Yeah. Not sure how I feel about that.

I'm gonna be 'that guy' and say Clark looks to handsome.

Otherwise a great pic, nice to see things moving on.

Nah, I was thinking that too Kalyx. Don't know the context of the picture though. Not gonna judge anything yet.

Apparently some of the first reviews for GL have hit. They range from awful to mediocre.

We may have guessed as much.

I'm shocked lol!

Trailers were fucking awful

The other "Man of Steel" news lately has been a photo making the rounds this week of Henry Cavill and Amy Adams seemingly in character. As soon as it appeared though it was quickly shot down, the shot revealed to be a screen capture from the recently finished long-running "Smallville" with Cavill and Adams' heads superimposed over Tom Welling and Erica Durance's.

Also supposedly Russell Crowe in talks for Jor-El

That makes sense, production shouldn't have started yet.

I think he has the part.

24% on Rotten Tomatoes so far. Ugh.

Still going to see it tho.

Full marks from that guy pretty much means it's shit.

Went to a midnight screening.

It was a CGI-fest, but it almost had to be because of the nature of the film.

Reynolds was solid as Jordan. I do buy him as more of a Flash, but that's just me.

I actually enjoyed it, but that's because I'm a Green Lantern nerd. And, the theater was packed.

100 Bullets gonna possibly be a TV Show:


I know a lot of people loved 100 Bullets. Did not care for it myself, and will probably pass on the TV Series unless I start hearing great things about it.

What's the source on that? I just want to pass it along to a friend.

Chris Meloni is in talks for an undisclosed role in Man of Steel. I see him as Perry White.

Must be awful being a DC fan right now. Green Lantern tanked beyond fucking belief and the whole universe is getting a reboot.

Dark Knight Rises next year. DC Animated DVDs hasn't fucked up yet. DC still got TV on lock. It's all good for the most part.

http://i.newsarama.com/images/new-jla_02.jpg

Bleh.

Alright I'm digging Superman. Batman looks like the Arkham Asylum version so that's alright. Diana needs her gold and stars but whatever her wardrobe is a shuffle these days. Who does Arthur sleep with to stay on the team?

Is there an HD version of the pic? I need it for my collection.

Digging Superman's new look = YOUR OPINIONS ARE MOOT :foc:


/Overblown Internet Reaction

Superman's belt needs to be yellow (or I guess gold now).

Kevin Conroy, otherwise known as the one true god damn Batman, tweeted that he's not retiring his voice work as Batman.

Wonder Woman seems more like a hassle to write; two cap'd letters, a space. Batman and Superman kinda rolls off the fingers. In regard to titles, I will formally spell out Wonder Woman.

I'm sorry it bothers you. If it makes you feel any better, fuck off.

lol seriously

Superman should never be in anything resembling armor.

That's like putting a tank inside a tank.

Wonder Woman doesn't look bad, it just doesn't fit her, really. Nothing fits her outside of the classic, imo. That costume would be great for donna troy or wonder girl though.

Aquaman and flash look alright.

Cyborg looks like a crappy 90's x-force villain.

I don't think it's armor so much as 'Kryptonian tech', though he wouldn't need that either.

Nikes would probably tear up after a few 1000 miles a minute.

Just noticed, apart from all of the people who don't have cowls sporting high-collars, now they all have the same kind of V-shaped belts. Which just screams "all of these costumes were designed by the same guy."

I know I'm still going on bitching and moaning about the redesigns, but it seriously annoys me how willing DC is to throw away 70+ years of iconography that's embedded into the popular unconscious, just because Jim Lee thinks these costumes look cooler.

You didn't think that way about high boots, capes, and external underwear?

To be fair, the only guys who had the external underwear and stuck with it were Superman and Batman. And at least then they were all designed by different people, even if all of those different people were just trying to rip off Siegel and Shuster.

I like it.

Marvel wasn't as big on capes as DC.

Superman
Batman
Robin
Supergirl
Powergirl
Huntress
Captain Marvel
Dr Fate
Martian Manhunter
Diana (on occasion)
Raven
...Maybe more.

And only Batman was known as the Caped Crusader, to my knowledge.

Superboy wore jeans. He didn't play that shit.

That's alright.

Did anybody see that Green Lantern TAS trailer?

Yeah but they have a point.

Why is Superman wearing a turtle neck?

To better hide his costume under his work clothes.

Gets chilly out in space.

Remember when they tried to put the Fortress of Solitude in the jungle?

Yes. Yes I do.

Well, you're wrong.

Haven't kept up much with the DC movie thread, so dunno if this was discussed or whatever, but was looking up Green Lantern on IMDB and Wikipedia and it seems the movie has bombed big time! (So far anyway).

Can't say I'm surprised. The trailer looked pretty crappy, and seriously come on, nobody (outside of comic fans) gives a shit about any DC characters who aren't Batman and Superman.

