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GD 07-15-2015 10:25 PM

Swagger can give MMA a try.

Tom Guycott 07-15-2015 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4667312)
The Miz looks pretty much the same.

Yeah, he's pretty close already.

Tom Guycott 07-15-2015 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4667558)


According to the Observer, WWE doesn't really want ZZ to win and instead their hand picked choice of Joshua Bredl instead. They never expected ZZ would have ended up as the runaway people's choice when they came up with the fan voting idea.

You'd think WWE would have learned this lesson from Daniel Bryan's or CM Punk's situations. They want their "hand picked" guy to succeed because reasons, but someone who actually resonates with fans has them scratching their heads as to why. Hopefully, as I know nothing about the TE finalists, this is a similar case and not a singing reality show style troll where the shitty person keeps getting upvotes for the sake of disruption.


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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4667558)
Some other sheet news includes:
  • Current speculation Jack Swagger could be leaving the WWE very soon since his official WWE Twitter account got deleted by him or the WWE recently. Supposedly he's been upset at his current status and lack of overall direction within the company for a while now.

Would you blame him?

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#1-norm-fan 07-15-2015 10:51 PM

That gif makes me wanna see him with a mountain man gimmick of some sort. Just gotta grow the beard out a little more. Have him get depressed that he never lived up to his potential and now he lives off the grid while rasslin' just for fun. No money. He lives off the land. He doesn't need your money. Just wants to pummel and stretch some folks.

Dark One 07-16-2015 12:21 AM

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Emperor Smeat 07-16-2015 12:52 AM

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Cool King 07-16-2015 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4667558)
[*]Current speculation Jack Swagger could be leaving the WWE very soon since his official WWE Twitter account got deleted by him or the WWE recently. Supposedly he's been upset at his current status and lack of overall direction within the company for a while now.

http://community.us.playstation.com/...v=mpbl-1&px=-1

Tom Guycott 07-16-2015 07:32 AM

To me, that was up there with the "Mother" promo. Only thing is, Bray sounds like he's nursing a headcold here.

Shadrick 07-16-2015 12:48 PM

Ha, I remember when Swagger asked for his release and Vince was like 'we'll do better, promise."

erickman 07-16-2015 12:58 PM

I would like to see swagger fued with kurt angle

Heisenberg 07-16-2015 01:57 PM

TNA is done with Destination America...will that mean we'll get 2 hours of ROH?

Sepholio 07-16-2015 02:03 PM

ROHHH

Vastardikai 07-16-2015 02:26 PM

Sounds like GFW may have just found the centerpiece to their promotion.

Mercenary 07-16-2015 03:32 PM

I think Swagger should have beat Russev. It wouldn't of hurt Russev, and would have bumped Swagger up some

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-16-2015 03:42 PM

Swagger didn't deserved to be pushed right after he put Bad News Barrett on the shelf. Even though it was clearly and accident. That's bad for business.

Mercenary 07-16-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4667844)
Swagger didn't deserved to be pushed right after he put Bad News Barrett on the shelf. Even though it was clearly and accident. That's bad for business.


Oh come on now Barrett is always getting hurt some how. I'm surprised he lasted this long

Cool King 07-16-2015 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4667844)
Swagger didn't deserved to be pushed right after he put Bad News Barrett on the shelf. Even though it was clearly and accident. That's bad for business.

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4473064)

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4464239)
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Bad News Barrett hurt Bad News Barrett.

I will forever defend Swagger on that.


SlickyTrickyDamon 07-16-2015 06:02 PM

Forever blamed for Dolph Ziggler!

Emperor Smeat 07-16-2015 06:19 PM

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Bad News Gertner 07-16-2015 06:32 PM

Watching old ECW. Forgot how hilarious the F.B.I were especially Tracy Smothers and his dancing. Lol "hailing from Nashville, Italy: Tracy Smothers".

Fignuts 07-16-2015 07:09 PM

Swagger would be perfect for NJPW.

#1-norm-fan 07-16-2015 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4667838)
I think Swagger should have beat Russev. It wouldn't of hurt Russev, and would have bumped Swagger up some

It wouldn't have hurt Rusev to have his undefeated streak broken by Jack Swagger?

Lock Jaw 07-16-2015 08:53 PM

No, it wouldn't have. Could have just become "more angry".

Savio 07-16-2015 08:55 PM

stop it

#1-norm-fan 07-16-2015 09:13 PM

Yeah, "I'm more angry now because I jobbed to Jack Swagger" wouldn't be nearly as effective as "I'm unstoppable" heading into a WrestleMania showdown with John Cena.

Emperor Smeat 07-16-2015 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Observer
SmackDown on SyFy is a lame duck situation because it's moving to the USA Network next year, and a reboot is expect in January.

