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Cool King 08-27-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4695092)
On the UK tour they're doing a NXT Takeover live I'd assume it'll be like 3pm east coast

I really hope that they're using that live broadcast as a way to test the waters for broadcasting PPV's live from the UK.

What I would give to go to WrestleMania or SummerSlam if it was live in the UK.

Cool King 08-27-2015 03:34 PM

Hell, any live PPV would suit me fine actually.

Gerard 08-27-2015 04:06 PM

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loopydate 08-27-2015 05:52 PM

Saw Josh Mathews at Kroger last night. Confirmed via Twitter.

NormanSmiley 08-27-2015 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4694484)
where is fan?!?!


Sucking dick downtown in back alleys like the true bitchboy he is

Mercenary 08-27-2015 07:38 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 08-27-2015 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 4694947)
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First one has me wondering...

Some of those sound like mixed/half-truths, but the last one takes me to a podcast I was listening to yesterday between Court Bauer, Alex Greenfield and Andrew Goldstein (writers during the 2006-2007) period.

Apparently Vince was borderline obsessed with the idea of making Finlay the World Heavyweight Champion on the SmackDown brand, winning the title from King Booker at SummerSlam 2006. And there were solid plans in place for The Undertaker to beat Batista for the World Heavyweight Title at WrestleMania 23, only for Mr. Kennedy to cash in his Money in the Bank briefcase he'd win (presumably earlier that night), and become the World Heavyweight Champion, which he'd end up dropping to Bobby Lashley to kick off the Era of Lashley on SmackDown.

#1-norm-fan 08-27-2015 08:54 PM

Can you imagine if the streak had ended via MITB cash-in? Good God...

Emperor Smeat 08-27-2015 09:22 PM

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Ric Flair recently noted on his "Whoo! Nation" podcast that Randy Orton is looking to work a lighter WWE schedule going forward. Apparently Orton is looking for a schedule similar to the one Shawn Michaels worked at one time, where he would work for a while and then have a significant amount of time off
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In the latest Wrestling Observer Radio Meltzer said that Eva Marie is being set up to be the no.1 contender for Bayley's title.
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Regarding Monday's Miz TV segment with Charlotte, Becky Lynch and Paige, the segment was botched as the whole idea was to show tension between the three Divas and do a subtle tease of breaking them up as they all want a title shot against WWE Divas Champion Nikki Bella.

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When the crowd on RAW in Brooklyn turned on the women's match it wasn't the fault of the crowd nor the fault of the women, it was the way it was presented. In the promo to set up the match Nikki Bella actually said that wins and losses didn't matter and that these muti-diva matches are pointless. She said the only thing that mattered was the Diva's Title and how she will soon be the longest reigning Diva's Champ of all time. How can anyone be surprised or angry that the crowd gave up on the match that followed when they were flat out told before it started that it didn't matter? Furthermore how can we care about Nikki's long title reign when I doubt anyone even remember the last time she defended it?

I do remember both Sasha and Charlotte making Nikki tap out to win tag matches, a fact that wasn't focus on, nor did it earn them a title match. To get this thing over you have to completely overhaul the way in which it is presented, like they did in NXT. You must focus on each woman in turn with a constant focus on the Championship. Unfortunately because they also have to focus on and promote Total Divas, they have to focus on a large group of women, in particularly the Bellas, so this may be impossible. The Bellas have improved a ton over the last couple years and they are more than capable of having good matches, but in my opinion as long as they are being focused on, this will never feel new.
From part of a large article about Lance Storm's opinion about the problems with the Divas Revoltuion at the moment. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...ostcount=19275

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Originally Posted by Variety
About 5 million Dish Network subscribers lost access to 129 local TV stations operated by Sinclair Broadcast Group across the U.S. late Tuesday, in what amounts to the largest single TV blackout in history in terms of channels dropped.

According to PWI, a new deal was reached between the two companies after the FCC got involved although still a bit hit to ROH since only 79 stations returned back in the deal at the moment. Going to take a while before they get back all the markets.

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Bryan is so ridiculously honest to the point he openly criticized Vince McMahon's version of what the "it factor" is." He said he believes the "it factor" is the ability to make people care about you through your wrestling and praised Cesaro, saying that's his favorite wrestler in the U.S. to watch. He said his proudest match was with KENTA. He talked about how he liked being in ROH because ROH needed him to have big matches and help draw, while WWE doesn't need him.
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Emperor Smeat 08-28-2015 02:11 AM

Current official poster for Night of Champions:
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GD 08-28-2015 04:08 AM

Random nugget

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Bobholly138 08-28-2015 04:49 AM

After not having been to a show since May, a week from Friday hitting up two shows in two days.

First up is a VIP wrestling show in Arlington TX. Got Matt Sydal,ACH,and lot of other good indy guys on the card.

Then the next day is a show in Lula MS. With Jerry Lawler,Bill Dundee,Boogie Woogie Jimmy Valiant and Wrestling with Death's Derrick King.

Best part is I am getting into both shows for free.

Vastardikai 08-28-2015 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4695235)
Some of those sound like mixed/half-truths, but the last one takes me to a podcast I was listening to yesterday between Court Bauer, Alex Greenfield and Andrew Goldstein (writers during the 2006-2007) period.

Apparently Vince was borderline obsessed with the idea of making Finlay the World Heavyweight Champion on the SmackDown brand, winning the title from King Booker at SummerSlam 2006. And there were solid plans in place for The Undertaker to beat Batista for the World Heavyweight Title at WrestleMania 23, only for Mr. Kennedy to cash in his Money in the Bank briefcase he'd win (presumably earlier that night), and become the World Heavyweight Champion, which he'd end up dropping to Bobby Lashley to kick off the Era of Lashley on SmackDown.

I can honestly say that I would have been in favor of a World Heavyweight Title run for Finlay. He would have made it work. Especially if we got a defense against Regal.

