I think I’ll officially lose interest in him if he stays with AEW. Okay, so you want to put a ceiling on yourself, dude? Cool.

The Young Bucks are having a tantrum, knowing they’ll get paid to sit at home.

I think MJF played it perfect, he pretended he was gonna leave, Tiny didn't want to lose his friend, so he got his daddy to give Max more money. MJF basically got a monster raise by saying he was getting sleepy and was going to go home.

If he got more money. He could have worked Tony by making him feel in control/part of the work by bringing him back without raising his pay. Make Tony think he’s in control of the situation.

It’s going to suck so bad if MJF stays with AEW. So fucking boring lol.

Hausman is reporting that people within the WWE are under the impression he’s signed a new deal. That’s disheartening. But why would anyone on the inside spoil it? Wouldn’t other promotions (like, literally all of them) be aware that MJF can’t talk to them because he’s under contract? Why would they protect this angle?

I’m so hoping he’s strung Tony along right to the end then just fucking jumps. He just loses to Joe at Worlds End, gets up, soaks in the cheers then shows up on Raw lol.

AEW got caught using bots to boost engagement. Which wouldn’t be a big deal in and of itself, but it’s just funny Tony cried and accused WWE of doing it.

Anyone with a huge amount of followers on any social media are subjected to bots. Some of them know it, others are ignorant to it. You can buy followers for pennies on the dollar. Other accounts are just bots that will auto-follow any account.

This is unavoidable for anyone, ever.

Also, this is not defending whatever about AEW - just stating a social media fact.

Lol, I just read that AEW is creating a new Continental Champion…then unifying it on the same night it is created. Holy. Fuck.

Shouldn’t the winner of the Continental Classic just get a title shot? Bryan Danielson wins, gets a trophy. MJF, if he’s still around, now has to defend the belt against the guy he cracked in the skull with an oxygen tank or whatever.

Danielson defeats MJF as a little bit of poetry. That way you can always say the tournament worked for getting a guy to the World Title. Danielson spends the year defending the World Title and then talks about relinquishing it when his deal is up, ala Max. They do another match in Arthur Ashe where MJF wins the belt back. Danielson enters the Continental Classic and is maybe the runner-up.

If you want to send a champion over to New Japan, isn’t that what the International Championship is for?

Oh, they want Danielson? Right, send him over as World Champion or just have him win the International Title. He’s an idea, he beats Mox in the tournament final for the Continental Cup and the AEW International Title. Danielson goes over and drops the International Title to Okada.

When Danielson beats MJF for the World Title, Okada is now a guy who can challenge MJF at Forbidden Door, because he beat Danielson and it can all be part of MJF’s journey. Okada can beat MJF to retain the International Title.

You can bring that back for WrestleDream. MJF defends the World Title against International Champion, Okada. MJF can win that one. That’s half the year’s booking done right there. This doesn’t even factor in the TNT Title. You have Edge win that. He turns heel with Christian for the retirement match. Darby smacks Edge with the skateboard as he defends against the Face of the Revolution Ladder Match (Mustafa Ali?). Edge and Darby feud. Edge puts over Darby at Double or Nothing.

You can probably run Omega vs. Okada at Double or Nothing. Do MJF vs. Wardlow there, since you’ve got the history.

Mustafa Ali lasts a little while as TNT Champion. When MJF beats Danielson for the belt, you can tie Danielson into things because he wants to be AEW Grand Slam Champion. He’ll need to win the Tag Team Titles too, which he can either do with Edge or against Edge. At some point, Edge & Christian have to win the tag belts right? They should do that from FTR. So it’d make sense to have them win the belts at some point. You’ve got to play to Kenny & Jericho a little bit, so they get the belts until around Revolution. Or Don Callis’ boys can get them — maybe Hobbs & Guevara so Jericho can claim to make stars.

You bring in Will Ospreay maybe as Don Callis’ new guy. He can be the reason for the title change and start something with Jericho or go straight for the World Title.