The mentality right now is to put a heavier emphasis on the show when it moves to the USA Network with angles on RAW that carry over to SmackDown and vice versa. This is the reason that SmackDown has felt less important these days and the show is just a placeholder until RAW airs on Monday.

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It appears there may be more to the rumors of TNA possibly leaving Destination America this September after all.

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that privately, at least some TNA talents have been given an indication that the company will be looking for a new TV deal and that the money they make from overseas TV deals will keep them going while they shop around for a new deal here in the US.

Some TNA wrestlers were reportedly told that TNA will survive either way and be OK because they've trimmed most of the big contracts down and because they have gotten rid of most of the higher-paid talents. Some wrestlers were also told that TNA's business model is changing.
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Kurt Angle's reps announced on Twitter that Angle was rushed to the hospital by his wife yesterday after he lost feeling in his extremities and was having trouble breathing. Doctors found that Angle had a large build-up of fluid on his spinal card, a complication from having the benign tumor removed from his neck last week. Angle underwent surgery to relieve the pressure and will be missing a London Comic Con appearance this weekend.

Angle's management did note that he is feeling well. No word yet if he will be able to wrestle at next week's TNA Impact Wrestling tapings
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Meltzer said that Sting's return has been a plan for a while, and isn't due to the ratings dropping. In addition to this, it was noted that it won't be a surprise appearance at the event, and that it'll be built up over several weeks. Apparently WWE had a plan set for Sting's return, but those plans changed due to an undisclosed injury to one of the parties involved, and a new plan was made.

Sting was last seen at WrestleMania, when he made his WWE in-ring debut in a losing effort against Triple H. It is now expected that he'll also be participating in next year's WrestleMania.

Spoiler tags used since it related to another possible surprise planned for Summerslam. Original plans had to be scrapped because of someone else getting hurt.

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WWE signed Tatsumi Fujinami to a legends deal. They want all the Hall of Famers to have legends deals for marketing purposes. The deal included WWE having the right to put him into video games and releasing action figures. Fujinami, 61, said that he’d like to attend next year’s WrestleMania.
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Originally Posted by F4W
Ratings for Wednesday:
ROH at 8 p.m. 80,000 viewers (by far the record low)
TNA at 9 p.m. 293,000 viewers (one of the lower numbers)
ROH at 11 p.m. 89.000 viewers
TNA at midnight 72,000 viewers

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Josh Barnett, Maryse Mizanin and Chris Jericho are all in the new Sharknado film which airs on 7/22 on Syfy.
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President of Mexico City Wrestling El Fantasma and Mexican Health Secretary Dr. Armando Ahued Ortega have just signed a historic agreement that could change the entire wrestling industry in Mexico. Professional wrestlers in Mexico (and their families) will now be covered by a medical social insurance program.

“I am big fan of wrestling, I think this is an intense but also a risky sport. The knocks and blows affect them bit by bit, so it is very so important for them being covered by free medical expenses,” said Ahued.

Dr. Ahued also explained that this insurance will give wrestlers and their families access to clinics and hospital where they will be able to have medical tests including x-rays, MRIs, surgery, lab studies, and medical attention.
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Originally Posted by Observer
We noted before that Lisa Lee Fox was fired by WWE from her job as Executive Vice President of Content. She had worked with WWE since 1995 and most recently headed up the WWE writing team, reporting directly to Triple H and Vince McMahon. She also was one of the officials in charge of the WWE Network and TV content. It's not confirmed that this is why she was fired but Lisa had recently been the point person for WWE's bid on the old Paul Boesch Houston Wrestling tape library. It turns out that NWA's Bruce Tharpe made the winning bid and got the library instead of WWE. This led to the NWA starting their own streaming service with many matches featuring WWE Legends. While the NWA's streaming service obviously won't directly compete with the WWE Network, WWE did not want a similar service started by another wrestling company that features big name matches.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: International Superstar Jushin &quot;Thunder&quot; Liger to appear at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXTTakeover?src=hash">#NXTTakeover</a>: Brooklyn! <a href="http://t.co/vDUBfSHSD9">http://t.co/vDUBfSHSD9</a> <a href="http://t.co/7mVUtPmwV5">pic.twitter.com/7mVUtPmwV5</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/621845975540310016">July 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Some other sheet news includes:
  • Former WWE star Edge was recently signed to be a villain for Season 2 of The Flash tv series. http://comicbook.com/2015/07/16/the-...-atom-smasher/
  • According to the Observer, Lucha Underground was confirmed to be getting a second season but the promotion desperately needs another network besides El Rey and Unimas for funding to prevent more financial problems in the near future. Supposedly they are close to a deal with a very big network in Mexico called Televisa.
  • Supposedly CHIKARA recently tried to get a tv deal with Destination America to boost their Wednesday lineup and ended with DA being completely confused on who they were since they never heard of the promotion. Didn't get a deal but CHIKARA instead will be showing their weekly shows on their own website and Youtube channel. http://www.cagesideseats.com/2015/7/...d-its-a-plucky

Innovator 07-16-2015 09:23 PM

My dream WWE vs. NJPW card is one step closer to actually happening

Evil Vito 07-16-2015 09:24 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Swagger beating Rusev would have only worked if they had big plans to make Swagger important in the months that followed. That way Rusev's first loss isn't wasted on a meaningless angle and Rusev doesn't look bad for having jobbed given the guy he lost to wound up setting the world on fire.