Rammsteinmad 08-28-2015 09:25 AM

Wish Sting would cut his hair short. It always gets all fluffy and puffs out ridiculously.

Damian Rey 08-28-2015 12:34 PM

Problem is it'd be unlikely to grow back. I was stunned to see how bad he is at Wrestlemania. I'd prefer he just get hair plugs like Jimmy Hart. Bald Sting would be weird.

Cool King 08-28-2015 02:45 PM

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I highly doubt that Paige is a WWE Legend.

Lock Jaw 08-28-2015 03:49 PM

She was a Tough Enough judge!

GD 08-28-2015 04:36 PM

She was at the epicenter of the "Divas Revolution".

Big Vic 08-28-2015 04:42 PM

She's really really white.

Rammsteinmad 08-28-2015 05:07 PM

She's overrated.

Lock Jaw 08-28-2015 05:08 PM

How dare you speak that way about a legend

Emperor Smeat 08-28-2015 05:17 PM

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SlickyTrickyDamon 08-28-2015 05:19 PM

I believe she calls that the Front View!

Lock Jaw 08-28-2015 05:25 PM

Who dat

Emperor Smeat 08-28-2015 05:36 PM

Athena who supposedly got hired recently by the WWE. Got trained by Booker T in his school. Probably won't show up until late September or early October since she has a few indie dates left.

http://prowrestling.wikia.com/wiki/Athena

GD 08-28-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4695547)
She's really really white.

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Rammsteinmad 08-28-2015 06:00 PM

That reminds me to ask, what's with these "Owen White" jokes constantly in Smackdown threads? I don't geddit.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-28-2015 06:05 PM

Looks alot like Naomi could come in as her sister.

Cool King 08-28-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4695562)
She's overrated.

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Heisenberg 08-28-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4695603)
That reminds me to ask, what's with these "Owen White" jokes constantly in Smackdown threads? I don't geddit.

It was spawned off everyone's boredom of Smackdown! at the time. Enter slik and Smelly

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Tropical storm Erika is currently brewing in the Caribbean and could have an impact on this weekend’s WWE live events in Florida as well as Monday’s RAW from Tampa, Florida. The storm is currently projected to peak on Monday with 75 mph winds hitting Sunshine State.

“There is growing concern that Erika will threaten Florida Sunday night into Monday,” according to AccuWeather Hurricane Expert Dan Kottlowski.

Meteorologists are expecting flash flooding and mudslides, which could have an impact on WWE RAW.
Could end up with another RAW from WWE HQ since a state of emergency was issued in Florida for the storm.

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We noted before that it was rumored in Japan that women's wrestler Kana, who appeared at ringside for NXT "Takeover: Brooklyn" and was called Kanna, signed with WWE a few weeks back. Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter noted today that Kanna indeed was signed two weeks ago.
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Wednesday's episode of Ring of Honor on Destination America drew 149,000 viewers. This is up a bit from last week's 145,000 viewers. This was the fifth 11pm EST airing as the network dropped their 8pm EST airing in July.

This week's TNA Impact Wrestling on Destination America at 9pm EST drew 279,000 viewers. This is down from last week's 323,000 viewers. The midnight replay drew 83,000 viewers, up from last week's 73,000. TNA drew a total of 362,000 viewers this week, down from last week's total of 396,000.
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Japanese wrestling legend Jushin “Thunder” Liger is expected to work more dates for WWE after making his debut for the company at NXT Takeover: Brooklyn this past weekend. According to the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter, an unnamed wrestling promoter attempted to book Liger for a few upcoming shows in the United States but was told WWE has already booked him for those dates.

On this week’s episode of NXT, Tyler Breeze said that he’s not done with Liger, another indication that we’ll be seeing him back in NXT soon.

It’s possible that Liger will be working for WWE & NXT with a deal similar to Samoa Joe’s, where he’s still able to wrestle for other promotions (mainly New Japan Pro Wrestling).
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Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2015 12:20 AM

I don't want to see the Hardcore Title come back. I think things are fine as they are.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2015 12:21 AM

Emma is so great. And Lance Storm is spot on with his RAW thoughts.

Evil Vito 08-29-2015 12:22 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Want to bang Evil Emma so badly.</font>

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2015 12:25 AM

I agree with former writer Alex Greenfield when he says the WWE could use another roster split. There is such an overexposure of certain talent and too many guys trying to kick down the door at once. They're trying to tell me that Sheamus is going to be a main event presence whilst Brock Lesnar, Seth Rollins, Sting and John Cena have everything there on lock-down.

As I was watching the guys come out for the 8-Man Tag on RAW, I thought to myself "All of these people could totally be sent exclusively to SmackDown". All of them. The ladies could be split into two as well. The Bellas, Alicia Fox, Paige, Emma & Nattie could handle RAW, while the new girls, Lana, Summer Rae, Naomi and Tamina could do fine on SmackDown.

Evil Vito 08-29-2015 12:27 AM

<font color=goldenrod>A dedicated brand split is about the only way I'll ever watch SmackDown with any regularity again.</font>

Savio 08-29-2015 12:27 AM

Evil Emma is wayyy sexier than regular Emma.

Lock Jaw 08-29-2015 12:55 AM

Where is Gertner? Feel like right about now he should come in a denounce Emma's looks.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2015 12:59 AM

She looks "real." Not like a Barbie. She's "girl next door" and that sort of stuff is in. I have a feeling that Emma would have no problem acting like a real fucking whore for a TV gimmick either. Not saying they should do that, but Risque Emma could be money.

DAMN iNATOR 08-29-2015 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4695521)
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I highly doubt that Paige is a WWE Legend.

Maybe not yet, but I don't think any male fan will argue that she's got one legendary body! :naughty:;)

GD 08-29-2015 06:57 AM

I love you DAMN, but just shhhhh...
Paige has somewhat solidified herself as a member of the main roster. She is going to do just fine. SO UQHISDFJKSAJSDKJUST SHHHHHH...

