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Savio 05-14-2015 07:14 PM

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Rammsteinmad 05-14-2015 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4631678)
Zack Ryder hasn't evolved his character in like four years though. The best thing he ever did with it was at the start with his ECW Title match with Christian too. A heel turn with Ryder sucking up to The Authority would probably be the best thing for Ryder at the moment.

Not really his fault though. I mean, what has he actually done since dropping the US title?

He did try to become more serious in that revamped show of his (forgotten the name), but WWE just seem determined not to have him do anything.

Mr. Nerfect 05-14-2015 07:48 PM

Oh, I agree it is not entirely his fault, but I just don't see people suddenly latching onto it again.

Emperor Smeat 05-14-2015 08:11 PM

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The confusion over the three-hour episode of TNA Impact Wrestling scheduled for next Friday seems to be because there will be no new episode of the show airing. Instead, Destination America will be airing the 2014 Slammiversary PPV from 8-11 p.m. It's worth noting next weekend is Memorial Day Weekend in the U.S., likely the reason for the change.

Slammiversary '14 was taped June 15, 2014, in Arlington, TX, headlined by Eric Young vs. Austin Aries vs. Bobby Lashley for the TNA title. It also featured Kevin Von Erich's return to wrestling in Texas as the cornerman for sons Marshall & Ross Von Erich.
Reason is due to Destination America not wanting a new Impact episode to be shown during Memorial Day and potential hurt ratings even more than they are now. Observer also confirmed Destination America lost all interest they had with TNA in the past few months.

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Originally Posted by Observer
According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Jeff Jarrett has been talking to WGN, Spike, Fox Sports 2 and CMT about a possible television deal for Global Force Wrestling.

There is no deal between GFW and Jim Ross, but the two sides are in negotiations. Jarrett is hoping to get more financial backing as well.

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Originally Posted by Observer
We noted before that TNA was seriously making a play for top TNA tag team The Young Bucks. Word is that The Bucks have turned down the offer as their priority is New Japan Pro Wrestling.

TNA finally paid all of their production workers this past week. They were said to be shorted on money from January and February, and hadn't been paid for March yet. If the workers weren't paid, they were refusing to work, which would have caused a problem for the scheduled May 8th Impact Wrestling.

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Originally Posted by Observer
The TNA creative team is now led by David Lagana with Matt Conway and Christy Hemme, who is more of a liaison between Gaburick and the TNA Knockouts. Billy Corgan is now on the creative team as well, working under Gaburick and Dixie Carter.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Mike Tenay will return to TNA Impact Wrestling commentary on Friday's episode but apparently it's not a permanent change. No word yet on why Al Snow wasn't brought back to work with Josh Mathews this past week but as noted, "The Pope" D'Angelo Dinero does some commentary on the May 22nd episode. It's still not clear who the TNA announce team will be.

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Sanada's release came due to a "political crossfire" between TNA and Wrestle-1, who had a talent exchange going. Wrestle-1 fell on hard financial times in Japan so they had to cut back on events and weren't able to book TNA talents following the November event at Sumo Hall that didn't do so well. When Wrestle-1 stopped booking TNA talents, TNA decided to stop using Sanada.
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On Dropped Muppet Gimmick

“I thought I was a rich man. I’ll tell you how rich I thought I was. When Vince approved the gimmick, when he told me that he loved it, I took my wife out to Mr. Chow when I got home because I just saw money,” JTG said.

“It was my idea, the Idea stemmed from this character I used to do in promo class. WWE Superstars, before Raw, some Superstars were called in early to the show—like maybe an hour early—and we would have hands-on classes with Vince McMahon and we did promo classes where it was kind of like improv and working on promos.”

“He would give us an exercise where he would say ‘say anything and you have to cut a promo on it.’”

“i can’t remember what word he gave me, but there was a few times where I started talking to myself and it was highly entertaining, and I created a new character with a double personality. His name was Self.”

“The idea was for the muppet to look exactly like me,” JTG said. “The premise behind the whole Self-Muppet idea was for it to be seen and heard by the WWE Universe, but not seen by anybody backstage. For example, if me and you were talking backstage, Self would be insulting you but you couldn’t hear him. Only me and the WWE Universe, he was kind of like my conscience.”
Segment from JTG's recently released book.

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Some other sheet news include:

Lock Jaw 05-14-2015 08:17 PM

I am approx 10 weeks behind in NXT.... should catch up....

Droford 05-14-2015 08:49 PM

Owens sat in a chair ringside at the start of the 3x match with Balor and Breeze and we got chill Owens chill and sit Owens sit chants.

Also got a Blake sucks Murphy that's ok chant and SHIT after every BULL in Bull Drmpseys theme:

Lock Jaw 05-14-2015 09:26 PM

Now nine weeks behind.... forgot what an awesome theme song Alex Riley has.... Too bad it is Alex Riley....

