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Sixx 12-15-2015 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4744530)
Do you need to read any tie ins for secret wars?

Better not. It gets way more confusing when you read the tie-ins, which I have.

Sixx 12-15-2015 08:18 PM

the tie-ins got some sorta medieval universe, too. there's also a XIX century Hank Pym and some mini worlds where everyone's a Wolverine, everyone's a Hulk and shit like that, it just makes your brain hurt

Sixx 12-15-2015 08:21 PM

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=128021

Marvel is reportedly seeking Kurt Russell to play Star-Lord's father in James Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.

Fignuts 12-15-2015 10:46 PM

Nice

Wishbone 12-15-2015 11:22 PM

I can get behind that casting

Blonde Moment 12-16-2015 12:24 PM

Well they just killed Namor ir was glorious. i will admit I am going to miss him but I think this will not be the last we see of him.

Sixx 12-16-2015 12:53 PM

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=128034

Tom Holland on the set of Doctor Strange. Wonder if he's gonna be in it, at least for a cameo.

Fignuts 12-16-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4744782)
Well they just killed Namor ir was glorious. i will admit I am going to miss him but I think this will not be the last we see of him.

Marvel's balls shriveled up inside themselves well over a decade ago. He'll be back before 2017.

Fignuts 12-16-2015 01:53 PM

Guess I'll read secret wars qnd give this new marvel stuff a shot. Couldn't be worse than new 52, right?

Fignuts 12-16-2015 01:53 PM

Right?

Fignuts 12-16-2015 01:54 PM

Haven't read any ultimate universe stuff since reed richards turned evil.

Fignuts 12-16-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4741747)
It really pisses me off what Marvel has done with Xavier, the Summers boys and the Greys. Started with the dismantling of the Lilandra/Xavier relationship and ended with the radicalization of Cyclops and Havok. Cyclops died a insane villain and should have gone out a hero .......

I haven't read cyclops' death yet, but making him a villain was the most interesting he's been since well, forever. Or it could have been, if they would have handled it properly. That jail cell meeting between cyke and cap was cool, and hinted that cyclops would become a really great "grey area" type villain. If they would have gone full che guevarra mutant rebel leader with him, it could of worked great, but instead he was written the same as always, and all that potential was squandered. Going off what you said, it sounds like they took him way too far to the other extreme for his death, which is just as bad.

Whatever. He'll be back too. No balls.

Sixx 12-16-2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4744822)
Haven't read any ultimate universe stuff since reed richards turned evil.

after cataclysm the ultimate universe sucked major balls (not that it hasn't at times before that). new ultimates were a bunch of nobodies like cloak and dagger and peter parkers female clone, fantastic four became ff or something and was terrible, peter parker came back from the dead somehow (heroes staying dead was one of the best thing about ultimate marvel) and it was given zero explanation, it was like "dude, we saw you die, how are you alive?" and he's like "dunno, I just woke up"

my right shift is broken and the left one is a pain to use, fuck capitalizing

Rammsteinmad 12-16-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4744782)
Well they just killed Namor ir was glorious. i will admit I am going to miss him but I think this will not be the last we see of him.

Oh shit! A major character died!!! :roll:

SPOILER: show
They always come back.

Lock Jaw 12-16-2015 02:36 PM

They still never brought back Jean Grey, did they? (Just transported her young self into the present or something)

Sixx 12-16-2015 02:40 PM

are you kidding? she's been brought back more times than any other character

but right, recently the only jean grey around was the young jean grey brought from the past

Lock Jaw 12-16-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 4744840)
are you kidding? she's been brought back more times than any other character

Yeah, but I mean when they killed her the last time.... which was over a decade ago...

Fignuts 12-16-2015 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 4744840)
are you kidding? she's been brought back more times than any other character

but right, recently the only jean grey around was the young jean grey brought from the past

Has she though?

I've never gotten this joke. Maybe I'm missing a few of her resurrections, but I don't think she's come back that often.

So she died after the dark phoenix saga, and then came back later in x-factor. Then she died again in X-factor. The phoenix force tried to ressurect her in endsong, but she stayed dead.

That's it. Unless you wanna be that guy and count Here Comes Tomorrow, but even then, thats only two resurrections. There have been tons of characters who have died and come back a hell of a lot more than Jean Grey.

Lock Jaw 12-16-2015 07:27 PM

I wonder which comic book character has the record for most deaths/resurrections...... (Resurrection Man disqualified)

Sixx 12-16-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4744995)
Has she though?

I've never gotten this joke. Maybe I'm missing a few of her resurrections, but I don't think she's come back that often.

So she died after the dark phoenix saga, and then came back later in x-factor. Then she died again in X-factor. The phoenix force tried to ressurect her in endsong, but she stayed dead.

That's it. Unless you wanna be that guy and count Here Comes Tomorrow, but even then, thats only two resurrections. There have been tons of characters who have died and come back a hell of a lot more than Jean Grey.

Hmm, I actually haven't read the old issues where she died, but I remember seeing a list. Can't find it now, only one I found includes deahts like dying but having her mind transferred to Emma Frost. The one I remember didn't have this. And if I remember right, it said she really, really died 10+ times.

