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Mr. Nerfect 08-24-2019 12:40 AM

Gedo could have easily done something else. Jay White was with Gedo before they knew 100% that Omega was leaving. There were negotiations going on after Wrestle Kingdom. I think the White push is completely intentional.

ClockShot 08-24-2019 07:27 AM

Is the Super-J Cup on a delay on NJPW World?

Was looking around Thursday night and all they had was the free match from the '16 finals with KUSHIDA and Kanemaru.

Jordan 08-24-2019 09:49 AM

Yes It's only airing on PPV via Fite. Airs in a few weeks on Japan World.

Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2019 03:13 PM

It seems New Japan might be doing a 4 wrestlers, 3 title matches, 2 nights, 1 champion thing between Okada, Ibushi, Naito and maybe Jay White. Although it could very easily be Tanahashi in place of White. Ibushi said he wants to defend the IWGP Title on 5th.

So many interesting possibilities. I mean, there’s nothing stopping them from having Omega get back into things and doing Okada/Naito and Ibushi/Omega on Liger’s retirement show. It will probably be White, but that lends itself to a better story.

There’s stuff brewing between Tanahashi and Suzuki, and Shibata and KENTA. You’ll likely have Moxley dropping the US Title to somebody (probably Juice). It should be an amazing weekend.

Any word on who Liger is likely to face? Who is the guy holding together the junior heavyweight side of things? Think they give it to someone emerging?

Fignuts 08-25-2019 03:22 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2019 03:41 PM

I would rather see Suzuki win the US Title. Not sure they go that route though.

Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2019 03:42 PM

I’ve got this odd desire to see Goto vs. Sanada.

Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2019 07:51 PM

They've protected Jericho vs. Tanahashi, haven't they? I imagine that's a Dome match, so maybe that does free up Suzuki for Mox?

Emperor Smeat 08-25-2019 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5279552)
Any word on who Liger is likely to face? Who is the guy holding together the junior heavyweight side of things? Think they give it to someone emerging?

Seemed for a while NJPW was hinting at Suzuki vs. Liger for Liger's retirement match but who knows if they actually go ahead with it.

Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2019 08:08 PM

I could go for Suzuki beating Mox night 1 for the US Title and then beating Liger night 2.

Emperor Smeat 08-26-2019 03:27 AM

NJPW teasing another potential matchup for Liger's retirement based on last night's Super J-Cup Finals.

SPOILER: show

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ELP won the J Cup beating Dragon Lee in the finals. Teasing Liger vs. ELP at the Tokyo Dome.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1165820837234008065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Spoiler tag used since it reveals who won the tournament for those interested in watching it once it gets uploaded to New Japan World.

Ultra Mantis 08-26-2019 08:12 AM

The Young Lions Cup is returning during the DESTRUCTION tour, Round Robin style again.

Shota Umino
Ren Narita
Yota Tsuji
Yuya Uemura
Clark Connors (LA Dojo)
Karl Fredericks (LA Dojo)
Alex Coughlin (LA Dojo)
Michael Richards (Fale Dojo)


You'd think Shota would easily take this to lead to his excursion but they've been putting over the LA Dojo boys over strong lately.

mike adamle 08-27-2019 04:23 PM

Don't worry everyone, I just scored front row seats to the Hammerstein show. Once I saw Ishii on the card I had to.

ClockShot 08-27-2019 04:50 PM

Sold out. So, I assume you got them from one of the other ticket outlets or from a private seller.

Pay a lot? Or get a steal?

mike adamle 08-27-2019 05:15 PM

Ticketmaster has resale tickets on their seat map.

Well considering the other front row seats on there are going for $700 and $800 my $350 ticket wasn't too bad!

I love the Hammerstein, I try to go to every show I can and get the best seats I can.

Also gonna be front row for Bloodsport but not as excited for that considering Moxley is out now and the lineup is pretty lame.

