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Just watched the Zangief video and I knew they were going to knock him down. So, now, in this game full off characters that zip around like Sonic, Zangief crawls towards them. His original speed was fine. He wasn't fast but he moved just fast enough to actually be useable.

Then the video said "We made this move weaker...and this move...and this move has less priority." Because we all know how insanely easy it is to play and win as Zangief, right? He totally needed to be less good.

Improving the SPD strength is like wrecking someones car with a huge sledgehammer and saying "Hey, at least I changed your tires. That's an important part of the car!". Yeah, but now my car barely functions. What good are new tires if my car can hardly move?

Gief is a grappler. He should be slower. Besides, with distance on some of his normals and the quickness of Banishing Fist, he can still get in alright.

I know he should be slow but his speed was spot on before the 2013 update. Banishing fist may be quick but pretty much every move cancels it.

I can handle moves being weaker, really. It just gives me more time to throw people around. It's the the slowing down I don't like. It can already be tricky catching people but now they feel the need to make it even trickier.

Either slow him down and make the pay off better when I do catch someone by making me do more damage or keep his speed the same as pre-update and have me do less damage. Either of those, I'd be fine with.

Gief was made slow because his burning hand and certain normals were very fucking good. Either they nerf burning hand and his normals or they adjust his walk speed and touch one normal. Looks like a good deal.

And you set up his gems a certain way, you can buff his walk speed anyway, and make his SPD even more powerful.

Cammy got the nerf stick and I'm already thinking of ways around it.

Some throwback news, but I may pick up Chun Li again.

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This is gonna be a hardcore game. Lot's more toe-to-toe than before, and jumping is a death sentence.

I wanna see Jin's changes now.

Really like Elena's changes. She'll be back in my deck.

Watching the SoCal tourney stuff sold me on 2013.

Didn't see any of that but I'm good to go anyway.

Jin is now more dangerous than my Ken, though Ken is making strides. I hope Asuka can make a similar upgrade so I can rock my Tekken Tag 2 team properly. Kazama Kombos for all!

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Guy and Law buffs <3

Update's out. New colors as well. Time to train.

I'm at a relatives for a few days with just my Wii U for entertainment. No SFxT. Am I missing anything?

I have been playing SFII Turbo on a 50 inch HD tv, though. So that's fun.

I'm at a relatives for a few days with just my Wii U for entertainment. No SFxT. Am I missing anything?

I have been playing SFII Turbo on a 50 inch HD tv, though. So that's fun.

Just the new update.

- Fucking love this update.
- Christie is much better with an anti-air and fireball dodges.
- Got to C+, and now have more BP than all of you. It's been a long hard road full of salt and rage.
- I can't wait to use Pandora now.
- Was in a lobby that streamed on TwitchTV. It was fun.
- Let's rock guys!

Would be playing now if XBL hadn't gone down like a $3 hooker.

Yeah I got a few DCs that took points away from me. Also spoiled my Halo 4 time. Fuck.

KILL KHUNTRY

"hey fignuts, this is your brain. I noticed that Kalyn has jumped at you about 8 gazillion times. You're playing as Ryu, so why don't you shoryuken him out of the air?"

"ha! Shows what you know. Best way to combat jumpers is to stand there and block and let them throw mix ups all day.

My brain similarly shuts off against jumps with Ken of all people.

I thought my Cammy would be a train wreck without her jump cancel shenanigans but she seems to be trucking along.

Our team match with Vega/Jin was hilarious in that you were pulling the heavy load while I literally came in just to punch punch punch super and leave.

Ugh Vegas cross art can't hit for shit.

I need to use juri more.

Also, king is a very bad match for Dudley. And ogre. And any character played by anyone with skill.

Yet hitting that shining wizard makes it all worth it.

Man, when I read the patch notes, I didn't really register how hard they nerfed meter gain. Like being a starving kid in Somalia compared to before.

Epic losing streak.

Got the character pack since it was finally on sale for a little bit. Unfortunately, since I'm commuting for work, I'm in town with my 360 for only a few days a week, so I won't beable to play much right now. But I'd like to get in with you guys.