Savio 05-14-2015 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4631671)
:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

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I remember his promo here being really shitty:

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Droford 05-14-2015 10:15 PM

If HHH posts his cell phone video I'm almost certainly in it..

Droford 05-14-2015 10:21 PM

It's on periscope no android app though

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-14-2015 10:32 PM

What the hell is Shoot Nation had it ever been on NXT TV? Or was is just a House show thing?

#1-norm-fan 05-14-2015 10:36 PM

I like Zack Ryder fine. He peaked in that TLC match against Ziggler though. There was nothing more for him. I thought he should have gotten a WrestleMania match against Eve's new man (preferably The Miz) where he could get a good mid-card WrestleMania moment out of that... but he just wasn't a long-term star.

Shadrick 05-15-2015 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4631775)
I like Zack Ryder fine. He peaked in that TLC match against Ziggler though. There was nothing more for him. I thought he should have gotten a WrestleMania match against Eve's new man (preferably The Miz) where he could get a good mid-card WrestleMania moment out of that... but he just wasn't a long-term star.

I always felt like stuff with a creative base is subjective. Maybe I'm biased because I grew up watching ECW, and watching guys weaknesses getting hidden, and their strengths being accentuated, but there is literally no one on the roster right now that I feel, if given the right program and the right situation, that can't believably get over and main event a PPV or several. Or become main event players in general.

WWE is just so one track minded with shit, and not consistent, nothing ever gets started up and KEPT up. Wade should have won that title from Orton. The Kofi feud with Orton should have never stopped. Nexus should have gone over at Summerslam. Cody should have won MITB that year, since Sandow just threw it away against Cena on a random Monday night. Also, SANDOW THREW IT AWAY AGAINST CENA ON A RANDOM MONDAY NIGHT. Ryback heel turn? Fandaaaangooooo is stupid and can't be taken seriously. They tried to snuff out Daniel Bryan, but by DB's own words, they couldn't ignore it any more. If they aren't careful, Ambrose is next. And Wyatt.

Rammsteinmad 05-15-2015 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4631708)
Oh, I agree it is not entirely his fault, but I just don't see people suddenly latching onto it again.

Can't explain that, but I've always been behind Ryder since his Z! True Long Island Story days. Couldn't care less about any weaknesses he had, the guy made himself one of the most over guys on the roster, entirely on his own, and WWE just stood there and did fuck all with it.

Surely that's the kinda employee you'd want, right? Guy had arenas all over America (and the World, maybe?) chanting "We Want Ryder! Woo! Woo! Woo!", and he did it completely by himself, without the WWE getting behind him. Kinda guy with passion and drive like that, that's who I'd want under my employ if I had a choice.

GD 05-15-2015 05:27 AM

Only on PC

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Innovator 05-15-2015 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4631772)
What the hell is Shoot Nation had it ever been on NXT TV? Or was is just a House show thing?

They've been on one episode but weren't announced as Shoot Nation

Droford 05-15-2015 07:51 AM

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Mr. Nerfect 05-15-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4631862)
Can't explain that, but I've always been behind Ryder since his Z! True Long Island Story days. Couldn't care less about any weaknesses he had, the guy made himself one of the most over guys on the roster, entirely on his own, and WWE just stood there and did fuck all with it.

Surely that's the kinda employee you'd want, right? Guy had arenas all over America (and the World, maybe?) chanting "We Want Ryder! Woo! Woo! Woo!", and he did it completely by himself, without the WWE getting behind him. Kinda guy with passion and drive like that, that's who I'd want under my employ if I had a choice.

They definitely could have made more money off him than they did.

Hanso Amore 05-15-2015 12:26 PM

I hate this "most over guys on the roster" thing about Ryder.

His big moments were a few in SUPER smark heavy audiences. Then two weeks later hes in Indiana and no one gives two fucks about him.

They gave his smark base a nice little payoff but No, he wasnt a long term star and he never did anything once he had the ball to keep it.

Evil Vito 05-15-2015 12:49 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Ryder's high water mark was always going to be holding one of the secondary belts, and he did it.

Do I think they could have done more with him than they did? Absolutely. He's not bad in the ring, has a clear passion for wrestling, and seemed to get decent reactions. He probably could have been kept solidly in the midcard where he'd actually have programs/things to do instead of immediately going back to being Superstars fodder. But World Champion? No chance.</font>

Emperor Smeat 05-15-2015 01:57 PM

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Savio 05-15-2015 02:07 PM

Cool, but why not just kick him in the chin in the first place?

Rammsteinmad 05-15-2015 02:16 PM

Why hold hands in the first place?

Droford 05-15-2015 02:22 PM

Impact is moving to Wednesday on June 3rd.

Nxt, Lucha and TNA all on sname night

Rammsteinmad 05-15-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4632024)
<font color=goldenrod>Ryder's high water mark was always going to be holding one of the secondary belts, and he did it.

