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Is the show actually specifically designed to appeal to younger viewers though? That’s Dave’s take with them using younger talent. I’m sure they would like to magically gain younger viewers and generally increase viewership, but where is this “they’re after that specific demo” thing coming from?

How did viewership do? I know it hasn’t been great, but has it been significantly down from NXT 1.0? If that is holding, or just decreasing slightly, for all we know they consider the show a success?

I haven’t followed NXT 2.0. There was some stuff on the first show I liked (The Creed Brothers, Rex Steiner, Ben Buchanan). But I think there is a better pro-wrestling show featuring developmental talent that could appeal to a wider audience. I’m thinking more along the lines of pre-Network NXT. Some developmental acts with familiar names mixed in. But I’m just saying the “haha, look at that demo that they were after” narrative is possibly a little skewed.

Meltzer Logic: Bright Colors = KIDS!!!

Seriously, NXT 2.0 is a deliberate step away from having a bunch of guys who's entire identity is "Guy who Wrestles Good" to having a bunch of wrestlers with different and various identities.

XL	11-28-2021 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5497402)

I actually think acts like Toxic Attraction are designed to appeal to older audiences. They’re basically The Beautiful People, right?

Hmmmm. I’d say TA was a play for that teenage boy market. They’re 2.0s version of Sable/Torrie/Stacy.

Bad News Gertner

11-28-2021 10:14 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the boys are firing off warning shots <a href="https://t.co/xjvAMN4x5V">pic.twitter.com/xjvAMN4x5V</a></p>— �� █♂️ �� (@jockonimus) <a href="https://twitter.com/jockonimus/status/1464670767472390156?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan

11-28-2021 10:46 AM

Tajiri and Mutoh are teaming now? That's awesome.

Mr. Nerfect

11-28-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5497429)

Triple H got his chance to run a boutique product for the Network to get some experience. There’s a difference between that serving a purpose and developmental though. And filling 2 hours on prime time cable. It’s incredible how NXT changing to become more synchronized with the main roster has been spun into Triple H losing power or something. The product has a different function.

Now, whether or not it is achieving what they want it to remains to be seen. Ridge Holland and Von Wagner seem like the first tests of that.

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5497452)

Hmmmm. I’d say TA was a play for that teenage boy market. They’re 2.0s version of Sable/Torrie/Stacy.

Maybe. I think once free internet porn came along, that sort of stuff has more of an appeal to old creepers more than anything.

XL	11-28-2021 03:27 PM

Well the ratings suggest that’s the case.

Mr. Nerfect

11-28-2021 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5497515)

Well the ratings suggest that’s the case.

And I’m not sure they’re entirely upset about that.

Is NXT still shown on the Network (I guess via Peacock now?). I think it’s always been the case that a slice of the younger audience watches via that. If they already had it for NXT pre-USA, PPVs and the library, it may just be easier access for some of them that further justifies staying subscribed. Or they just don’t have cable.

When Meltzer and the like talk about the average age of that NXT audience, they’re talking about the age of the audience that watches on USA. And sure, that might have skewered up since the changeover. But it’s still this slightly disingenuous extrapolation from the data.

Bad News Gertner

11-28-2021 08:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This push-off dropkick is almost as weird as the entire run karate expert Glacier worked in a wrestling singlet. <a href="https://t.co/eVux17oNM6">pic.twitter.com/eVux17oNM6</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1465004327496474630?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Supreme Olajuwon

11-28-2021 09:24 PM

I CAN SHARE OLD GIFS TOO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Remember the time Chris Champion did a shoot Crane Kick on Rick Steiner, then got a receipt in the form of a shoot Steiner Line. <a href="https://t.co/v32s5HZoYu">pic.twitter.com/v32s5HZoYu</a></p>— Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1464898586794147853?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tom Guycott

11-29-2021 12:30 AM

I was out of town with family, so I didn't get the opportunity to wish the folks here at TPWW a Happy Thanksgiving. I hope all of your bellies and hearts were full.

Jordan

11-29-2021 10:18 AM

I was just looking up all of the free agents on wrestling right now and it's kind of an insane list of talent that are available. I really hope that Jarrett and Conrad go into buisness on a promotion together. If they had a solid financial plan to run a company that could offer good contracts for a roster that would be a great thing for wrestling. There are too few contracts for the amount of talent that are unsigned right now.

drave

11-29-2021 10:22 AM

No one should open a promotion with Jarrett.

Remember GFW Gold or some shit? C'mon. Remember GFW in general?

Lock Jaw

11-29-2021 10:23 AM

Noid should open a promotion with Jarrett.