Too bad Bison continues to underwhelm me in this game. His stomp seems slow and terrible.

Bison has nice pokes with his kicks. His stomp is better used to set up the flying punch thing. I seen you online but didn't wanna bother you since you were setting things up.

The tracking on it is terrible, and it's slow to get to the target. I definitely notice a difference between him in this and him in SSFIV (haven't played 2012). I am quite surprised they nerfed him more than they buffed him, according to the change video. His pokes will always be good, but I'm not sure charge characters have any advantage in this game.

Vega, Blanka, and Guile have all managed to piss me the fuck off. Charge characters are very well off.

I dunno, SRK forum for him seems more high than low on him. I'll just have to play him way differently than I have before if I want to keep using him.

And any Lei skill that I had from Tekken is lost on this version. I didn't spend a ton of time with him or anything, but that's not a good starting point for me in this game. I've basically forgotten anything I learned from the small amount of time I played it when it came out, so I just need to start fresh.

Lei can be daunting but he's fun. I'm gonna work him up after I level up my new main team, Jin/Christie.

Yeah what charge characters do fucking well in this game.

Need to get out of my bad rolling habit now that they're punishable.

Wake-up game is hardcore now.

I use vega and blanks. I haven't even really explored any combos with them yet, and I still win more than I lose. If I take them into training they could get really lethal.

I think Blanka and Vega are definitely the best of the chargers. Blanka's mix-up game is so damn good.

Even shitty Blankas rip me apart. Good ones, forget it.

I'm no good against charge character in general but Blanka seems to be the worst.

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Asuka leveled up.

Was gonna say did asuka have that anti air before the patch, cause your asuka was kinda free for jump ins before the patch, and now she's a lot deadlier.

Still making dumb mistakes but far less tonight than previous sessions, as evidenced by a few victories over khuntry. Though he made a few head scratchers as well.

The best though was Kalyx using pandora for no apparent reason several times lol.

Still don't know who my mains are, though its obviously between Ryu, heihachi, Julia, and juri. Wish Julia would have gotten a solid anti air with the patch, considering they nerfed her quite a bit.

I might be done with king. He just doesn't have tools to compete with a lot of characters.

I think the three of us are really getting on an even level here, and our matches are really intense

Feel like my iq drops when I'm two rounds up, because I pretty much just give my opponent the next two rounds on a silver platter before coming to my senses for the final round

STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR SHITTY 10TH RATE FIGHTER. WE HAVE REAL NEWS TO DISCUSS.

Also, I will try this ONCE MORE if the PC version gets the 2013 patch ever.

You're just jealous of our rad skills. Shut uppa you face.

Asuke got two AA options from the patch. It is an immense help. I wonder if her air grab thing is jump attack invincible, at least on the EX version. I'll experiment that.

I used Pandora the first time because I thought it was a sure thing. The kick didn't connect! The second time HP connect but the super whiffed hard. I'm trying to whip out Pandora for overkill finishes.

Didn't try Jin's crouch dash cancels. At all. I need to get that back in my system.

Asuka, Ken, and Jin all have counter-hit crumble stun dealers, I need to throw that in there. I did that a lot when the game launched but just stopped. My mind is silly like that.

Iwas hitting wall bounce>pandora>Julia's super in training, though I never broke it out in a fight.

Now though, Julia's super has been given more frames on start up so I dunno if it will even work.

Off a wall bounce you should confirm from a low hit, catch them at the last second. I rather do it from ground bounces, though.

Had an awesome tonight with Khuntry offline and on a TV at a friend's house that didn't have input lag. The one I'm usually on plays like SF4/MvC3's online, but offline. It's something you don't notice until you play on a TV that doesn't have bullshit 3D bells and whistles that make it shit for fighters and Rock Band.

And the difference is night and day, and my series with Khuntry wasn't as one sided. Asuka and Lei in particular were marvelous tonight, hitting set-ups and pokes I always felt should work but never quite landed - until I played on a TV with 1:1 control. Since my roomy got the 3D TV, fighting game control was a chore and Rock Band was pretty much never the same. FPS games, with their inherent lag-hiding gameplay, fares well.