Fignuts 12-16-2015 08:13 PM

I'm looking at wikipedia and the ones I listed are the only ones I see. I don't count stuff like the mind transfer because she didn't actually die, and shit like that happens all the time in comics. If you count that stuff, you could easily pick a random character and make a long "death" list.

Sixx 12-16-2015 08:16 PM

I don't count the mind transfer either, that's why I don't like this list.

Anyway, fetching a Jean Grey from the past is basically bringing her back in a way, same with the current Wolverine, only he's old as fuck now while Jean is younger.

Reavant 12-16-2015 11:26 PM

Wasnt one of her resurrections actually madelyn pryor?

Fignuts 12-16-2015 11:27 PM

No Madelyn was a different character that just looked like Jean.

Reavant 12-16-2015 11:29 PM

Wasnt it her clone?

Fignuts 12-16-2015 11:59 PM

Yeah, but it wasn't supposed to be when they created her. They needed a way to fix how much of an asshole they had written cyclops to be (i.e. abandoning madelyn and their son to hang out with recently returned jean) so they retconned her into a mr sinister clone.

She was originally meant to be a way to write cyclops out of the book. He was going to retire from the x-men and live happily ever after with madelyne.

Fignuts 12-17-2015 12:05 AM

Actually read through xfactor a while back, and for like 25 issues he doesn't contact madelyne at all. Whole time I'm just yelling in my head "CALL YOUR FUCKING WIFE YOU DICKHEAD". He didn't even have a reason beyond typical emo cyclops angst bullshit nonsense.

Was infuriating.

Rammsteinmad 12-17-2015 10:25 AM

Bringing people back from the past totally counts as bringing a character back. It's just another shitty loophole.

Wishbone 12-17-2015 06:11 PM

So I just got caught up on Amazing Spider-Man and Invincible Iron Man. Gotta say they're both really good thus far. Also digging New Avengers and Ms. Marvel. Read the first issue of Guardians of the Galaxy's new run and really enjoyed it too. Felt like the new additions to the team really fit well. Marvel's batting pretty good so far for me. Only thing I read this past week that I didn't like was The Uncanny Inhumans. Fuck that confusing nonsense.

Sixx 12-17-2015 07:34 PM

and there being like 5 different avengers teams ain't confusing?

i already forgot who's in new avengers, who's in uncanny, who's in the ultimates, etc.

iron man is good, spiderman going global is really weird and i don't like it

agreed on guardians, ben grimm and kitty pryde are pretty cool additions

Wishbone 12-18-2015 12:33 AM

Eh, it's a little confusing at times, yeah. But I'm only following two of them at the moment so the others are kinda "out of sight out of mind". New Avengers seemed like the most interesting to me so I'm focusing most of my effort on following them. Squirrel Girl, Hulkling, and Wiccan are all favorites of mine so it's nice to see them doing something interesting. I've read the first issue of the Avenger team with Captain American and Deadpool in it too. Was interesting, but I'm not sold yet. Might read another issue or two just to see if it's gonna get good before I make a decision about whether or not to follow it. Love Captain Marvel, but I'm really not interested in Ultimates.

Spider-Man going global does jar me a little, but his book still has that Spidey charm and humor I love so I'm able to look past that for the most part. Not sure I like the Spider-Mobile and Spider-Plane though... Also I somehow wasn't aware that Aunt May was married/worked for Parker industries now (despite having read most of Amazing Spider-Man straight through since Doc Octopus got kicked out of Pete's body) so that caught me way off guard.

Sixx 12-18-2015 04:07 AM

aunt may being married isn't a surprise to me (she's married to jonah's father btw) as it happenned way before secret wars, they started dating even before doc ock's mind was transferred into parker's body.

and i dunno about spidey charm, he seems to be a total dick now and yeah, fuck his car and his plane

Wishbone 12-19-2015 06:11 PM

So Jonah and Peter are step brothers now... Eeeew.

Fignuts 12-27-2015 11:09 PM

Read the first 3 issues of Secret Wars, and Sixx is right. I fucking hate it. It's just a hodge podge of too much shit going on with too many characters. Like Crisis on Infinite Earths times ten. Doesn't help that this story has been building in other titles for over a year.

On a brighter note, I read Frank Miller's Daredevil for the first time, and hot shit it deserves all the praise it gets. So damn good. Check it out, if you have marvel unlimited.

Lock Jaw 12-28-2015 08:52 AM

Got the Frank Miller Daredevil Omnibus out of the library a bit ago and read it for the first time. There was indeed some great stuff within it.

Sixx 12-28-2015 09:32 AM

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/file...first-look.jpg


BITCHIN

The Destroyer 12-28-2015 09:41 AM

Liking the look.

JimmyMess 12-28-2015 01:26 PM

beauty

Kalyx triaD 12-29-2015 12:59 AM

http://cdn2-www.superherohype.com/as...-in-ew-008.jpg
http://cdn1-www.superherohype.com/as...nge-005-ew.jpg

Wishbone 12-29-2015 02:01 AM

Damn, that looks amazing.


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