DAMN iNATOR 08-29-2015 07:02 AM

Ok, well we're in agreement then...what's the big deal here?!

Cool King 08-29-2015 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4695704)
[*]WWE currently running a poll for possible feedback on which currently retired belt could get a comeback in the near future. At the moment, the Hardcore Championship is leading with 47% of the vote. http://www.wwe.com/inside/polls/whic...-you-want-back

It just wouldn't work if the title did make a return but was renamed as the "WWE Extreme Rules Championship".

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4695825)
Maybe not yet, but I don't think any male fan will argue that she's got one legendary body! :naughty:;)

You thought wrong!

When I agree with Rammsteinmad that she's overrated, I'm not just agreeing that she's overrated when she's in the ring.

Bad News Gertner 08-29-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4695771)
Where is Gertner? Feel like right about now he should come in a denounce Emma's looks.

Lemme see here.

Nice ass: check
Nice tits: check
Doesn't look like a man or a Thai Ladyboi: check

Could use a nose job, but that can easily be corrected.

Verdict: would fuck.

#1-norm-fan 08-29-2015 08:59 AM

Was the "Thai Ladyboi" thing a Rosa Mendez reference?

As someone who has seen his fair share of Thai ladybois, I feel like it could be.

DAMN iNATOR 08-29-2015 09:21 AM

I totally voted Women's Championship in that poll. Get that fucking dumbass retarded silver/platinum and purple/pink/magenta/whatever the fuck butterfly Divas "championship" "belt" the fuck outta here. Nobody takes that shit seriously.

Cool King 08-29-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4695757)
I agree with former writer Alex Greenfield when he says the WWE could use another roster split. There is such an overexposure of certain talent and too many guys trying to kick down the door at once. They're trying to tell me that Sheamus is going to be a main event presence whilst Brock Lesnar, Seth Rollins, Sting and John Cena have everything there on lock-down.

As I was watching the guys come out for the 8-Man Tag on RAW, I thought to myself "All of these people could totally be sent exclusively to SmackDown". All of them. The ladies could be split into two as well. The Bellas, Alicia Fox, Paige, Emma & Nattie could handle RAW, while the new girls, Lana, Summer Rae, Naomi and Tamina could do fine on SmackDown.

I've been all for a roster split for so long now.

And much like Mr. Cruz:


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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4695758)
<font color=goldenrod>A dedicated brand split is about the only way I'll ever watch SmackDown with any regularity again.</font>

I don't get how Vince & Co. can't see that a roster split would make sense.

Vince has a main roster of around 90 people, yet he only focuses on around 15, so that's around 75 guys that are just left to pretty much go to waste. With a roster split, pretty much everyone would be in use and the company would have more main event names and so much more mid-card names, which would eventually become main event names. Also, we'd see the return of the "Draft specials" of Raw, which I always enjoyed.

Checking out the roster now, if I had to split them into brands:

Raw

Alicia Fox
Big E
Brock Lesnar
Byron Saxton - Commentary
Cesaro
Chris Jericho
Curtis Axel
Darren Young
Dolph Ziggler
Dudley Boyz
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
Emma
Fandango
Heath Slater
Jack Swagger
Jamie Noble
JBL - Commentary
Joey Mercury
John Cena
Kalisto
King Barrett
Kofi Kingston
Lana
Lilian Garcia - Ring Announcer
Mark Henry
Michael Cole - Commentary
Naomi
Natalya
Nikki Bella
Paul Heyman
Renee Young - Backstage Interviewer
Roman Reigns
Rusev
Ryback
Scott Stanford - Backstage Interviewer
Seth Rollins
Sin Cara
Stephanie McMahon - General Manager
Titus O'Neil
Undertaker
Xavier Woods
Zeb Colter

SmackDown

Adam Rose
Alex Riley
Becky Lynch
Big Show
Bo Dallas
Booker T - Commentary
Bray Wyatt
Brie Bella
Cameron
Charlotte
Christian
Daniel Bryan
David Otunga
Dean Ambrose
Diego
Eden - Ring Announcer or Backstage Interviewer
El Torito
Erick Rowan
Eva Marie
Fernando
Goldust
Hornswoggle
Jason Albert
Jerry Lawler - Commentary
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Kane
Kevin Owens
Konnor
Kyle Edwards - Backstage Interviewer
Luke Harper
Macho Mandow
The Miz
Neville
Paige
R-Truth
Randy Orton
Rosa Mendes
Sasha Banks
Sheamus
Stardust
Summer Rae
Tamina
Tom Phillips - Commentary
Tony Chimel - Ring Announcer or Backstage Interviewer
Triple H - General Manager
Tyson Kidd
Viktor
William Regal
Zack Ryder

Have the return of the World Heavyweight Championship and make it a SmackDown exclusive, along with the United States Championship.

The WWE Championship and Intercontinental Championships would be Raw exclusive.

The Tag Team Championship and Divas Championship wouldn't be branded so the holders of the championship can appear and defend on both brands, but to make it more interesting, when the holder loses it, they become exclusive to the brand of the person they lost it to. I think it could make some interesting storylines.

Also, make it a pyramid system, so that new talent begin at NXT, they then "graduate" to SmackDown, then from there, they graduate to Raw.

To me, I think all that would make things a whole lot better than what we have now.

DAMN iNATOR 08-29-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4695843)

You thought wrong!

When I agree with Rammsteinmad that she's overrated, I'm not just agreeing that she's overrated when she's in the ring.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, then. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or whatever. And this particular beholder wouldn't turn down the opportunity to be holdin' her...:)

Cool King 08-29-2015 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4695857)
I totally voted Women's Championship in that poll. Get that fucking dumbass retarded silver/platinum and purple/pink/magenta/whatever the fuck butterfly Divas "championship" "belt" the fuck outta here. Nobody takes that shit seriously.