Now this isn't some long winded excuse on my performance online, which is 'fine' overall, but I wish to death I didn't have to deal with this TV. It's enough dealing with connection spikes online without the TV's input lag.

That said, you may see less of me online with this game in order to keep my muscle memory on point. Gonna try and get some online games on the other TV, especially matches with Fignuts.

Capcom are holding a poll to find your top 5 SF characters for future products. So...everyone will be picking Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Shin Akuma and Evil Ryu, then?

I went with (order doesn't matter):
Zangief
Sodom
Hakan
Poison
Hugo

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Lei is now more dangerous than Nina in my stable. Pretty crazy shift. Lars is also getting better.

I've not played this in weeks. I'd like to sit down for a lobby but I've not got gold right now :(.

I was talking to someone that doesn't play fighting games the other day about fighting games and it seems she didn't know that they had simplified them with the easy gems or MvC3s easy options for moves. Seems a bit weird that the people that stuff is there for probably don't know it exists.

That's a good observation, with more than a few explanations.

Long story short; fuck the FGC.

We're going to give SFxT a spin at somepoint so we'll see how useful the assist gems really are.

I want to ask about the FGC but I get the feeling I will know the story already.

Just remember Assist Gems are training wheels that are meant to be removed after a while.

Yeah, I know. The person that'll use them is not at all used to fighting games, is very competitive and doesn't really like to lose. It might get messy.

They love Ocarina of Time, though, so it's fine.

People who hate losing, in my opinion, shouldn't play fighting games. They may not stay long enough to learn.

True but it's just messing around. Nothing competitive. You could look at it as a way of learning to be ok with losing.

That's why I chose SFxT as well. So we can fight as a team and, that way, if I win the match, it's team work, if she wins the match she's getting better and if we lose we can laugh it off.

Thinking ahead.

If I were home I'd be practicing. Watched streams of endless battle for at least 10 hours over the weekend in the background. Such a fun game to watch now.

No idea how to deal with pressure.

Such a failure. Gonna walk in front of bus.

Alpha Counter. EX escapes. I dunno.

THIS close to picking Chun Li to work on her.

That uses a block of meter, so can't do it everytime. No idea when to counter attack anything.

All I've got going for me is heihachi, but honestly, he's just a bit less cheesier than rolento, so I can't even be proud of those wins.

So mad at myself right now. Can't do anything right.

Well at least your TV doesn't delay your inputs by a hundred years. I have to commit to actions much earlier than God should allow.

New TV installed. No more input lag. 100% me. Let's go.

I've no gold but I got an email from Xbox saying this weekend is a free weekend so I'm all for SFxT.

Contemplated "fightin' talk", decided not to.

I see.

Intending to pull Poison up to Zangief level.

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I need to know how dedicated a cosplay that is, so that I know how to feel about that pic.

Safe to say it's mostly chicks to enjoy away.

I know Fignuts is likely kidding with his post but I've seen a lot of people say that stuff when they see a photo or video of someone they aren't 100% sure the gender of. Bugs me a little. They've basically just admitted to finding the pic or video hot. What it basically says is "This person is sexy to me. Can I express that openly or should I force myself to be grossed out and publicly express that instead?"

Tried SFxT for the first time since the update. Want to weep at how wothless Zangief now is. His walk speed is like playing in slow motion. That, combined with the way all the SPD strengths (L,M, H & EX) send Zangief varying distances away from the victim afterwards, means the SPD is something I could only really pull out once in a while against anyone half decent.
I did the lightest SPD so I was sent the least distance from the victim. Ryu was up and running away before I got anywhere near him after the first SPD. So, now, matches will boil down to chasing the opponent, slamming them, chasing them some more, slamming them, chasing them yet again etc. Before, it was a case of chasing them, grabbing then and never letting go.

I agree Zangief should be slow but with the fast pace of SFxT as a whole, his original speed was perfect. He was in no way super fast but he was fast enough to be able to eventually catch someone and keep pressure on them.

