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Jordan 02-21-2022 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5525954)
I think the complaints are less about legacy, and more about not wanting to see old men sloppily fumble around the ring, when they have young, capable athletes that can go.

Obviously spectacle is a big part of wrestling, but at some point, if the wrestling itself is bad enough, the spectacle can't make up for it.

I think that last years Mania card was a good attempt at trying to have a little of everything each night, though one of the nights was a lot better than the other.

Having the legend returns bout is standard for Mania so I don't think having Austin or Taker, Cena or Triple H, Booker T or Shawn Michaels, whoever they use, it's for the better of the whole show in one way or another.

I feel like each year we get to Mania all of us say "I wish Money in the Bank was available for Mania"... I say it again. I get the stadium event though that's better but damn I miss having that option for Mania.

Bad News Gertner 02-21-2022 06:31 PM

Kayfabe Commentaries just released the 92-93 ECW Timeline on YouTube. It's very interesting if you want to learn about the birth of ECW


Jordan 02-21-2022 08:55 PM

I can't wait to see what The Truth Social's wrestling community becomes.

Jordan 02-21-2022 08:56 PM

Maybe Control Your Narrative will air live on Truth Social.

Evil Vito 02-21-2022 09:09 PM

I’ll root for Control Your Narrative to succeed because more places for guys to work is always a good thing.

But I don’t care at all about EC3, Braun Stroman, and Killer Kross.

So hey, if it becomes a containment unit for guys I don’t care about to make a living outside of promotions I actually want to watch, that’s a good thing.

xrodmuc316 02-21-2022 09:10 PM

LOL why does Graves and Mella have a youtube show now???

Bad News Gertner 02-21-2022 09:11 PM

Because they fuckin

Bad News Gertner 02-21-2022 10:06 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Nobody:<br>Blitzkrieg: <a href="https://t.co/BuTfUdgw2v">pic.twitter.com/BuTfUdgw2v</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1495937985757462531?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan 02-21-2022 10:41 PM

Blitzkrieg was really cool. I remember a few crazy botches but overall, pretty radical for his time.

Mr. Nerfect 02-22-2022 02:48 AM

Was thinking today that CYN might hire Johnny Curtis, which primes them to take over the #2 spot in wrestling.

Tom Guycott 02-22-2022 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5526034)
Was thinking today that CYN might hire Johnny Curtis, which primes them to take over the #2 spot in wrestling.

Hell, if that's the only qualifier, then NWA should be acknoledged as #2, since he's there.

Then again, they have Austin Aries as well, which prob'ly ranks them back down when he inevitably gets pissy and quits because he isn't booked to be the world beater.

Mr. Nerfect 02-22-2022 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5526038)
Hell, if that's the only qualifier, then NWA should be acknoledged as #2, since he's there.

Then again, they have Austin Aries as well, which prob'ly ranks them back down when he inevitably gets pissy and quits because he isn't booked to be the world beater.

NWA is the current #2.

Bad News Gertner 02-22-2022 08:41 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Desperados (Dutch Mantell, Black Bart, &amp; Deadeye Dick aka Randy Colley) were a wacky cowboy trio who came to WCW to meet Stan Hansen.<br><br>Here’s a vignette that aired, styled as an old Western comedy film. <a href="https://t.co/54t7in0xAr">pic.twitter.com/54t7in0xAr</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1496112742004142081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wehttam 02-22-2022 04:28 PM

dave meltzer has such a huge nose

Tom Guycott 02-23-2022 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5525952)
Yeah that is weird WWE hasnt hyped that fact at all. Maybe this close to Mania they dont want to draw focus?

Or, in a move more typical of WWE they didn't even notice. Like, after Wrestlemania, someone will look at a format and go "Wait, "show #15xx?" You mean we already did the 1500th RAW? When was that??"

Who knows? Nerf may be right and they consciously decided not to draw attention away from the bigger story(-ies) currently unfolding. However sometimes they get too much of the benefit of the doubt about always knowing what they're doing. I'd be more willing to bet it was a thing that slipped through the cracks unnoticed much like the beginnings of Undertaker's streak than some actual decision to not acknoledge the milestone... especially considering everyone going apeshit about the date being 2/22/22 for weddings and shopping sales and such.

xrodmuc316 02-23-2022 11:51 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meltzer making shit up again. Who would have thought it?<br><br>The flamethrower is back on for the return of Eric Fires Back at <a href="https://t.co/NGhpdGVUFd">https://t.co/NGhpdGVUFd</a> <a href="https://t.co/5rCfNt5wn0">pic.twitter.com/5rCfNt5wn0</a></p>&mdash; Eric Bischoff (@EBischoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/EBischoff/status/1489030933688856578?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sepholio 02-23-2022 12:53 PM

Mucker Fother lmao

Mr. Nerfect 02-23-2022 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5526504)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meltzer making shit up again. Who would have thought it?<br><br>The flamethrower is back on for the return of Eric Fires Back at <a href="https://t.co/NGhpdGVUFd">https://t.co/NGhpdGVUFd</a> <a href="https://t.co/5rCfNt5wn0">pic.twitter.com/5rCfNt5wn0</a></p>&mdash; Eric Bischoff (@EBischoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/EBischoff/status/1489030933688856578?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Used to have no time for Bischoff (outside being a performer), but he’s been right on the money with a lot of the things he’s said. Especially when it comes to his understanding of how television works vs. Dave Meltzer being utterly confused by why WWE would load up a developmental show for SyFy and why a show worth $50 million to USA Network or whatever, that likely generates more profit than Dynamite, isn’t going balls to the wall for rAtInGs in 2022.