But girls love butterflies and pinks and purples and sparkly diamonds.

Don't they?

#1-norm-fan 08-29-2015 09:33 AM

I think the roster split ended in large part due to the fact that no one was watching Smackdown anyway. So they started "Raw Supershow" to get eyes on the Smackdown talent and eventually they were like "Why the fuck do we even have a roster split at this point?"

So with Smackdown moving to USA, it could be a good time to bring it back. Just... keep one world title. Fucking hate the 2 title system. Have the guy with the title move between brands like when it first started and keep ONE champion who has a shitload of credibility instead of two interchangeable guys splitting it.

Cool King 08-29-2015 09:35 AM

I think the reason no one was watching SmackDown was because near the end of the roster split, SmackDown had become just a Raw recap show, with three or four SmackDown matches added between the recaps.

SmackDown was no longer it's own show at that point.

DAMN iNATOR 08-29-2015 09:37 AM

That may be true, @CK_But_NOT_Louis, but I think the NXT Women's Championship shows that you can design a women's division title belt that female fans and male alike can take seriously...which also looks to be either silver or platinum with pink/purple and diamonds.

IMO, the NXT Women's Championship looks well-designed, well thought out ahead of time and sensibly laid out, whereas to me the Divas belt doesn't look Iike it has any of those things going for it. Besides, does the Divas Championship actually have diamonds? Every time I've ever seen it, it hasn't appeared to...

#1-norm-fan 08-29-2015 09:37 AM

However, even if a new roster split were to happen... Booking would still be an issue.

#1-norm-fan 08-29-2015 09:39 AM

I'd be all for giving whoever the fuck is writing NXT half of the roster and letting him have Smackdown. I just don't think Vince would allow the free range for him to do what he wants. An hour on WWE Network is one thing. Valuable time on the USA Network...

Evil Vito 08-29-2015 09:44 AM

<font color=goldenrod>My ideal concept for a brand split (and one that I was going to do in my EWR game before I got too busy to play it as usual) would be that all the champions float. World, IC, US, Tag, Divas. All of them. Champs can show up wherever they want.

Realistically the champs would spend chunks of time on one show depending on who they're feuding with at the moment but it gives them flexibility to change things up as they see fit. You could have the World Champ end the feud with a Raw guy and then focus on a SmackDown guy. So while that is happening you have the IC/US title holders feuding with Raw guys. So basically every show has different title feuds going on.</font>

#1-norm-fan 08-29-2015 09:56 AM

I like the more "neat and tidy" idea of the IC championship as the "main title" on Smackdown and US championship as the "main title" on Raw. That never changes. If you're fighting for that title, you're trying to stake your claim as the "next in line" for the world title. It ALWAYS means something because those are the only titles that signify brand dominance. Plus it gives a meaning to both titles. I don't know exactly what holding either title is supposed to signify nowadays.

Other than that, the divas, tag and world titles all go back and forth between brands monthly because they all signify the best in the company in their respective divisions.

Savio 08-29-2015 11:59 AM

I say we just cancel smackdown.

NormanSmiley 08-29-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4695854)

As someone who has seen his fair share of Thai ladybois,


And here we go. Explains alot

Cool King 08-29-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4695900)
I say we just cancel smackdown.

And bring back <s>Sunday</s> Stevie Night Heat!

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2015 05:02 PM

I can understand the principle behind having one World Champion, one set of Tag Champs, one Ladies' Champ, etc. That being said, I think the company finds it hard to toggle between meaningful programs for that champion on each show without stepping on the other's toes. If the split were definitive, then I'd go ahead and create my own champion on SmackDown via rassling tournament. I'd make Randy Orton the winner of that, defeating Bray Wyatt in the finals, but he only delays the inevitable, as Bray Wyatt is my central main event heel.

I'd remove Jerry Lawler from commentary, turning heel on Dolph Ziggler and costing him his tournament match. The WWE won't sanction a match between the two, so King and Zigs (reluctantly, since he's a good man now) build to an Empty Arena Match on a WWE Network special. Also agreeing to fight at the arena are Ric Flair and Rusev (doing a "too big for the B-show" super athlete gimmick) over Flair's issues with Rusev beating him down and calling Charlotte names during a rivalry she develops with Summer Rae.

* The Miz is drafted to SmackDown, but is not invited to compete in the tournament to crown a new champion. He complains about this and finds himself confronted by Damien Sandow -- giving the Sandow vs. Miz feud a chance to develop like it never really did. The Miz ends up reforming his alliance over another self-pitying star in R-Truth. Sandow brings his best friend, Curtis Axel, to the dance. I run Axel vs. R-Truth and Sandow vs. Miz at all my house shows, with them having one of the first tag team feuds of the new SmackDown era.

* I mentioned Charlotte vs. Summer Rae, but I think Becky Lynch and Sasha Banks would also benefit from being on SmackDown. You could space out matches between those girls quite easily. Eventually they get the Women's Championship to fight over.

* Eventually I move into a SmackDown Six style program between Cesaro & Ziggler, Owens & Rusev and Jack Swagger & Apollo Crews. There's so much history between Swagger and both Cesaro and Ziggler, as well as Swagger and Rusev. Swagger taking on Apollo Crews as a partner seems random (and it is), but Crews would bring a high energy level to Swagger's act; and a lot of his offense actually reminds me of Cesaro. Could you imagine the heat if Crews is pulling off Cesaro's shit on Dolph Ziggler, as Cesaro has to watch from the apron? Jeez.

Emperor Smeat 08-29-2015 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4695868)
I'd be all for giving whoever the fuck is writing NXT half of the roster and letting him have Smackdown. I just don't think Vince would allow the free range for him to do what he wants. An hour on WWE Network is one thing. Valuable time on the USA Network...

