supposed to win against Naomi but didn't kick out in time? She's gotta fix that...

#1-norm-fan 09-01-2015 10:19 PM

Also, Kane would have been a perfect opponent for Sting at WrestleMania last year if the story wasn't set up from the start so that it HAD to be Triple H. Kane's a guy you could use to put Sting over without fucking up his credibility. He's in a "solid" position to where he's not REALLY a jobber but he's also doesn't really have a "future" that needs to be protected.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:29 PM

Triple H vs. Sting was the right call, but it was the wrong finish. The start of the match was great, but they lost it in the overbooking. Sting looks good, Triple H cheats a little and beats down Sting. Cue Sting comeback, Triple H begs off, uses heel shenanigans to make a comeback. Maybe there's one Pedigree and Sting kicks out. Triple H punches referee, goes to get the sledgehammer. Triple H goes to nail Sting, but he gets a baseball bat instead. Scorpion Death Drop, new referee down...1-2-3.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:29 PM

Kevin Owens vs. Sting would be amazing actually. Or Owens & someone vs. Sting & Sami Zayn.

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2015 10:31 PM

Observer speculated the stuff involving Ziggler yesterday on RAW might be based on a real life incident involving someone in Creative. Mostly because of how odd it came off on tv and the feeling this wasn't something planned for the feud but someone seeing their chance to vent a bit with the twist.

Believes Ziggler was representing the real life guy trying to explain his side of the story or him doing nothing wrong.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:33 PM

HA! It came off more to me like the WWE trying to capture the sizzling aspects of the Attitude era, but not really knowing how to keep it PG at the same time. These alleged adults come off as really childish as a result, and it severs their connections with audiences.

Although I did laugh at Summer saying "...And this is when I realized Dolph was trying to seduce me..."

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2015 10:34 PM

Seriously, can't these four people just want to fight each other?

Droford 09-02-2015 02:03 AM

Rusev and Dolph have to become a tag team and ditch the women

#1-norm-fan 09-02-2015 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4698092)
Triple H vs. Sting was the right call, but it was the wrong finish. The start of the match was great, but they lost it in the overbooking. Sting looks good, Triple H cheats a little and beats down Sting. Cue Sting comeback, Triple H begs off, uses heel shenanigans to make a comeback. Maybe there's one Pedigree and Sting kicks out. Triple H punches referee, goes to get the sledgehammer. Triple H goes to nail Sting, but he gets a baseball bat instead. Scorpion Death Drop, new referee down...1-2-3.

Looking back, there was no way Triple H wasn't gonna put himself over in that match. That's why I think maybe going in another direction with someone who has enough of a name to where it's not a COMPLETELY lopsided match but also doesn't stand to lose much from jobbing to STING would have been a better call.

Big Vic 09-02-2015 09:39 AM

Should have been Sting vs Rollins at mania, Orton vs HHH. Have the old guy put over the new guy, Piss break during Orton vs HHH, Orton finally gets a singles win over HHH.

The CyNick 09-02-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4698092)
Triple H vs. Sting was the right call, but it was the wrong finish. The start of the match was great, but they lost it in the overbooking. Sting looks good, Triple H cheats a little and beats down Sting. Cue Sting comeback, Triple H begs off, uses heel shenanigans to make a comeback. Maybe there's one Pedigree and Sting kicks out. Triple H punches referee, goes to get the sledgehammer. Triple H goes to nail Sting, but he gets a baseball bat instead. Scorpion Death Drop, new referee down...1-2-3.

Sometimes people miss the bigger picture.

The way WWE told the HHH v Sting story was this was the Monday Night Wars revisited and come back to life. This was done in part to sell one of the major features of the WWE Network. Which is the #1 priority for WWE through the rest of the decade.

Plus Kane isn't on the same level as HHH star power wise. Kane v Sting would have come off as far less of a high profile match. Would have been a good Survivor Series match, not a featured fight at Mania.

Back to the Monday Night Wars. Anytime you do something that pits the WWE brand vs the WCW brand, the WWE brand should always win. WWE should never be in the business of making those 3 letters inferior to any other brand. No matter who currenyly owns the other brands. It's just poor brand management to create a story where WCW rises from the ashes and beats WWE.