Given WWE's track record of booking, they'd have put Swagger over and then done absolutely nothing to capitalize on it. Based on that alone, Rusev winning was absolutely the right call.</font>

Savio 07-16-2015 09:32 PM

Remember when Big Show was the first person to pin Roman Reigns (one on one)? lol

Vastardikai 07-16-2015 09:32 PM

Edge seems on his way to having a better acting career than Cena.

Liger on NXT? If Vince has delusions of people knowing who he is, then prepare for a shock.

Also, is it wrong that I want to see Barnett snap a shark in half?

Savio 07-16-2015 09:35 PM

Cena is in a bigger movie right now.

#1-norm-fan 07-16-2015 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4668100)
Liger on NXT? If Vince has delusions of people knowing who he is, then prepare for a shock.

A lot of NXT fans would know who he is. Not just because a lot of them are marks and know random Japanese wrestlers either. He was a big part of WCW's cruiserweight division early on so he's got tons of stuff available on the network. And I'm sure they'll heavily promote that heading into the match.

Seth82 07-16-2015 10:33 PM

Liger is one of the most well known Japanese wrestlers here in the states.

He's made any number of appearances here with ROH & etc.

I am pumped for this one!

Vastardikai 07-16-2015 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4668111)
A lot of NXT fans would know who he is. Not just because a lot of them are marks and know random Japanese wrestlers either. He was a big part of WCW's cruiserweight division early on so he's got tons of stuff available on the network. And I'm sure they'll heavily promote that heading into the match.

Sting has stuff all over the Network and still considered him "obscure."

But yeah, Liger is up there with Muta and Tajiri.

Lock Jaw 07-16-2015 10:52 PM

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SlickyTrickyDamon 07-17-2015 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4668101)
Cena is in a bigger movie right now.

Movie was great. See it.

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2015 02:22 AM

According to the Observer, WWE and NJPW have a new working agreement with Liger being the start. Also teased something involving WWE/NXT and ROH might be in the works as well.

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-17-2015 02:24 AM

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2015 02:28 AM

Only downside is none of the NJPW nor possible ROH guys would show up on the main shows since the WWE likely don't want them to outshine their own stars. Also likely doing it to pluck another bunch of guys for NXT.

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No, they want their own people, they will sign people and scout people, but don't expect people not under contract on main roster ... Don't get ahead of yourself. WWE is not going to put guys who can outshine their own guys that they don't own on main roster.


Mr. Nerfect 07-17-2015 06:57 AM

The NJPW stuff is pretty great. They could send Swagger to NJPW and have him do a heel super-proud American gaijin thing.

Innovator 07-17-2015 07:44 AM

Someone go take out Yujiro so Cesaro can be in the G1

DAMN iNATOR 07-17-2015 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4666802)
When was the last time that Divas kissed? (Not talking about HLA)

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4666805)
I imagine on Total Divas, probably.

May have been, but I don't think so. The last one I know of was Brie kissing A.J. during A.J.'s match with Nikki for the Divas' Championship @ Survivor Series last year.

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Tom Guycott 07-17-2015 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4668096)
<font color=goldenrod>Swagger beating Rusev would have only worked if they had big plans to make Swagger important in the months that followed. That way Rusev's first loss isn't wasted on a meaningless angle and Rusev doesn't look bad for having jobbed given the guy he lost to wound up setting the world on fire.

Given WWE's track record of booking, they'd have put Swagger over and then done absolutely nothing to capitalize on it. Based on that alone, Rusev winning was absolutely the right call.</font>

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4668098)
Remember when Big Show was the first person to pin Roman Reigns (one on one)? lol

This seems related. Intentional or no.

Big Vic 07-17-2015 11:25 AM

It was :)

Dark One 07-17-2015 01:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U were big in Japan? Good for u I was watching attitude era and punchin people in the mouth the whole time <a href="https://twitter.com/WWENXT">@WWENXT</a> by the way ur name again?</p>&mdash; Alex Riley (@AlexRileyWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexRileyWWE/status/621715627594645504">July 16, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Alex Riley is a dumbass.