People would give a shit if they didn't clown all through production. I mean, who gave a shit about Iron Man, Thor, or Blade? They're not X-Men or Spider-Man, but they were well made. Green Lantern wasn't well made.

True... I was incredibly surprised at how well-received the Iron Man films were...

Anyway, I'm sure DC will make up for this with The Dark Knight Rises (and even though I haven't seen Green Lantern, so I won't judge it until I have, I'll still buy the DVD just to fulfill my comic-collector urge to own all the movies).

No, DC will not make up for it with another movie. That's Nolan's show, I won't make him pay penance points for Martin's fuck up. Everything, from the lead casting to the damn suit, were 'wtf' updates. A train wreck in the making with everything we heard and then... the train wrecked.

The Dark Knight Rises will be kick-ass, but that won't change this bomb. They shouldn't get off that lucky.

Wow KT... so much hatred... :(

I'm sure Wonder Woman will make up for Green Lantern when it comes out in 2018.

I hate seeing bad productions. I feel there's very little reason to suck that bad. You don't have to rewrite history, or break records, but don't do silly things like cast Ryan funny-man Reynolds as a founding member of the Justice League, and have an all CG suit trying to make some technical point.

And I read about the requisite after-movie scene. No comment there, other than next time they wanna bite off Marvel Studios - plan it out.

:love:

Maybe I'm reading too much into that, but........possible they're pulling from No Man's Land? Because that would be fucking awesome if they were.

Oh fuck that would be crazy.

From all the story rumors, character castings and spoiler I read, I think it's doubtful. If they were going to do No Man's Land, they'd have had to have Gotham be destroyed in the first one so they can spend three films building it back up. I think Nolan's going in different direction to help tie up the story and end on a high note.

you can adapt the story to fit a movie's time. How many year long comic arcs we already seen get crunched into one movie? One act? One scene? It's not so hard.

I agree, but No Man's Land is such a giant arc that it'd be a waste of time to tie it into the final film of a trilogy. If they're going to do it, they should either release via DC Animated, or, when the series reboots, start from the beginning.

I just have a hard time seeing Nolan incorporate NML into the already complex story he's trying to finish.

It would work as an animated movie nicely.

He doesn't need to adapt and fit the whole story in the movie. He could just adapt the "There's an Earthquake" part and go on his on way.

Yea, but that's a bit of a cop out. I never read the NML comic, but I did read the novelization, and I enjoyed it immensely. I'd feel pretty cheated if all I got was the earthquake part and that's it.

If they're going to adapt a comic storyline, they should adapt it right. DC Animated has done a pretty solid job thus far, and I'd love for NML to be the next Batman project.

That's funny. I also read the No Man's Land novelization, but not any of the comics.

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Can't wait for this one to come out

Neither can I. Year One is one of my favorite graphic novels ever, so knowing I actually get to watch a film based on such is exciting. Liked what I saw in the trailer.

It is like DC is trying real hard to get me to hate Superman.

New reports on the reboot saying that both Ma and Pa Kent are going to be dead, and Superman is going to be more "alien" and less "Clark Kent"/human. Hence why he takes to wearing the "Kryptonian battle armor". More focus on him being "alienated" and "isolated" rather than "human".

Pretty sure all of that is the opposite of what Superman should be. The point of Superman, a point that we just had some massive storylines about, is that he isn't just an alien. He think and feels like a human. Clark Kent is Superman. Not Superman is Clark Kent.

Then there is Supergirl, who they seem to have reset to just arriving to Earth again, and thus are going to also be doing the whole "alienated"/"isolated"/"not sure if she wants to be a hero" thing. In recent years they finally moved past all of that and actually made Supergirl enjoyable. Now it is back to square one with a bad costume.

Then Superboy, I don't even know what the hell is going on with.

DC: Fuck the guy who made us popular in the first place, we only give a shit about Batman now.

Sounds like they're trying to add an unnecessary layer of depth with Supes by passing him off as some out of place loner, which, even to me, a non Superman fan, is kind of ridiculous. His charm and selling point is that, even though he is an alien, and even though he's a God amongst men, he's still one of them, and and fights for them because they are his people.

Otherwise, why in God's name would he care to fight for Earth. If he is alienated/isolated, has no parents to lacth onto or protect, and has no real other deep, personal, resonating reason to protect Earth, what's the point?

Maybe I'm missing something...

The Clark Kent mindset was what I always loved about Superman. Even though he's an invulnerable, nigh-omnipotent alien, he always just saw himself as a country yokel who grew up on a farm. When he's not punching out gods and bench-pressing continents, he'd be watching football with his dad or taking his wife out to dinner. Kind of the opposite of Batman, who absolutely has to believe his own hype in order to be who he is, Superman does unbelievable things but doesn't believe his hype at all. That was what made Superman a great character: that juxtaposition of the absolutely incredible and the everyday and mundane.

