3 thors, two HAwkeyes, 3 wolverines - 4 if you count the little one, 2 Angels, 3 spiderman clones plus the original.
It's a pain in the ass and if I wasn't a fan of the Bronze age X-men i'd switch to Dc... of course hats been fucked up for the past 10+ years as well

Just really thankful that All New Ultimates has been good so far, though I'm sure they'll fuck that up.

I was so fucking pissed off at New 52. I grew up a Marvel kid. I had the odd DC comic here or there, as well as trades of Death of Superman and Kingdom Come, but I didn't really get into DC until I got back into comics in 2003, during the lead up to Infinite Crisis. I read so many old trades and wikipedia articles to learn the history of the DCU.

All for them to throw it all the fuck away for a new, plastic, focus group approved version. Felt like a slap in the face, and I haven't read a thing since, except for Green Lantern which kept its continuity and is SHOCKINGLY one of the consistantly great reads because of that.

Never was a huge fun of DC. Like some Batman stories, but could never get into the whole universe. Also, getting through the classic Dark Knight Returns was a pain in the ass for me, because of the terrible artwork.

As for All New Ultimates, I haven't got to that yet. What are the titles?

(I'm currently at the beginning of April, had no time to read comics weekly last few weeks)

Oh no, its not Ultimate universe, just tne one title. The Ultimates (2015) Team consists of Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Spectrum, Blue Marvel, and America Chavez. They're a preemptive team that tackles cosmic level problems, with their first mission being to cure Galactus of his hunger. I read it through marvel unlimited, so I'm several months behind whats on the shelf, but its been great so far. Good art work too.

I am a big fan of marvels cosmic stuff, especially when they get the abstract entities involved.

Oh, I stopped reading this after they turned Galactus gold and he became lifebringer or something like that. Not really into space stuff, other than Guardians.

I also see they got X-Men Prime, Gold, Blue and some others. Jesus.

Yeah, tried reading some of the more recent x-men stuff, and none of it did anything for me. Don't mind x-23 as wolverine, but fuck, they changed everything about her personality that made her interesting. She's like a normal girl now. Boring.

True. Used to be a tormented, cold-blooded killer, now she has morals and shit, it's like a Kitty Pryde with claws or something.

If it weren't for boredom and sentiment I'd stop reading Marvel altogether. Quite some time ago, really.

Has the whole Peter Parker/Brand New Day stuff been retconned yet? Obviously I'm still a little behind with modern Marvel, are we still in the reality where Peter and MJ never married etc?

There're soe many versions, you can get confused. But the main book (amazing spiderman) has Peter Parker as a single billionare. But you know, I haven't read it in like 3 months, since they started another fucking clone saga.

Well now we have Ben Reilly back (Whose bat shit crazy), we have Kaine (whose out to kill Ben Reilly) we have Otto who now inhabits a cloned body from the Dha of both Otto and Peter, We have Miles Morales from the Ultimate Universe swinging around. We have two alternate Universe Gwen Stacy's that pop in and out of ours one who was bit by the Spider instead of Peter and one whose kooky as shit, from a Superboy Prime type universe and is more or less a pink powerless Deadpool. Then we have Silk who was apparently bitten at same time Parker was and so frightened of what was happening to her she locked herself in a bunker for x number of years.

The we have the Renew your Vows Spiderman family who may or may not be living in the old 616 universe.

WHole thing makes the old X-men potential future timeline look simple as fuck to understand.

Yeah, I stopped following Renew Your Vows. It sucked.

And wasn't Silk locked in a bunker by someone rather than herself? I think that's what it was about.

Yah, just checked, it was Ezekiel. Whatever, the easiest Spiderman to follow is Miles Morales, but he started travelling meeting Gwen Stacy's left and right so we'll see how this goes.

That Spider-Man post made my head hurt

That is the state of Spiderman at the moment.
Makes the now current x-titles simple in comparison.

Only good thing Marvel has done in the last year was resurrect Namor but then they went and gave us the abortion that is now Hank Pym/Ultron meld

Say what you will about DC, but at least they only have one of each character......... except for Wally West, I guess.......

I like the current superman family but I am sure they will screw that up soon.

I sense another recon coming up after the current Watchman storyline is done.

I enjoyed the Green Lantern Star Trek Crossovers

I saw they made a second Green Lantern/Star Trek..... I enjoyed the first one.... Should check out the second.....

:|

I read about Ben Reilly being back! Thought that was kinda cool as I like the character back in the day (am I the only one who didn't have any problems with the Clone Saga?!?!)... but redoing the Clone Saga etc does definitely seem a bit forced.

I'll judge it when I get to it, though.

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Can't believe I haven't heard about this up until now.

What's extra fucking dumb about it is way back in God of Thunder, Gorr literally calls him on it, and Thor basically acknowledges that Gorr's assumption is true. Thor didn't lose his his worthiness when Gorr said it, so why the fuck would he when Fury says it.

Indeed. Gorr said it and Thor was like "meh".

Fury said "Gorr was right" and he goes all "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and spazzes the fuck out.

The "logic" is that when Fury said Thor believed it.

But thats dumb because Thor doesnt decide os he's worthy Mjholnir does...but maybe the doubt made him unworthy...i dunno.

Thor did believe it when Gorr said it. I think Sixx is understating Thor's reaction. It clearly bothered him, but he confronted the doubt internally and moved on.

I really hope this doesn't lead to gorr coming back. I loved God of Thunder 1-11, and it all ended so perfectly.

I love Thor, but having 3 is retarded.



Ugh.

If we get any more Thor movies pist infinity war, we need Gorr as the villain. So fucking good.

Yeah, "Future Thor" should have ended with his battle with Galactus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Legacy

Quesada teased the cover artwork for the opening issue,[4] hinting at the possible return of Bruce Banner as Hulk, Tony Stark as Iron Man, Thor Odinson reclaiming the hammer Mjolnir, and the appearance of other superheroes in their classic costumes.

WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT!

Oh, this looks terrible.



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I thought it looked pretty good, considering how awful that promo picture of them all looked, this looks like it'll be fun.

Lockjaw looks great, im very excited

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