Do I think they could have done more with him than they did? Absolutely. He's not bad in the ring, has a clear passion for wrestling, and seemed to get decent reactions. He probably could have been kept solidly in the midcard where he'd actually have programs/things to do instead of immediately going back to being Superstars fodder. But World Champion? No chance.</font>

Absolutely. Never would look at Zack Ryder as world champion material (then again, that was probably said about 90% of world champions when they were relatively new) but the guy was super over, won the US title, dropped it two/three weeks later and then pretty much got dumped.

Guy has a legit passion for wrestling, desire and ingenuity. I don't care what people think about Zack, whether his character had longevity or not, ultimately, these are the qualities I'd look for in my employees.

Can't even remember how the subject of Zack Ryder came up in this thread, but damn I wish WWE would use him. He's a solid midcarder and has a lot to offer.

CSL 05-15-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4632072)
Cool, but why not just kick him in the chin in the first place?

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4632078)
Why hold hands in the first place?

"why tie up in the first place"

"why run back when they hit the ropes in the first place"

"why not trip the guy over and stamp on his head as hard as possible and win in 3 seconds in the first place"

come on

Ruien 05-15-2015 04:58 PM

So the Network is free to anyone this month? They sent me a email telling me to comeback and May will be free. I get to see PAYMOTHERFUCKINGBACK for free.

Emperor Smeat 05-15-2015 05:15 PM

Same like last time, its free to new and expired members but not for current members.

Rammsteinmad 05-15-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4632107)
"why tie up in the first place"

"why run back when they hit the ropes in the first place"

"why not trip the guy over and stamp on his head as hard as possible and win in 3 seconds in the first place"

come on

"Why post such a reply when it's fairly obvious we're not being serious?"

Come on.

Volare 05-15-2015 06:09 PM

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Seriously.

Mr. Nerfect 05-15-2015 06:17 PM

Nakamura is the sort of nutcase who would fluff around like that anyway.

By the way, is Nakamura vs. Ambrose sort of a dream match to anyone else?

Mr. Nerfect 05-15-2015 06:20 PM

I was thinking about the 2/3 Falls Match for the Tag Team Titles at Payback today (by the way, I can't believe we haven't been talking about that more). I hope that what happens is that Cesaro & Kidd face Kofi & Woods, or something, and then after the faces win the first fall, Big E takes Woods' place. It wouldn't make too much sense following the strict laws of professional wrestling, but it would get heat and give Cesaro & Kidd a way to look great in losing.

VSG 05-15-2015 09:55 PM

Looks like Samoa Joe and WWE worked it out. Expected debut soon.

Lock Jaw 05-15-2015 10:23 PM

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Need to cut just Roman Reigns out of this pic so it is just him...

Lock Jaw 05-15-2015 10:25 PM

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Highly decorated

Emperor Smeat 05-15-2015 10:47 PM

Haven't seen it spread around the net yet but supposedly Destination America's tv deal with TNA includes the ability for DA to opt out of their 2 year deal around this September.

Assuming its true, big possibility TNA is going to need to find a new home if Impact ratings continue to struggle or DA still doesn't care about TNA by then.

Damian Rey 05-16-2015 12:34 AM

TNA should just fucking quit already.

Dark One 05-16-2015 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4632414)
TNA should just fucking quit already.

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Heisenberg 05-16-2015 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4632360)
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Need to cut just Roman Reigns out of this pic so it is just him...

http://i.imgur.com/IWo3fAS.png

Lock Jaw 05-16-2015 01:29 AM

Yeah yeah yeah, that's the stuff....

Lock Jaw 05-16-2015 01:30 AM


Heisenberg 05-16-2015 01:31 AM

I was gonna place a shitty DVD movie and add some caption to it, but I started working on that champion .gif

Dark One 05-16-2015 03:30 AM

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Lock Jaw 05-16-2015 03:36 AM

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Lock Jaw 05-16-2015 03:42 AM

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Lock Jaw 05-16-2015 03:44 AM

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CSL 05-16-2015 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4632217)
"Why post such a reply when it's fairly obvious we're not being serious?"

Come on.

it's not fairly obvious at all buddy, especially given your penchant for having a bit of a moan http://www.tpwwforums.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Rammsteinmad 05-16-2015 08:29 AM

Because you're a fine example of someone who never moans online. :y:

Volare 05-16-2015 08:39 AM

Sorry got distracted saw all the "moaning" in here while looking at Lana....

Emperor Smeat 05-16-2015 11:27 AM

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Vastardikai 05-16-2015 11:51 AM

That time Mike Rotunda Steiner-lined Rick Steiner.

Also, Varsity Club was extremely underrated.