Heisenberg 07-17-2015 02:11 PM

who was he referring to?

Cool King 07-17-2015 02:51 PM

Jushin Liger, I think.

Seth82 07-17-2015 03:23 PM

Jushin Liger is an internationally known superstar the last 20-25 years.

Alex Riley is barely a blip on the radar here let alone internationally.

Big Vic 07-17-2015 03:24 PM

If you walked by 30 people on the street and asked whether they knew Jushin Liger or Alex Riley they would say "No"

But if you walked past 50 people I think 2 might know who Liger is, as opposed to the 0 who know Riley.

Dark One 07-17-2015 03:31 PM

What number of people would it take to find a person that knew Alex Riley?

100? 1000? 10000?

Are we sure Alex Riley hasn't had too many concussions and should be locked away fro his own health? Corey Graves can't wrestle any more because his brain only works like 85%, but comparing the two Twitter accounts, I'd never be able to tell.

Nicky Fives 07-17-2015 03:43 PM

Over the past week I've caught up on the past 3 months of TNA, and its a shame they may be on the verge of going tits up.....some great stuff in the "Best Of 5 Series" between The Dirty Heels & The Wolves, EC3's rise to TNA Champion, crazy EY ripping of a prostestic leg and his metamorphosis in general and an intriguing female group in The Dollhouse..... but they then take 10 steps back in the Mickie/Storm/Magnus feud, The Rising/Beatdown Clan clusterfuck and the over use of gimmick matches

Big Vic 07-17-2015 03:54 PM

Alex Riley: "I was in the main event of WRESTLEMANIA 29!"

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2015 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4668470)
Jushin Liger, I think.

Either that or maybe its a hint he's the one that took out Itami. Would barely make any sense but not the first time he's used Twitter to vaguely reference future stuff.

XL 07-17-2015 05:27 PM

Or it could be referencing Balor, the guy who succeeded where Riley failed.

Not sure how watching the Attitude Era equips him better than a career in Japan.

Droford 07-17-2015 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4668491)
Alex Riley: "I was in the main event of WRESTLEMANIA 29!"

Um..I think you mean 27

Droford 07-17-2015 08:41 PM

MVP is out of TNA

I guess the Beatdown Clan is now just Kenny King

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2015 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4668640)
MVP is out of TNA

I guess the Beatdown Clan is now just Kenny King

Very likely related to a lot of his stuff having to be edited out of upcoming TNA shows because of Hernandez's recent stupidity.

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2015 09:40 PM

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The 2015 TNA Bound for Glory PPV this October will emanate from the Charlotte, North Carolina area, PWInsider.com has learned.

TNA President Dixie Carter teased an announcement was coming soon about the PPV, as well as a new interactive Fan Experience that would take place that weekend.
Was speculated for a while that Slammaversary was likely going to be the last big show TNA was ever going to be able to do.

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I'm waiting for The Young Bucks to jump on this new "Indy Wars" with national, well financed promotions and do doubleshots in one night

It's really fascinating what's going on behind the scenes now. Lots of moves being made. Competition and alliances really heating up

This is the best time to be a fan in the last 10 years, imo. It's going to be great to watch in the ring and follow behind-the-scenes
ROH, Dragon Gate, and Evolve's Gabe Sapolsky on all the recent stuff involving possible WWE deals and the Wednesday Night Wrestling War. One potential big downside though is the Observer thinks ROH could lose out on their NJPW deal if the WWE gets too close to NJPW or tries to push ROH out as part of their terms.

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We noted yesterday that the WWE NXT "Takeover: Brooklyn" event set for SummerSlam weekend saw major success with the Ticketmaster pre-sale on Thursday. The event has already sold more tickets than the previous record for NXT, which was 4,700 for the WrestleMania 31 week live event in San Jose.
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"Battleground? I'm not sure. To be quite honest I don't really have time for the current product apart from NXT; fans should focus on what's important and not hold on to my name. That's in reference to them still acknowledging me. I only do Tough Enough and Tough Enough should be about Tough Enough and not me. It's about those young men and women who want a future in this company. For those waiting for my return I appreciate it but let's focus on what's going on right now. I've had my time and it's over so it seems but there's an abundance of talent on the main roster for them to pay attention too. Just let it go."
Recent interview that was debunked by Daniel Bryan as being fake and he has no plans on retiring any time soon. http://officialfan.proboards.com/thr...ryan-interview

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"Remember me? I am Mike Jones AKA Wrestling Superstar Virgil. I am the real deal. I have been around the world 30 times and my life has always been about the hustle. I started out in the old WWF as the bodyguard of the Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase and said to myself now it is now MY TIME to be the Millionaire. If you have watched wrestling than you know who I am. I will inspire you that million dollar dreams can come true. Show your love for your favorite wrestler ever by giving me $1, $10, $100, shit $1000 and make me a MILLIONAIRE. You could make this happen and I will forever be grateful. Everyday I hustle and now I am trying to show the world that this dog can be taught new tricks!"
From Virgil's GoFundMe fundraiser that he recently started: http://www.gofundme.com/makevirgilamillion

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As we reported earlier this week, Hernandez has been released by TNA Wrestling after a contractual dispute occurred between the company and Lucha Underground.

