Watching Starrcade 98 and realized...

Billy Kidman = Heath Slater

Discuss.

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@CMPunk how bout a beer to wash all that down?

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“@steveaustinBSR: @CMPunk how bout a beer to wash all that down?” What?

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@CMPunk it is waaaaay too early for this....have a good one....Punk.

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“@steveaustinBSR: @CMPunk it is waaaaay too early for this....have a good one....Punk.” Have a stunning day....Steven.

Zeeboe was just retweeted by piper.

he's watching you

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This twitter "feud" is better than most of the stuff RAW does.

wonder if Piper is regretting opening the Zeeboe door yet

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@IrishGypsySoul @R_Roddy_Piper - Roddy Piper theme music for your doorbell. Now THAT is a real Father's Day gift & every boy's nightmare!

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@R_Roddy_Piper - Why not also hand them a piece of paper that reads: The following is a short list of things I cannot do: .

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@R_Roddy_Piper - LOL. "You don't throw rocks at a man with a coconut!"

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@R_Roddy_Piper - If I'm a boy taking your daughter out on a date, & you're lecturing me while holding a coconut, I'd probably start crying!

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@R_Roddy_Piper - LOL. When you read those boys their rights for dating your daughters, I think you should have a coconut in your hands.

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@R_Roddy_Piper - I pity the fool who has to ask Mr. Piper's permission to take his daughter out on a date! I would not wanna be that guy!

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@R_Roddy_Piper - lol. Wouldn't it be funny if when the boy rings your doorbell, he hears your theme music. That'd be scary for him I bet!

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@R_Roddy_Piper - Because they have a perfect Dad! Just think about how great it will be when you do see them again. It will be a good moment

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AMAZING!

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lol amazing :'(

Jimmy Uso (Jey's A'ight) :rofl:

Fun fact I learned recently: Did you know Chyna was at one point considered to face Stone Cold for the WWE Title @ Summerslam 1999?

Not surprising, really. I mean, she WAS in the main event that year anyway.

Wait, no she wasn't, Triple H was.

Didn't they do Foley vs. Austin vs. Chyna at one point?

lol @ the end credits "Jimmy Uso (Jey's A'ight)"

:rofl:

Well I'm off to work again, what to play in my car, I was thinking either Miz's theme, Sheamus, or Zack Ryder (wwwyki).

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*RANDOM THOUGHT ALERT*

This past Monday on RAW and now announced for this Friday's SD! was/will be a six man tag-team match; Bryan, Jackson, & Sin Cara vs. Barrett, Rhodes, & Dibiase.

IMO, this match is made up of six people that the WWE or the IWC wants to get over badly, but can't. I know a lot of you love some of those guys, the bottom line is that none of them have drawn in the 'E' and IMO won't draw (this point could be debated). I would not be surprised if in a year or two from now five or maybe all six will no longer perform for the WWE.

I bring this up because I feel bad when I see guys getting continual TV time and prolonged pushes despite complete crowd apathy (Drew Mac anyone), I feel that in time these six will fall in that category, if they aren't there already.

*RANDOM THOUGHT ALERT*

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Made it myself, proud as fuck.

Sin Cara just got there, Barrett is a fuckin stud and Rhodes is one of the best they've got. I think I completely disagree with your point and logic to support it, sir.

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Jimmy Neutron is sad that R-Truth doesn't like him.

She took part in a complicated series of matches to determine the #1 contender for the WWF title for SummerSlam '99, but I didn't know that she was ever seriously considered to win it.

Of all of them Cara gets the break, he is new / was a draw elsewhere.

Barrett is a stud? Rhodes is 'one of the best?' I feel like many people confuse internet support for financial success (Ryder anyone?).

That was pretty stupid booking on the WWF's part. They had hyped the shit out of Stone Cold Vs. Triple H on MTV and pretty much anywhere else. They pretty much brought back the Rock N' Wrestling Connection and then changed the main event like four times in the span of like a week.

I heard that ol' Stone Cold didn't really want to job to Triple H, but was convinced to job to Mankind instead for a transitional championship. There is no way in hell that Chyna was ever really going to be in the WWF Championship match. It was just to give her a little bit more exposure as she was already getting alot of attention by being on MTV with Triple H all the time on TRL.

First Little Jimmy LOL'ed then Little Jimmy Serious'ed.

You have a point, somewhat.

I think Sin Cara and Cody Rhodes are well on their way. Rhodes has gotten significant segement time on the mic since his disfigured gimmick kicked, and giving him the paper bag schtick to create a heat machine for the crowd was brilliant, IMO.

Sin Cara's already getting over. He's having decent matches, and gets has the machine very much behind him. Hard to believe he won't be a success in the very near future.

