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Gerard 08-18-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5572537)
Well, being fair, with the money they paid to use Hendrix, they milked the shit out of it every time.

Bischoff talks about that on a podcast, they were only allowed to use so many seconds (3 mins) of Voodoo child each show, which is why Hogan would come out to either Voodoo Child or Rockhouse. $100k back in the day to use it for a year.


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The funny thing about "Rockhouse" was it was a song made up of random sound samples in other hendrix songs, someone clashed them together, extended it and made a theme out of it.

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Gerard 08-18-2022 06:53 PM

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Bad News Gertner 08-19-2022 11:30 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy Friday, here is Mean Gene dancing with Sapphire <a href="https://t.co/awXdt81dqi">pic.twitter.com/awXdt81dqi</a></p>&mdash; OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1560602730636394496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lock Jaw 08-19-2022 11:39 AM

Gene's got the moves. That really move 'em

Sepholio 08-19-2022 02:07 PM

Looks like NXT UK is being gutted.

xrodmuc316 08-19-2022 08:18 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2022 12:31 AM

Would be funny if the reason Punk vs. Mox is on free TV next week is because Punk wants out ASAP.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2022 12:31 AM

WWE should re-hire John Morrison for Raw.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2022 12:48 AM

I did some WWE fantasy booking over the next few months. I never really shuffle the rosters around much. Instead of doing a proper draft this year, I kind of hope they just have a few guys/girls change show upon request.

To Raw:

1. Pete Dunne - Gets attacked at Clash at the Castle by Dexter Lumis. Dunne wants revenge but can’t get across the shows, but he ends up as 24/7 Champion giving him the right to be there. Theory helps Lumis beat Dunne in a Hardcore Match at Extreme Rules to win the belt and Dunne requests his move to go back after them.

2. Sami Zayn - He decides he wants to get away from The Bloodline. They see this betrayal and he gets attacked and has a babyface moment against Roman Reigns.

3. Happy Corbin - He’s had enough of being disrespected by Pat McAfee & Michael Cole on commentary. He puts over McAfee in a Street Fight main event before leaving.

4. Lacey Evans - I don’t know what they have her do. I’ve got her partnered with Bobby Lashley in my head, but I don’t want to drag Lashley down.

To SmackDown:

1. American Alpha - Feel they are “misused” on Raw. They are accused of trying to get away from the teams they are feuding with at the time (Dolph Ziggler & Bobby Roode and Shelton Benjamin & Cedric Alexander), only to find that they have also requested their transfer.

2. Dolph Ziggler & Robert Roode - See above. Also some fresh meat for Gunther to squash.

3. Shelton Benjamin & Cedric Alexander - See above. Further padding for the SmackDown tag side.

4. Angelo Dawkins - Requests his transfer to try and make it as a singles guy to the “shock” of Montez Ford.

5. Veer Meehan - Joins back with Jinder Mahal and Shanky for a little bit, or gets repackaged as a babyface.

You could also call up a bunch of NXT talents to balance out the shows.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2022 04:42 AM

Noid books Clash at the Castle:

SPOILER: show
* Kofi Kingston & Shinsuke Nakamura defeat The Viking Raiders. “Kinshasa in Paradise” forms because Kofi needs a partner to go against The Raiders. Malamutes steps forward because he knows what it is like to go to war when his partner is injured. They get a special entrance together here. The faces win because The Raiders are kind of in that meh spot.

* Pete Dunne wins a Battle Royal when he finds a way to muscle out Omos, ala Benoit and Big Show in the 2004 Rumble. Lots of stories can be furthered in this. An Uso can dump out Zayn, Ford can dump out Dawkins, etc. Dunne cuts a promo talking about how he cut his teeth in the UK as Pete Dunne so he’s dedicating this match to his Bruiserweight roots on the pre-show or something.

* Liv Morgan defeats Shayna Baszler with a roll-up after Shayna goes into a turnbuckle Natalya, who is in her corner, exposes. I guess Nattie has the team with Sonya now. I’d just have Nattie play the field a bit and offer her assistance to Shayna to get to this finish. She’s not necessary to the finish, but whatever. It’s another story. Liv is going down the route of Bo Dallas, so keep her winning and building that heat.