PWInsider reports that Hernandez was hired after a strong recommendation by MVP to be added to his BDC stable. TNA management went along with the request and brought him in.

TNA sources told PWInsider that Hernandez told the company he was free from any contractual obligations to Lucha Underground. TNA made him sign an agreement saying that he presented himsel as a free agent.

Lucha Underground sources said that Hernandez asked for his release, which was in the works, but didn't go through. The company was fine with him taking outside bookings, but didn't want him to appear on another company's television until after Ultima Lucha, which airs on August 5. Hernandez instead told TNA he had a verbal release and provided documentation that they were in contact.

TNA told Hernandez they would be glad to use his footage if he wanted to pursue legal action, but when the deadline they gave him came and went, they released him from the promotion. TNA told PWInsider that they offered Lucha Underground money to use the scenes they'd already filmed with Hernandez, but Lucha Underground is denying that ever happened.
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As of this writing, no WWE Divas Title match has been announced for Sunday's Battleground pay-per-view. WWE had planned to do Paige vs. Nikki Bella as of two weeks ago but that's before the angle with the NXT Divas was done on RAW.

Speaking of Sunday's Battleground pay-per-view in St. Louis, as of Wednesday, WWE had sold just 10,500 tickets for the 14,600-seat setup. This would be the weakest advance for a regular WWE pay-per-view this year, not counting Elimination Chamber which was originally a live event in a smaller venue, and not promoted like a pay-per-view.
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As noted, The Undertaker will be on WWE RAW next week, the night after Battleground, to begin the build to a major SummerSlam match this August.

Right now, there is no word on who the Deadman is scheduled to face, but there has been some rumor of a Brock Lesnar rematch. The Lesnar match was thought to possibly be at next year’s WrestleMania PPV, but could be pushed up to next month’s show as a part of this huge weekend, which will include NXT Takeover, SummerSlam and WWE RAW all in the same building.

We also reported that Sting is expected to return to WWE TV in time for SummerSlam, as WWE has plans to use “The Vigilante” at this year’s big PPV.

According to F4WOnline.com, it has been confirmed that both The Undertaker and Sting are expected to be wrestling matches at SummerSlam.

Regarding the surprises planned for Summerslam and the post-Battleground episode of RAW.
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Based on speculation around the net, Sting probably was going to face Rusev at Summerslam before Rusev got hurt causing plans to get changed.


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During a recent appearance on The Buzz with Jimmy Traina” to promote Sunday’s WWE Battleground PPV, Seth Rollins was asked why he no longer uses the Curb Stomp as his finisher and he had the following to say:

“It was a decision that was collectively made from a PR standpoint. Curb stomp just seemed like it was too perceptually violent, I guess you would say. I never hurt anyone with it. It was just something we didn’t want kids trying on each other.”
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As noted, WWE NXT General Manager William Regal announced during last night’s NXT TV tapings that Japanese wrestling legend Jushin “Thunder” Liger will be facing Tyler Breeze at the NXT Takeover Brooklyn special on August 22nd.

According to F4WOnline.com, the announcement of Liger at Takeover is a controversial one, as Liger and New Japan Pro Wrestling have ties to ROH, and several NJPW stars will be working the ROH Field of Honor event also taking place in NYC on August 22nd.

The report also notes significant behind-the-scenes moves are being made regarding the NXT and ROH relationship, and they’re moves which reportedly have nothing to do with NJPW.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It really is as simple as me making a call to a friend I've known since 1986 to come and compete for <a href="https://twitter.com/WWENXT">@WWENXT</a>.Really.Now please stop asking.</p>&mdash; William Regal (@RealKingRegal) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKingRegal/status/622149042068451328">July 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Regal on how he managed to get Liger to show up for the next NXT special.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dave says the next chapter in the WWE/ROH war was described from someone close to the situation as &quot;They'll never see what's coming next.&quot;</p>&mdash; DTAM (@DeathToAllMarks) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeathToAllMarks/status/622181649263009793">July 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Apparently the WWE's been feuding with ROH ever since NXT starting touring and them trying to block indie events from happening on Mania weekend.

Frank Drebin 07-17-2015 09:41 PM

Why is WWE a whore when it comes to mainstream media, but even if you watched all their product you'd have no idea Cena was in Trainwreck? I understand it's an R rated movie, but I don't get it.