"I don't care about the product or wrestling anymore"

I do care about the product. I just think it sucks.

I love wrestling — the history of it, the business of it, classic stuff. I’m just not into the current direction all too much.

First Continental Classic Winner, Bryan Danielson. He wins the AEW World Title at Revolution. Wrestles Will Ospreay in the main event at Wembley. They go to a draw. The crowd is itchy for more, but Danielson turns heel by walking out. Ospreay starts a 1-year campaign for the World Title to culminate at Wembley Stadium in 2025.

That campaign sees him become the 2nd Continental Classic Winner, knocking back former champ, previous winner and the man he didn’t beat at Wembley. Instead of using his title shot for a match against MJF at Revolution, he’s putting off his title shot until All In that year.

Year 3 is where the MJF/Adam Cole stuff finally comes to an end. MJF wins the block against Cole, goes on to lose to whoever wins the other side when Cole throws in the towel. 2026 kicks off with Adam Cole and MJF at each other’s throats and whoever wins the Continental Classic to go for the World Title — which they probably win, so now you can talk about all 3 winners cashing in successfully.

These posts seem to suggest otherwise.

Even accounts with a small number of followers (like mine) are subjected to bots. It's just part of the thing.

Wait, you’re supposed to do this thing where you say I don’t follow closely enough so I can’t have an opinion.

Lol, both you and total muppets. The response to both of you is “no shit.”

So if it's true that MJF has resigned through 2027, when they start pushing the "bidding war of 2024" again in a couple months WWE should just come out and say "We aren't bidding on him, he's under contract for 3 more years, this is nonsense" and ruin it just out of spite. Like when them and WCW used to try to spoil each other kinda.

That would pop me lol

WWE, TNA or someone should. It’s not even out of spite. It might just temper expectations of fans who are actually excited about a move.

That’s why I am thinking he has legit not signed with anywhere. You kind of need to do this as a shoot.

Also, how Tony would be able to keep his mouth shut about it. The dude flew Will Ospreay over to appear on PPV to tell people he will be signing in a couple of months.

I figured he had signed when he was one of the leaders of the brigade dog piling LuFisto.

He has been nothing but an AEW shill since. But MJF isn't the guy they should be scared of losing. That would be Starks. A guy who is slightly older, willing to learn, a decent promo and just needs direction. If Lexis King can be a bigger deal in such a short time, Starks would be huge.

I dunno. You may be right, and I should be expecting it so I don’t get disappointed lol, but something about the whole situation seems “off” to me. Like it’s all going to plan.

Continental Classic field:

Blue League
Andrade El Idolo
Brody King
Bryan Danielson
Claudio Castagnoli
Daniel Garcia
Eddie Kingston

Gold League
Jay Lethal
Jay White
Jon Moxley
Mark Briscoe
Rush
Swerve Strickland

Some of these matchups are mighty tasty

Brody King is surprising. I love the guy and guess it makes sense to work a big hoss in there but figured Buddy Matthews was the HOB member most tailor-made for it. Brody’s a great candidate to play a spoiler role in it.

Jay Lethal is a pretty whatever addition but he’ll have a reliably good match with everyone in his block and someone’s gotta finish last in the block.

20 minute time limits so I’d not be surprised if a match like Mox vs White ends up as a draw

That’s a bit stronger than I thought it’d be tbh. I was expecting 5-6 guys at like Wheeer Yuta, Matt Sydal and Action Andretti level.

But I could still do without Lethal, Briscoe and Garcia. Swerve vs Danielson seems like a reasonable bet to be the final with Swerve getting his win back over him.

Swerve should really be getting a push into the AEW title scene but I guess they’ll just add a new belt to give to him and pretend it’s prestigious. Meh.

I thought this as well. Zero interest in any of these guys. But I guess you do need people to lose these matches, right?

Continental Classic looks pretty weak. Leaves a lot of hanging questions about why some people would make it, others wouldn’t.

Rampage is going against Survivor Series now too. They’re gonna die. SmackDown went against Collision in a different time slot and Collision got 270k or something.