GD 05-16-2015 03:08 PM

As a kid, I was genuinely afraid of IRS. As an adult, I can't say the same about Bray Wyatt.

slik 05-16-2015 07:42 PM

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GD 05-16-2015 08:18 PM

lol

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Rammsteinmad 05-16-2015 09:02 PM

I really don't get Frozen. What is the big deal with it and that song?

Shadrick 05-16-2015 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4632783)
I really don't get Frozen. What is the big deal with it and that song?

its kid shit

Droford 05-16-2015 11:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/FightOwensFight">@FightOwensFight</a> channels his inner <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnCena">@JohnCena</a> against <a href="https://twitter.com/MmmGorgeous">@MmmGorgeous</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/wwebalor">@wwebalor</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXTAlbany?src=hash">#NXTAlbany</a> <a href="http://t.co/2MScj5jW3O">pic.twitter.com/2MScj5jW3O</a></p>&mdash; SXM Busted Open (@BustedOpenRadio) <a href="https://twitter.com/BustedOpenRadio/status/599756889296080896">May 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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we need Owens to face Cena on Raw now, make it happen

Emperor Smeat 05-16-2015 11:36 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big thanks to the Americans at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEStateCollege?src=hash">#WWEStateCollege</a> for stealing my star of the Russian federation. Hope eBay is gud to you.</p>&mdash; Rusev (@RusevBUL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusevBUL/status/599456401778421760">May 16, 2015</a></blockquote>
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The person who stole it decided one of the first things to do when he got back from the event was to post a picture of himself wearing it.

CSL 05-16-2015 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4632509)
Because you're a fine example of someone who never moans online. :y:

exactly! Astute observation #smugsmileybecausethereisntone

Droford 05-16-2015 11:55 PM

Putins gonna someone after them and get it back

Dark One 05-17-2015 12:50 AM

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we need Owens to face Cena on Raw now, make it happen

This is the greatest thing in NXT history.

Dark One 05-17-2015 01:31 AM

RKO OUTTA NO WHERE

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Wait a second...

Tom Guycott 05-17-2015 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 4632009)
I hate this "most over guys on the roster" thing about Ryder.

His big moments were a few in SUPER smark heavy audiences. Then two weeks later hes in Indiana and no one gives two fucks about him.

They gave his smark base a nice little payoff but No, he wasnt a long term star and he never did anything once he had the ball to keep it.

There is one major hole in this "he's just a smark phenom" logic certain guys get: Kevin Owens.

I distinctly remember a post about Kevin Steen looking "like a fan". I believe it had some disparaging things to say about Tyler Black, too... but IN SPITE OF being a so-called indy darling because of his RoH stint, he is being booked like a million goddamn dollars in NXT. They could have easily said "fuck this guy" and he and Bull Dempsey could have easily had their roles reversed. Instead of burying him or letting him languish off camera, they piggybacked off of what fame he had.

Ryder got over on his own, and that translated into a miniscule increase in TV time. WwE has tried in the past to force feed guys with less EVERYTHING than Zack had going for him. John Cena was generic as they come on his debut, and he had no following and he eventually became marketed as "the man".

A misconception seems to be he should have been strapped to a rocket and instantly in contention to be WWE champion. Not the case.The issue is the head-in-the-sand mentality of WWE; "if we don't like it, it's unimportant". He basically did all the legwork. He got over in a way WWE didn't even really consider. Hell, until "Z!" got as huge as it did, WWE still acted like the internet was in the same state it was in about 1995... a non factor, loose collection of IWC neckbeard virgins banging away on keyboards in basements and college labs instead of this thing that almost everyone at their live shows has access to in their pockets all the time.

And even after this, you'd think they'd feature the guy more or put him in proper feuds. Instead, they job him out, which makes him look like a loser. Who wants to back a loser? They have Rosa dump him with no kind of "retaliation". Now he's a weak loser. He has less matches and more cameos in catering. Now he's a weak loser who can't even get a match. Why should we like this guy??? Instead of piggybacking off of what he had going for him and building him up to be a future star, they didn't do jack shit.

Yeah, "two weeks later in Indiana no one gives a fuck about him", because WWE didn't give a fuck about him. They didn't do anything with what they had. He could have been made into a bigger deal he made himself into, and the machine just didn't do it.

And it's so subjective, this argument, I mean. That comment in that post I barely remember shitting on Tyler Black... who is now WWE Champion. He didn't have the groundswell Ryder had, let alone do it on his own outside of WWE channels, and they pushed the guy. Over time. They gave him shit to do. Angles. Feuds. He wasn't counting lights on a regular basis. And now look at him, he's a big deal. He's the champ. He's the champ because the machine got behind him, and he wasn't even the most over guy in The Shield (neither was Reigns, and we all know where he's headed, one way or another).