* Bobby Lashley & AJ Styles defeat The Miz & Ciampa. Styles points out he won the WWE Title in the UK so it’s special to him. He gets the pin on Miz here. He can look at Lashley’s belt afterwards.

* Tyler Bate defeats Kevin Owens to retain the NXT UK Championship. Owens is announced as Bate’s opponent because he wants to rip the UK Title from that shitty little developmental. As a French Canadian he has no respect for the Commonwealth. He’s an absolute asshole, carries himself like a prick, overlooks Bate and loses here. The NXT UK Title becomes the WWE UK Title and is moved to Raw, possibly as a crossover belt with NXT.

* Gunther defeats Sheamus to retain the IC Title. Just let these men go.

* Edge & Rey Mysterio defeat The Judgment Day. Dominik Mysterio makes his decision and clocks Finn Balor with a steel chair to help his dad get the win. I’m not ready for the Rey vs. Dominik feud yet.

* Matt Riddle defeats Seth Rollins to get a measure of revenge for their issues. This match goes quite a while and is another “workrate” contribution from the Raw side.

* D-Femination XX defeat Bianca Belair, Asuka & Alexa Bliss. This gets time to give you the combos you want — specifically Asuka and Iyo. I’d give the pin to Sky, who pins Bianca.

* Drew McIntyre defeats Roman Reigns to become the new WWE Undisputed Unified Universal Heavyweight Champion of the World. Drew is attacked earlier in the show, presumably by Karrion Kross. He uses that to sell for Reigns (probably the leg, with the Claymore being targeted). Drew hits it, takes ages going into the pin, only gets two when Kross pulls out the ref and socks them. Drew gets into it with Kross and gets beaten down. Kross keeps hitting refs as they pour out. A female ref or two is taken out by Scarlet. Riddle runs down and starts brawling with Kross (it’s in his interest that Drew wins — we’re reminded of this in a post-win interview). While Kross is being dealt with, Shane McMahon runs down in a ref shirt. He’s still licensed from 1992. Roman only gets two off Kross’ finisher. He’s mad, gets in Shane’s face. Shoves Shane, gets shoved back, roll-up, fast three count! Drew wins both belts under controversial circumstances.

Lock Jaw 08-20-2022 10:56 AM

Forgot all about Noam Dar and how he got a push once cause Vince thought it was funny how he said "Alicia Fuuuuuuuuuuuux"

(Read his name in the NXT thread but didn't want to post in it)

screech 08-20-2022 12:34 PM

I learned via the SquaredCircle reddit that you're racist if you don't like Hit Row.

screech 08-20-2022 12:34 PM

I didn't post anything but someone else said they're trash and got a lot of "wow racism" replies

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2022 02:41 PM

It depends why you don’t like them. I’m not sold on the whole presentation yet. It has potential. AJ Francis has something. Ashante Adonis is athletic. They feel like too much of a gimmick to me right now though. I prefer my teams to have that American Alpha ring work energy.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2022 02:45 PM

Swerve will be kicking himself that he signed with AEW to be a nothing champ with that husk Keith Lee. AEW is going to have a bit of trouble signing free agents who will be waiting for that WWE call.

Hell, a lot of AEW champions probably want to drop their belts and jump back over. Actually, I’d bet Triple H would be able to sign all the ROH champs if negotiations were open.

XL 08-20-2022 03:36 PM

Swerve, Keith Lee, Undisputed Elite all probably kicking themselves with HHH now in charge.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2022 03:39 PM

The Gunn Club would love to be WWE right now too.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2022 07:49 PM

I’m actually pretty excited for CATC. Predictions for the rest of the card:

* The Judgment Day vs. Edge & Rey Mysterio. This seems like the direction they’re heading. Edge & Rey have been presented as friends again, 20 years on from when they won the Tag Team Championship together. Finn Balor will probably make the UK card. Edge & Rey are both legends that seem likely to get a spot. Should be a really good tag team match that will involve Dominick’s decision, although I would be totally fine if it’s just a tag match with a finish and Dominik does what he does on Raw.

* Bobby Lashley vs. AJ Styles vs. The Miz vs. Omos for the US Title. Kind of thrown together, but the card already has the “workrate.” Lashley, Styles and Miz are all big stars for them, and they’ve all been intertwined. Ciampa can be at ringside for Miz running interference. He’s also fairly new to the main roster, so I don’t think they give him an actual position in the match. Omos is someone they want to be a special attraction, plus he has history with Lashley and Styles. I can see Omos winning a Battle Royal to join Lashley, Styles and Miz for the match.