Jordan 08-28-2019 08:50 AM

The last row of Hammerstein is going for $80 ... I may pick up a single. Thoughts? I went to MSG by myself and still had fun.

mike adamle 08-28-2019 09:30 AM

Go for it! Hammerstein shows have such a fun atmosphere. You'll have fun either way. I went to Mania on my own and had a blast.

ClockShot 08-28-2019 10:06 AM

Hammerstein is like 1 or 2 blocks away from MSG. Really can't get lost.

Also, if you're an Okada fan, it'll be your last chance to see him since he's not going to Philly. Just Boston and NYC.

DO IT!, Jordan.

Jordan 08-28-2019 11:45 AM

I won't get lost, I use to live above the Hammerstein! It was my dorm!

I'm gonna buy the ticket. Anyone going we should have a beer or two before!

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2019 12:54 PM

This Royal Quest show is a bit of a mess right now in terms of production.

First the commentary audio got busted early on, then stream keeps lagging and losing connection, and now part of the entrance tron broke.

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2019 02:43 PM

KENTA vs Ishii was very good overall despite KENTA likely suffering a concussion at one point.

SPOILER: show
KENTA won the NEVER title

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2019 03:10 PM

Tanahashi vs. Sabre Jr for the RevoPro British title was pretty great overall.

SPOILER: show
Tanahashi won the belt.

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2019 03:19 PM

:lol: at the Kaze Ni Nare chant for Suzuki blew out FITE's audio for a brief moment.

If it wasn't for Impact's Wrestlemania weekend show, this show would go down as the worst I've seen soo far this year in terms of production issues. Wrestling-wise, its been pretty good to great.

ClockShot 08-31-2019 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5280562)
This Royal Quest show is a bit of a mess right now in terms of production.

First the commentary audio got busted early on, then stream keeps lagging and losing connection, and now part of the entrance tron broke.

And FITE wants a few days of exclusivity before this pops on NJPW World in exchange for production costs, pyro, etc.

Mmmmhmmmm. Must be one cheap setup they're using.

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2019 03:57 PM

Suzuki vs Okada was great despite FITE deciding to take a rest break in the middle of it.

Royal Quest was very good overall.

slik 09-02-2019 05:16 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kenta looked badly concussed at NJPW Royal Quest. �� <a href="https://t.co/QVpc6M81mT">pic.twitter.com/QVpc6M81mT</a></p>&mdash; Meltzer Said What? (@MeltzerSaidWhat) <a href="https://twitter.com/MeltzerSaidWhat/status/1168367294323527680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ClockShot 09-02-2019 05:23 PM

Sweet. Royal Quest is up on NJPW World.

Got something to watch tonight.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2019 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5281241)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kenta looked badly concussed at NJPW Royal Quest. �� <a href="https://t.co/QVpc6M81mT">pic.twitter.com/QVpc6M81mT</a></p>&mdash; Meltzer Said What? (@MeltzerSaidWhat) <a href="https://twitter.com/MeltzerSaidWhat/status/1168367294323527680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That’s uncomfortable to watch.

KENTA has been so good in 2019. I said it at the Royal Rumble, but he’s such a good worker. His facial expressions and demeanour and all that. The angle with him and Shibata was the best thing in wrestling this year.

AEW has made me appreciate New Japan more. I want AEW to succeed, but their goofy philosophy just doesn’t click with me. New Japan might again be my best hope to enjoy pro-wrestling.

mike adamle 09-04-2019 06:51 AM

Ive gotta say it; Kota Ibushi is way better without Kenny Omega

Jordan 09-04-2019 07:32 AM

Royal Quest was really good. All the shows this weekend were really good it hard to say the best one.

mike adamle 09-04-2019 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5281771)
Ive gotta say it; Kota Ibushi is way better without Kenny Omega

Eh nevermind. I thought he was pretty decent during most of his G1 run but just got around to watching the final where he was terrible. Why did he look like he was about to cry after every pin attempt?