Simply, they had a lot less they needed to invest in the guy, and they just... didn't. This isn't "revisionist history", this is one of many dropped balls by the company itself. Ryder, Cody, Kofi, and Ziggler should have all been selling seats as legitimate stars by now. That "moster heel" push that Rusev got could have been done a couple months sooner by Big E. Cesaro should be bigger than his tag team with Kidd as he was on track for until... WWE just got bored with him. Fandango's theme song becomes an iTunes sensation and crowds are singing along with it and "Fandangoing"... and WWE doesn't decide to push this as a face turn angle idea until over two years later, after that iron has cooled down significantly (people still do it, but it was freakin' HUGE at the time). As entertaining as the joke character Curtis Axel has become is, it would have been better for everyone if they kept him as a star-in-the-making enforcer instead of meatshield bitch.

They had control over these perceptions. They could have improved the standing in the eyes of fans for of a lot of their roster. But they chose not to.

They had the power to snowball Zack's popularity into something huge. Instead, they not only met it with apathy, but acted as if it was "his fault" he wasn't made into a bigger star.

James Steele 05-17-2015 03:16 AM

Zack Ryder got a push and he blew it. He needed to hit a home run promo when he was in the ring with Daniel Bryan and CM Punk the night after they all won titles. He failed miserably.

Lock Jaw 05-17-2015 03:26 AM

Didn't he only get like two lines in the whole thing? Both of which had to be used for his catchphrases?

Tom Guycott 05-17-2015 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4632344)
Looks like Samoa Joe and WWE worked it out. Expected debut soon.

I tried (and failed) to find that one post somebody put up of the NXT debut of Joey Samoey.i thought it would be an apt and funny reply to this post. Now I'm just sad, because I had to explain it instead of being able to just find the damn post.:-\

Lock Jaw 05-17-2015 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4632868)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big thanks to the Americans at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEStateCollege?src=hash">#WWEStateCollege</a> for stealing my star of the Russian federation. Hope eBay is gud to you.</p>&mdash; Rusev (@RusevBUL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusevBUL/status/599456401778421760">May 16, 2015</a></blockquote>
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The person who stole it decided one of the first things to do when he got back from the event was to post a picture of himself wearing it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is your winner. A <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RealAmerican?src=hash">#RealAmerican</a> who is not scared to show his true colors and profession. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/thief?src=hash">#thief</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RealAmerican?src=hash">#RealAmerican</a> <a href="http://t.co/K7ncVvNS9n">pic.twitter.com/K7ncVvNS9n</a></p>&mdash; Rusev (@RusevBUL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusevBUL/status/599466888888999937">May 16, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Dark One 05-17-2015 03:42 AM

Hahaha. He made his profile private, but, uh... one problem chief.

http://i.imgur.com/4jgwma5.png

Gotta change your profile picture.

Tom Guycott 05-17-2015 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4632919)
Zack Ryder got a push and he blew it. He needed to hit a home run promo when he was in the ring with Daniel Bryan and CM Punk the night after they all won titles. He failed miserably.

In all honesty, though, that is the problem. *He* needed to hit a home run right then, and because he didn't his self made momentum gets quashed? Contrasted to, say, Jeff Hardy, who's promos while he was getting his initial WHC pushe were initially cringeworthy? Or how about the obvious shit promo Reigns is for the most part (improving, but still). Didn't stop him.

I'm reminded of a couple different things here. Is is a paraphrase from CM Punk (because I don't remember the exact quote, so I will generically use Cena as the first example) where he says PPV buyrate is down from a Cena* headlined show has all sorts of excuses, but the next PPV being down, with no Cena*, and its "the fault of Miz and R-Truth".

Second is Mick Foley's story about the "return of Cactus Jack", where basically HHH's expression sold the deal. "All I was doing was revealing a t-shirt. If he would have laughed it off, it would have been dead in the water. Instead, he sold it like he saw a ghost." If Hunter shrugged that moment off, it would have not only killed exitement with fans, but oddly somehow been Mick's fault it didn't get over?

He got blamed for being a bad promo, instead of being given room to improve (think of how far everyone's favorite photoshop, David Otunga stepped up on the mic. He went from gawdawful to going around giving school lectures on bullying). Ryder was basically given the laugh reaction to the Cactus Jack shirt.

Let's look at Ascention (yes, I'm still on topic). They were booked in NXT to be a tag team force to be reconed with. On their call up, they get the pseudo-LoD overhaul, and claim to be better than tag teams they have never (or in some cases could ever) face. The squash a few job teams, esentially getting a tag team version of Ryback's booking... but are continually bashed on commentary for doing so, as opposed to when Ryback did it, he was put over. Then, they get jumped by a bunch of "legends" teams. They also cut shit promos, even the canned ones. The promoing is their bad, but getting their nuts cut off from the booth and going from world beaters to buffoons who barely beat an "over the hill" New Age Outlaws isnt exactly how you go about establishing these guys as the future... especially when that win didn't lead anywhere. The only thing here that is the fault of Konnor and Viktor is that they aren't that good on the stick. For that, they should get a mouthpiece or more practice. But all the rest of that is not in their control. It could have, and still could be handled better.

