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Sepholio 10-13-2021 09:01 PM

I forgot it wasn't on tonight and was disappointed by a hockey game I have no interest in appearing on my TV.

Mr. Nerfect 10-13-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5486970)
It's Wednesday.... isn't it on?

It got bumped off Wednesdays for a show with a lower but more desirable demo.

Damian Rey 2.0 10-13-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5486976)
I think they need to keep Omega as champ. Hangman has like zero momentum

Good thing they have an entire month for Hangman to pick up steam after coming back to a huge reaction and getting a huge win. He’s over as fuck with their audience and the story is still there. They shouldn’t have an issue building him back up and making the program interesting. And we’ll get cocky arrogant Omega bragging that Paige can’t beat him because he’s pinned him twice in the last year in two of the biggest matches Paige has had since being forced back into singles competition.

Triple A 10-13-2021 09:46 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kenny vs Hangman<br><br>Bryan vs Mox<br><br>Inner Circle vs American Top Team<br><br>MJF vs Darby<br><br>Punk vs Wardlow<br><br>Britt vs ???<br><br>Thunder Rosa vs Jade Cargill<br><br>Christian vs Cole<br><br>Young Bucks vs Jurassic Express<br><br>Cody vs Malakai Black OR Andrade OR Miro<br><br>Luchas vs &quot;PTA&quot;</p>&mdash; HugoNexxion (@Hugo_Nexxion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hugo_Nexxion/status/1448406381384671234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0 10-13-2021 10:02 PM

That’s a stacked card. Rosa v Jade is prob the tbs title final. Idk how they get to Mox v Danielson but I’ll watch it. Punk v Wardlow should be fun. Hangman gonna get his moment after 2+ years. Can’t wait.

Triple A 10-13-2021 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5486991)
Idk how they get to Mox v Danielson but I’ll watch it.

World Title Eliminator tournament final maybe?

Punk vs. Wardlow would be cool if it means MJF is involved, feuding with Punk

Damian Rey 2.0 10-13-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5486993)
World Title Eliminator tournament final maybe?

Punk vs. Wardlow would be cool if it means MJF is involved, feuding with Punk

Ohhh that’sa good point. You’re probably right. Interesting to see if they run hangman v Danielson and if Danielson goes over or not. And to see who gets the majority of the crowd on their side. I could see Paige having a short run to keep his falling short story continuing.

Wardlow v Punk transitioning into Punk v MJF would be great. That would be a great program for both guys and if I had to choose someone to get Punk’s first loss MJF would definitely be on the short list.

xrodmuc316 10-13-2021 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5486990)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kenny vs Hangman<br><br>Bryan vs Mox<br><br>Inner Circle vs American Top Team<br><br>MJF vs Darby<br><br>Punk vs Wardlow<br><br>Britt vs ???<br><br>Thunder Rosa vs Jade Cargill<br><br>Christian vs Cole<br><br>Young Bucks vs Jurassic Express<br><br>Cody vs Malakai Black OR Andrade OR Miro<br><br>Luchas vs &quot;PTA&quot;</p>&mdash; HugoNexxion (@Hugo_Nexxion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hugo_Nexxion/status/1448406381384671234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL, this picture perfectly captures why Shad Khan gives Tony all this money to keep him occupied and away from having any responsibility in the real businesses.

You just KNOW Tony was bugging the players like an annoying 10 year old. "Oh hey Laviska, that's a cool name. You should come on Dynamite, we can call you Lavish Laviska!" "Whoa Myles Jack, you are actually Jacked! Its a Pun and you are so awesome, hey what do you think of my booking sheet?" "Carlos Hyde, that is a name that screams power! Its almost as powerful as Miro!"

Tom Guycott 10-13-2021 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5486888)
Ain't nobody watching Elevation/Dark except the real die hards who watch everything anyways. They are definitely not being made to attract new eyes or attention.

Elevation/Dark is the new Jakked/Metal. You heard it here first! :MTV News sounder:

Vastardikai 10-14-2021 12:06 AM

I want to thank AEW for one thing more than anything else.

I used to think that, if given the chance to see him, the average fan would care about Minoru Suzuki.

Evidence has proven that to be false. And I say that as a huge Suzuki fan. To be fair, it's not like AEW has given anyone much of a reason to care. Much like everyone else in AEW, if you didn't know who he was, you won't find out.

Lock Jaw 10-14-2021 12:49 AM

I was "intrigued" when he first showed up, because he was presented as a "tough guy" and did have a "tough guy look"..... but then they hot-shotted the match against Moxley right away instead of building it up.... I did enjoy the match for what it was....

But then after Mox won they made Suzuki into a whiny "l'il b****" who was complaining about his song getting cut off and about the hometown advantage..... and it became a weird thing where they were still trying to sell him as a badass tough guy but presenting him as a whining complainer.....

Mr. Nerfect 10-14-2021 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5487003)
I want to thank AEW for one thing more than anything else.

