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KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:54 AM

I really wouldn't mind seeing Chavo vs. MVP at the Smackdown tapings.

And then maybe Punk vs. Tommy Dreamer on ECW tonight.

Londoner 06-26-2007 10:54 AM

I feel sorry for ECW, cause i dunno what they're gonna do now.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 10:56 AM

I'm gonna be completely honest, I'm definitely going to watch tonight but as a fan and a human being I know I'm gonna have a hard time enjoying wrestling or thinking about anything else pertaining to it while watching it for a long time, if not always... it's truly a much different situation than Eddie or Owen...

Dorkchop 06-26-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CSL
Vince made the decision to run Smackdown and ECW tapings tonight without any angles or backstage storylines. The show will consist of straight wrestling matches and like last night, the original shows were scrapped. The attempt to put together a show was difficult because the crew and creative staff were said to be both emotionally and physically wrecked after yesterday.

That's a really great idea. It'll be a nice little change for once.... to see just matches.

James Steele 06-26-2007 10:56 AM

Dean Malenko had me speechless. I don't know how he stayed to strong through his part.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesSteele
JBL and Tazz got me sniffling.

I noticed also when Eddie died, that JBL more than anyone else looks like a child when he's upset. Some guys look confused or scared, and some look like they're trying to keep from falling apart; JBL looks like a scared little boy who wants a hug from his mommy to make it better (and that is not meant as a shot at him either.)

Innovator 06-26-2007 10:58 AM

Yeah I was surprised Dean held together

CSL 06-26-2007 10:58 AM

<font color=white>All Benoit merchandise has been removed from WWE.com. As his name in the WMXX match listing. Considering WWE 'has more information' but was asked not to release it by the police, seems to confirm Benoit is guilty.</font>

<font color=white>Add to that Summerslam 2004. Also everything apart from the main story has now gone from the WWE homepage too.</font>

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TL
I feel sorry for ECW, cause i dunno what they're gonna do now.

Try to continue on just like the Smackdown and Raw rosters?

Jordan 06-26-2007 10:58 AM

Wrestlers are fucked up, it hard life style, and I guess it doesn't attract savory characters like we want it too.

Londoner 06-26-2007 10:59 AM

Kings speech last night had me going come tot hink of it, talking about appreciating life more/taking nothing for granted and sending love to his family.

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 11:00 AM

Someone on another site had a real classy picture of the old "Victim of the Crossface" shirt with an image of Nacy on the front.

Londoner 06-26-2007 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
Try to continue on just like the Smackdown and Raw rosters?


Yeah but there feels like there's a huge blackhole that's been opened in ECW even tho Benoit was there for one show, he was going to be a huge part of it.

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 11:01 AM

I'm glad they're giving the crew a break from reworking the storylines. I don't know what the hell to think about this whole situation still. It looks more and more like he did it, I'll wait on final judgement until they release everything from their investigation. I hope, if he did it, it was a mental health issue and was not himself. I DON'T however, consider drug abuse (i.e. roids) to be a mental health issue that can redeem him. Drug abuse is SELF INFLICTED. It would have to be something he had no control over to substantiate anything.

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 11:02 AM

But it sounds like he just snapped in the heat of the moment...

Jeritron 06-26-2007 11:03 AM

some people are unreal. I'm happy to have the TPWW community for all of this. Most people dont understand or care on the level we do. Again, I stress that we didn't know the people involved or directly effected, but it hits closer to us than most.
Everyone here seems to be on the same page as me, and very respectful. You guys are legit great.

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TL
Yeah but there feels like there's a huge blackhole that's been opened in ECW even tho Benoit was there for one show, he was going to be a huge part of it.

But regardless Benoit had an impact on ALL of the wrestlers.

BigDaddyCool 06-26-2007 11:06 AM

During the interviews with Chavo and Dean last night, did any one get the feeling they knew more than they were letting on?

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 11:06 AM

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but if steroids are involved, aside from the obvious destruction of his family, he has also dealt a swift blow to professional wrestling in general. In the US right now steroid investigations are running rampant through sports, and nobody has killed anybody because of it. NOW, you've got this kind of rogue-sport entertainment company that has no respect from the mass media anyway with a worker who snapped and killed his family under the influence of steriods. This could potentially destroy the WWE and professional wrestling altogether. At the very least it is going to have it severely punished and diminished, and set back a number of years.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 11:06 AM

CNN report was fucked up. The story seems to be picking up steam in terms of media attention...

RP 06-26-2007 11:07 AM

I love Benoit, but i have no respect for him if he killed his wife and kid. But if he did it with the Crippler Crossface...i dunno. I'd have to think about it.

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
During the interviews with Chavo and Dean last night, did any one get the feeling they knew more than they were letting on?

Regal got me more than anybody. I dont remember his quote exactly but he was saying something like "I'm supposed to come out here and tell you what a wonderful guy Chris was. But, I can't really do that right now. All I can see is he was a hard worker, the hardest worker in this business. I can't say anything else". Malenko seemed to focus on his in-ring life rather than his personal life too.

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 11:09 AM

Chavo too, Chavo seemed that he knew what had happened, but was hoping beyond hope it wasn't true with how much he emphasized family, etc.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but if steroids are involved, aside from the obvious destruction of his family, he has also dealt a swift blow to professional wrestling in general. In the US right now steroid investigations are running rampant through sports, and nobody has killed anybody because of it. NOW, you've got this kind of rogue-sport entertainment company that has no respect from the mass media anyway with a worker who snapped and killed his family under the influence of steriods. This could potentially destroy the WWE and professional wrestling altogether. At the very least it is going to have it severely punished and diminished, and set back a number of years.

