They’re carnies. They used that word as their “C word” to try and hurt people a few years ago, but it was a confession as to who they actually are.

I wanted to give this promotion a chance, but it's been five years and Pac still hasn't been a world champion.

Is he even still there?

I think he has a deal where he’s based in the UK so he’s not always there.

Feels like he’s almost never there. Did he even work Wembley?

I tried to find the sexual misconduct thread to put this in there, but it was too much effort. Jericho’s been compared to Harvey Weinstein by Nick Hausman. It’s being alleged that the reason Kylie Rae left the company was because Jericho and/or other parties lured Rae to a room under the pretense there would be other people there. It was just Jericho and Rae. Jericho “made a pass” (whatever that means) and Rae freaked out.

Kylie Rae, for whatever it’s worth, has liked tweets by Hausman and others around the subject showing support. She also responded with a heart emoji to that person who asked for whether it was safe to talk about what Chris Jericho’s done to people (I’m sure some remember that tweet). That one was a while ago.

Brian Last made a tweet asking if Jericho has said he needs time off to deal with diverticulitis yet.

MJF losing clean to Samoa Joe wasn’t surprising if MJF is going to the WWE (which would be my guess). The dirt sheets are saying he’s re-signed, but I don’t believe they’d know. If he is staying in AEW, what a bad finish.

Yeah saw this being a big focus today. Tony Khan getting roasted on Twitter for responding to sexual misconduct press scrum wearing Toni Storm's hat and sunglasses.

This company. Saw a neat meme on Twitter which said "when you fire the wrong cancer" and then photo ot CM Punk yelling and vince with "APOLOGISE"!

Brian Last might just be my new favourite person. Posted the AEW handbook and calling out Jericho's 4am tweets being the reason he is now being accused of sexual harassment. Cannot wait for he and Jim to break this one down :lol:

Also. Tony Khan saying AEW is the safest wrestling company. 5 months ago he was fearing for his life. He needs to stop these press scrums. He is not Dana White.

I’m looking forward to Cornette & Last taking on the main event and what it means/how stupid the devil stuff was. AEW is a drama mine that just keeps on giving.

The media scrums are a joke. No one there is serious. It’s a circle-jerk.

I agree with the Black Scorpion comparisons that I've seen online. I'm now wondering if Adam Cole was the original person intended to be the Devil. Didn't follow the best friend thing Cole and MJF did so unsure if Cole being the Devil lined up or if it's full of plot holes.

The Black Scorpion comparisons are very apt. It’s also got the stench of the Vince McMahon Higher Power reveal. Vince tortured his own family to achieve…what? Adam Cole doing this to MJF when he already had MJF’s trust makes no sense.

And the Cult is going after Kylie, who made no statement confirming anything.

You know, like normal people.

She’s liked some tweets. But you know, maybe don’t attack someone who was made to feel uncomfortable by powerful people in the industry? Tony’s handling of the subject at the media scrum didn’t inspire confidence. But that could be Tony being a moron. Still, AEW fans going after Kylie — not because they think Jericho’s innocent, but because his conduct has hurt the company — is pretty gross.

MJF has been removed from the AEW roster page. I haven’t scoured the internet, but by and large the people I’ve seen seem to think it’s a work. I don’t have that much faith in AEW to have their former World Champion under contract. I can seriously see him showing up on WWE television very soon.

Forums down more than its up now :/

I didn't catch Worlds end, had to work but I was happy enough with the Adam Cole reveal for the most part except the attempt to bait and switch with him at ringside for the match. Unless I lost something in translation reading the results and not watching it that really seemed extra for no reason. Cole appearing and unmasking would have felt less convoluted.

Everything points to MJF taking a break to build up the will he wont he sign dealio setting up for the big return. Perhaps we will get Cole doing a "I ran him out of AEW" bit before a big MJF return once Cole is fully healed. If not this could go cold real quick.