* Happy Corbin vs. Pat McAfee in a Falls Count Anywhere Match. I’m iffy on whether McAfee works this show, but he’ll be there and it’s a stadium show. They’re clearly building towards another showdown between the two. It’d be very easy to get there — Corbin beats Ricochet or something (haven’t seen this week) then he pulls out a football to taunt McAfee. He teases punting it, but then hits McAfee with it and reveals that it was a loaded gimmick. McAfee is a good performer with a good connection to WWE fans.

* Kevin Owens gives an open challenge. I always forget he’s on the roster and someone that they really like. He’s a featured enough player getting a renewed enough push for this sort of thing. I can see him cussing out the UK like he did Texas. Tyler Bate answers and gets the upset victory in Wales.

That pushes the card to 9 matches, which is a lot for what they’re currently doing. But I think that is a pretty appropriate card and gives off a varied but very WWE flavor. Not everything has to hit 5 stars. That being said, a few of them are probably going to be belters.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2022 08:42 PM

Trish Stratus is going to be on Raw in Toronto.

xrodmuc316 08-21-2022 08:07 PM

Somebody ask Fan why CM Fraud doesn't have an A&E Biography. Surely it is not because he is a prick and failure at everything else or anything, right? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Lock Jaw 08-21-2022 10:56 PM

Fan is in SHAMBLES

#1-norm-fan 08-21-2022 11:16 PM

lol Why would someone else need to ask me? Did you forget who has who on pretend ignore?

Ridiculous mistakes like that are a symptom of the HEATED DUNKED ON ROFLROFLROFL SHAMBLES.

Lock Jaw 08-21-2022 11:41 PM

Lord, I was born a shamblin' man

#1-norm-fan 08-21-2022 11:46 PM

That post was ghostwritten by The Allman Brothers.

Lock Fraud

Tom Guycott 08-22-2022 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5572782)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy Friday, here is Mean Gene dancing with Sapphire <a href="https://t.co/awXdt81dqi">pic.twitter.com/awXdt81dqi</a></p>&mdash; OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1560602730636394496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


A couple of things pop into my head anytime I see Sapphire:

1) Mom was a huge Dusty fan, and a full figured woman (she wasn't a fireplug, but she wasn't a skinny girl, either... and she was always the biggest weight-wise of all her brothers and sisters up until near the end and particularly... eh... top-heavy; which I guess was genetic compensation for being the shortest of all her siblings), so seeing Sapphire dance around let her live vicariously.

2) I think of the one interview Cody and Dustin did on Jericho, where they were asked if they thought that the polka dot clothes and being paired with Sapphire "was a rib" (separate questions). The brothers disagreed with the ring gear, but thought Vince was trying to shit on their dad with that. Instead of giving him the commercially accepted standard of beauty in a valet being a tall blonde who would've been on the "eh" side of skinny, they thought they were "saddling" him with a plus-size black chick who was square in the average area of looks. But in particular, Cody's response: "I think [Sapphire] was [a rib] at first, but then she got over."

So, by not doing "Miss America", Vince unwittingly made an avatar for the everywoman because he got the idea to take the man down a few pegs.

Tom Guycott 08-22-2022 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 5572928)
I learned via the SquaredCircle reddit that you're racist if you don't like Hit Row.

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 5572929)
I didn't post anything but someone else said they're trash and got a lot of "wow racism" replies

I'm on the fence. It has all the potential to be wack-ass bullshit and stereotypes with eventually proven subpar talent, but then again, I thought the same thing about Cryme Tyme at first. They had enough personality to carry it off and not seem like something they were "saddled with".

With that said, I do wish they wouldn't keep doing that ALL THE TIME: just grouping minorities together just because. Or, if they add a white boy to Hit Row, it won't be because he fits in the picture - it will be "look at this wannabe" in full "comedic" effect. Doing something like adding Owen to The Nation and making it make actual sense would be too much like work for the writers.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5572933)
It depends why you don’t like them. I’m not sold on the whole presentation yet. It has potential. AJ Francis has something. Ashante Adonis is athletic. They feel like too much of a gimmick to me right now though. I prefer my teams to have that American Alpha ring work energy.