Mr. Nerfect 09-07-2019 10:27 PM

Kota Ibushi is weird to me. I think of him as good, and I get excited about match concepts with him, but whenever I see him against anyone that isn't Tanahashi or Nakamura, he bothers the fuck out of me. That being said, I am looking forward to Okada vs. Ibushi at WK.

mike adamle 09-07-2019 11:00 PM

He just has the worst facial expressions sometimes. You don't have to look like your dog died after every near fall

Mr. Nerfect 09-08-2019 02:37 AM

I can’t believe I heard Dave say he was a better seller than Ric Flair, lol.

ClockShot 09-08-2019 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5282459)
Kota Ibushi is weird to me. I think of him as good, and I get excited about match concepts with him, but whenever I see him against anyone that isn't Tanahashi or Nakamura, he bothers the fuck out of me. That being said, I am looking forward to Okada vs. Ibushi at WK.

That haircut he has pisses me off. He's good. But I always ask "how can he see through those bangs across his eyes?"

Emperor Smeat 09-09-2019 11:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ROCK 'N' ROLL EXPRESS TO MAKE NJPW DEBUTS!<br><br>The legendary tag team join Roppongi 3K and Lance Archer as the latest names confirmed for Fighting Spirit Unleashed! <br><br>Check out the details, including a special video from Ricky and Robert!<a href="https://t.co/Fo9z6bpHje">https://t.co/Fo9z6bpHje</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJPWFS?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJPWFS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpw</a> <a href="https://t.co/cVrMKMnuO1">pic.twitter.com/cVrMKMnuO1</a></p>&mdash; NJPW Global (@njpwglobal) <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1171258156963508224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 09-09-2019 11:57 PM

I don’t know how I feel about that. They’re still two excellent workers, but it’s just odd to imagine how old they are. Good for them though.

ClockShot 09-10-2019 08:47 AM

Chase Owens will finally prove the critics he's better than Ricky Morton once and for all.

Emperor Smeat 09-16-2019 10:53 PM

Based on Suzuki's post-match promo from earlier today, evil Liger (Kishin) is basically a lock to happen one last time.

Maybe even for his retirement match if NJPW holds off Suzkui vs. Liger for that long.

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mike adamle 09-22-2019 08:37 AM

So have they announced any matches for any of the cards on the east coast next week?

ClockShot 09-22-2019 10:09 AM

Only tidbits that came out are the names confirmed for the tour and that tweet Smeat posted a few posts above.

As far as an acutal card, probably hear something this week.

Emperor Smeat 09-22-2019 09:01 PM

Kishin Liger ended up making a special appearance at today's Destruction in Kobe event.

Figured NJPW would have saved that moment for a later event this year or possibly Wrestle Kingdom but instead got it out of the way pretty quickly.

Vastardikai 09-22-2019 10:40 PM

The only thing more shocking than Kane being bald is Liger being bald.

Emperor Smeat 09-23-2019 05:06 PM

Seems NJPW is doing a bit of a shakeup with their current batch of Young Lions.

They released a video revealing Ren Narita is heading over to the LA Dojo and Jon Moxley's adopted son Shota Umino teased in a recent promo that he wants to start his excursion phase.

Tom Guycott 09-24-2019 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5286519)
Seems NJPW is doing a bit of a shakeup with their current batch of Young Lions.

They released a video revealing Ren Narita is heading over to the LA Dojo and Jon Moxley's adopted son Shota Umino teased in a recent promo that he wants to start his excursion phase.

I'd love to see him open a package with a note saying "Give em hell, Shooter", and the box contains a leather jacket with Shota spray painted on the back in orange kanji.

Tom Guycott 09-24-2019 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5286454)
The only thing more shocking than Kane being bald is Liger being bald.

Eh. I was more surprised at the Joker makeup. Surprise is kinda the wrong word... it's just... a Joker cosplay is kinda played out at this point. Equal parts "OH SHIT!" and "Oh, shit." Liger has been around forever and the hair doesn't like to stick around that long.

mike adamle 09-24-2019 05:35 AM

Really disappointed with the NYC card. Thinking of selling my tickets

Evil Vito 09-24-2019 06:57 AM

Yeah that card is kinda lame considering the insane price to get in.