Corporate Continental CockSnogging Classic

I guess yeah. Would just have preferred replacing those three with say Omega, Miro and Malakai or something along those lines. But like you said, someone’s gotta take the L’s. I think I’m just glad there’s no Wheeler Yuta anyway.

It’s crazy how when AEW is hurting, they do way more of the same shit that got them into that hole.

The participants are so random for this Bound for Glory ripoff.

If Swerve doesn't win it all then I really have no idea what the point would even be.

Speaking of, his promo on dynamite tonight was so awkward lol

Lol he’s just so bad but constantly given mic time in backstage segments. He’d be better off just staying on Rampage or ROH exclusively to try and generate some sort of charisma. He currently has negative charisma.

Kinda feels like they want him to get reps but he just doesn’t seem to have it in him. Solid upper card ROH guy is his sweet spot I reckon.

He truly is Wheeler Useless

QT Marshall has “resigned” from AEW. He left what seems like a pretty classy statement, but that there’s a statement at all, and the nature of some of the details he included reveals some mad layers.

Tony's going in a different direction creatively no doubt! Doesn't help that Triple H killed Amy hype they got from Osprey and implied that AEW's development system is ass in one night.

lol the head of talent relations bailing. If these L's don't stop coming TK might end up overdosing on copium.

Tuesday seems like a good day to announce a huge announcement.

QT Marshall very subtly letting people know that he formatted the shows, with the implication being “good luck without me.” Wednesday could be a real mess. :lol:

I’m imagining a format put together by Tony Khan himself looks like the jottings of a madman.

I feel so sorry for the next wrestler Tony brings in as a huge announcement. I can kind of see Dolph Ziggler getting a kick out of it, because he’s 40-whatever and past it. But way to immediately start off on the back foot.

So WBD seems to be the front-runner for Raw. It makes sense from WBD’s perspective. What are you going to sell more ad rights for? A PG juggernaut or a show that promotes people literally drinking each other’s bodily fluids?

If it goes through, people are going to blame that treacherous David Zaslav or predatory WWE. WBD have been giving AEW chance after chance for 4 years now. They’ve had time to do more than appeal to a niche.

So while the forum was down, a Vice President quit AND WBD wants Raw? How hasn't Tiny Khan had another meltdown yet???

Next it’s going to be MJF and taking away the New Japan deal via signing Okada.

You could feel Dave seethe through the tweet. It’s not official yet. WWE are going to do what makes sense business-wise. Amazon might come in with a giant offer or something. But WBD want wrestling. It wouldn’t SHOCK me if Raw goes somewhere else and WWE still provides TBS with 2 hrs on Wednesday.

What is gonna last longer, AEW or TPWWForums???

I just know TNA is going to outlast them both.

TNA and Twinkies will be the only survivors of the nuclear apocalypse to come

Speaking of, Dixie Carter was at Raw this week lol

That’ll be Tony Khan in a couple of years.

QTs announcement seemed fine, business is going in another direction and hes not on board. All good, happens daily all around the world. From what I read hes working out his notice or not renewing contract. More power to him.

How did HHH kill the Osprey hype? I think I missed something there.

Also whats up with the forums? They always seem to be down lately.

You’re such a mark, Sting Fan lol. Sorry, but you just are. It’s nice you’re trying, I guess.

Glad you’re still enjoying the product.

I too have issues with forums! But I wasn't brave enough to say anything.

Websites fine for me but when I try and access the forums there down probably 50% of the time.

Y'all can use https://tpww.freeforums.net/ when this site is down

Thanks for the tip. :y:

So Dave just keeps getting more insane. Besides the hilarious argument he had with Bryan Alvarez about the overruns (check it out on Cornette’s YouTube — it’s great), he’s also taking up for The Bucks by trying to push this idea that Punk is pampered.

He also just CANNOT for the life of him understand how anyone can see CM Punk having issues with a Ryan Nemeth or a Jack Perry and get how there could be any connection to The Bucks.