Zeke is getting a solid face push in the mid card, and Barrett's got the IC title and is in a fued with Zeke, which gives both ample tv time.

The only two that really aren't doing anything at all is Daniel Bryan and Ted DiBiase. Brian can get support when he's inserted into something people actually care about, and he may get that with a Cody Rhodes fued. DiBiase just needs a brand new direction. His character is in dire need of an overhaul.

Good stuff.

The more I think about it, the more I realize I may be wrong / off-point. I want to clarify that I do want them to succeed. I would not be shocked if one or two of them did become something special, but I would also not be shocked if that didn't happen.

I still think DiBiase has a chance. He's got a good look, he can work, and he's still relatively young. Being on SmackDown! is a good thing. He just needs some direction. I don't think pairing him with Rhodes is that direction.

I'd rather have him be the EXACT opposite of Rhodes. Cody is going to need something to clash against, personality wise. Turning DiBiase into a knowingly good looking, cocky, rich young man would be better than that Fortunate Son crap they canned while on Raw.

Daniel Bryan is an interesting case, especially because of his look. When he's in there with someone like Sheamus, he looks insanely out of place. Same thing with Zeke, and to a lesser extent, Barrett. But put him next to Cody, Ted, or Cara, he fits in perfectly.

WWE could really benefit from bringing back the lightweight title. Mainly because it'd give some people a legitimate title to fight over, and build feuds between people who otherwise wouldn't have anything going on. I mean, I could see Bryan, Cara, etc, wining the US Title, but what about people like Barretta, Kidd, Chavo, Tatsu, etc? They pretty much have a stacked lightweight/junior division, but they don't and can't acknowledge it.

Cara was in a different market to be considered a "draw", its unfair to subject him to the same standards as the other gentleman you named.

Barrett is the goods...he's shown that he can be thrust into the main heel position on the roster and be poised enough to carry it. They DID consider putting the belt on him, so...yeah I'd say he's a draw.

I think I understand what you're saying now, if they're not a main eventer, then they aint' shit right? By your logic, CM Punk doesn't really draw money right now either, right? What makes Punks position right now any different than Barrett from a year ago?

Ultimately, ALL of those guys will "be there in a year", I'm willing to bet on it.

Apparently EMLL in mexico trademarked the name Sin Cara there because WWE did not....this should be interesting.

Actually just because they are put in the main-event does not necessarily mean they are a draw...it might mean they are trying to get them over.

Barrett is interesting as his run with Cena was successful, but Cena is Cena, and I will wait on him until he does it on a consistent basis with different workers. Example: IMO, Orton / Barrett was a disappointment.

What seperates CM Punk and those six is that CM Punk is a proven commodity.

I guess we disagree, that's fine.

Sin cara will now be known as Sin Kara, which probably means nothing in spanish, but its got a K for a C so its kool.

I'm not done yet. Dying here of laughter. :'(

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I'm gonna play devils advocate here, even though a competitive Cruiser division on Smackdown would be money.

If WWE starts to label guys like Bryan, Rhodes, Sin Cara, Chavo, Tatsu, Kidd, etc... as Junior's then that's what they are. Just like in WCW the idea of Rey winning the World Title is laughable. But in WWE it became very plausible and no big deal. It would be hard for Cody Rhodes to go from Cruisweight Champ to World Champ for example, just in the eyes of the fans after they get used to him in the lighter division.

LOL awesome, my heros.

Such a GLORIOUS moustache :'(

or alternately Tommy is forced to quit his daytime job at the hotdog stand up after his boss finally realizes he eats more than he sells which is weird cause he sells a lot..just not hot dogs.

I'll agree with you on Cody, only because he MIGHT have a bigger future. But then you have guys like Bryan, Tatsu, Kidd, Baretta, Slater, Gabriel, Bourne, Hawkins (he may be too big, can't think off the top of my head). Most of those guys are never going to be world champion. The beauty of it is though, IF they do reach that level, it's not a hard build up.

Example 1. Just have someone clear out the division. If someone becomes so dominant, they could start facing bigger guys to prove themselves. AKA, someone who is too "big" (ego) for the divison.

Example 2. Royal Rumble winner.

Example 3. Royal Rumble Elimination. Have a cruiser eliminate a big name in the Rumble. HAve the big name challenge them, have the cruiser win. If the big name wins the title or something later, the feud is already built.

Example 4. Money in the bank.

There are ways to move a cruiser into the main event, if needed.

Furthermore, one of the reasons Mysterio as champ in WCW would have been a joke was because for the most part, he was treated crappy outside the division. He was lawn darted into things by Nash, etc. They were never meant to be taken seriously outside of the division. WWE could (but probably wouldn't) build the division as a group of superstars who are credible threats to people. This just have to emphasize that the class is based on weight.