On a related, and unimportant note, this will probably effect the creative direction. I wouldn't be suprised to see larger "roided out" wrestlers de-emphasized or depushed in favor of a more natural look. Similar to what they went to with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels after the steroid scandal of the early 90s, before which names like Hogan, Macho Man and Ultimate Warrior were the image the product pushed.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
During the interviews with Chavo and Dean last night, did any one get the feeling they knew more than they were letting on?

Yeah, it goes with the whole "WWE.com has more information but can't release it now" deal. I think they knew then what we are being told now, in tiny pieces, and that it was hard for them to seperate what they should and shouldn't say. Austin, Stephanie, and Edge didn't have that same quality, and HHH only sort of did.

Londoner 06-26-2007 11:11 AM

Just saw an extended ssnews report,apparently he was popular around ssnews to, atleast they appreciate who he was.

Jeritron 06-26-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Regal got me more than anybody. I dont remember his quote exactly but he was saying something like "I'm supposed to come out here and tell you what a wonderful guy Chris was. But, I can't really do that right now. All I can see is he was a hard worker, the hardest worker in this business. I can't say anything else". Malenko seemed to focus on his in-ring life rather than his personal life too.

Jesus. I missed that...That's heavy as hell, but I can't say he's wrong. To be honest, thats one of the many things I have been thinking. He's right...

Lara Emily 06-26-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Chavo too, Chavo seemed that he knew what had happened, but was hoping beyond hope it wasn't true with how much he emphasized family, etc.

Definitely got that feeling with Chavo, I think he evem said Chris whatever happened or something like that

BigDaddyCool 06-26-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Regal got me more than anybody. I dont remember his quote exactly but he was saying something like "I'm supposed to come out here and tell you what a wonderful guy Chris was. But, I can't really do that right now. All I can see is he was a hard worker, the hardest worker in this business. I can't say anything else".

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

That and people weren't crying the way they did with Eddie and Owen. There everyone was openly weeping and couldn't keep things together. Here, they were visably shaken, and sadden...but it wasn't the same.

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron
On a related, and unimportant note, this will probably effect the creative direction. I wouldn't be suprised to see larger "roided out" wrestlers de-emphasized or depushed in favor of a more natural look. Similar to what they went to with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels after the steroid scandal of the early 90s, before which names like Hogan, Macho Man and Ultimate Warrior were the image the product pushed.

Well, if the effect is limited to that then maybe Chris did us a favor. But I am really scared for professional wrestling right now with the state of steroids in sports in America.

TerranRich 06-26-2007 11:13 AM

Jeritron, you may be right about that. It might be good in a way to de-emphasize the roided workers.

Apparently Cena doesn't do steroids, so unfortunately he'd still be in the ME scene.

Sorry, had to make a joke to lighten the mood a little. :) No disrespect intended.

CSL 06-26-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Regal got me more than anybody. I dont remember his quote exactly but he was saying something like "I'm supposed to come out here and tell you what a wonderful guy Chris was. But, I can't really do that right now. All I can see is he was a hard worker, the hardest worker in this business. I can't say anything else". Malenko seemed to focus on his in-ring life rather than his personal life too.

<font color=white>I missed Regal's speech. That's pretty bad.

I noticed how much Malenko mentioned his in ring stuff. Didn't really think much into it :-\

Chavo was a full on about how great he was though, in ring and out so fuck knows.</font>

KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 11:14 AM

John Cena better get off the juice and QUICK.

Dave Youell 06-26-2007 11:14 AM

I haven’t seen the show yet, but I’m a bit confused about why they had CM Punk talk about him, but didn’t try to get some words from someone like Rey

No disrespect to Punk or anything, but they had only been on the same show for 2 weeks, Rey had known him for 15 years

Impeccable 06-26-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
Regal got me more than anybody. I dont remember his quote exactly but he was saying something like "I'm supposed to come out here and tell you what a wonderful guy Chris was. But, I can't really do that right now. All I can see is he was a hard worker, the hardest worker in this business. I can't say anything else". Malenko seemed to focus on his in-ring life rather than his personal life too.

That's the one that made me think "There's something not quite right here.".

Jeritron 06-26-2007 11:15 AM

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any links to the interviews, or just some run downs of the Chavo, Malenko, Edge and HHH interviews...I'd appreciate it.
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KingofOldSchool 06-26-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TerranRich

Apparently Cena doesn't do steroids

Are you SURE about that?

Mercury Bullet 06-26-2007 11:15 AM

I totally didn't think about the possibility of murder-suicide until I heard Regal's speech. And I thought, "Jesus, I hope he didn't kill his family. He (regal) wouldn't even talk about his character."

RP 06-26-2007 11:15 AM

This is bizzare that all of a sudden the guy i've rooted for, for years is not such a great guy after all. There has to be more to this story. There has to be something that the wrestlers were aware of that built to this moment. This didnt just happen. I truely doubt this was roid rage. Judging by some of the comments last night like Regals. It seems to me that maybe Benoit wasnt a good guy and everyone around him knew it but we didnt. Who knows. This is nuts. I've actually gotten over the initial shock of my favorite wrestler being dead and now i'm really curious what the fuck happend and what led to this.

Theo Dious 06-26-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Youell
I haven’t seen the show yet, but I’m a bit confused about why they had CM Punk talk about him, but didn’t try to get some words from someone like Rey

Rey might not have wanted to. Punk might have requested it, since like he said, he felt bad about what happened Sunday.

God, I feel sorry for Nitro right now. He just became a World Champion on the back of this horrifying turn of events. How shitty must that feel.


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