This, though? Now he's just fucking Doctor Manhattan.

Also:

So we're just jumping straight into the comic where Superman gets the shit beaten out of him by Batman like every single other crossover in the last thirty years? I mean, I know every writer since Frank Miller has taken turns making Superman look like shit so Batman looks cooler by comparison (basically making him the Cyclops to Bruce's Wolverine), but could you at least bother to build the guy up a little bit before jobbing him out to Batman?

Green Arrow also trading in his trademark mustache/goatee combo for mutton chops:

Jesus Christ, is he getting grooming tips from Wolverine now?

One of my favorite Superman moments:



Wasn't from a particularly stunning story or anything, but the moment was stunning.

Just thought I would share this image before Superman's humanity is obliterated in the reboot. (<--- Judging it before I read it)

If there was one thing I liked about Byrne's reboot of Superman back in the 80s (I infinitely prefer Mark Waid's take on the origin myself), it would be the fact that he brought Ma and Pa Kent back and kept them as recurring characters. It made him much more identifiable, the idea that even though he's indestructible, he doesn't know everything, and still has to go home every once in a while to get advice from his dad.

So of course we're doing away with that so he can bitch and moan about how he doesn't fit in with humans.

Yeah, I was a big fan of both of his parents being alive. I'd settle for just one, but I like both being around. The above panels I posted being a great example of why.

Next up in DC Animated Movies:

Justice League: Doom inspired by the "Tower of Babel" storyline from JLA. Which I know nothing about.

Superman vs. The Elite which has potential to be awesome. Loved Manchester Black.

Annnnnddd....

Batman: The Dark Knight Returns slated to be a TWO-PART film.

Fucking epic.

I wonder if Ironside will return to playing DKR Batman like that TAS sequence.

damn..fucking crazy.
Tower of Babel was fucking awesome. Whoever hasn't read it should check it out.

They still have to do the Killing Joke with Mark Hamil and Kevin Conroy.

That's how Mark Hamil should go out.

That would be amazing.

He's been saying City will be it for him. Bet he'll come back if someone gives him an even better story to tell.

This whole DCnU thing is so fucking stupid. I'm reading interview after interview trying to understand what the fuck they're going for. Mixed messages, contradictions in continuity, vague objectives. This is a mess. And yeah, more confusing than what it was before the reboot - a complete fail considering the whole point of this.

Like a lot of the updated costumes, but the whole premise reeks of desperation and stunt. Fuck this.

I'm still betting it's only going to last a year, tops, before they're shamed into bringing back the 'classic' DCU.

This whole thing is indicative of my main issue with DC. When Marvel launched the Ultimate line (not exactly the same thing, I know, but a similar idea), they kept it simple. X-Men, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Avengers. It was only when they started to get really convoluted and overpopulated that the whole line came crumbling down. DC does a relaunch, and we've got seven Bat-books right out of the gate. DC never does anything simple.

Not a knock on DC necessarily. They tell good stories. But it's just not at all accessible for a casual comic reader like me.

What? You telling me new readers aren't going to buy all 52 books?!

If this was a separate continuity altogether like Ultimate Marvel, I wouldn't have anywhere near as big of a problem with it as I do. That way they could do their 'fresh and modern' approach to the DCU while keeping the original continuity intact. Instead they're chucking out the current mythos and replacing it with a big confused mess of stuff they want to reboot and stuff they want to keep.

They shoulda just expanded on the Earth-One line.

JMS is still working on a Superman: Earth-One sequel. Read some stuff about it, and apparently a plot in it deals with Superman's sexual frustrations and him not being able to be with a woman because he would DESTROY them with his penis.

I'm cutting down on all comics and only have interest in like 2 DC books- Justice League and Action Comics (and Batman Inc whenever it's back)

If anything I can read about what happens to the 'universe' online, don't really care to spend time on so many books these days.

Just watched the episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold with Superman. Pretty amazing.

Chock full of Silver Age Superdickery.

Images from that ep:

Love that show so much.

Yeah, don't watch it as much as I should.

So, next month DC Comics launches 52 new #1s! So make your picks now in the... DC Cancellation Pool! PM me ten picks of which books you think will be canceled first! Winner gets nothing!

I will make my picks publicly now so there is no accusations of me changing my own picks:

1) Hawk and Dove
2) O.M.A.C.
3) Blackhawks
4) I, Vampire
5) Voodoo
6) Batwing
7) Suicide Squad
8) Legion Lost
9) Men of War
10) Red Hood and the Outlaws

Information about all 52 titles can be found at: http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/comics/?dat=20110907

So Laurence Fishbourne is going to be Perry White in Man of Steel.