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2015 09:45 PM

Goes against what they have build and portrayed as Cena's character in the WWE.

Either that, they didn't help fund the film, or the studio itself didn't pay them any ad money to promote it.

DAMN iNATOR 07-17-2015 09:53 PM

Can we change the thread title of the "R.I.P. Rusev" thread to "#LOLRIPTNA"? I don't think it's fair to the company, or their 3 remaining fans, to leave it in it's misery any longer.

GD 07-17-2015 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4668460)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U were big in Japan? Good for u I was watching attitude era and punchin people in the mouth the whole time <a href="https://twitter.com/WWENXT">@WWENXT</a> by the way ur name again?</p>&mdash; Alex Riley (@AlexRileyWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexRileyWWE/status/621715627594645504">July 16, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Alex Riley is a dumbass.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg (Post 4668464)
who was he referring to?

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4668470)
Jushin Liger, I think.

I sincerely hope that it is a work.

Mr. Nerfect 07-17-2015 11:15 PM

I assume it probably is a work.

Mr. Nerfect 07-17-2015 11:16 PM

Wasn't WWE talking through some stuff with EVOLVE too? Very curious times for the WWE's developmental network.

Mr. Nerfect 07-17-2015 11:20 PM

Man, TNA is not in great shape. Oh well, I guess it's everyone else's gain.

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2015 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4668768)
Wasn't WWE talking through some stuff with EVOLVE too? Very curious times for the WWE's developmental network.

Think the speculation was Evolve would become their true developmental brand while NXT stays what it is now with having indie stars and almost tv ready people as the main focus.

WWE quickly realized that NXT no longer was an actual developmental brand once they started touring and were getting rave reviews compared to the main shows. Ended up being an unintended side effect of Triple H/WWE being very hands off with the brand that it started to do a much better job than RAW/Smackdown was doing with creating great shows and storylines.

Mr. Nerfect 07-17-2015 11:55 PM

The WWE should probably have a few little learning leagues over the place. With the growth and specific vision that NXT has, it would make sense to have other places for guys to round themselves out some more. A place in Memphis run by Jerry Lawler could be cool. Tracy Smothers, Tom Prichard and Brian Kendrick could all be trainers there.

Black Widow 07-18-2015 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 4667011)
Because she's got an awesome story? Did you even bother to read it?

http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/f...-rack-20150714

Well they put that kid on the cover that blew up Boston so Fuck them i don't care what they say.

DAMN iNATOR 07-18-2015 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AJ lee's (Post 4668807)
Well they put that kid on the cover that blew up Boston so Fuck them i don't care what they say.

Yes, that's right, Dzhokar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev both TOTALLY destroyed the entire city of Boston, as opposed to just horrifically maiming and killing dozens or hundreds of people in the Boston Marathon bombing. :roll:

Vastardikai 07-18-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4668798)
The WWE should probably have a few little learning leagues over the place. With the growth and specific vision that NXT has, it would make sense to have other places for guys to round themselves out some more. A place in Memphis run by Jerry Lawler could be cool. Tracy Smothers, Tom Prichard and Brian Kendrick could all be trainers there.

I've been a huge proponent of reviving the territories as a developmental system and such. The actual tours feature your top champ, tag champs, whoever they're feuding with, and a special attraction feud, but use the locals to fill the rest of Raw and Smackdown.

As for the territories themselves, I say 7 is a good number. Why? Each night on WWE Network, you have a show featuring each territory. They get their own titles and develop their own stars. Every so often, the local stars move, the feuds change, etc. Want to be on the tour? Step up your game.

Best of all, the Casuals won't get burned out from the 834th Orton vs Sheamus match of the year. Especially if Sheamus is the top dog of NXT NW and Orton rules NXT Midwest.

Ruien 07-18-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4668697)
Can we change the thread title of the "R.I.P. Rusev" thread to "#LOLRIPTNA"? I don't think it's fair to the company, or their 3 remaining fans, to leave it in it's misery any longer.

The title needs to be approved by STD.

Mercenary 07-18-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4668798)
The WWE should probably have a few little learning leagues over the place. With the growth and specific vision that NXT has, it would make sense to have other places for guys to round themselves out some more. A place in Memphis run by Jerry Lawler could be cool. Tracy Smothers, Tom Prichard and Brian Kendrick could all be trainers there.


Tracy Smothers won't work for WWE he is up Billy Jack Haynes ass

Vastardikai 07-18-2015 12:45 PM

Tracy Smothers vs a bear.

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Your argument is invalid.

Tom Guycott 07-18-2015 12:58 PM

"If it doesn't work on a bear, you don't do it in the ring!" -Daniel Bryan

Dark One 07-18-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4668760)
I sincerely hope that it is a work.