Zack giving a shitty promo (such as it was, even) shouldn't have doomed him from the world forever, especially when people got more opportunity from worse.

Rammsteinmad 05-17-2015 05:05 AM

Totally 100% agree with everything Tom Guycott is saying here.

As for Ryder, and "that promo", yeah he literally had two lines, which was basically his catchphrase. And in all fairness, it wasn't that bad, people still "woo woo woo'd" along with him. Guy should have been made a star in 2012. And no I'm not saying multiple WWE title reigns, but the guy should have at least been used on a regular basis. People have recovered and been given more chance to recover from worse things than a shitty two-line promo. That should not have been the end of Ryder.

Rammsteinmad 05-17-2015 05:07 AM

As for the Ascension, I don't think the issue is their mic skills, it's the content of their promos. As soon as they started talking shit about being better than the LoD, Demolition etc... I just knew that was it. :nono:

Hanso Amore 05-17-2015 07:12 AM

Lol. Such butt hurt about Ryder.

He is bad. And you are bad. But you liked him only because he was counter www culture and you want to be right.

Hanso Amore 05-17-2015 07:14 AM

And also, lol as Kevin Owens as your shining example....let's see him on the main roster get over before we crown him a star. Look no further than Emma to see what being over in nxt means.

He will start over just like them all, and have to sink or swim.

Black Widow 05-17-2015 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4632475)

Where's a Genie so i can become the glass horse?

Emperor Smeat 05-17-2015 01:09 PM

http://i.imgur.com/CVBlTVL.gif

Lock Jaw 05-17-2015 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ lee's (Post 4632958)
Where's a Genie so i can become the glass horse?

Yo, gurl, I'm a genie, so why don't you come over here and rub my lamp?

Lock Jaw 05-17-2015 01:12 PM

Apologies to all females everywhere for the above post, and to the TPWW Universe in general for the bad post. It will never happen again.

Emperor Smeat 05-17-2015 05:19 PM

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1431891445353.gif

Were the tables meant to break since I can't think of another way that was meant to end well for anyone involved.

Droford 05-17-2015 06:51 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Haha! &quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/MLB">@MLB</a>: World Heavyweight Champion <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERollins">@WWERollins</a> mean muggin’ with <a href="https://twitter.com/SimplyAJ10">@SimplyAJ10</a>. <a href="http://t.co/3F6NIF65oT">pic.twitter.com/3F6NIF65oT</a>&quot;</p>&mdash; Sports With Coleman (@sportswcoleman) <a href="https://twitter.com/sportswcoleman/status/600000368064536576">May 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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SlickyTrickyDamon 05-17-2015 07:02 PM

Rollins: Who'd you beat to be World Champion?

Dark One 05-17-2015 07:39 PM

For those of you not in the Payback thread:

Return of the Stone Cold Podcast on June 1st with Paul Heyman.

Oh sweet jesus.

Droford 05-17-2015 07:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/WWECesaro">@WWECesaro</a> sup? How's your snatch?</p>&mdash; #ec3forCHAMP (@EthanCarterTNA) <a href="https://twitter.com/EthanCarterTNA/status/599994443970846720">May 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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In reference to this pic

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFKdjRvVAAAVVle.jpg

Rammsteinmad 05-17-2015 08:28 PM

I wanna see this:

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-con...1402764708.jpg

Seth82 05-18-2015 10:15 AM

https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...d4&oe=55C056B2

Emperor Smeat 05-18-2015 01:52 PM

http://i.imgur.com/nc9SaHK.gif

Dark One 05-18-2015 06:27 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the three year I wrestled for NJPW in Japan I was Load and not Lord.I'll let you figure it out. <a href="http://t.co/o1tYL7Js42">pic.twitter.com/o1tYL7Js42</a></p>&mdash; William Regal (@RealKingRegal) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKingRegal/status/598844101753110529">May 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat 05-18-2015 07:02 PM

Quote:

"Ahhh no...ahhh I give up! Next time we will crush you! I give up! Stop! I told you! I'll crush you Cena! Damn your old mother, Cena! I will crush you! That's enough, I told you."
Supposedly a translation of what Rusev was saying last night before Lana quit for him.

Would have been better if Rusev was just trash talking Cena the whole time and not actually quitting. Lana could still quit for him because she's worried about his well being.

Dark One 05-18-2015 07:04 PM

I think it might be a bigger heel move to actually quit and lie about it and throw Lana under the bus.

#1-norm-fan 05-18-2015 08:00 PM

That's a good heel move for a conniving, sneaky, chicken shit heel. Not so much for a brute like Rusev is supposed to be.

#1-norm-fan 05-18-2015 08:01 PM

lol @ "Damn your old mother" though.