They sort of already did this before since the current and previous lead writer were the lead writers of NXT.

Every time it ended the same way. New lead writer gets some leeway for storylines, WWE gets bored, and everything devolves back to just filler while anything good gets repeated on RAW.

WWE didn't even bother to consider Daniel Bryan's idea of having the IC belt be the exclusive belt for Smackdown similar to the US belt with the Open Challenges for RAW.

Emperor Smeat 08-29-2015 06:21 PM

Destination America's parent company already starting the removal of TNA from the network leading to the official drop by the end of next month.

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Discovery Communications has begun pulling Impact Wrestling off their schedule for overseas airings. Discovery En Espanol does not have any more episodes of the show listed on their schedule. The show was airing on Saturdays at 1pm but Impact has been replaced with back to back airings of a show called “Curiosity.” TNA had only been on the air in Latin American markets since June.

TNA has also been pulled from the schedule in Romania and Finland on Discovery-owned Eurosport. We also got word that they have been pulled from the Nuvolari channel in Italy.

This is probably a sign of what is to come since the word is that, according to an internal memo sent a few months ago (shared with Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer newsletter), Destination America was exercising their right to use their “opt out” clause in their deal with TNA and they do not plan on airing Impact after September.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2015 06:37 PM

Here are the guys I would take for SmackDown:

* Apollo Crews: I'm not his biggest fan as of yet, but I think he'd make a great partner to Jack Swagger. It'd be a great way to incubate him, as I'd be having that team clash with Cesaro & Dolph Ziggler.

* Becky Lynch: I like the idea of the girls who just came up as part of the "Divas Revolution" spinning off and taking over their own show. That can be SmackDown. Give these girls a chance to get over on the blue brand before you interchange them and swap around rosters when you do the first draft.

* Braun Strowman: Not sold on the guy, but I imagine he's a package deal if I'm getting Bray Wyatt.

* Bray Wyatt: He's my top heel and second World Heavyweight Champion.

* Byron Saxton: I'm not sure if RAW would let me have him, because they seem to love him for whatever reason, but I'd use him around the place. He's got ring experience, commentary experience, ring announcing experience and I think he's even worked on the NXT creative team. If I need an announcer to get beat-down, he's my man. If I need someone to step up and be a manager, he's my man. He just seems like a "safe" guy to have around. He'd probably start off as my chief interviewer, but once Eden Stiles moves into competition, I probably use him as my ring announcer.

* Cesaro: I charge him as a babyface in the tag team division, teaming with Dolph Ziggler. Eventually they are bound to move up the card though.

* Charlotte: I put Charlotte against Summer Rae first. I then have that spill into a Ric Flair/Rusev confrontation. I probably go with Sasha Banks as my first Women's Champion, but Charlotte is bound to get some good runs either with the title or as Banks' top contender. I see big money in a Paige vs. Charlotte feud, but that probably happens on either RAW when they take Charlotte in the draft, or later down the track on SmackDown.

* Chris Jericho: He doesn't work TV anymore, but most of the guys Jericho likes to work with at live events would be on SmackDown after the draft, so I beg Vince to let me use him on my circuit and feature him on my roster page.

* Christian: He'd be my color commentator once I turn Jerry "The King" Lawler into a heel manager. To move Randy Orton off from Bray Wyatt, if I can get the clearance, I have Christian hit Orton with a steel chair in their final World Title match, revealing that he wants "One More Match" against his greatest rival...

* Cody Rhodes: I eventually imagine him winning the World Title from Randy Orton. I think he'd have a great run with Bray Wyatt too; but he might be better off starting in the mid-card of my shows. He'd make a tremendous Intercontinental Champion.

* Curtis Axel: Maybe there's no real main event potential in him, but he's a solid guy to have around to make others look good. I give him a chance to get over with his friendship with Damien Sandow and a rivalry against The Miz and R-Truth though. Face Axel vs. Heel Truth could be my last match before intermission at house shows or something.

* Damien Sandow: First he feuds with The Miz. Then R-Truth gets involved alongside The Miz. Axel comes in to help Sandow. Tag team matches. Sandow moves on to feud with another old rival in Cody Rhodes over the Intercontinental Title. Sandow wins it, and then offers to defend it against Curtis Axel out of respect. That might be where we see a heel turn from Axel, who aligns himself with Jerry Lawler, now doing heel manager work.

* Daniel Bryan: I don't know if I can get clearance to use him in the ring, but if not, I use him as a coach for Ryback or in a General Manager type position. Maybe he doesn't show up every week, but I get to promote him for special deals and such. I'd love to use him in an Intercontinental Title feud against Ryback or something.

* Dolph Ziggler: I put him with Cesaro and hope that having the best tag team matches ever will be beneficial to my brand somehow. He brings Lana over with him, so I also get a hot chick with some potential storylines to follow. Kevin Owens & Rusev are my big heels against Ziggler & Cesaro, but I also have a rivalry with Jack Swagger & Apollo Crews develop.

* El Torito; Hornswoggle: Torito comes over with Los Matadores, but eventually you're taking their masks. Do they keep the little bull? Maybe you can bring in someone to be "Little Dragon" with Lucha Dragons and have some matches at live events with Torito and Hornswoggle? I wouldn't make it a major part of programming, but I'd treat them as seriously as a guy named "Hornswoggle" can be treated.

* Eden Stiles: She'd be my ring announcer, but as Cody Rhodes become embroiled in a program with The Wyatt Family, she's bound to find herself a part of storylines. Eventually, once she gets good enough, you can slip her into active competition.

* Erick Rowan: I guess he comes over with The Wyatt Family. He worked well with Luke Harper, and if I'm being realistic and want to establish new Tag Team Champions, they'd be a good bet to go first. They could drop the titles to Cesaro & Ziggler, which launches my big program between them, Owens/Rusev and Swagger/Crews.