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"So, now, matches will boil down to chasing the opponent, slamming them, chasing them some more, slamming them, chasing them yet again etc. Before, it was a case of chasing them, grabbing then and never letting go."

As a grappler should play like.

Tons of Gief at the tounament level. He definitely got nerfed, but he's still really good. EX Green Hand ground bounce is hilarious.

Dunno drakul, if it was that easy for you to get in and hit another spd, then it's good that it was needed. That move does a ton of damage so it should be hard to hit.

I can understand that I shouldn't be able to slam someone endlessly but I can't even really do anything at all after the SPD.
If I try the banishing fist right after, they still have a very good chance of getting away.
With the game being pretty zippy, Zangief now moving like an arthritic turtle and with people able to juggle me to the point of losing almost 40% of my health in a single Tekken combo, it seems pretty hopeless for me. I'm not being bitchy, I'm just looking at it and thinking it seems unwinnable against anyone with half a clue how to play against Zangief. :(

I couldn't do SPD endlessly before the update but at least I could stay close enough to actually attack them in some way.

What you're complaining about is the 'neutral game', after certain events characters are in a position where no one has an obvious advantage and the metagame restarts. Asuka similarly has to re-approach after a combo. This can be amended by being creative and knowing who you're fighting.

Rather than complain about it endlessly, I'll just say I don't like the speed change. I can take moves being weakened and hit boxes being adjusted but the speed change seemed to just be a step too far for me.

I wonder what makes them change that stuff. I know it's probably because "pro" players give feedback or the QA team give feedback but my paranoid, cynical side thinks it's because there are hoardes of Ryu/Kazuya players on a Capcom forum bitching endlessly about something and eventually get their way. No one very complains about the popular guys, it's always the big strong guys, I've noticed.

Using this as motivation to really get to grips with Poison and, maybe, get her somewhere near SSFIV Zangief level one day. Tempted to have Zangief or Hugo as back up for her but also thinking I should be adventurous and try someone else out.

Changes are made with overall balance in mind, not so much every single complaint from certain players. A widespread complaint was how effective grapplers (namely Gief and Hugo) were at the range game, which was absurd. Hugo already received a nerf way before the patch, but Gief still had unusual range priority on par with, say Cody - which is crazy. A lot of this was explained in the change videos pages back.

Ryu, Kazuya, and other 'top' characters got major nerfs possibly worse than Gief. Raven was hit hard, for instance.

Sorry about my roommate's 'commentary'. Won't happen again.

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He's no JR.

I'd hate to have a room mate. Someone else sitting around my house...talking all the time. Drinking all the milk.

I don't mind in general, but there's always something to do without - like bad commentary.

I've not had "live" commentary since I was a kid and my friends and I played No Mercy and my little brother impersonated JR. He did a surprisingly good job of it, too.

I live in my own house (not a flat/apartment) and my brother stays with me. It's fine but I want my own space so I'm wanting to switch the house for a flat/apartment to myself. Or maybe a tiny bungalow.

I want to just focus on myself for a while. We've lived togethor since birth, obviously. We're even starting to resemble the classic "brothers" look of being total opposites physically and in personality. That's a danger sign, right there.

I should probably have started that post with "Dear diary..."

My older bro turned down living with me a year ago. He didn't agree with returning in Miami and it's one of the reasons I stay with a roomy now. He taught me how to play Street Fighter II. Manged to beat me in Street Fighter 4 last year somehow.

Keep your brother.

25 years is a long time. It's complicated and I'd rather not go into things on a public website.

I beat my brother at SF 90%+ of the time but he very rarely plays it, so that's probably why. I focus on power, he focuses on speed.

Teach him.

He has no time and wouldn't admit to wanting help with it anyway.

Fair enough.

It is going down. Kalyx vs Fignuts.

Some nice matches tonight. Gonna try and get some off-screen footage up.

Ugh ass kickings is more like it. Was being mad predictable.

You said you were a bit rusty, right? And I'm pretty sharp since I've been tearing it up offline lately. Decent matches.