I used to think that, if given the chance to see him, the average fan would care about Minoru Suzuki.

Evidence has proven that to be false. And I say that as a huge Suzuki fan. To be fair, it's not like AEW has given anyone much of a reason to care. Much like everyone else in AEW, if you didn't know who he was, you won't find out.

Yeah, it’s been a huge myth busted. He’s looked too giddy to be there, and he’s surprisingly small, or framed to be small in this environment. And the matches have reportedly been pretty bad.

The New Japan team are brilliant at covering that shit up. And it should also be noted they are also niche as fuck, even in Japan.

Mr3Maker 10-14-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5486990)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kenny vs Hangman<br><br>Bryan vs Mox<br><br>Inner Circle vs American Top Team<br><br>MJF vs Darby<br><br>Punk vs Wardlow<br><br>Britt vs ???<br><br>Thunder Rosa vs Jade Cargill<br><br>Christian vs Cole<br><br>Young Bucks vs Jurassic Express<br><br>Cody vs Malakai Black OR Andrade OR Miro<br><br>Luchas vs &quot;PTA&quot;</p>&mdash; HugoNexxion (@Hugo_Nexxion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hugo_Nexxion/status/1448406381384671234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's trolling EVERYONE.

#1-norm-fan 10-14-2021 12:03 PM

Feel like Lance Archer should be getting pushed more. Thought he was bland as hell in WWE but everything I’ve seen from him in AEW has made me want to see him in the main event. He’s got a good old school look, size, personality, he can go in the ring. He should be in a better spot.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-14-2021 12:11 PM

Well, he's big in Japan. So, he is always going to have divided attention.

xrodmuc316 10-14-2021 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr3Maker (Post 5487040)
He's trolling EVERYONE.

LOL there is ZERO chance he did that on purpose.

Triple A 10-14-2021 01:41 PM

Very careless......... Khan seems to be "erratic" lately tbh...

Mr. Nerfect 10-14-2021 01:46 PM

TK has also responded to SmackDown going commercial free in their last half-hour by saying he’s got more money than they do, so he can do it longer.

His dad has more money than they do, but he’s not able to access it all for the purposes of wrestling. Nor does WWE need to continuously go commercial free to bury them. He’s radiated the most insecure energy right now.

Vastardikai 10-14-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5487012)
Yeah, it’s been a huge myth busted. He’s looked too giddy to be there, and he’s surprisingly small, or framed to be small in this environment. And the matches have reportedly been pretty bad.

The New Japan team are brilliant at covering that shit up. And it should also be noted they are also niche as fuck, even in Japan.

I feel like, if this were WWE, they would have made his arrival matter. Like, tell us who he is and why he is important. Have contracted talent who are fans and who have wrestled him put him over. And maybe put him against someone who isn't Jon "I could be a big star in a mainstream wrestling environment, but I'd rather take a light tube up my ass in some barn" Moxley. But that would just "insult the fans intelligence." You know, fans who think Suzuki is a bigger star than the Rock (and that ridiculous, even as a Suzuki fan).

Evil Vito 10-14-2021 03:01 PM

Don't really see why people get worked up over everything Tony Khan does.

I think he's being very careful about what he's saying too. He's not saying, "we're going to beat WWE in the ratings", or "we're going to run them out of business" like Eric Bischoff would have. He's just saying "if you look at what they're doing, then look at us, you know we'll have the better show on Friday" - and that's hard to reasonably argue against, and also means there's no objective measure by which he could be said to have failed at that aim.

Mr. Nerfect 10-14-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5487058)
I feel like, if this were WWE, they would have made his arrival matter. Like, tell us who he is and why he is important. Have contracted talent who are fans and who have wrestled him put him over. And maybe put him against someone who isn't Jon "I could be a big star in a mainstream wrestling environment, but I'd rather take a light tube up my ass in some barn" Moxley. But that would just "insult the fans intelligence." You know, fans who think Suzuki is a bigger star than the Rock (and that ridiculous, even as a Suzuki fan).

If you didn’t know who Suzuki was (most people), then you still don’t really now. He’s a small Japanese dude that the company made a big deal about without him winning a single thing who loves his own entrance music. They assume knowledge that just cannot possibly be there in their audience, which is a huge, huge mistake in television.

Mr. Nerfect 10-14-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5487061)
Don't really see why people get worked up over everything Tony Khan does.

I think he's being very careful about what he's saying too. He's not saying, "we're going to beat WWE in the ratings", or "we're going to run them out of business" like Eric Bischoff would have. He's just saying "if you look at what they're doing, then look at us, you know we'll have the better show on Friday" - and that's hard to reasonably argue against, and also means there's no objective measure by which he could be said to have failed at that aim.

Because he’s the spokesperson for the company. He is also the promoter and booker, so it lends insight into the direction of things there.

I don’t think he’s careful at all. Eric Bischoff was at least a stone’s throw away from achieving what he said he would. TK is still trying to deliver on wins and losses mattering.