Ultra Mantis 09-24-2019 07:49 AM

Narita and Umino have officially gone on excursion. Narita is heading to the LA dojo, which is odd since those guys just seem to work local indies. No mention of ROH. Shota is heading to Rev Pro where he should easily be a top guy. Might not get to reunite with his adoptive father for a few years though.

Emperor Smeat 09-24-2019 02:30 PM

NJPW doesn't really use ROH for excursions and tend to favor CMLL more for that stuff.

They must be very pleased with Shibata's work at the LA Dojo to consider it as excursion worthy.

ClockShot 09-24-2019 03:02 PM

Ooof.

Judging by those cards, I think Boston got the best card of the bunch for this weekend.

NYC looks decent, Philly got the short end of the stick.

Ultra Mantis 09-24-2019 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5286790)
NJPW doesn't really use ROH for excursions and tend to favor CMLL more for that stuff.

They must be very pleased with Shibata's work at the LA Dojo to consider it as excursion worthy.

They had Jay White there not too long ago, EVIL also had his there and a lot of the guys they sent to CMLL worked there later into their excursions (Hiromu, SHO, YOH). I guess Finlay was also unofficially on excursion there before he got hurt.

Emperor Smeat 09-24-2019 03:55 PM

Completely forgot EVIL went to ROH first.

Ultra Mantis 09-24-2019 05:44 PM

To be fair, I think ROH forgot he was there for his most of his run.

Emperor Smeat 09-24-2019 06:18 PM

Think his time away also coincided with NJPW still having a partnership with Impact and where I would have been more familiar with guys sent there like SANADA.

Ultra Mantis 09-26-2019 06:31 AM

Not sure about YOH's new gimmick...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">'Truth is, I've always liked poo. My mum came to my Yutenji exhibit and said &quot;You've always been interested in sh*t&quot;. She was right'<br><br>YOH talks about his unique art in this revealing interview!<a href="https://t.co/iEfkH0Ye6V">https://t.co/iEfkH0Ye6V</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpwFS?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpwFS</a> <a href="https://t.co/48JXFx4O69">pic.twitter.com/48JXFx4O69</a></p>&mdash; NJPW Global (@njpwglobal) <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1177161080080084992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan 09-26-2019 10:14 AM

NJPW just announced that New Year's Dash 2020 will be from Ota City Gymnasium this year. Some were thinking the 2nd day of WK could have been "New Years Dash" but no they are running a legit two day super card at Tokyo Dome and a bigger arena (4,000 seats) for New Years Dash. Very ambitious.

ClockShot 09-28-2019 01:13 PM

Anybody catch or hear anything from the Lowell show.

Good, bad?

mike adamle 09-29-2019 09:40 AM

Can't believe no one is talking about NYC last night. New Japan thinks someone tried to sabotage the show. Apparently yesterday morning someone called the private ambulance company that the Hammerstein hires to do their shows and told them the New Japan show was cancelled. Come showtime New Japan thinks the ambulance is stuck in traffic. When they call they come to find out the ambulance company was told the show was cancelled and now doesn't have any ambulances available. The FDNY agreed to lend an ambulance but apparently it's against the rules to do that and it has to be from a private ambulance company. Took an hour and a half before someone got there and the show started.

Other than that great fucking show though.

Ultra Mantis 09-29-2019 11:25 AM

I've seen the video of the executive in ring pleading for forgiveness, poor guy. You'd think the company providing the ambulance would at least verify that instead of just taking some rando's word for it. Glad the show was worth the wait though,

Jordan 09-29-2019 12:03 PM

Sounds very suspect!

Emperor Smeat 09-29-2019 09:14 PM

Apparently the ambulance story is a bit more complicated than simply the ambulance being late or someone prank calling the ambulance company.