I guess this is why you left me in a neck brace in the Wrestling Forum Championship :(

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Heels = Wear black

The Black Lantern Corps?

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Heels = Be black

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Heels = Be black

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Demolition Flame

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Tough Enough is rigged
 

– In a story about WWE Tough Enough winner Andy Leavine on WWE.com, they point out that he will be heading to FCW to “fine tune his skills.”


It's been reported that Andy was already in FCW, wrestling under a different name, before Tough Enough.

What a joke.

They really didn't bring in an outside guy at all.

It's all rigged. I mean, on one hand, I gotta give the WWE props for picking a possible future replacement down the road for Undertaker in his size, etc, and not another pretty boy.

But, everytime I read stuff like this, I just see it as it is.

Hey bro. Wrestling in general is rigged. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but I just see it as it is.

Wrestling rigged? BULLSHIT!

Oh man.

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that some of the guys had opted out of their FCW contracts (which aren't always WWE development deals I think) in order to compete in Tough Enough.

You, Adam, and Andy should go fuck each other in the ass with chainsaws.

on that note, we cue the it's still real to me damnit video

WHAT?

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I am surprised that anybody is surprised by this shocking revelation.

I hope they don't introduce Tyler Black to the WWE Universe in this shoddy fashion.

Well, he won and he's back to where he was where he started? Seems about right since he didn't deserve to win to begin with.

Everyone was so eager to jump on the sarcasm express and shit all over the poster, that it seems most of you missed the point AEF was trying to make.

Season 1 of Tough Enough was, for all intents and purposes, a "reality" show. They found flat out nobodies and turned them into superstars overnight... if you recall, Maven got a lot of shit and resentment for winning a job "overnight" most guys in the 'E at the time worked the better part of a decade or more to get.

Season 2 and foward sought to eliminate some of the preliminary "dead weight" (and some of the backstage resentment) by asking participants to actually HAVE a wrestling background, but still, it was moving towards a shot at working WWE, which none of them did.

What Mr. Fan was trying to say, though not so elegantly, was that now, it's pretty much a joke- an angle. Not only are the guys in the "competition" ALREADY more or less under contract with the company via FCW, but that it seemed that this guy was already given the keys to the kingdom before the first episode was even in the can. It's not so much the "GASP! IT'S SCRIPTED?!" reaction, it's the fact that Tough Enough, like NXT, the whole production is a total angle from start to finish designed to do the work that vignettes for debuting wrestlers used to. (Example, NXT 1 was merely a tool to set up all those guys for the Nexus angle... didn't truly matter that Barrett "won", they all got called up anyway.) A far cry from the original show.

They could essentially just eliminate all this "stupidity" and fabricated "contests" simply by televising FCW.

And the point you're missing is wrestling is scripted as fuck.

Seems that you are missing the point about TAEFan coming in periodically only for us to neg rep him and make us feel good about it.

So what you're saying is, you're not above ruining a thread to make yourself feel better. Is this the kind of KoTWF you want tpww? Let me take this to the Wrestling Forum Champion thread

What I am saying is that I love WWE and this forum and make sure a vindictive fan doesn't belittle it. I am fighting for you guys, and this is why I deserve to be KotWF.

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favorite post in this thread. A pure morning L.O.L. :rofl:



And yeah, I hate when "reality shows" aren't pure.

This. He gave up a spot that might not result into anything and gambled and won. Now his name is 10x that of any FCW star.

Here is the best part. THis isnt a reality show where fans votes count. Stone Cold (IE WWE) decides who stays and goes. So where is the "FIX". They brought in 14 people that arent in the WWE, never said a word about former FCW wrestlers, to earn a spot as Tough Enough CHamp. They were to decide the winner.

Fucking Wrestling Forum Muties.

The Rock and Roll Express were one of the most popular tag teams for Jim Crockett Promotions

this video shows that they were hugely popular as the entire building was screaming as they came to the ring as ELO's Rock and Roll Is King played

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Someone cue the "It's still real to me damnit" video.

Yeah where is the damn thing?

And if this brings back Hugh Morris for just one more run, It'll be worth it...

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Demolition Man

Pretty sure that Demolition doesn't know how to use the 3 seashells either.

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Demolition Sledge

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never seen this before

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Born in America, Fella

I hate you

Apparently the Big Show is the Intercontinental Champion in Spain

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Well. I see immaturity still exceeds the realm here in the forum.

It's great to see such hateful people here, with nothing else to do, but jackoff on other peoples suggestions/ideas.

Keep dreaming of me :-)

OHHHH SICK BURN

Who is this kicking swoggle?

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One of the guest hosts of Raw, I guess.

Looks like Jon Hederer?