It's because Dave gets paid by the Bucks to defend them at all costs. Because any SANE person would have stopped years ago, especially after the incident overseas.

Incident? Do elaborate!

Yeah, I’m struggling to recall that too. Is it because all the incidents blur together?

When they didn’t get into his HOF, Meltzer said the reason they have critics is because they’ve never worked in WWE lol.

Ooh, can’t let this slip through the cracks. Ric Flair went on Rampage and went into business for himself. Just doing the horny old man shtick. But apparently he wasn’t supposed to/had the get the hook.

I’m telling you, this guy is going to work Tony into letting him work Wembley.

Oh, and now Matt Hardy is whinging about AEW. MATT HARDY!

What a time to be alive!

Britt Baker too.

They’ve also fired Kevin Sullivan, their VP of Post Production (not the Taskmaster Kevin Sullivan).

Why don't these wrestlers go to Tony directly? I don't understand the complaining online. Unless it is to rally Twitter support so Tony features them more?

I'll guess Tony's becoming less available these days.

Kevin would be a better booker.

Too right!

The Booker of the Year doesn’t have time to be dealing with no-mark talent on the roster. Go speak to the Head of Talent Relations.

Oh.

Not directly AEW related, but a survey of 1300 NFL players has the Jaguars rated as one of the worst organizations to work for.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tony Khan so excited he didn't realize he dropped his phone 😂💀 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a><a href="https://t.co/M6de1OmSob">pic.twitter.com/M6de1OmSob</a></p>&mdash; Jack Cassidy  (@RealJackCassidy) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealJackCassidy/status/1612075395603390466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol there's no way that's true

Look at his weird facial expression in that video, that is not normal lol. Also never forget how scorned Tiny was when a pro bowler didn't want to put up with his shit.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/fULM...679238/1.0.jpg

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaguars DE Yannick Ngakoue and Jaguars co-owner/Senior VP of Football administration and technology Tony Khan exchange Tweets about his trade request. <a href="https://t.co/meNWjisYQ8">pic.twitter.com/meNWjisYQ8</a></p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1252291516762140675?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Talent going online to complain is one of the biggest red flags a company can have. It’s like they’re begging to be fired. Mid-card guys in WCW vibes.

:lol:

Lol, people tried defending Tony Khan for that.

Now Jericho is saying that everyone in AEW could use 6 months working for Vince McMahon. He doesn’t say it verbatim, but it’s basically so everyone knows what it’s like to have a real boss. :lol:

They got a low rating because there was a big rat infestation in their workout facility apparently, I don’t know if Tony Khan has anything to do with it.

also because they don't do anything for their players families like the other teams do.

I barely keep up with AEW anymore, too bad to watch for sure. Seems so terrible! Am I right, does AEW sucks?

I'm still enjoying a lot of it but as always it's not without flaws. Continental Classic (basically a mini G1) has been a lot of fun IMO.

AEW is awesome. Love it.

I still put it on my TV because I support rasslin but I hardly ever pay attention to it for more than a few minutes at a time.

What’s the actual quote?

Yes AEW does suck. All the metrics back it up too. All the icebergs people pointed out were real.

AEW talents getting fined for speaking out on social media. Daniel Bryan a stooge now. It's all happening in AEW land!

What a time.

AEW is doing Vince Russo level swerves now, where they think it is amazing but everybody sees it coming because it is not really a swerve, it is obvious.

Why is Bryan handing out these fines?

Because he's a stooge now.

but no really, it's all "claims" and "rumors".


If you actually stop to think about it, the truth is most likely closer to:

He's on some sorta committee that meets about shit like this, and has a voice in what disciplinary mesaures are taken. I highly doubt he is unilaterally making those decisions.


But.... rumors n stuff

You don’t need a committee for this stuff. It’s just a way for Tony to buck responsibility.

Pretty easy to predict every single result on Dynamite this week. This Devil storyline has to be up there as an all-time bad one.