The story about someone claiming the show was cancelled was legit but NJPW had a replacement one arrive on time. Problem was it came from the NY fire department which meant they legally needed two at the venue in case one had to leave for an emergency.

Somehow that led to 4 ambulances being at the venue with the 2 from the fire department getting sent away and 2 from an ambulance company staying. NY Commission still refused to allow the show to start until the remaining ambulances were properly set at the venue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
The short version of the story as to why the New Japan show last night at the Hammerstein Ballroom started 90 minutes late, the ambulance story is pretty much legit, but it's far more than that. The company that usually provides ambulances for the building was called the morning of the show to say it was canceled. Those backstage found out at about 5:30 p.m. and ended up getting an FDNY ambulance to the building in time for the show to start. The Athletic Commission rep said that if there was a shooting nearby the ambulance would have to leave and wouldn't accept it or allow the show to go on. A second FDNY ambulance came but it was the same story. Two other ambulances ended up being brought in so at one point there were four ambulances there. At this point the two FDNY ones left since the commission wouldn't accept them. Then somebody tried to tell one of the ambulances (a commission person) that two weren't needed and one of the others could go, but those associated with the show asked, what if somebody needed an ambulance and thus, with only one, there wouldn't be one there, and the commission said they would have to stop the show at that point until the ambulance got back. So they kept two. They also had four doctors, three more than necessary, on their own including one that spoke Japanese. At the time the video played, the two ambulances were there but the commission would not allow the show to start until they were in the back of the building and a stretcher was in the building, as they were in the front of the building when they wanted to start the show and were told they couldn't. NJPW was also told the barricade couldn't be used to throw wrestlers in, no fighting outside the ring, no tables and no blading. For union reasons, the show was supposed to end by 11 p.m. but we're told even with rushing the show, NJPW decided to run overtime even with the added cost.


Emperor Smeat 09-30-2019 04:26 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nothing to see here except... TANAHASHI PLAYING AIR GUITAR WITH THE ROCK N ROLL EXPRESS!!!<br><br>That’s the show everyone! NJPW <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJPWFS?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJPWFS</a> Philly show ends on a high note. <br><br>���������� <br><br>- <a href="https://twitter.com/WIncRebel?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WIncRebel</a> <a href="https://t.co/aLQ3xJmy8E">pic.twitter.com/aLQ3xJmy8E</a></p>&mdash; WrestlingINC.com (@WrestlingInc) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingInc/status/1178450436719808512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">dispatches from the ecw arena: tjp was doing that “try to be noticed while staying incognito” walk through the lobby after the show when a disembodied voice with a heavy philly accent yelled “hey TJP!” he looked up, and the guy just yelled “you suck!”</p>&mdash; Chris (@funkyassdg) <a href="https://twitter.com/funkyassdg/status/1178479488633585665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat 10-05-2019 04:17 PM

According to Voices of Wrestling, Suzuki is rumored to be leaving NJPW soon. Hasn't been happy with his spot in the company and likely would have left earlier if it wasn't for the Liger feud. Current rumor is him going back to Pro Wrestling NOAH.

Also rumored to be leaving soon is NJPW's president Harold Meij.

Vastardikai 10-06-2019 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5289978)
According to Voices of Wrestling, Suzuki is rumored to be leaving NJPW soon. Hasn't been happy with his spot in the company and likely would have left earlier if it wasn't for the Liger feud. Current rumor is him going back to Pro Wrestling NOAH.

Also rumored to be leaving soon is NJPW's president Harold Meij.

I can't say I blame him. He's been an afterthought since Meij took over. Which is a travesty. Meij wants an American following, but doesn't push the most over guy with American audiences. Fucking idiot.

Mr. Nerfect 10-06-2019 11:18 AM

Suzuki leaving is sad. Can see WWE making him a huge offer.

Ultra Mantis 10-06-2019 02:42 PM

I can see why somebody like Suzuki would be dissatisfied being pushed down the card, but honestly unless you want to give him a sympathetic thank you run with the top belt (which doesnt really make sense for his character) there just isn't room for him at the top. You have so many other guys who are going to be around for a long time and are better investments. He at the very least isn't treated like the others from his generation, who pretty much only get to beat the rookies now and he still gets featured programs occasionally.