I have always believed MJF signed on for longer when the whole no show stuff went down, I have seen nothing to change my mind.

I dont love Joe as champ... hoping thats a transitional thing.

To paraphrase Jim Cornette: "I'm saying fuckin' sodomize me with a goddamn rusty fishing knife on national television; just one year of that and you assholes would NEVER see my fat ass ever again!"

The big boot on his foot would have been a massive giveaway if they did it that way. Seemed like they were working around what they had to to make it make as much sense as possible.

All things considered, it could have been a lot worse. I personally don't love that it was Adam Cole, but it serves the purpose of solidifying him as a heel, a bigger asshole than the now babyface* MJF, and the furthering of a possible spark of this going somewhere with the "associates" reveals that AEW will prob'ly extinguish in short order.

At least it wasn't Jungle Boy or Orange Cassidy or some shit.

Anything short of Chris coming after her with his schlong out on leaked surveilance would have yielded the same result, unfortunately.

What makes it "funnier" is the same screeching shitheads seeing fit to pile on her are the same ones using that collection of CM Punk photos to prove how he's "unsafe" around women because *they* don't like him.

They picked the losing team and they’re going to stick with that team, dammit.

I honestly didn't think of the boot, its a good point and probably explains a bit of the clunkiness tbh.

I am happy with it being Cole, everyone now wants to claim it was the obvious outcome but go back in time a week and the internet was full of theories. In so far as an intrigue angle it did its job despite every man and his dog now claiming it was obvious.

What they do with it will be interesting if MJF really is out for a while and AC is still out a while. Hard to keep an angle hot when ones gone and the other is injured.

No one gives a shit. MJF is dead in the water if he is still with AEW.

It is hilarious he spent 2 years doing the whole "bidding war of 2024" and no one's talking about him, only Sasha

Difficult to do this story whilst being a white meat babyface/company man.

True. TK really fucked up his whole aura and character.

So now they have Edge fueding with Griff Garrison and Cole Karter? Gotta love that creative freedom!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

So Darby and Stinger are like 26-0 they said tonight. wowza..def Sting's last match will be against Darby and I hope he doesn't kill him.

Stinger really needs to come out more without the long shirt and embrace his muscular old man body.

Dude needs to retire as Surfer Sting. Long trunks, wrestling boots, and no shirt

I'm gonna call it. HHH is going to lend out Undertaker for a cameo for Sting's retirement

Not to wrestle. He'll just slowly make his way to the ring.

I think AJ will eventually make his way to AEW... Not sure what year he is on his contract.

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AEW has crossed into new levels of bad. You can’t objectively argue that the booking even makes sense anymore. It’s gone beyond an issue of taste. That is going to do a lot of damage to their already dwindling ratings.

Only way he goes to AEW is if WWE releases him or doesn't renew his contract.

Who can be excited about this Undisputed Kingdom stable? People are also going to see the long-term direction being alluded to and reject it because it isn’t very good. Babyface Luchasaurus and Cole/Wardlow are not going to get anyone’s senses going. It’s also basically the same story lol. But Tony sticks to his bad ideas, so people are probably groaning at the commitment to this bad direction.

Just listened to Cornette's break down of the Devil reveal. Great stuff! I haven't been keeping up with AEW since Punk got fired but if what these two are saying is accurate - hilarious :lol:

Overall, it was obvious. Even from the start, it seemed like this was the direction of pairing up Cole and MJF to begin with, just so AC could "outsmart" him, and be what was supposed to be a double turn of sorts... since MJF was a heel that everyone liked and Adam Cole was a babyface running on expiring sympathy.

However, I don't think either of them or Tony imagined that them being a babyface tandem would get over as hot as it did, so they kept running with it. On top of that, the injuries started piling up on both guys, fucking up a storyline that was likely supposed to wrap up months ago given how fast TK likes to burn through angles.