The angle also set up this current Sting storyline which plays into the larger and more important angle of Rollins v HHH. Rollins now has another challenge to face to prove his worth to HHH. Another thing that HHH already did that Rollins has to live up to. He's constantly trying to step out of the shadow that HHH casts as a mentor and a boss.

Sting winning would have been a nice moment for Sting, but HHH is the weekly character. Sting is going to have maybe 2-3 more matches in his WWE run. Putting over Sting would have been a mistake because there is no long term gain. Good on WWE to see the bigger picture.

Big Vic 09-02-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4698326)
WWE should never be in the business of making those 3 letters inferior to any other brand. No matter who currenyly owns the other brands. It's just poor brand management to create a story where WCW rises from the ashes and beats WWE.

I disagree the only time WCW had success was when it had the 2 WWF guys come over and make all the WCW stars look like fools against them.

Also, the feud should not have been about WWE vs WCW. Sting himself said that was stupid

Gerard 09-02-2015 02:51 PM

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Unusual to see Andre having to run the gauntlet so to speak to get to the ring. :wtf:

The CyNick 09-02-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4698361)
I disagree the only time WCW had success was when it had the 2 WWF guys come over and make all the WCW stars look like fools against them.

Also, the feud should not have been about WWE vs WCW. Sting himself said that was stupid

The NWO literally makes the point I'm talking about WCW was careless with their brand image. NWO was cool WCW was uncool. They made a one night attempt to rebrand (they should have gone all the way with that) and then got cold feet because of one rating. They went on to devalue the NWO brand making it less cool than it was. But they did damage so much damage to the WCW brand it hurt them down the line

The storyline that should have been used fir Sting v HHH is up for debate. Point is they went with the Monday Night Wars angle to have a high profile way to promote an important aspect of the Network. Given the storyline idea they came up with, the outcome was the right one.

Big Vic 09-02-2015 04:00 PM

But if WCW had Nash and Hall job on their way in because "WCW has to look better than the WWF" then the nWo would have just be a miniscule footnote on the story of WCW. Not the ratings winner.

The CyNick 09-02-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4698422)
But if WCW had Nash and Hall job on their way in because "WCW has to look better than the WWF" then the nWo would have just be a miniscule footnote on the story of WCW. Not the ratings winner.

Was Sting planning to start a 5 year run on the road with WWE or was he there for 1 or 2 shots? Do you now see how your comparison makes no sense?

Big Vic 09-02-2015 04:21 PM

I'm not talking about stings case I'm talking about how you said "Brand A should always look better than Brand B if they are owned by Brand A"

Big Vic 09-02-2015 04:24 PM

In the case of Sting vs HHH its a wash, Sting winning made more sense storyline wise since after the match HHH seemed to drift away anyways.

However the is still more money to be made out of HHH than there is to be made out of Sting.

Financially it makes sense for HHH to go over.

Emperor Smeat 09-02-2015 06:10 PM

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SlickyTrickyDamon 09-02-2015 06:11 PM

kickout at 2?

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4698326)
Sometimes people miss the bigger picture.

The way WWE told the HHH v Sting story was this was the Monday Night Wars revisited and come back to life. This was done in part to sell one of the major features of the WWE Network. Which is the #1 priority for WWE through the rest of the decade.

Plus Kane isn't on the same level as HHH star power wise. Kane v Sting would have come off as far less of a high profile match. Would have been a good Survivor Series match, not a featured fight at Mania.

Back to the Monday Night Wars. Anytime you do something that pits the WWE brand vs the WCW brand, the WWE brand should always win. WWE should never be in the business of making those 3 letters inferior to any other brand. No matter who currenyly owns the other brands. It's just poor brand management to create a story where WCW rises from the ashes and beats WWE.

The angle also set up this current Sting storyline which plays into the larger and more important angle of Rollins v HHH. Rollins now has another challenge to face to prove his worth to HHH. Another thing that HHH already did that Rollins has to live up to. He's constantly trying to step out of the shadow that HHH casts as a mentor and a boss.

