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Also, again, the source is part of the problem. This is exactly a joke Dave would have buried someone else over. But since it's him saying it, he thought it would go over great. A five star joke. Six if he had said it in the Tokyo Dome. |
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you have freedom of association and meltzer also has the freedom to be wrong and he has the freedom to be a hypocrite too. its no small coincidence that the rise of poor mental health and the rise of comedy police are perfectly parallel. its a human coping skill that we have evolved over millenia that we have only recently decided should be done away with and we're another millenia away from having a replacement for it and it comes with a body count.
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The temp was not right for Charlotte's plastic. |
This whole Meltzer thing is like if a white guy made a joke about black people loving watermelon and then a black guy was like “:roll: Don’t forget fried chicken.”
And then people became outraged… at the black guy. |
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And that's how they reinvent their product, and subscriptions.
Next, it'll be how many subscribers leave one for the other. And sadly, it'll be the most interesting thing to happen in all of professional wrestling. |
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He wasn't even joking about the Holocaust. It's just faux outrage from people who hate Meltzer.
"The WWE are holding an event in a country that murders their own people and has committed war crimes and atrocities because apparently a place that committed war crimes and atrocities where people were murdered wasn't available. How is that in any way shape or form joking or belittling the Holocaust. |
that post has no connection to the holocaust even in passing
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The problem is Meltzer was not actually trying to be funny, he was trying to bury WWE. He is so far down that path it clouds his judgment. It is more important to make WWE look bad then be mindful of what comes out of his mouth, to the point where his warped perspective is WWE and the Holocaust are the same level of bad. He did not even realize how wrong that was until outside criticism came, then he issued a half hearted apology to save face. The fact that he said he had family members killed there so it is ok that he said it is further proof that he does not understand why what he said is offensive to other people.
And no it is just not Bruce Pritchard people playing gotcha, it was Jewish Leaders and Organizations that condemned him using THAT to pop his listeners, making them also think that is alright to say. |
Meltzer probably thought he could get away with it because he’s Jewish. It’s far from the most tasteless thing anyone has ever said or done, but people are getting fed up with the guy’s shit. So when he makes a comment about women having fake tits (something I defended him for), and a quip using the holocaust to try and prop up a complete non-point (something l’m not because fuck this guy), people are going to call him out for it.
It’s aim and tone. Everybody and their mothers can make the joke about a show called “Elimination Chamber” in Saudi Arabia. Dave tripping over his feet to make that joke and link it to Nazi Germany has got a few people going “Dude…” I mean, common sense would dictate that the show isn’t going to be called that (and likely never was). Because of stuff like this, funnily enough. |
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Just a long-winded way of saying that I think there was definitely anti-Meltzer sentiments before Prichard, but that’s obviously been a big story in the development of Meltzer’s relationship with the internet crowds. |
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The setup was WWE having a show called “Elimination Chamber” in Saudi Arabia. Meltzer’s joke was a response to that.
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LOL that's a bit of a stretch and is nowhere near the same thing as what you presented. Comparing WWE having a PPV for the last 20 years called Elimination Chamber to a white guy joking about black people loving watermelon? Are you going for an Xrod gimmick now? Is that what this is?
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Now, you can argue whether people SHOULD be offended by that. But to find offense in the joke made by a Jew in response to it is some insane misplaced outrage. |
And what’s this about an “xrod gimmick”!?! You can insult me all you want but if you do it by implying that xrod is anything but a man with a very solid grasp of logic then I’ll have to object!
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Finally had to go look up what this Tweet was..... was gonna write a response, but writing it I realized that I don't actually care, so abandoning the post.
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Wow! Can't believe that no good Tony Khan tweeted in support of Meltzer :nono:
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I’m obligated by my own rule and a vow to TPWW to pretend that this is a smart observation. So… This is me doing that. |
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It may not be a gas chamber but lets not be so blind as to pretend Saudi doesn't have an atrociously vile track record. |
I wonder if maybe WWE changed the EC name in Germany (I think they changed it in 2009, give or take a year) because of the way Germany is continually tightening the laws there around speech regarding the holocaust/Nazis? I believe they were doing a lot of modification to those laws around then doing with how to handle the subject when it was broached by media or on social media. Maybe the figured they would just change it to avoid any potential legal trouble down the line.
Haven't they changed it more than once since then? I think they use "No Escape" now. But I think there was another name for a few years in there somewhere. |
Serious psa though: If any of you ever go to Germany it is best not to even talk about the holocaust or Nazis. Like if you are on a tour or in a museum or something I imagine it's ok. But otherwise don't even risk it. You can find yourself in trouble in a hurry from the stories I've heard from guys I know who were stationed over there. One of my good friends got in some shit when he was off post drunk one night and made a dumb holocaust joke and the wrong person heard it.
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I absolutely understand that atrocities have been committed by SA. That itself is of course worthy of criticism. I need to state that clearly so we don't give anybody here the chance to miss the actual point.
The issue is Meltzer connecting the dots to Auschwitz because of "Chamber". The issue is Meltzer needing so badly to criticize WWE that he did not even consider that bastardizing the Holocaust to take a dig was not going to be received well. |
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I am unaware of Saudi Arabia murdering millions of people in a gas chamber. That is the comparison Meltzer made. Now he was probably having an issue with the Elimination part of the title, but that is not the comparison he made, and he was rightly criticized. Do not pick one sentence and try to represent it like I did not explain further, you are better than that. |
We know what this all comes down to.
MELTZER BAD |
I heard Meltzer sneezed today.
He clearly did it for the sole purpose of shitting on WWE since Vince hates sneezing. |
Herb Abrams invented Meltzer bad, for the record. Went so far as to name a jobber after him.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How had I never heard of the time that some dude in a wig (who looks like Dana Carvey) convinced whoever was running the May 19, 1986 WWF MSG card that he was Sammy Hagar and should be allowed in the ring to address the crowd? <a href="https://t.co/eYfShQEyPg">pic.twitter.com/eYfShQEyPg</a></p>— David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/980642949448028160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
What |
I’ve wondered about the story behind that for years.
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