American Alpha was one of those things, though... a combination of Vince being super horny to get Jason Jordan over very quickly as a breakout singles star and, at the same time, leading a company that constantly tries to foster a sporadic Tag Team division when he's assed to for a few weeks to months, then splitting teams that work and pairing two rando singles together with no plan for them as a team - not even a name.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5572934)
Swerve will be kicking himself that he signed with AEW to be a nothing champ with that husk Keith Lee. AEW is going to have a bit of trouble signing free agents who will be waiting for that WWE call.

Hell, a lot of AEW champions probably want to drop their belts and jump back over. Actually, I’d bet Triple H would be able to sign all the ROH champs if negotiations were open.

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5572938)
Swerve, Keith Lee, Undisputed Elite all probably kicking themselves with HHH now in charge.

I've said before that I think that whole "HHH lied to me" thing where people were unhappy with him making promises that didn't pan out that was going around awhile ago was because he rightfully assumed he'd be in charge of shit while Vince was playing with this revamped football league, and by the time he looked back at "his baby", all the NXT call-ups would be on the main roster, pushed, over, and selling merch in a "better to ask forgiveness than permission" move to where he might not have personally picked guys like Balor and such to be main-eventing, but the results would have been too popular to change. But the exact opposite happened. Vince folded the XFL - again - and barely had time to have that train leave the station before he started running it backwards to not only undo Hunter's plans, but erode the foundational groundwork for his plans. And then, with the whole NXT edict of "super young talent with zero wrestling experience" to become wrestlers in their wrestling program, fucking with all the call-ups for seemingly no reason, and leaning too heavy on Roman and Brock without trying to push too many other people into that echelon, it seemed like the writing was on the wall for career trajectories.

Nobody expected Vince's penis to change all that. Those guys weren't just going to sit by the phone expecting Hunter to call them a half year or so later, nor did they know they'd be so minimized in AEW. That's less of a shot at Keith Lee or Swerve (my personal hangup about Keith notwithstanding) than it is about AEW doing stupid shit and not thinking past their surprise debut moment.

Bad News Gertner 08-22-2022 09:47 AM

I wish we got a triple threat match between Dusty Rhodes, Virgil and Akeem. Dusty and the two gimmicks created to mock him

Sepholio 08-22-2022 10:39 AM

Double J apparently gone from WWE after 3-4 months. Didn't say anything about being released though so maybe he just had a short term deal to work through SS.

#1-norm-fan 08-22-2022 10:41 AM

Hadn’t he been working behind the scenes there for a couple years now or was he just on a legends deal?

Sepholio 08-22-2022 11:53 AM

He had left again if I recall and then signed on again this spring as like VP of live events or something like that.

Gerard 08-22-2022 12:25 PM

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Ending of this gets me every time, like hes leaving this world heading into the next. One of the best vids they've ever done. :'(

xrodmuc316 08-22-2022 12:54 PM

Somebody ask Fan how much this makes him SIMMER :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Lock Jaw 08-22-2022 02:12 PM

The Simmerian

#1-norm-fan 08-22-2022 02:20 PM

So many questions to answer once somebody asks them.

Until then I will remain at a LOW HEAT THAT PRODUCES VERY FEW, IF ANY, BUBBLES SIMILAR TO THE TEMPERATURE ONE MIGHT POACH AN EGG AT.

#1-norm-fan 08-22-2022 04:18 PM

Fightful has confirmed that Road Dogg has returned to WWE after begging Tony Khan for a job.

Mr. Nerfect 08-22-2022 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5573060)
Somebody ask Fan how much this makes him SIMMER :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Lol. R-Truth is a future Hall of Famer.

#1-norm-fan 08-23-2022 01:16 AM

Does that count as asking?

Rammsteinmad 08-23-2022 03:54 AM

Never would have imagined back in 2001 that K-Kwik would still be around 21 years later. And that he'd still look the same age.

Stu Hart 08-24-2022 12:59 PM

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Bad News Gertner 08-24-2022 05:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Always loved when Ray Traylor (in his many forms) would find unique ways to use the ropes to sell for a smaller wrestler without bumping. <a href="https://t.co/lFcdbyRA23">pic.twitter.com/lFcdbyRA23</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1562516456335900673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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