All the information is out there, and a lot of it is common sense, but Dave’s gotten push the narrative that those numbers are important so he’s always got something to write about when things get quiet.

XL 02-23-2022 02:21 PM

Hmmmm. Bad take.

Mr. Nerfect 02-23-2022 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5526589)
Hmmmm. Bad take.

Nope, I am 100% correct on this.

Bad News Gertner 02-23-2022 08:38 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">La Parka’s double-jump Arabian press is a dope move for such a big dude. <a href="https://t.co/eAButAKbyR">pic.twitter.com/eAButAKbyR</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1496641893731651586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

fundiddle 02-23-2022 10:31 PM

i don't think that counts as a double-jump, but cool as fuck it is

Mr. Nerfect 02-24-2022 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fundiddle (Post 5526871)
i don't think that counts as a double-jump, but cool as fuck it is

One is the jump to the top rope, the second is coming off the top rope.

Fignuts 02-24-2022 08:12 AM

Thats not a jump.

It's stylishly falling off something.

Bad News Gertner 02-24-2022 08:57 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There must be no scarier sight than Sid Vicious running at you with his giant arm extended. <a href="https://t.co/0KBxcfCEcu">pic.twitter.com/0KBxcfCEcu</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1496686382621802496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

drave 02-24-2022 09:52 AM

God damn. Just from the camera angle that shit looked intimidating. Sid is amazing.

BigCrippyZ 02-24-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5526751)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">La Parka’s double-jump Arabian press is a dope move for such a big dude. <a href="https://t.co/eAButAKbyR">pic.twitter.com/eAButAKbyR</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1496641893731651586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Loved when WCW had La Parka, Psicosis, Ultimo, Rey, Jericho, Eddie, Malenko, Juvi, and Blitzkrieg. Crazy how talented that group was overall at the time, and the matches and lucha style and masks/gear certainly made things cool/different than most of the wrestling I'd seen prior on TV up to that point.

Bad News Gertner 02-24-2022 10:47 AM

WCW missed a massive opportunity selling those masks.

fundiddle 02-24-2022 11:30 AM

i always thought super calo looked like a fucking idiot wrestling in a hat and sunglasses, until now when i just remembered it and have decided he was probably the coolest lucha guy they had

Mr. Nerfect 02-24-2022 12:20 PM

I fucking loved Ultimo Dragon.

BigCrippyZ 02-24-2022 12:33 PM

Spent I don't know how many countless hours playing as Ultimo or Rey in WCW vs NWO World Tour and La Parka and Psychosis in the Revenge sequel.

Sepholio 02-24-2022 12:56 PM

Ha, same. I used Ultimo a lot the first game and Psicosis during the second.

Fignuts 02-24-2022 01:05 PM

Ultimo still looks and performs great, despite his age.

Fignuts 02-24-2022 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fundiddle (Post 5527002)
i always thought super calo looked like a fucking idiot wrestling in a hat and sunglasses, until now when i just remembered it and have decided he was probably the coolest lucha guy they had

I mean, I appreciate his work more now, but he still looks like an idiot.

slik 02-24-2022 04:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FOXSports</a> has learned <a href="https://twitter.com/RondaRousey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RondaRousey</a> will challenge <a href="https://twitter.com/MsCharlotteWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MsCharlotteWWE</a> for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SmackDown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SmackDown</a> Women’s title on Night 1 of <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleMania?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WrestleMania</a>. <a href="https://t.co/Ag62OdlAvI">https://t.co/Ag62OdlAvI</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1496951093330276371?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 02-24-2022 11:13 PM

oh my

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ref totally blew the finish in the ROH World Title match at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Terminus?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Terminus</a>. Gresham thinks maybe they should run it back after he &amp; Santana had an amazing match. You can tell both were pissed. <a href="https://t.co/6v8rJL1Nyu">pic.twitter.com/6v8rJL1Nyu</a></p>&mdash; Tim Jarrell of PWUnlimited (@TimmyBuddy) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimmyBuddy/status/1497060274674700289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner 02-24-2022 11:36 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This looks like a monster truck landing on cars. <a href="https://t.co/DiUDLEv68U">pic.twitter.com/DiUDLEv68U</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1497044965439856641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Triple A 02-25-2022 09:14 PM

They should just end the brand split after WM now that they released like 150 wrestlers...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In multiple places, <a href="https://t.co/07CGuv8Adg">https://t.co/07CGuv8Adg</a> now lists Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 38 as being a &quot;championship unification&quot; match. <a href="https://t.co/DwSvLMe4vf">pic.twitter.com/DwSvLMe4vf</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling Observer (@WONF4W) <a href="https://twitter.com/WONF4W/status/1497359461186473985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan 02-25-2022 09:25 PM

Yeah it seems that is what they are doing. Very smart move IMO. I have always hated the split rosters gimmick. Let's go!

Lock Jaw 02-25-2022 09:29 PM

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