Jordan

11-29-2021 10:26 AM

Jeff Jarrett also brought NJPW to the US.

Lock Jaw

11-29-2021 10:28 AM

New Jarrett Pro Wrestling

Evil Vito

11-29-2021 10:28 AM

Japan has closed its borders again amid the newest COVID variant

Might quash any NJPW interaction with the US promotions for another few months

Evil Vito

11-29-2021 10:38 AM

Danielson said in an interview that he hates being on his phone and has, legitimately, almost 3,000 unread texts. He does not check his phone.

And here I hate seeing just 1 notification.

Bad News Gertner

11-29-2021 10:41 AM

Impact is still going after all these years. Longer than WCW and ECW combined I believe or close to it.

Mr. Nerfect

11-29-2021 01:07 PM

I’ve been very critical of TNA, but if Impact Wrestling outlasts AEW, part of me is going to mark out. I just want someone else to make a real play. Break open the bank, go after The Briscoes, Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Erick Rowan and Ryback. Bring in Johnny Curtis.

Jeff Jarrett deserves respect, but he’s not beyond reproach. Not sure if Jeff Jarrett and Conrad Thompson selling gold mortgages is for me, but we’ll see. Jeff does know wrestling. It just depends on what sort of starting capital they have and whether or not they can secure a good slot somewhere.

screech

11-29-2021 01:17 PM

Watched the first two episodes of Ruthless Aggression season two. Really good series. First one was Hollywood Rock, second was "innovations" - Elimination Chamber, Money in the Bank, RAW Roulette, Punjabi Prison - may be forgetting one.

Enjoying the new season so far.

Mr. Nerfect

11-29-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 5497706)

One of those things is not like the others.

Fignuts

11-29-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5497659)

No one should open a promotion with Jarrett.

Remember GFW Gold or some shit? C'mon. Remember GFW in general?

GFW's failure was mostly just bad luck. It had a lot of potential, but they ran into a lot of problems getting it off the ground. The GFW Gold thing was done out of desperation, as at that point they were pretty hard up for cash. No billionaire money mark to make it all easy.

Jordan

11-29-2021 01:42 PM

I didn't make all of my money back on Global Force Gold but I made up for it on crypto and my only fans.

drave

11-29-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5497709)

It was never going to work.

Mr. Nerfect

11-29-2021 04:03 PM

The only thing holding it back was capital. That’s the one thing AEW has had behind it that has allowed of it to take even the small hold it has. It bought its way to some big stars and a TNT deal.

If Jeff Jarrett had $100 million to invest and could have purchased some top stars, we’d be singing a different story. Hell, TNA became GFW for a while.

Fignuts

11-29-2021 04:18 PM

Regardless, I still think Jarrett has good business sense. He was one of the first people to recognize the potential of the Australian market, and as Jordan stated, helped popularize njpw stateside. And that's before you get into tna, which, for all its loltna moments is still one of the most successful and long lasting promotions of the modern era.

Mr. Nerfect

11-29-2021 04:21 PM

The thing that impresses me about TNA is that it had to build at least a little bit. There were growing pains and obstacles to overcome. AEW, even if you love it, is in a completely bought position.

Bad News Gertner

11-29-2021 05:04 PM

This June will be 20 YEARS for Impact. That's crazy.

Mr. Nerfect

11-29-2021 05:11 PM

Yeah, it’s insane when you start comparing it to other stretches of time. Take Shawn Michaels debuting in the WWF. 20 years from that takes you up to him superkicking Ric Flair in the face.

Mr. Nerfect

11-29-2021 05:13 PM

Children born in 2002 are almost old enough to drink with you at a bar in the US. They have been old enough to do so in Australia for a couple of years. If they happen to be wrestling fans, they don’t remember a day in their life without some incarnation of TNA Wrestling.

tavaresmatthews

11-29-2021 07:33 PM

Throwback to when Damien Priest celebrated winning the NXT North American Championship.

https://imgur.com/dZn6kfh.jpg

Supreme Olajuwon

11-29-2021 07:38 PM

Korbel is some cheap ass champagne

slik	11-29-2021 08:13 PM

Shane McMahon rumored to return on RAW tonight to boost ratings

slik	11-29-2021 08:21 PM

n/m it's prob a hint for something with austin theory

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/QTFgfkQdxl">pic.twitter.com/QTFgfkQdxl</a></p>— WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1465478604658286597?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner

11-29-2021 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5497787)

Shane McMahon rumored to return on RAW tonight to boost ratings

So they can quadruple Dynamite's ratings instead of triple?