However, what happens in recent history about anything "obvious"? Everyone is usually inclined to do the Vince Russo thing and "swerve, bro" because the if anyone can see it coming, then it must not be good. Every ending has to have some M Knight Shamalyan twist just to fool the dirt sheets and smart fans, right?!

Again, they could've tried to drop in Danhausen or Kip Sabian or Hook for zero reason other than "HA, WE FOOLED YOU!" and it is at least good they didn't try that.

It is interesting that Tony hasn’t seemed to be able to secure any of the talent that WWE released recently. I wonder if this is talent’s prerogative or if this is some 3D chess in terms to WWE whispering some suggestions about whether to work or not work if they want to come back.

I still don’t understand why the devil? Why…do that? It doesn’t help Adam Cole. I also don’t see why Samoa Joe worked with them after promising to help MJF. How does this make sense?

I think your pretty much spot on here. In a world built on the swerve (wrestling in general) predictable is often the best outcome and I think this is one of those cases. For anyone watching it was all there and the real element of doubt was swerve for swerves sake.

Your call out about the tag team bit of it running long is a good one.

I think they should probably move on from this Undisputed Kingdom stuff pretty quickly. I was thinking today they could have Strong fail to win the International Title. War flow can be sent in to do it. He succeeds where Strong fails. Jealousy. When Adam Cole is healed, he demands the belt. Wardlow says no way and starts whooping both Cole & Strong. You can do a triple threat between them at some point. Taven & Bennett can go off as a team. I’d consider tying Evil Adam Cole to the Don Callis Family stuff. Puts him with a more visually interesting group.

Kyle O’Reilly can return and be offered a spot with Cole and he can turn it down, be a face.

I think that puts them in more appropriate spots and can move the story in a less bland direction.

If you missed Collision this week, it is just like how the Jaguars missed the playoffs :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Surprised there isn't anything about Tony trying to make a point about WWE shoehorning Jinder Mahal that, of course, backfired spectacularly because it shines a big light on his own shitty booking.

The only positive that could come from this is that it sets up an instant first feud for [insert whatever name WWE gives HOOK from their name generator] vs Jinder when Taz's kid jumps ship.

I enjoyed the back and forth between Bischoff and Khan on Twitter :lol:

Yep, serious foot in mouth moment from him again. MJF was like 1-5 in 2022 before not rassling for 4 months, coming back and winning the battle royale, and then the title.

I love that Jinder retweeted and said something like "Who tf is Hook?"

I see heaps of stuff on Wardlow dropping off but what about Hook? He was quite over a few years ago... don't hear much about him now.

He's the same as always. Appears every once in awhile and squashes someone else who is never used. Hangs out with comedy jobbers. He may be 28-1, but it's hard for me to take him seriously at all. He's basically the boss of the low card/novelty acts. I have no idea why they've booked a guy so strongly while he's basically an afterthought 98% of the time. It's weird. And now that they finally seem to be pulling the trigger on him, it's well over a year too late and almost all of his hype is gone. That ship sailed long ago. Hopefully he does better in NXT when they get their hands on him.

Hope NXT gets Taz as a trainer too tbh. Want to see him create an entire class of suplex machines.

MmmmmMmMMmMm Bron expanding his arsenal with some new suplexes crafted by Taz.....

Bron has the look to be Suplex Machine 2.0


Do eeeeeeet

He also has the look to "choke someone out". Do that too.

Bron has the look to be Suplex Machine 2.0


Do eeeeeeet

He also has the look to "choke someone out". Do that too.

I’m pretty sure I didn’t “get it” when I saw Hook. He seemed green a shit from memory. But maybe I’m crossing him up with someone? I don’t even know how well he would do in NXT. He just doesn’t seem very interesting tbh.

TK fucked up. Again. Another shitty look for AEW while they are chasing a TV deal with ANYONE. Keeping in mind they’ve got giant expenditures. He’s only got himself and his product to blame if it ends up impossible for him to ever recoup money on this and daddy takes it all away.