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4668767)
I assume it probably is a work.

I don't know, guys, unless Alex Riley's gimmick is "dumb motherfucker posting insane things on Twitter."

This isn't a one-time thing. That's pretty much what his entire account is like.

Cool King 07-18-2015 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4668972)
"If it doesn't work on a bear, you don't do it in the ring!" -Daniel Bryan

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Lock Jaw 07-18-2015 03:18 PM

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Cool King 07-18-2015 03:25 PM

I had no idea who that guy was. I thought maybe he was an old baseball player or something, so I had to "Google him".

Turns out he's an actor from many shows, films and video games, all which I have never watched or played.

That explains why I didn't know who he was.

GD 07-18-2015 04:30 PM

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GD 07-18-2015 04:32 PM

I miss the World Heavyweight Championship. Cena could've made it important instead of the United States Championship.

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_la...2026146133.jpg

GD 07-18-2015 04:33 PM

Remember when people were wishing for the Undisputed belt to be brought back when Cena was running around with the spinner belt?

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_la...1058881362.jpg

Emperor Smeat 07-18-2015 05:36 PM

According to Dave Meltzer from the Observer, besides the likelihood of WWE trying to get NJPW away from ROH, the WWE is also going after arenas ROH runs shows at.

Trying to get exclusive deals done with those arenas so the only wrestling shows they'd allow would be ones from the WWE. Those arenas are a lot smaller than what the WWE usually runs shows in but WWE is making concessions just so that ROH has fewer places to run their own shows.

In turn, ROH would have to start looking at more expensive places to run their shows if the WWE ends up succeeding with this plan.

Lock Jaw 07-18-2015 05:40 PM

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Lock Jaw 07-18-2015 05:42 PM

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Simple Fan 07-18-2015 06:05 PM

I hope it works, if ROH starts doing shows in bigger arenas it would grow that brand if they can fill them.

XL 07-18-2015 06:54 PM

What's Vince trying to achieve with this?

Heisenberg 07-18-2015 07:27 PM

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fuckin cool

Ruien 07-18-2015 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4669103)
What's Vince trying to achieve with this?

A monopoly. Get all the good young talent to go to NXT instead of other promotions.

Mr. Nerfect 07-18-2015 07:44 PM

I don't know. Triple H is behind development these days, and I think he knows how important it is for young guys to get experience before coming to the WWE. Shows like Tough Enough run counter to this, but I don't think the WWE is really trying to bleed ROH out.

I think it's more likely we see some ROH guys used to bolster NXT and help the guys that the WWE really wants to be its next crop of stars get to that next level in the ring. It might be some sort of thing like they initially had with Samoa Joe, where they can trial some guys and use them for tour shows, but there won't be any immediate plans to main roster them.

Fuck, given that Sinclair Broadcasting own ROH now, it wouldn't surprise me to just see the WWE buy ROH and let it keep running and essentially use it as a developmental territory.

I think the New Japan stuff is to advertise the guys they have, so they can tell complete stories about them and get some emotional investment behind them from viewers. But I also think it's an attempt to boost the WWE Network's sales in Japan. With such a large population that embrace new technological media -- Japan would be an idea market for the WWE to get into. Professional wrestling is on a downturn there too, but New Japan have been holding up and manage to create legitimate pop-culture stars out of some of its guys, and New Japan World is up and running. I don't think the WWE is going to try and run New Japan World off the market, but I think they want to get nice and cozy next to them -- and that might mean appealing to their fanbase.

Disturbed316 07-18-2015 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4669050)
I had no idea who that guy was. I thought maybe he was an old baseball player or something, so I had to "Google him".

Turns out he's an actor from many shows, films and video games, all which I have never watched or played.

That explains why I didn't know who he was.

Really? None of them?

Mr. Nerfect 07-18-2015 07:51 PM

I don't recognize him either, and I'm a pretty large consumer of crap.

Innovator 07-18-2015 07:55 PM

He's on Walking Dead

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-18-2015 08:04 PM

John DiMaggio is a true clone of the Fella King.

Emperor Smeat 07-18-2015 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by im just a fan (Post 4669083)
I hope it works, if ROH starts doing shows in bigger arenas it would grow that brand if they can fill them.

Considering Sinclair barely gives them enough money as is, them having to run in larger or more expensive arenas probably going to wreck their finances maybe even to TNA-type levels.

Supposedly they lost a good amount of money from the NJPW-ROH ppv events this year. Only reason they managed to get some big names this year was them constantly begging for Sinclair to open up their checkbook for the events. If Sinclair had their way, either was going to be just 1-2 NJPW stars or a couple lower tier cheaper guys.