Being left off WK definitely pissed him off and not having him in a featured role at MSG in particular was a total mistake. If the G1 wasn't his own decision then that's understandable too. Cant see him ever leaving Japan completely though, he apparently hates travel and I doubt he wants to move to the US at this point in his life.

Mr. Nerfect 10-06-2019 04:23 PM

New Japan has got the problem of having too much talent. There’s a log jam at the top.

Ultra Mantis 10-06-2019 05:20 PM

Yeah, but we have the high ground Noid.

Emperor Smeat 10-06-2019 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5290013)
I can't say I blame him. He's been an afterthought since Meij took over. Which is a travesty. Meij wants an American following, but doesn't push the most over guy with American audiences. Fucking idiot.

Would blame the rest of NJPW's management and not Meji for that since they are the ones handling the US expansion stuff and Meji mostly handles the UK and elsewhere. Meij's biggest problem was setting way too high goals for the company and likely going to lose his job since they won't reach it.

In terms of status, he's in the right spot but problem is it involves the NEVER division and UK stuff which NJPW treats as an afterthought (NEVER) or given lesser status (UK) in favor of the US expansion.

Jordan 10-06-2019 10:40 PM

Well I am for Suzuki doing some AEW shows if he leaves NJPW. I don't watch NOAH so I hope that's what happens.

Emperor Smeat 10-06-2019 10:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Regarding the Suzuki / Meij rumours, we asked around and our sources have heard nothing on either. Said that Suzuki was possible but Meij didn’t sound right. I’m not saying I don’t think it’ll happen, but a lot of people have asked us so there you go.</p>&mdash; Super J-Cast (@thesuperjcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/thesuperjcast/status/1180708714983985152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably will know very shortly after Wrestle Kingdom 14 if those rumors had any truth to them since it was originally hinted that is when Meij was expected to leave.

Evil Vito 10-06-2019 10:51 PM

If Suzuki is going, I think they’ll try to keep him around til the Dome to put over ZSJ so that they can turn Suzuki-gun into Sabre-gun.

Tom Guycott 10-07-2019 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5290046)
Suzuki leaving is sad. Can see WWE making him a huge offer.

I don't. Not a viable one, anyhow.

I mean, they can throw money at the guy for sure, but when you factor age and the idea of him being not happy with being misused... him going to WWE spells more of a disaster than Steiner Math.

Someone like Shinsuke apparently doesn't give a shit since he's content with getting money and fucking off to go surf. Minoru Suzuki's ceiling would sadly be NXT. He would become a bigger "afterthought" than he is now on the main roster, and there aren't many guys like a Regal or Taylor or Finlay around to put up with the requisite stiffing a match with him would entail.

I'm not saying AEW should make an offer, but as it stands, it would be better for everyone: him, the company, and wrestling fans. I'd selfishly like to see him come in and add to what Corgan is doing with NWA and beat up a couple guys during the next set of Power tapings. Would make a lot of noise for that product.

Evil Vito 10-09-2019 11:13 AM

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Evil Vito 10-09-2019 11:14 AM

Dragon Lee was meant to be teaming with Titan but he got pulled in wake of his CMLL firing. NJPW doesn’t want to book a guy on bad terms with their partner.

Ultra Mantis 10-09-2019 12:52 PM

I hope it's more that they had already booked a CMLL team and didnt want to go back on it rather than outright just dropping Dragon Lee. I heard rumours he has already worked out a deal somewhere so if that isn't New Japan that could also be a factor. No LIJ reps or interesting guests either. :'(

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2019 12:40 AM

LIJ not having any reps makes sense since Shingo moved up to heavyweight and no Himoru around to tag with BUSHI.