Emperor Smeat 05-18-2015 09:56 PM

:-\ Hall with drinking problems again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMZ
WWE Legend Scott Hall
BOOTED FROM WRESTLING EVENT
... Allegedly Hammered, Again
5/18/2015 2:46 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

WWE Hall of Famer Scott Hall was physically escorted out of a wrestling event in NJ this weekend ... after promoters say the recovering substance abuser was way too hammered to do his job.

Hall has battled drug and alcohol issues for years ... but had teamed up with some other wrestling legends in recent years in a public effort to clean himself up.

Which is why the people at the Skate and Surf Music Festival in Asbury Park, NJ were so disappointed Saturday when Hall appeared to be wasted ... hours before he was supposed to host a meet and greet with fans.

According to our sources, Hall was given multiple chances to sober up ... but never did. Organizers told Hall to leave ... but he refused, demanding to be paid.

Eventually, security stepped in and escorted Hall off the property.

The event promoter, Ricky Otazu, tells TMZ Sports, "The event was too well run for us to make a fool of ourselves by allowing him to appear. We will no longer be associated with him until he gets his life in order."

Hall was arrested in 2012 for allegedly choking his girlfriend during a drunken rage and was sentenced to 10 days behind bars for a 2010 DUI arrest.

We made several efforts to reach Hall for comment -- and even called his close friends and family members -- but so far, no word from the wrestling star.


Black Widow 05-18-2015 11:24 PM

https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...72&oe=55FE86D5

Savio 05-18-2015 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4632624)
As a kid, I was genuinely afraid of IRS. As an adult, I can't say the same about Bray Wyatt.

As an adult I'm afraid of the IRS

Savio 05-19-2015 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4632926)
In all honesty, though, that is the problem. *He* needed to hit a home run right then, and because he didn't his self made momentum gets quashed? Contrasted to, say, Jeff Hardy, who's promos while he was getting his initial WHC pushe were initially cringeworthy? Or how about the obvious shit promo Reigns is for the most part (improving, but still). Didn't stop him.

I'm reminded of a couple different things here. Is is a paraphrase from CM Punk (because I don't remember the exact quote, so I will generically use Cena as the first example) where he says PPV buyrate is down from a Cena* headlined show has all sorts of excuses, but the next PPV being down, with no Cena*, and its "the fault of Miz and R-Truth".

Second is Mick Foley's story about the "return of Cactus Jack", where basically HHH's expression sold the deal. "All I was doing was revealing a t-shirt. If he would have laughed it off, it would have been dead in the water. Instead, he sold it like he saw a ghost." If Hunter shrugged that moment off, it would have not only killed exitement with fans, but oddly somehow been Mick's fault it didn't get over?

He got blamed for being a bad promo, instead of being given room to improve (think of how far everyone's favorite photoshop, David Otunga stepped up on the mic. He went from gawdawful to going around giving school lectures on bullying). Ryder was basically given the laugh reaction to the Cactus Jack shirt.

Let's look at Ascention (yes, I'm still on topic). They were booked in NXT to be a tag team force to be reconed with. On their call up, they get the pseudo-LoD overhaul, and claim to be better than tag teams they have never (or in some cases could ever) face. The squash a few job teams, esentially getting a tag team version of Ryback's booking... but are continually bashed on commentary for doing so, as opposed to when Ryback did it, he was put over. Then, they get jumped by a bunch of "legends" teams. They also cut shit promos, even the canned ones. The promoing is their bad, but getting their nuts cut off from the booth and going from world beaters to buffoons who barely beat an "over the hill" New Age Outlaws isnt exactly how you go about establishing these guys as the future... especially when that win didn't lead anywhere. The only thing here that is the fault of Konnor and Viktor is that they aren't that good on the stick. For that, they should get a mouthpiece or more practice. But all the rest of that is not in their control. It could have, and still could be handled better.

Zack giving a shitty promo (such as it was, even) shouldn't have doomed him from the world forever, especially when people got more opportunity from worse.

Yeah but this is like 8 mile where future was like "My boy eminem is a great rapper" and the black people were like "nah, we don't believe you" and then future said "Nah he'll show you, you'll see" and then eminem choked and the movie ended because the black people never gave him another chance.

:shifty:

Rammsteinmad 05-19-2015 07:45 AM

I bet nobody remembers this.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AYpv9DRvPCo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

drave 05-19-2015 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4634177)
:-\ Hall with drinking problems again.

Guess that HOF Appearance check finally arrived.

Emperor Smeat 05-19-2015 03:01 PM

http://i.imgur.com/1Jc7uty.gif

Vastardikai 05-19-2015 08:19 PM

*looks at today's date*

Aw... shit...

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Emperor Smeat 05-19-2015 08:46 PM

Sheets sponsored by Awkward Rope Holding 101 class with Prof. Ziggler:
http://38.media.tumblr.com/6ea96edd2...fo1_r1_400.gif

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWE
WWE today announced that Matt Bloom has been promoted to Head Coach of WWE’s developmental system, NXT, and Sara Amato has been promoted to NXT’s Assistant Head Coach. Bloom previously held the position of Interim Head Coach and Amato was previously an Assistant Coach.