Sting winning would have been a nice moment for Sting, but HHH is the weekly character. Sting is going to have maybe 2-3 more matches in his WWE run. Putting over Sting would have been a mistake because there is no long term gain. Good on WWE to see the bigger picture.

Except they're now using Sting in a title match. Whoops.

Also, Sting vs. Triple H should NEVER have been about WCW vs. WWE. Why the fuck would Sting come to fight for WCW's pride and honor FOURTEEN YEARS after the company has sank? He clearly showed up because he had a problem with the abuse of power The Authority was wielding. At least, that should have been the reason he came back.

They also ran the nWo out there who were Sting's mortal enemies. Trust me, I've tried to rationalize this like you have, but it's just too much work and glossing over history to try and sell history. It was bad. Then Triple H came out in a suit later for a promo in the middle of the ring. Great war, dude.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2015 09:27 PM

Ric Flair has also come out and said he was not a fan of it.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2015 09:28 PM

The money may not be in Sting working every PPV -- but there would be more mystique, more credibility and more excitement behind every performance he didn't lose his first match and then shake hands with the guy he apparently started a war with.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2015 09:28 PM

Jim Cornette has also come out and said he was not a fan of it.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2015 09:29 PM

I'm sure Hiroshi Tanahashi was not a fan of it.

Emperor Smeat 09-02-2015 09:31 PM

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According to this week’s episode of the WOOOOO! Nation podcast, Ric Flair stated that Bray Wyatt is currently dealing with a shoulder injury. Wyatt’s in ring time has been limited as of late, but he did work a dark match at Tuesday’s SmackDown tapings. WWE has not commented on Wyatt’s status.
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I noted last week that 4-6 new talents were expected to start at the WWE Performance Center this month or next month. Two of those talents were waiting to pass physicals and have been talked about a lot online lately - Biff Busick and Rich Swann. Word now is that they are indeed signed to the company and expected to start in October. The whole "waiting for physicals" story may have just been a ruse put out.

WWE is also looking for Latino referees and New Jersey indie talent Bandido Jr. has either signed already or is very close to signing with the company. He will be working as a referee.

Regarding the other indie talents expected to start with WWE soon, I was told that top stars Johnny Gargano, Drew Gulak and Chuck Taylor are about to sign deals.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Apparently there was a push within WWE at one point for Roman Reigns to be on the cover of the upcoming WWE 2K16 video game. However, there was a feeling that Steve Austin would mean more for the game when it came to promoting it, so they went with him.

2K Sports sources noted to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter that John Cena is the best out of any other WWE talent when they have them do the unscripted old-school style interviews with bullet points. They also said the Superstar who can hang with Cena on the old-school promos is Xavier Woods.

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The Monday, August 31 edition of WWE Raw did the best numbers for the show since June 15 of this year -- likely due a boost coming from the buzz created by the show the previous Monday.

The show did 3.89 million viewers, up 170,000 from the show the day after SummerSlam. The audience stayed relatively steady throughout the show.

The three hours were:
* 8 p.m. 3.87 million viewers
* 9 p.m. 3.99 million viewers
* 10 p.m. 3.83 million viewers
Probably the last good rating and viewership show for the rest of the year now that football season starts next week.

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For the first time in American history, a company sold out an NBA arena three straight nights when WWE was at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn last week. They announced 15,589 fans for NXT "Takeover: Brooklyn", 15,702 fans for SummerSlam and 15,597 fans for RAW. It should be noted that the arena was set up for just 13,438 fans. There could have been more seats released at the last minute but not more than a few hundred. WWE usually adds around 2,000 to their public attendance announcements and word is that there were actually a little over 13,000 fans in attendance each night.

Probably the one time the WWE didn't need to actually fib the numbers since they had already legit broke a record.


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Lock Jaw 09-02-2015 09:32 PM

Didn't Sting say he was fighting Triple H because he didn't respect him and thought he was a power-hungry megalomaniac who needed to be stopped (while everyone else ignored his stated reasons and said it was because of WCW vs WWE)

But now he is all respecting Triple H, and pretty much James Steeling him...