Droford 07-18-2015 08:32 PM

ROH just needs to take over TNAs studio at Universal since they won't be needing it much longer

Mr. Nerfect 07-18-2015 08:40 PM

Oh, that's John DiMaggio. I know his voice. Cheese it.

Nicky Fives 07-18-2015 08:47 PM

Watched Trainwreck in theaters on Friday night.... saw a whole bunch more of John Cena than I was thinking I would....lots of Naked Cena ass.....

Mr. Nerfect 07-18-2015 08:53 PM

My now ideal SummerSlam card:

Triple Threat Match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Seth Rollins (c) vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns

-Rollins retains the World Title at Battleground when The Undertaker returns and makes Lesnar his target. Reigns defeats Bray Wyatt and wants the title shot. Dean Ambrose interjects himself (possibly violently) and doesn't want to be overshadowed. Cue the Triple Threat everybody wants to see.

The Beast vs. The Phenom
Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker

-The gong goes off at Battleground and Taker is in the ring ready to Tombstone Brock. I know this isn't everybody's favorite match, but it does make sense for Taker to have a rematch with Brock in mind, and it keeps the WWE World Title on Rollins for a little while longer.

WrestleMania Rematch
Triple H vs. Sting

-I'm not too big on Sting being at SummerSlam, but if he is, I guess it would make sense for Sting to get his win back. I'd be all for Cesaro vs. Sting, but I can't see that happening.

United States Championship
If John Cena loses, he can never challenge for the United States Championship again
Kevin Owens (c) vs. John Cena

-Owens vs. Cena has been a bright spot for the WWE. When Owens wins the US Title at Battleground, does Cena just walk off into the sunset? Of course he's going to try and get another match against Owens. The caveat being added that Cena needs to win this match to ever be US Champion again is both a heat-builder for Owens, and something that would put the Cenation on edge.

Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt

-Orton beats Sheamus at Battleground. I know people don't like MITB winners losing all the time, but a loss to Orton hardly hurts Sheamus. Orton looks good in his hometown and reminds people that he matters. Bray Wyatt, off his loss to Reigns, targets Orton as a sharpening tool for his own skills, so he can one day challenge Reigns again and beat him. "Make me better, Randy."

Rusev vs. Dolph Ziggler

-This one is pretty obvious. These two have issues and want to fight at SummerSlam. Lana is in the corner of Ziggler and Summer Rae is in the corner of Rusev.

3 vs. 3 vs. 3
The Bella Army vs. Paige, Charlotte & Becky Lynch vs. Team BAD

-These girls are good enough to make this work. They could knock this off at Battleground, but they might be saving it for SummerSlam. Fair enough.

Intercontinental Championship
Cesaro (c) vs. Chris Jericho

-Ryback plays injured for a bit longer and Cesaro wins the IC Title in a re-established Triple Threat at Battleground. Lana is the force behind getting Cesaro into the match, as she's taken him on as a client after being impressed by his victory over Rusev on SmackDown. Cesaro becomes a fighting IC Champion, and defends the title against The Miz, Big Show, Rusev (with a little help from Ziggler to protect Rusev) and Neville heading into this match with the greatest Intercontinental Champion of all-time. Jericho gets announced as being from Manhasset, New York for this one.

WWE Tag Team Championship
The New Day (c) vs. Stardust & Neville

-The New Day steal the Tag Titles from The Prime Time Players in the coming weeks. Maybe not at Battleground, but sometime. Stardust & Neville's little rivalry comes to a head in a third match, where Neville gets the clean win with the Red Arrow. The Ascension come out and say that when they are down trawling the WWE, there will be no more heroes. Welcome to the wasteland. They beat-down Neville, but something snaps in Stardust and he returns to the ring to make the save. Stardust begins his journey to hero status, or pretends to still be a villain whilst clearly having a heart of gold. Something like that. They become the #1 Contenders for the Tag Team Titles and we have this fun little match. Oh, and Arrow shuts up Xavier Woods in this match.

Kickoff Six-Man Tag Team Match
King Barrett, Big Show & The Miz vs. The Prime Time Players & R-Truth

-I really don't want Barrett vs. Truth to continue, but I'm just scrapping this together. The Miz and Big Show find themselves united after being thrown a curve-ball at Battleground. Miz reasons that they worked well together, even if they do loathe each other. "Do you want to be a champion or not?" They also both feel a bit abused by The Authority's lack of recent support for them. R-Truth turns on The Prime Time Players here, and joins rank with Miz and Big Show. Miz sort of puts together a bit of a faction to try and make himself relevant again.

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-18-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4669150)
Oh, that's John DiMaggio. I know his voice. Cheese it.

It's not John DiMaggio. But Bender is the true Sheamus clone.

Mercenary 07-18-2015 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4669158)
It's not John DiMaggio. But Bender is the true Sheamus clone.

No way Beeker is


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