* Greg Hamilton: He's very similar to Byron Saxton, minus the commentary experience. I probably use him as a backstage interviewer once I switch Saxton to ring announcing -- or I have them alternate duties like that.

* Jack Swagger: I love Swaggie and think he could be used better, and don't think they'd be much of a fight to keep him on RAW. He's great in tag teams, so I'd refocus him that scene, giving a big rub to Apollo Crews. With Zeb Colter as their manager, they have someone who can talk. If I make Jerry Lawler the manager of Rusev/Owens, could you imagine a promo segment between Colter and King?

* Jerry Lawler: At first he's the color commentator, but when he sees a chance, he costs Dolph Ziggler a shot at the World Heavyweight Title. He fights Dolph Ziggler in an Empty Arena Match. But this all leads to King aligning himself with Rusev and becoming a heel manager. He takes Rusev & Kevin Owens to the newly re-established World Tag Team Championships, and eventually Curtis Axel to the Intercontinental Championship.

* Kevin Owens: He starts teaming with Rusev, simply because they see the benefit of working together to beat people up and make money. They eventually take on Jerry "The King" Lawler as a manager. If we're ballsy enough, we can have Kevin Owens Pop-Up Powerbomb Lana as a bit of an angle to get heat for the duo heading into matches against Cesaro & Ziggler. They're my big heel team alongside Harper & Rowan, who spend a lot of their time fighting Randy Orton, Ryback and my other top faces.

* Lana: She comes over with Dolph Ziggler and maybe has some matches with Summer Rae. She ends up the face manager of Ziggler & Cesaro, and maybe she is the eventual reason for their split? I could see her getting quite a big showing against Sasha Banks at some point.

* Los Matadores: They start off respectful faces, turn heel, lose their masks, have a heel run as a team, then maybe I have Primo turn on Fernando and try and make it as a heel on his own, eventually bringing back Epico for a blood-relative blood-feud.

* Lucha Dragons: I see a lot of potential in a Lucha Dragons vs. Los Matadores feud. After the Dragons dispatch of Diego y Fernando, I'm not really sure what then. Maybe they feud with the big bruisers in The Wyatt Family? Doing some work with Swagger & Crews would be cool too. I think you can get a lot of mileage out of them, and they might move some merchandise.

* Luke Harper: Bray Wyatt's first general. I see potential in him all over my roster. He could be one-half of the reinstated World Tag Team Championship, before dropping those titles to Ziggler & Cesaro. He could also have some good hard-hitting IC Title matches with Ryback. I'd probably have him win the title off Ryback (freeing Ryback up for a main event run), then drop it to Cody Rhodes. Eventually I'd like to see Harper in the main event.

* The Miz: I use him to put over Damien Sandow. I have him team with R-Truth, and I think they could be highly entertaining together again. I basically use The Miz to put over whoever he's working with. Eventually I consider even moving him away from the ring, if not permanently, just to give us a chance to not be overexposed to him. I can actually imagine a WWE Network or USA Network show, sort of like Tough Enough, where The Miz and Daniel Bryan lead opposite teams against each other.

* R-Truth: He's pretty good at everything, and I like the idea of him putting over Curtis Axel, Damien Sandow and working heel with Miz again. If The Wyatt Family need someone who can work if Strowman and Rowan don't pan out -- R-Truth becoming "Little Jimmy Wyatt" has potential.

* Randy Orton: My first World Heavyweight Champion. He feuds with Bray Wyatt before seguing into a feud with Christian (hopefully). He's a big star to get attention for the brand out the gate, and he gets another World Title out of it. His schedule is reduced due to being only on one show, and it's the show where he'll have the extra opportunity to spread his wings.

* Ric Flair: He shows up to confront Rusev about two things -- 1) being disparaging in regards to SmackDown, due to Rusev believing he's too big a "super athlete" for the "B-show"; and 2) insulting his daughter during a promo he cuts with Summer Rae. Rusev beats down Ric Flair, and if I can get away with it, I have Flair blade. At the same show King and Ziggler have their Empty Arena Match, Ric Flair challenges Rusev to show up and fight him. Charlotte begs him not to, but you can't stop Ric Flair being Ric Flair. King helps out Rusev and becomes his new manager, putting him together with Kevin Owens. Ric Flair then probably just gets used for special appearances.

* Rich Brennan: I much prefer him to Tom Phillips, for whatever reason. He's my play-by-play guy with Jerry Lawler, then Christian, and then either Corey Graves or Byron Saxton. He becomes "The Voice of SmackDown."

* Rusev: He's my heel bruiser with Kevin Owens against Ziggler & Cesaro. This will help him improve his ring skills. It's more than likely he and Owens would get a run with my World Tag Team Championship at some point. He gains Jerry Lawler as a manager, and eventually works his way up the card.

* Sasha Banks: This girl radiates "star." RAW probably wouldn't want me to have her, but it seems counter-productive to have her on the same show as Nikki Bella, and they'll want to keep Nikki happy by having her work RAW. Banks is the new girl, so she can carve out a fresh niche. She'd be my first choice for Women's Champion, but she'd probably drop the title to Charlotte, although I'd find a way to have her win it back. I then probably give Becky Lynch a run with the belt, but then Summer Rae gets manipulated into helping Banks win the title back. Then I probably have Lana get a shock run with the title, but either Banks or Summer Rae wins it back from her, and if it's Summer, then Banks is bound to be upset with her. You get the picture. Banks is probably something like a four-time Women's Champion by the time the next draft comes around.

* Summer Rae: She's actually not the worst in the ring, and had a good gimmick in NXT. She hasn't found traction on the main roster, but this alliance with Rusev has got some legs. She can have some matches with Lana and Charlotte, and eventually she and Becky Lynch are bound to mix it up. That will make her better. She's the sort of heel female performer that's not going to get accidentally cheered for being awesome.