I went into the specifics in another thread, but something I didn’t mention that others picked up on is that TK randomly books people into title matches all the time. Abadon getting a TBS Title shot was one I noticed. I don’t remember the last time I read anything about The Kingdom getting a win on Dynamite.

You gotta love the shitshow.

Hooks an interesting one, he was real hot there for a while and he really wasnt doing a lot just squashes and kind of built as a bad ass despite his size. His promo work is clunky, his ring works pretty clean and keeps improving but hes so small while working a bigger mans style I'm not sure how far it can take him. I will say he seems strong AF, some of his suplexes are impressive!

I'm curious how they handle him vs. Joe, I see no way Hook beats him. Given Joes a new champ anything but Joe over pretty strong seems silly. Maybe we get the old Joe hits him with all hes got, totally in control but Hook wont die and gains respect type deal.

Lol, I heard Cornette describe The Bucks’ return so I had to see it for myself. Afterwards, for fun, I actually read the YouTube comments. Almost ALL of them are negative. You’re not going to get The Bucks by on the graces of fans shoehorning them into this position.

The comment section of youtube is the dregs of all society. Look up a random YT video and go to comments. Anything about anything is negative.

Not true.

What app has the worst comment section? I'd say Instagram.

Sting’s last match being against the Young Bucks is a total dud.

Even if you look past The Young Bucks being shit, there’s not really any meaty “story” reason for it happening. Have they even been linked on-air before? At least FTR are from the Carolinas, if you went with them.

And still ignoring that The Bucks are shit — even if you want to pretend they are good — what they are good at is an entirely different thing to what Sting needs.

Then there is the fact that they are actual total shit.

Everywhere stinks. Wrestling fans are brutal. Complete lunatics. Fuck look at some of the psychos here. I mean it isn’t politics but it’s in the ballpark.

Wrestling Twitter is brutal. The creeps come out on Instagram. And the racists are all over YouTube comments.

Tough call for worst comment section.

Wife looks at girly shit on instagram and the comment section is vile.

It’s convenient for some to use the idea of negativity on the internet as a straw-man to dismiss platforms.

A lot of noise on Twitter about the kick out at one by Hook. The response reminded me or when Omega kicked out at one with Osprey.

I still don't get the appeal but the fans seem to go crazy. Years ago DDP commented that his match with Goldberg would have been much better had Goldberg kicked at out after 2 following the Diamond Cutter. I agree.

The long two counts followed by a last second kick out adds to the drama. I imagine Cactus Jack kicking out of the Pedigree at 1 at the Royal Rumble having nowhere near the same level of impact.

News section reckons it was Stings call, if thats who he wants more power to him I guess. They will bump there asses off for him I'm sure, there interactions with Darby will be wild, but its an odd fit.

In a perfect world (for me) Sting would have made a run at a heel MJF for the World title but fall short. This leads to Darby beating MJF and then offering Sting a shot at the title, Sting falls short and retires. But it sounds like Stings not up to a singles run and I guess that scenario or sone like it robs him of his farewell tour.

The man can do as he pleases in my book so if he wants the Bucks I hope he goes out on a good show. He does seem to like jumping off high shit in this run so that might fit well with the Bucks and Darby.

The kick at one sounds fucking stupid and like a shark jumping moment for the match. Kicking out of the powerslam? Cool. That’s his kick out spot. He can counter the Muscle Buster once. Next time Joe hits it, slaps in the choke, that’s it.

Kicking out of moves isn’t hard. It’s kind of cheap.

Who cares if Sting did choose The Bucks? It’d be great if legends made good choices. Sting didn’t.

No one is straw manning at all.

The comment was that all of Youtube comments are terrible, because they are.

Others added that it gets worse on other platforms, and they're also correct. :wave:

No one is dismissing platforms, Noid just can't comprehend simple words.

That’s not true at all lol.