Wouldn't be surprised if NJPW kills off their partnership with CMLL by the end of the year or at least is watching very closely to see if CMLL actually splits any time soon. If it does split, they probably will side with Sofia Alonso's version and not the one being run by her uncle since it likely gets them Dragon Lee back.

ClockShot 10-10-2019 06:45 PM

With all the stuff New Japan got going on between upcoming departures, the stuff with CMLL, I sure hope they're at work with contingency plans.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2019 07:02 PM

NJPW announced Fantastica Mania is returning next year and very likely means Dragon Lee's time in the company is done due to CMLL.

Ultra Mantis 10-11-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5291821)
LIJ not having any reps makes sense since Shingo moved up to heavyweight and no Himoru around to tag with BUSHI.

Wouldn't be surprised if NJPW kills off their partnership with CMLL by the end of the year or at least is watching very closely to see if CMLL actually splits any time soon. If it does split, they probably will side with Sofia Alonso's version and not the one being run by her uncle since it likely gets them Dragon Lee back.

I've been waiting for Hiromu to come back since BOSJ and it still stings every time they announce something he wont be part of. Feels like Dragon Lee would be a perfect fit for LIJ if he came in full time. Oh well :(

slik 10-14-2019 03:54 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As Jon Moxley is unable to appear for a scheduled IWGP United States Championship defence tonight at King of Pro Wrestling, his title has been declared vacant. <br><br>Lance Archer and Juice Robinson will wrestle for the vacated title tonight.<br><br>Details: <a href="https://t.co/9eMFbQI2pw">https://t.co/9eMFbQI2pw</a> <a href="https://t.co/TH2MLQOfjE">pic.twitter.com/TH2MLQOfjE</a></p>&mdash; NJPW Global (@njpwglobal) <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1183630108965265408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 14, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ClockShot 10-14-2019 06:42 AM

Mother Nature is a mean bitch.

That being said, I don't think they'll bounce the title back to Juice again with Archer in the match. Would they?

Ultra Mantis 10-14-2019 08:03 PM

I thought Mox would actually retain, even though Juice keeps talking about the belt needing to be defended on US soil. It's just boring for Juice to keep winning it back the first chance he gets. Hopefully the new champion can put some shine back on and we still get the Mox / Juice no DQ match somewhere down the road. Mox / Archer would be pretty cool too and I never thought I would be saying that a year ago.

Emperor Smeat 10-15-2019 10:54 PM

Squared Circle Sirens recently hinted NJPW might be debuting a women's division in the near future.

Another rumor elsewhere hinted that NJPW might have bought out all-women's promotion Stardom.

Jordan 10-16-2019 12:28 PM

I am hoping that the new on NJPW is related to a womens promotion rather than a deal with WWE.

I think I am buying the story that WWE is going to more of less buy BJPW as NXT Japan.

Who do you guys think Liger will have his final match with?

Evil Vito 10-16-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5293782)
Who do you guys think Liger will have his final match with?

Hiromu Takahashi, unless we all collectively had a fever dream and he never actually existed.

Ultra Mantis 10-16-2019 01:34 PM

Liger is going to come out for his retirement match against Ospreay, wrestle for 25 mins, win the Jr Heavyweight title clean, then take his mask off and reveal he was actually Hiromu for his entire career.

Ultra Mantis 10-16-2019 01:44 PM

Best case scenario on this "big news" is that Bushi Road has bought STARDOM, they partner with New Japan and do a joint tour every year (get rid of CMLLs).

NXT Japan can fuck right off.

Mr. Nerfect 10-16-2019 05:48 PM

The New Japan/WWE working agreement is looking less likely with WWE trying to buy-in. It’s a shame, because it would have been smarter to prop-up New Japan, but they’ve got to do things their way.

Emperor Smeat 10-16-2019 10:47 PM

NJPW bought Stardom according to a report from Yahoo Japan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWI
Yahoo Japan reported this evening that Bushiroad, the parent company of New Japan Pro Wrestling is acquiring STARDOM, the preeminent women's promotion in Japan.