* Wade Barrett: I don't really have a clear vision for him, but I guess I want to "save" him from RAW. I think his background, size and promo ability make him a "can't-miss" sort of talent, but he suffers from there really being no room at the top. There would be on my show. He'd find himself aligned with Randy Orton taking on The Wyatt Family at some point, and basically keeping everything grungy that there is in the underground fighter personality, but just pointing it towards evil. "The British are coming for your head."

* Zeb Colter: Man, is this guy both a promo and a wrestling mind. Having him around would be great. He manages Jack Swagger and Apollo Crews, and they probably get a run with the Tag Team Championship at some point.

That still leaves RAW with:

* Adam Rose
* Alicia Fox
* Big E
* Big Show
* Bo Dallas
* Brie Bella
* Brock Lesnar
* Booker T
* Bubba Ray Dudley
* Cameron
* Corey Graves
* D-Von Dudley
* Darren Young
* David Otunga
* Dean Ambrose
* Emma
* Eva Marie
* Fandango
* Goldust
* Heath Slater
* JBL
* Jey Uso
* Jimmy Uso
* John Cena
* JoJo
* Kane
* Kofi Kingston
* Konnor
* Lilian Garcia
* Mark Henry
* Michael Cole
* Naomi
* Natalya
* Neville
* Nikki Bella
* Paige
* Paul Heyman
* Renee Young
* The Rock
* Roman Reigns
* Rosa Mendes
* Scott Stanford
* Seth Rollins
* Sheamus
* Stephanie McMahon
* Sting
* Tamina Snuka
* Titus O'Neil
* Tom Phillips
* Triple H
* Tyson Kidd
* The Undertaker
* Viktor
* Xavier Woods
* Zack Ryder

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2015 06:55 PM

And, if you want to know how I'd split the referees:

RAW: Mike Chiota, Chad Patton, Rod Zapata, Darrick Moore, Jason Ayers

SmackDown: Charles Robinson, John Cone, Dan Engler, Ryan Tran

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2015 06:56 PM

TNA only have themselves to blame.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2015 06:58 PM

Paul Heyman is apparently a huge fan of Corey Graves' commentary work. Truth be told, I've always wanted to see how Graves & Renee Young would do together.

screech 08-29-2015 07:07 PM

Much prefer Graves on commentary than on kickoff shows. He's great at making fun of Rich Brennan

Cool King 08-29-2015 07:22 PM

I don't know why, but whenever I see Cory Graves & Renee Young working together, I always getting a feeling that there's some sort of sexual tension between the two of them.

Sepholio 08-29-2015 07:29 PM

Noid please use a different blue font in the future, ala Cool Kings. I tried to read your Smackdown refs and my right eye exploded.

Cool King 08-29-2015 07:31 PM

Once upon a time, those complaints were aimed at me.

Those were the days.

Damian Rey 08-29-2015 07:51 PM

Love Corey Graves commentary on NXT. Him and Brennan make an excellent team, which means they'll end up being awful if they ever get the call to the big time because Raw and Smackdown is where announcers go to die.

Lock Jaw 08-29-2015 08:16 PM

Corey Graves plays the heel better than JBL does these days. (Graves probably has a whole lot less people in his ear feeding him lines, though)

I also enjoy Rich Brennan, except for when he occasionally calls Charlotte "Cherlit" (Sure-lit) which sends me into a fit of rage. I notice he has improved that, though. Used to say it that way every-time he said her name, but now he only does it some of the time. Kudos to him to try and improve.

GD 08-29-2015 08:30 PM

Corey Graves is growing on me. While I don't enjoy his network show/s, I love his commentary work.

screech 08-29-2015 09:44 PM

I've been digging Culture Shock

Fignuts 08-29-2015 11:51 PM

Don't mind Corey Graves at all. He's knowledgeable at least.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-30-2015 12:51 AM

Corey is a good heel but also knows when to just acknowledge greatness in the faces.

#1-norm-fan 08-30-2015 02:21 AM

From the front page...

Quote:

Dean Ambrose was nearly attacked from behind by a fan during the WWE SmackDown television taping in Providence, Rhode Island this past Tuesday evening.
Seen below is footage of a fan being taken down by security after jumping the guard rail and attempting to attack Ambrose from behind.
According to some fans in attendance, the fan that tried to attack Ambrose reportedly tried to stab the WWE Superstar, however that has yet to be confirmed.
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Jesus Christ, people.

#1-norm-fan 08-30-2015 02:24 AM

Security guard with the quick takedown like a beast though.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2015 02:36 AM

In other bad news, Cliff Compton apparently got rushed to the hospital and couldn't perform at the ROH show he was booked to work. I hope the dude's alright.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2015 02:37 AM

I think Graves sometimes goes a bit *too* heelish, almost like it's a joke, but I do like Graves and Brennan together. Saxton can just fuck off out of that group though.

GD 08-30-2015 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4696156)
From the front page...



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Jesus Christ, people.

This is terrible. First Roman, now Dean :nono:

Savio 08-30-2015 02:40 AM

NSFW:

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GD 08-30-2015 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4695872)
I like the more "neat and tidy" idea of the IC championship as the "main title" on Smackdown and US championship as the "main title" on Raw. That never changes. If you're fighting for that title, you're trying to stake your claim as the "next in line" for the world title. It ALWAYS means something because those are the only titles that signify brand dominance. Plus it gives a meaning to both titles. I don't know exactly what holding either title is supposed to signify nowadays.

Other than that, the divas, tag and world titles all go back and forth between brands monthly because they all signify the best in the company in their respective divisions.

Daniel Bryan had a crazy idea where he would become exclusive to Smackdown along with the Intercontinental Championship so that he could have longer matches and creative things to do.

I still believe that having two separate distinct brands with different writing teams would do wonders for the WWE. That also means the reinstatement of the big gold belt.