He said he’s looking forward to “beating” SmackDown. Now, that will change from meaning ratings to demo to AEW fan poll approval rating, but he’s picking fights that most acknowledge have made him look pretty silly — or will when he doesn’t deliver.

Perception is REALLY important. That’s why fans care about things like ratings. They help quantify a promotion’s effectiveness and success. Promotions that can’t hit their goals are going to have a harder time getting people hyped than one that does, and promoting is all about delivering on hype.

He’s setting up “LolAEW” jokes. They might take a different form, but if AEW gets slaughtered on Friday, people are going to take pause.

drave 10-14-2021 04:18 PM

Who's the larger fanbase, hardcore or casual fan?

Mr. Nerfect 10-14-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5487076)
Who's the larger fanbase, hardcore or casual fan?

Easily casual. Hardcores are the ones being pandered to and buying tickets though (in my opinion). A lot of casuals I know will not go to live events anymore. But that’s just anecdotal. You can tell by even the WWE crowds though.

I think there’s shades of hardcore fan though. For example, there are people who will pop for an act because they’re from New Japan, but they’ve never watched New Japan.

But there are way more people with an interest in wrestling who just do not have time for this shit (either AEW or WWE).

drave 10-14-2021 04:31 PM

I would say "casual" fans don't care what ratings are, or how to even read them.

Mr. Nerfect 10-14-2021 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5487080)
I would say "casual" fans don't care what ratings are, or how to even read them.

They’re different arguments. Casual fans don’t even care or know about what AEW is.

Noid 10-14-2021 05:56 PM

That's untrue. Casual wrestling fans who get their fill from Twitter and YouTube, do watch, follow or keep up with AEW.

Destor 10-14-2021 06:00 PM

if you think noid is a casual you might be an idiot

xrodmuc316 10-14-2021 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5487052)
TK has also responded to SmackDown going commercial free in their last half-hour by saying he’s got more money than they do, so he can do it longer.

His dad has more money than they do, but he’s not able to access it all for the purposes of wrestling. Nor does WWE need to continuously go commercial free to bury them. He’s radiated the most insecure energy right now.

He is an idiot. His FATHER has a larger net worth than Vince, but that is based on all his assets. Until he sells the Jaguars, that is $2.8 Billion that is not available to his stupid manchild son. Same for the bumper business or his soccer team.

Vince on the other hand doesnt just have his own net worth, WWE as a publicly traded company itself is valued at $4.53 Billion. Unlike Tony who has to use his daddy's money, WWE can use its actual business to run said business.

Again, Tony Khan is an idiot. He is 40 and acts like a moody teenager. The fact he said what he said proves he has no idea how businesses actually work, and would bankrupt his company if Shad decided to stop wasting his money.

AEW has grown into a much more entertaining TV show, but aside from the actual product, everything they do or say outside the hours they are on tv is embarrassing.

Noid 10-14-2021 06:12 PM

Ugh, that Tony Khan is such an idiot :roll: Such a moody bitch too. Sucking on daddy's tit for money. So embarrassing.

Fignuts 10-14-2021 06:55 PM

I literally thought Tony Khan was in his late 20's at most, given how he carries himself, and behaves on social media.

xrodmuc316 10-14-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5487097)
Ugh, that Tony Khan is such an idiot :roll: Such a moody bitch too. Sucking on daddy's tit for money. So embarrassing.

I know I know, like he produces 3 hours of good TV a week so we should just give him a pass on the other 165 hours he is behaving like a spoiled petulant child.

Sepholio 10-14-2021 08:20 PM

Can't wait for WWE to bring back the illegitimate child of Vince McMahon angle and reveal that his real missing son is Tony Khan.

xrodmuc316 10-14-2021 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5487109)
Can't wait for WWE to bring back the illegitimate child of Vince McMahon angle and reveal that his real missing son is Tony Khan.

We dont see Vince much outside the wrestling bubble, but from what we have seen over the years, he certainly is really creepy and weird too. :rofl:

Noid 10-14-2021 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5487107)
I know I know, like he produces 3 hours of good TV a week so we should just give him a pass on the other 165 hours he is behaving like a spoiled petulant child.

Such a spoiled petulant child...probably a virgin too. Whining about muh demos and muh daddys jaguars. Wah wah Vinnie mac is poopy

Mr. Nerfect 10-14-2021 10:06 PM

I think the sock account tantrums kind of prove a point.

Destor 10-14-2021 10:27 PM

certainly not the one he thinks he's making

James Steele 10-14-2021 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5487139)
I think the sock account tantrums kind of prove a point.

That you are a parody yourself?

Noid 10-14-2021 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5487145)
certainly not the one he thinks he's making

Good ol' Destor and his salt of the earth ways, thinks he has it all figured out. Has strong opinions on his kids while being a drunkard and a distant father. Comical.

Noid 10-14-2021 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5487139)
I think the sock account tantrums kind of prove a point.

xrod's posting style is obnoxious and boring?


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