Bloom, a former WWE Superstar and Intercontinental Champion, made his WWE debut in 1999 as Prince Albert. After an eight-year stint in Japan, Bloom returned to WWE in 2012 as WWE Superstar Tensai. Bloom retired from in-ring action in 2014 and was named an NXT Assistant Coach, working at the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, Fla., where he also spent time as a color commentator for NXT programming on WWE Network. He was named NXT’s Interim Head Coach in March 2015.

Amato joined WWE in 2012 as Sara Del Rey after spending more than a decade working on the independent circuit. Since then, she has been responsible for training, creating and developing some of the most athletic, charismatic and confident Divas, including current WWE Divas Paige, Summer Rae and Emma, as well as NXT Divas Charlotte, Sasha Banks, Bayley, Alexa Bliss, Becky Lynch and Carmella. In addition to coaching at the WWE Performance Center, Amato will also work with WWE Superstars and Divas on the main roster as both a producer and agent.

Quote:

The Rock was recently interviewed by SI.com to promote his upcoming film San Andreas. He revealed that he is strongly considering a return to the ring at AT&T Stadium, in front of more than 100,000 fans, in Texas for WrestleMania 32.

“Myself, Vince, Triple H have talked about creating something that is amazing,” said Johnson. “Any time for me, going back into the WWE, especially if it’s a match – and these guys know this because of the open dialogue between me and Triple H – the question is, can we create, in terms of a promotional scale for the fans, something better than what we did in Miami and back-to-back in New York with John Cena? Can we put together something that’s different but equally, if not more, exciting? So there’s a lot of elements involved that we continue to talk about and chop up. That’s the coolest part about the relationship I have with the McMahons, including Triple H.”
Part of a longer interview Sports Illustrated had with The Rock: http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015...32-deflategate

Quote:

Originally Posted by F4W
Samoa Joe has lengthened the time he will take independent bookings through August. We had gotten word earlier in the week Joe was looking at getting dates in both July and August after first not taking them. He has just been announced for a major show on 8/1 for Northeast Wrestling at Dutchess Stadium in Wappingers Falls, NY, as well as a date the next night

Quote:

  • Triple H apologizes for his voice and says "with a nose like mine, changing allergy zones three times" is a bad thing.
  • HHH puts over Charlotte and Sasha Banks headlining an NXT live event last week. He wants them to change the perception of what women do in the industry.
  • The NXT tours will continue. He's looking at festival touring and some international shows as well. He wants NXT to be a full brand by next year.
  • HHH thanked ESPN and Jeremy Schapp. He said he hopes that they can work together more, or produce more of those for the Network.
  • Triple H wants NXT on the road 3 days a week by 2016. He wants NXT to have a two-tour function eventually. He doesn't want to lose the homegrown fans in Flordia, either.
  • While NXT is a third brand, it's still there to get people ready for the main roster, Triple H says. He says the best problem he can have is Vince calling him in the middle of a hot angle and asking for that star.
  • Triple H says that there are several talents in NXT ready for the main roster, but there aren't spots for them, or else they'd be there.
  • Triple H says he likes Ring of Honor and Dragon Gate. He says he's not trying to make NXT a direct competition to them. He wants to make the best roster that he can. He thinks if NXT's business grows, so will RoH's. He said he'd love to help support ROH and grow.
  • He says there are plenty of talents that won't make it on the main roster, and gimmicks that won't work on the main roster.

Some highlights from a recent NXT media call Triple H usually does going into an NXT special. http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircl...xt_media_call/

Quote:

Former NWA Heavyweight Champion and Ring Of Honor booker Adam Pearce has officially signed with World Wrestling Entertainment.

Pearce is officially joining WWE under the role of a full-time coach and “producer,” according to a new PWInsider.com report.
Quote:

Originally Posted by wrestlingnewsworld.com
Hour one – 4,001,000 viewers
Hour two – 4,001,000 viewers
Hour three – 3,955,000 viewers

RAW's ratings and viewership went up this week. Biggest positives ended up being around 300,000 more people watched compared to last week, very small hourly drops, and strong 8pm hour.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Coming October 2015! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE2K16?src=hash">#WWE2K16</a> <a href="http://t.co/AmebGW9qr6">pic.twitter.com/AmebGW9qr6</a></p>&mdash; WWE 2K (@WWEgames) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEgames/status/600396795345272832">May 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Arriving on October 27th for the PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, and Xbox One. Like with WWE 2k15, PC version arrives at a later date.


Some other sheet news includes:

Droford 05-19-2015 09:37 PM

Lol at Chinlock City chants for Owens, that's Taylor made for Orton


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