Lock Jaw 08-30-2015 02:43 AM

Probably attacked Dean due to being jealous about Renee Young....

GD 08-30-2015 02:50 AM

I bet.

Didn't know that Seth Rollins had a "mistress". Seems feisty.

#1-norm-fan 08-30-2015 02:51 AM

Did you miss "Seth Rollins' cock-gate?"

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2015 02:58 AM

I wonder if some of these fans are taking Bray Wyatt's cult leader gimmick a bit too seriously...

Emperor Smeat 08-30-2015 02:58 AM

Apparently Seth Rollins current girlfriend, Zahara from NXT, may or may not be some sort of neo-Nazi or Nazi admirer. Possible incoming scandal involving her Twitter and Instagram account having pro-Nazi/racist related stuff from the past that was recently discovered.

Had a couple of images of swastika related art with her originally saying there was nothing wrong with liking historical art. Then later tried to defend one of the images by saying the photo of a person included was a known anti-Nazi as a way to prove she's not some sort of neo-Nazi. Ended up deleting the images from her Instagram account once the backlash started to get really bad.

Rollins got involved on Twitter mainly being upset at people wanting him to immediately dump her and that he's not involved with anything she posts or believes in.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2015 03:04 AM

I saw some of her posts about that shit, and she sounds like someone who is interested in the historical significance of the insignia more than anything. She probably should have expected backlash, but I don't think she's exactly a neo-Nazi.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2015 03:04 AM

Also, she just debuted as Solomon Crowe's "little sister."

Emperor Smeat 08-30-2015 03:04 AM

The image that started the whole mess:
http://www.cagesideseats.com/2015/8/...-swastika-2012

Another image that added more fuel to the mess:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/27c57a656...ced1o1_540.png

Rollins response at being dragged into this situation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNIJtJXWoAA2phU.jpg

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2015 03:06 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images.../RU4uosaz.jpeg

She clearly loves America, people!

GD 08-30-2015 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4696172)
Did you miss "Seth Rollins' cock-gate?"

Oh yeah! His penis.

Cool King 08-30-2015 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4696176)
Apparently Seth Rollins current girlfriend, Zahara from NXT, may or may not be some sort of neo-Nazi or Nazi admirer. Possible incoming scandal involving her Twitter and Instagram account having pro-Nazi/racist related stuff from the past that was recently discovered.

Had a couple of images of swastika related art with her originally saying there was nothing wrong with liking historical art. Then later tried to defend one of the images by saying the photo of a person included was a known anti-Nazi as a way to prove she's not some sort of neo-Nazi. Ended up deleting the images from her Instagram account once the backlash started to get really bad.

Rollins got involved on Twitter mainly being upset at people wanting him to immediately dump her and that he's not involved with anything she posts or believes in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4696181)
The image that started the whole mess:
http://www.cagesideseats.com/2015/8/...-swastika-2012

Another image that added more fuel to the mess:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/27c57a656...ced1o1_540.png

Rollins response at being dragged into this situation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNIJtJXWoAA2phU.jpg

Stuff like this just annoys me sometimes.

Pretty much the exact same thing happened over here with Tila Tequila two days ago.

Tila Tequila was a contestant on the newest series of Celebrity Big Brother, but after a day, she got kicked out because she posted a Photoshopped picture of her wearing a Nazi hat and armband outside Auschwitz. Around the same time, she got high and claimed she was Hitler or something like that. People seem to be missing that fact that the photo was Photoshopped and that she wasn't actually dressed as a Nazi outside Auschwitz. If she did actually do that, then yes, she's an idiot.

The thing is, this all happened in 2013.

I don't get why people feel the need trawl through people's internet history and then suddenly drag stuff from the past into the present. Nobody gave a shit back then, so why should we give a shit now? Just because the individual is more well known now?

If that's the case, then God help us all (Especially Jabba and his NCW C-Fed back in the day) if any of us become famous and more well known, as I'm sure we've all done stupid shit on the internet back in the day at one point or another.

I can actually understand where Zahara is coming from, as I know a girl who's the exact same as her, as the girl I know really likes "Nazi art" and she finds the Nazi's interesting along with both World Wars. I get the feeling that she would really like the My Little Pony Nazi image if she saw it.

Just because the girl I know likes that stuff, doesn't mean she's a huge Nazi and wants to be just like Hitler or anything like that. In fact, she's quite the opposite. She just has an interest in history and art that is both from and references that part of history, just like Zahara.

I don't see what's so bad about that.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2015 08:33 AM

You said it better than I could have. A lot of people have an interest in relics and historical attitudes from that time. Hell, I love reading up about the Nazis. I think people are looking way too much into this.

#1-norm-fan 08-30-2015 08:48 AM

She separates it from Hitler in the first picture by making it clear "the swastika was around before Hitler". Makes it clear that it's an "art" thing and not any kind of nazi thing.

But this...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNnRQ7tUYAAQgId.png

Seems a little more damning.

Especially the explanation. "I believe what I believe and I have my reasons behind them" and "I have my deep, personal reasons for what I believe in..." both sound pretty bad and not exactly like she's defending art. lol

VSG 08-30-2015 08:51 AM

The Swastika is a lot older than Nazi Germany but in this context she was clearly going on about the Nazi period. Either way, hopefully this doesn't lead to her getting fired or something.

Edit: Fuck you, fan

Cool King 08-30-2015 08:55 AM

Well, Aloisia got released for those "porn" pictures of her in her underwear, even though they were taken around five years before she signed with the WWE.

Cool King 08-30-2015 08:56 AM

If she doesn't get released, that must mean that Vince is a Nazi!

#1-norm-fan 08-30-2015 08:59 AM

lol

Yeah, clearly not just about the symbol. Which is fine if she's just into it from a historical perspective. Like I said though, when she starts defending her "deep personal reasons" for what she believes in, it does make it sound REALLY bad though.


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