Serious negotiations to take over STARDOM has been ongoing since early September. There had been interest on Bushiroad's end since this past Spring.

The official announcement will come tomorrow.


Emperor Smeat 10-17-2019 01:05 AM

More details regarding NJPW's parent company purchasing Stardom via the Observer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
World Wonder Ring Stardom, the Japanese women's pro wrestling company best known as Stardom, has been sold to Kix Road, a subsidiary of Bushiroad, in a deal announced Thursday afternoon in Japan.

The story is likely to be misinterpreted as either New Japan buying Stardom, a merger between the two groups, or that New Japan will start using women wrestlers on their shows. None of this would be accurate.

But what is accurate is New Japan and Stardom would both be owned by the same parent company, but they are being run and kept completely separate. Stardom will be under the umbrella of Kix Road, which is the parent company of Knock Out, the Bushiroad kickboxing company.

As part of the deal, Kix Road, on 12/1, Kix Road Co,. Ltd will have its name changed to Bushiroad Fight Co, Ltd. There are no plans for any interaction between Knock out and Stardom.

Hiroshi "Rossy" Ogawa will remain CEO of the women's wrestling promotion, which will main using the name Stardom, but World Wonder Ring Stardom will no longer exist as a company.

There will be people at Bushiroad joining Stardom to work in the front office but the Stardom staff will stay in place.

Bushiroad's role will be attempting through advertising and television to build the popularity of the brand, similar to how the resurgence of New Japan Pro Wrestling was built.

As part of the deal, a TV show will air on BS NTV and Tokyo MX starting in January, with the BS NTV show being a 30 minute show on Thursdays.

The streaming service Stardom World will remain the exclusive for Stardom events. New Japan World will not be streaming Stardom, and with New Japan World part-owned by TV-Asahi and the Stardom TV deal with rival NTV, politically that would be almost impossible to work out.

There are no plans at present for Stardom talent to appear on New Japan shows, or vice versa. However, if New Japan does see a demand for women's matches on foreign shows, where there is no sign of any at this point, this will give them easier access to broker a deal for such talent.


slik 10-17-2019 01:28 AM

Very cool!

slik 10-21-2019 02:12 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: NJPW officially announces US subsidiary, named New Japan Pro-Wrestling of America. <br><br>More details to follow on <a href="https://t.co/GsbwNuSDkw">https://t.co/GsbwNuSDkw</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJoA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJoA</a> <a href="https://t.co/b49dNqPEiS">pic.twitter.com/b49dNqPEiS</a></p>&mdash; NJPW Global (@njpwglobal) <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1186160727838490624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 10-21-2019 02:45 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Events will be run in West Coast, Texas, South East and Mid areas, with tours running through cities in those four key areas. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJoA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJoA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpw</a></p>&mdash; NJPW Global (@njpwglobal) <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1186162848226930688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems odd they are skipping the East Coast considering how successful their last tour of the region was. They did have a big dud with a show in Charlotte earlier in the year as part of the New Beginning tour but that was due more to visa related issues.

Mr. Nerfect 10-21-2019 04:21 AM

Cool to see New Japan expanding.

Evil Vito 10-21-2019 06:35 AM

And that should be the final death blow for ROH.

ClockShot 10-21-2019 06:46 AM

Sweet.

But, yeah. They gotta hit the Northeast. Huge wrestling hotbed they can tap into regularly.

Evil Vito 10-21-2019 06:57 AM

If it’s basically just American talent with the occasional Japanese name thrown in I’m probably going to struggle to stay interested.

But I don’t think the LA Dojo guys are ready, so they’re probably going to need to use the main roster pretty regularly for at least the first year or two until they have a crop of homegrown stars.

Jordan 10-21-2019 12:38 PM

Maybe I'm just being hopeful but I think that they will feature main roster guys because the US tours will be between Japanese tours. Maybe Tana will get to have his time off and someone else will get to play that big star role on the US tours... just as example.

Interested to see what this does for the light relationship with AEW.


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