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2015 09:32 PM

Imagine the heat Triple H/Seth Rollins tension they are trying to build would have if Rollins was trying to beat the guy that beat Triple H? As it stands, Rollins NEEDS to beat a guy that Triple H beat in order to be as good as the guy who stands around in a suit, even though he's meant to be the fucking champion.

They could have had Seth Rollins beat Sting, causing an insecure rift to develop between Triple H and Seth Rollins -- leading to Triple H turning on his prodigy and having clearly defined face/heel lines. As it stands, if Seth loses the World Title to Sting and Triple H and Stephanie McMahon drop him, how does Seth really have any sympathy or credibility?

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2015 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4698609)
Didn't Sting say he was fighting Triple H because he didn't respect him and thought he was a power-hungry megalomaniac who needed to be stopped (while everyone else ignored his stated reasons and said it was because of WCW vs WWE)

But now he is all respecting Triple H, and pretty much James Steeling him...

Yeah, but let's forget that to tell a story about the nWo vs. DX...because that will apparently sell the Network.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2015 09:36 PM

I love you CyNick, sorry; but I just refuse to accept Triple H going over was the right choice. And I don't blame Triple H. His NXT guys had the sense to put Jushin Liger over Tyler Breeze. Reports say that it was Sting's wish, but someone needed to tell that dude to shut the fuck up and make some money. Be humble when you're against a young guy in a few months.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2015 09:37 PM

Pleasantly surprised, and pleased, to learn that Xavier Woods might be the second best true promo in the company.

Lock Jaw 09-02-2015 10:17 PM

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Lock Jaw 09-02-2015 10:25 PM

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Vastardikai 09-02-2015 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4698649)

I thought he was Bill Kazmeier's love child with Eugene.

Hanso Amore 09-03-2015 12:05 AM

Let strauman kill everyone and then bring in the mountain to challenge him in hoss fest 2016

Emperor Smeat 09-03-2015 12:16 AM

Current card for the special MSG show on the Network next month:

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* Brock Lesnar vs. Big Show

* WWE World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins vs. John Cena with just the WWE United States Title on the line

* Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jericho (changed from Owens vs. Cesaro)

* Rusev vs. Dolph Ziggler

* Sheamus vs. Randy Orton

* Appearances by The Dudley Boyz, Mark Henry, The New Day, Team Bella, Stardust and others

Jura 09-03-2015 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4698609)
Didn't Sting say he was fighting Triple H because he didn't respect him and thought he was a power-hungry megalomaniac who needed to be stopped (while everyone else ignored his stated reasons and said it was because of WCW vs WWE)

But now he is all respecting Triple H, and pretty much James Steeling him...

Supposedly Sting was just playing mind games with Rollins to put a bigger wedge between him and HHH and I guess the rumors of Rollins vs HHH in the future could be true.

Lock Jaw 09-03-2015 12:47 AM

Apparently John Laurinitis now engaged to Mom Bella.....

Jura 09-03-2015 12:48 AM

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Lock Jaw 09-03-2015 12:49 AM

Nice family they found....

Jura 09-03-2015 12:51 AM

Looks like Dean is picturing himself having a family with Renee.

NormanSmiley 09-03-2015 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4698692)
Current card for the special MSG show on the Network next month:


So basically summerslam on repeat

Lock Jaw 09-03-2015 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4698702)
Apparently John Laurinitis now engaged to Mom Bella.....

Needs to be an angle with Big Johnny coming back to TV and behaving like 50s/60s sitcom dad to Daniel Bryan and John Cena.....

Lock Jaw 09-03-2015 01:01 AM

Can start calling Cena "Little Johnny" or "John Junior".

"Now Little Johnny, I told you... no title shot until you clean your locker room, mister! Maybe afterwards we can go play some catch, would you like that, sport?"

Simple Fan 09-03-2015 01:03 AM

rad jonny jon

Droford 09-03-2015 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4698713)
Can start calling Cena "Little Johnny" or "John Junior".

"Now Little Johnny, I told you... no title shot until you clean your locker room, mister! Maybe afterwards we can go play some catch, would you like that, sport?"

With special guest appearance by little Jimmy


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