I happened to have a TNA video open. Frankie Kazarian turns on Eric Young. Almost all the comments at the top are either positive or simple observations.

Dave Meltzer apparently had a minor meltdown whining about The House of Black and how they “never do jobs” like they’re the ones booking the company. He’s mad that they want to go back to WWE even though WWE treated them “like shit.”

It's difficult to take anything Dave Meltzer says seriously. I hardly pay attention to him (or many of the dirt sheet writers) anymore.

He compromised his own credibility.

Absolutely.

Also know that HoB went to Collision to get away from the clown show.

It’s weird, because HOB do jobs. I remember Buddy Matthews losing two big singles matches at the onset of Collision. They’re also not trios champs anymore. So it’s just not reflective of the reality.

But also lol at how the show is booked around this alleged stuff and NONE of it is put on Tony Khan.

It’s also annoying when this came up for a guy like Miro, who reportedly refused to lose to someone. The more pressing point is that Miro shouldn’t have been losing.

As AEW’s attendance drops to absolutely abysmal lows, Tony Khan has discovered a remedy to address this: He has a huge announcement planned for a Dynamite. Either this week or next week. Who cares?

Still don't like the rankings. Can't remember exactly how the old format was, but having the four singles champions and then the contenders ranked 1-5 is confusing. Is number one the number one contender to all the singles belts? Or are they #5 overall? Does that mean Christian is the number one contender to the AEW title?

They are a bad idea, they always were a bad idea, they always will be a bad idea.

Think HoB’s contracts don’t expire for a few years. By which point the will they-won’t they break up with Judgment Day might have been concluded and The Final Testament will have proved as further evidence that you just can’t get Kross over. Open spot for a Spooky Bollocks group.

Will Tony Khan subtweet about The Rock/Roman/Cody situation?

I’d be happy for them to have individual runs.

I sure as shit hope so.

🤞

Lol, I cannot wait for the drama once Sasha Banks gets to AEW. It’s pretty funny they’re calling the show “Big Business.” Way to draw attention to you being small time.

On a scale of 1-10 how awkward do you think Tony Khan's hug with Sasha will be?

Might be slightly less awkward than this :rofl:

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You love this joke eh? Haha

People who aren't on the temp forum didn't see it.... so had to do it again

I mean this thread is basically people repeating the same few jokes for over 5 years so it makes sense.

The product has continuously sucked in the same way for 5 years. When the content gets fresh, the material making fun of it will.

It will be somewhere between Claudio and Okada.

Nah, Sasha is going to lean into it. But she won’t be able to hide her disgust. It’ll be like palms on the back, eyes closed, grimace, as little body contact as possible.

Every week is the best shows AEW has ever done.
Every month AEW is on the best run they have ever had.
Every tweet Tiny makes is more and more desperate.

While WWE had the wrestling world going crazy, Tiny is tweeting this...
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Everything is the best AEW, if you ignore the show content, the attendance, and the ratings.

AEW is about to cross over into what they do doesn’t even qualify as news territory.

He could have just DM’d the few people who still watch AEW. No reason to make a public statement.

They were also among the worst shows they’ve ever done. Of all the shows they’ve done, they were among them. Everything is great — blah, blah, blah. How about striving to be better than shit?

It’s really great someone is excited for what AEW is doing, even if it’s just the guy who owns it.

Can’t wait for The Young Bucks to suck the air out of the room for Sting’s last match and Sasha Banks to come out and talk about how she’s the new CEO of AEW and will be Women’s Champion soon!

Lol, Swerve Strickland on AEW: “We are the best in the ring. Just because we’re not stopping a show to speak for 30 minutes and do all these melodramatic things doesn’t mean it’s not storytelling. We’re just giving you an alternative to the storytelling. Like the Continental Classic.”

Didn’t he just illegally break into his rival’s house to try and cut a promo on his baby? I’d maybe not take shots at others being melodramatic.