They traded crap for crap with each team hoping the crap they traded for tastes better than the crap they traded away.

Pretty sure ClockShot would roll out of bed in the middle of the night to post a trade update here if one popped up on his phone.

Doubt it. My phone sucks.

As proven by Jason Grilli and Fernando Rodney, bullpen guys are weird. A change in atmosphere can do wonders (or the opposite) for their performance.

Jays are hoping their track record of getting guys who were kind of meh in Seattle but good for them proceeds.

Relievers in general are historically volatile in year to year performance and incredibly difficult to project. It's why I think trading or signing them are unneeded risks. Yes, there's always a Chapman or Kimbrel. But those guys are rare for a reason.

Well you need to get those bridge guys somehow.

I feel like I can't be too hard on Familia given that he was 36 for 36 in save chances and hadn't blown a regular season save in almost a calendar year. But fuck me was this ever a bad time. Against a Cardinals team they're fighting for the Wild Card and right after Cespedes bailed out the team with a late HR. And to allow Yadier Molina to fucking kill them again just like he has ever since 2006.

Speaking of Cespedes...I'm back on the same bandwagon I was last August. Just give the man whatever he wants. I may be done with this franchise altogether if they let him walk. He's literally the entire offense and I'm at the point where I don't even care if he sucks at the end of his deal. The dude can fucking mash and for the next few years while all the pitchers are still here it's worth it.

Aaaaaand Familia blows his second save in 24 hours after not blowing one in almost a year. And the Mets score only 1 run to waste another brilliant effort from deGrom.

I'm done for the year. Fuck this shit. Would 100% support them getting booed out of the stadium.

Come on Sox. Need a BIG one from Price tonight.

Price will give up 5 runs in like 3 innings

Can you explain why you hate David Price so much? You fucking weirdo.

Anyways, Damo, somewhat tongue and cheek here because I'm sure logistically there is nothing that could make this happen... but after this past 3 game series, the Jays should go out of their way to figure out how to acquire Dickerson... seems like he enjoys hitting at the Rogers Centre, and 81 games a year there would probably do him good. His minor league stats are also fucking ridiculous. You guys may have yourselves a diamond in the rough. Though he could fizzle like anyone else, but damn he looked dangerous.

David Price has been on 3 AL East Teams so he's pitched a lot 's the Orioles but he's over rated now and it suits the Red Sox just fine to overpay for him.

Really hoping the Cubbies cut Chris Sale up tonight...

Lol he's overrated yet he's easily better than all of 2 pitchers on the Orioles. Yeah.

As for my Dastardly friend. I actually think Dickerson could be moved. In the off-season. The Padres have a corner outfielder with similar tools but a higher upside so I don't think it's outta the realm of possibility.

I like what he's show do far.

Are the Orioles overpaying Chris Davis and his mediocre offense? What about Adam Jones and his below average offense AND defense? Those underperformers overrated? Because right now their overall contribution to hitting/run production isn't much if at all better to David Price's pitching/run prevention. Which is average at best.

Neither of them are being paid $30 million to play 35 games

Not what I was asking. Are they overpaid based on their production this year, yes or no?

Jones is hitting .268 with 19 HR and 59 RBI for $14 mil
I have no problem with that since its very close to his career averages (.277 27 and 87)

Chris Davis is .223 with 22 HR. He's in the midst of a 1 forv28 drought which was wrapped around him missing 3 days and being in the hospital with the stomach virus. When he shakes the drought he's a streaky enough hitter he could still hit 35+ hrs. Overlooked though is his defensive play he's one of the top 1B in the AL. 17 million sounds like a lot..then you realize Mark Teixeira is making. $19 million and hitting .190 with 9 homers. Prince Fielder is out for the year making $23 million with even worse stats..

Are you unable t answer the question? They're both at best average offensive players. Are average offensive players worth $16 and $23 million a year? Or do you think that's an overpay for AVERAGE OFFENSIVE PLAYERS, one of which is a below average defender.

I don't know if you know this Droford, but outs are bad and the rate at which you so something is far more important than than the sum at which you do it.

I should have taken the bet lol

Or how about Gallardo? Boy that salary and draft pick loss sure look like a great investment for that sparkling 5.37 ERA.

Boy, that Matt Wieters sure looks like a great investment. Good thing they handed him a free $16 million for his 75 games of mediocrity last year.

Ubaldo Jimenez has sure been a worthwhile investment for Baltimore. That 7.38 ERA sure is helping his team keep Toronto and Boston at bay.

Man good thing Baltimore outbid themselves to land Chris Davis. Gotta think they're happy with a first baseman who's total offense mirrors that of the great Hanley Ramirez and Albert Pujols.

Season isn't over yet, you tit. Toronto and Boston are both breathing down Baltimore's neck. Though with your incessant homer comments you'd think Baltimore already clinched.

The disadvantage Baltimore has is it doesn't have neither the money or minor leaguers to nab them a big piece. Something those other two teams have plenty of in one department or the other.

And I take it you're just gonna pretend that your team isn't overpaying Jones or Davis for their mediocre contributions.

Trumbo hitting 30 homers and playing OK defense in RF but yeah he's barely average. He's going to pull a Cruz on the Orioles but hes the 2016 version of 2014 Nelson Cruz.

The Orioles are 7 games better than they were last year through 100 games. Currently have best record in the American League and 4th best behind the 3 nl leaders.

I guess it is a catastrophe. Theres absolutely no way they finish last.

He's average based on what? He's a terrible defensive outfielder. They've limited him to only playing about half his games out there. Had he been out there 100 times he'd be far worse than his numbers indicate.

And it still doesn't answer the question of Davis and Jones being overpaid to be awfully average.

Toronto and Boston are 2 back. You think the Orioles are that much better than them? Are you incapable of crediting other teams? Do you understand objective analyses?

Orioles were only 2.5 ahead of Toronto on 7/28/14

They were also 58-46 vs 58-42 now

Based on that objective analysis, the jays were maybe 2 games over .500 last year b4 they a bombed the division. Doesn't mean fuck all. For all you know, Yanks could make a huge run.

Orioles are going to at least win 2 of 3 in Toronto this weekend. Probably Friday and Sunday

It's a possibility. Jays aren't hitting that great. Baltimore also just dropped a series to the woeful Rockies and are currently losing to the even more woeful twins.

Red Sox bullpen has been horrible these past few games. Price actually pitched really well tonight and got nothing to show for it.

Honestly droford i bet the yankees finish with a better record than the oriole

I'll aviatar bet your ass

I'll still bet you.

Another Marlins and Padres trade:

Padres get:
1B Josh Naylor
RHP Luis Castillo
RHP Carter Capps
RHP Jarred Cosart

Marlins get:
RHP Andrew Cashner
RHP Colin Rea
RHP Tayron Guerrero

I don't think the Orioles are going to make any trades

Love the Padres deal. Have to say I'm very happy with the direction of the team and the front office's aggression in moving out players.

Not sure why Baltimore wouldn't try to facilitate any moves. They're in dire need of pitching and adding an extra league average or better outfielder would do them well. It's great that their pen is lights out but you can't lean on that all year. They need innings from at least one more guy.

I'm shocked that Gallardo isn't working out for them. I know he's not super all star or anything, but he's always been a solid hand from what I can see. He'll still give the blue jays fucking fits though. They can't hit his soft stuff.

Fairness to Ziegler... as a closer generally shouldn't be giving up 2 runs... but a 1-0 lead in the ninth means the offence didn't do the job. Honestly feel like if your SP puts up a 0 through 8 innings, it shouldn't come down to your closer.